Re: [Audyssey] games playable on consoles [was]Re: what will ittake for this community to learn?

2013-06-25 Thread Clement Chou
Fighting games actually are very current. There are tons of them being made, 
especially in Asia. I'm not entirely sure what you mean though.. are you 
talking about current as in popular, what people are playing at the time? 
Because that changes depending on what the new fad is... seems like most of 
what you're refering to are shooters as those are the examples you've given. 
I wasn't trying to criticize, I know you are just curious... most people 
are. lol And racing games, depending on which game you're talking about, can 
be playable to a degree. I can't think of any off the top of my head. 
Fighting games are where i spend most of my time.. especially with the 
inclusion of online features. And fighting games are actually quite popular 
and out in the open now... there are a lot of fighting game tournaments and 
they are probably one of the few genres that allows for competition. And now 
that internet streaming of tournaments is so common, fighting games are 
getting more and more noticed.
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From: Mike Wassel blindndanger...@aim.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 8:11 PM
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for this community to learn?



Yes sports games are possible. But answer me this: How do you play racing 
games?  How do you know where to turn or if you're going the wrong way? 
Rockband I understand, it's a great game and I like playing it.  I guess 
my point is that we can't play more of the current things if that makes 
sense.  Like COD or Resident Evil.  That's why I like playing games like 
Final Fantasy X, Kingdom Hearts and Mass Effect (to a degree).  I guess 
you could play third person shooters if you do what I do and use a lock-on 
system or use sound cues which is how I play them, ut FPS's are, I think, 
out completely.  I'm not trying to make it sound like totals can't, I'm 
really just curious.

Mike.

On Jun 24, 2013, at 11:00 PM, lenron brown lenro...@gmail.com wrote:


very true I love racing games and many others on my x box 360 it
sometimes just takes practice

On 6/24/13, Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote:
Let's just say that as a total we've been able to play more games than 
most


people expect... even my friends with low vision. Fighting games are
probaqbly boring only because you play against the computer... it's much
more stimulating to play against humans and delve into the meet of the 
game


which is usually more mental. Street Fighter IV, for example, has pretty
simple mechanics. But those mechanics build into longer combos and 
strategy


that can't be found in any other genre. But totals can play the majority 
of


hack n slashes to at least a certain degree. Many people are able to 
play
Ninja gaiden 3 without issue and are already close to beating the game, 
and


games such as Rock Band and some sports games are also playable. But 
that's


a whole other topic. lol
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Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 3:55 AM
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I am not about to read 40 messages, so I will just comment on this 
first

one.  I agree with Thomas on his points.  While I don't play many audio
games mainly because I don't care for the content when I have other 
games
on my ps2/ps3 that I play more, I see it all the time with this 
community
that people aren't happy, that they bitch and moan about keys/cracks 
of

games all the time after a game is released, and even after it's been
released.  However, you can't put the blind community at 100% fault. 
The

same thing goes on with sighted gamers.  But since we are a relatively
smaller community it hits a lot harder.  If you don't have a thick skin 
and


can just let comments roll off, you're going to quit.  This is why I 
don't


develop.  One reason is because I don't have the time to do it, the 
other
reason is if  I did and started to get a whole lot of complaints, I 
know

I'd explode on somebody.
I've said it before.  These debs go through a lot of work to create a 
game


for everyone to enjoy.  It takes a while to code and find bugs and get 
rid


of them.  I'm glad Jeremy has not quit his work because right now, he's
the only one that is making modern games for us.  If he wasn't here, I
doubt that TRTR would've been made or any of the other games that are
starting to come out.  The same thing happened with Entombed.  That was
the closest that I've ever seen an audio game come to final fantasy. 
I'd


like to see more like that, however I know that that starts to get 
harder


because with more complex things you want happening, the more code you
need to put in/the more time you need to put into the game.
Another person who has been working with this for a while is Dentin. 
He's


actually put in code for us to make Alter better and easier to 

Re: [Audyssey] Golf

2013-06-25 Thread shaun everiss

I do like kitchen style golf.
But yeah I have actually played minigolf, boling, 
and normal golf with sighted pears.

I have found it extremely boring and slow playing.
But then its the same with the other stuff I 
enjoy gambling at a casino in the kitchensinc 
universe and also I enjoy driving the truck 
thinking on numbers for fuel and other things 
when I should knock off for the day etc.
One thing I think we really need in the next 
generation of games are games which are not just crappy crap.
I don't mean our games in general are crap, 
however I have noticed in the sighted world that 
a lot of stuff is just point shoot.
I really harken back to the old days on if games 
etc where you had to think to save your meat and 
while we don't really have an issue I  woory that we may get like that.

Randomness ofcause and other things.
Smuglers 5 is an example.
its got a large database of stories, events words 
and things and mucks it all up into 1 junky pile.
Now Its know that things are limited but it can 
be put in such a way that you never know what 
will happen which is why I still play it.

In a battle I could win or suddenly I could be on the loosing end.

At 03:26 PM 6/25/2013, you wrote:
The funny thing is that while I enjoy Kitchen 
style golf I actually despise the real thing.




Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
-Original Message- From: James Bartlett
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 8:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Golf

Hi Jim

   Cool can't wait to check it out. sounds like it would be fun.

bfn
James

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From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 8:33 PM
To: Gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] Golf


Hi,

I have put a new file up on my web site.

File name; wingolfy.exe  File size 1.7 meg

Golf version 11 comes with 342 golf courses and 
the golf game as well as the golf course maker 
program now write their files to your documents\kitchensinc folder.


The wingolfy.exe file can be found on my free 
windows sapi5 text to speech games page.


BFN
Jim

Kitchen's Inc, for games that are up to 110 percent funner to play.

j...@kitchensinc.net
http://www.kitchensinc.net
(440) 286-6920
Chardon Ohio USA
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Re: [Audyssey] Golf

2013-06-25 Thread James Bartlett

hI there

   Yes I do agry with you on that games to day seem to me to be to shallo. 
What I meen is that there is no thinking behind it to play. I want a game 
that a 4 yearold can't just pick up a controller and get half way thru it in 
a day.


bfn
James

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Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 2:29 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Golf


I do like kitchen style golf.
But yeah I have actually played minigolf, boling, and normal golf with 
sighted pears.

I have found it extremely boring and slow playing.
But then its the same with the other stuff I enjoy gambling at a casino in 
the kitchensinc universe and also I enjoy driving the truck thinking on 
numbers for fuel and other things when I should knock off for the day etc.
One thing I think we really need in the next generation of games are games 
which are not just crappy crap.
I don't mean our games in general are crap, however I have noticed in the 
sighted world that a lot of stuff is just point shoot.
I really harken back to the old days on if games etc where you had to 
think to save your meat and while we don't really have an issue I  woory 
that we may get like that.

Randomness ofcause and other things.
Smuglers 5 is an example.
its got a large database of stories, events words and things and mucks it 
all up into 1 junky pile.
Now Its know that things are limited but it can be put in such a way that 
you never know what will happen which is why I still play it.

In a battle I could win or suddenly I could be on the loosing end.

At 03:26 PM 6/25/2013, you wrote:
The funny thing is that while I enjoy Kitchen style golf I actually 
despise the real thing.




Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
-Original Message- From: James Bartlett
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 8:39 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Golf

Hi Jim

   Cool can't wait to check it out. sounds like it would be fun.

bfn
James

--
From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 8:33 PM
To: Gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] Golf


Hi,

I have put a new file up on my web site.

File name; wingolfy.exe  File size 1.7 meg

Golf version 11 comes with 342 golf courses and the golf game as well as 
the golf course maker program now write their files to your 
documents\kitchensinc folder.


The wingolfy.exe file can be found on my free windows sapi5 text to 
speech games page.


BFN
Jim

Kitchen's Inc, for games that are up to 110 percent funner to play.

j...@kitchensinc.net
http://www.kitchensinc.net
(440) 286-6920
Chardon Ohio USA
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Re: [Audyssey] Golf

2013-06-25 Thread Bryan Peterson
Well aside from the general boringness my other major problem with real life 
golf is I can never get my swing just right. In fact the last time I tried 
it I almost hit the guy who was helping me in shall we say a rather tender 
region.




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Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
-Original Message- 
From: shaun everiss

Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 12:29 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Golf

I do like kitchen style golf.
But yeah I have actually played minigolf, boling,
and normal golf with sighted pears.
I have found it extremely boring and slow playing.
But then its the same with the other stuff I
enjoy gambling at a casino in the kitchensinc
universe and also I enjoy driving the truck
thinking on numbers for fuel and other things
when I should knock off for the day etc.
One thing I think we really need in the next
generation of games are games which are not just crappy crap.
I don't mean our games in general are crap,
however I have noticed in the sighted world that
a lot of stuff is just point shoot.
I really harken back to the old days on if games
etc where you had to think to save your meat and
while we don't really have an issue I  woory that we may get like that.
Randomness ofcause and other things.
Smuglers 5 is an example.
its got a large database of stories, events words
and things and mucks it all up into 1 junky pile.
Now Its know that things are limited but it can
be put in such a way that you never know what
will happen which is why I still play it.
In a battle I could win or suddenly I could be on the loosing end.

At 03:26 PM 6/25/2013, you wrote:
The funny thing is that while I enjoy Kitchen style golf I actually despise 
the real thing.




Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
-Original Message- From: James Bartlett
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 8:39 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Golf

Hi Jim

   Cool can't wait to check it out. sounds like it would be fun.

bfn
James

--
From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 8:33 PM
To: Gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] Golf


Hi,

I have put a new file up on my web site.

File name; wingolfy.exe  File size 1.7 meg

Golf version 11 comes with 342 golf courses and the golf game as well as 
the golf course maker program now write their files to your 
documents\kitchensinc folder.


The wingolfy.exe file can be found on my free windows sapi5 text to speech 
games page.


BFN
Jim

Kitchen's Inc, for games that are up to 110 percent funner to play.

j...@kitchensinc.net
http://www.kitchensinc.net
(440) 286-6920
Chardon Ohio USA
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Re: [Audyssey] what will it take for this community to learn?

2013-06-25 Thread Chris H
Well, judging from the Chillingham review, the female voiceover sounds 
darn right miserable to the point she didn't really want to do it. The 
male voiceover didn't sound too bad. In Grizzly Gulch however, both 
voiceovers sounded like they were having fun and were really keen on 
doing it. Just my £0.02 worth and glad I haven't missed much from 
Chillingham.



Chris

On 25/06/2013 00:33, Desiree Oudinot wrote:

Well, this is my personal opinion, but you didn't miss much by not
playing Chillingham. That game really didn't impress me. However,
Grizzly Gulch was fun the first few times I played it. It just lacks
replay value. I can think of about 10 different ways I would have
expanded it myself, content I would have added, etc., so that even if
there were limits on randomizing the gameplay at that time either due
to programmer inexperience or software and hardware limitations of
then current systems, the game would have been at least a bit more
worthy of praise.

On 6/24/13, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

Lisa it sounds like it to me their games don't even work on the latest
and greatest I did buy Grizzly Gulch and wanted Chillingham but time
moved on and forgot all about it.


Chris

On 25/06/2013 00:06, Lisa Hayes wrote:

bAvisoft was a unique case they didn't give a sausage about their
customers or anyone else talk about bringing your demise on yourself.
Lisa Hayes




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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] what will it take for this community to learn?



Hi Brandon,

Definitely. It is for that very reason Bavisoft is no longer around.
Their website is history, and they were forced to shut down because of
their inability to be contacted. So I highly doubt we will ever hear
from them again.

Cheers!


On 6/24/13, Brandon Misch bmisch2...@gmail.com wrote:

well, bavisoft would have to be put into that category of not coming
through
with its customers. Sure,, not with keys but with whole orders as the
older
members on this list knows.


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Re: [Audyssey] what will it take for this community to learn?

2013-06-25 Thread Bryan Peterson
You know, I always felt the same way. And none of the characters in 
Chillingham were really memorable, let alone worth making fun of. At least 
in Grizzly Gulch you could laugh at the Marshall's gravelly voice or Cecil 
whistling on every S. In Chillingham the only character you could really 
have fun with was Bill the Hermit. In fact although I don't think it's been 
available for quite a few years Liam Erven once did a sort of parody sketch 
using clips of Old Bill and the main character Frederic. Of course that 
particular bit of audio would probably not be suitable for those under 
eighteen or so and certainly not for those who are easily offended. But if 
like me you have an at times offbeat sense of humor it was pretty hilarious.




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-Original Message- 
From: Chris H

Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 2:07 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] what will it take for this community to learn?

Well, judging from the Chillingham review, the female voiceover sounds
darn right miserable to the point she didn't really want to do it. The
male voiceover didn't sound too bad. In Grizzly Gulch however, both
voiceovers sounded like they were having fun and were really keen on
doing it. Just my £0.02 worth and glad I haven't missed much from
Chillingham.


Chris

On 25/06/2013 00:33, Desiree Oudinot wrote:

Well, this is my personal opinion, but you didn't miss much by not
playing Chillingham. That game really didn't impress me. However,
Grizzly Gulch was fun the first few times I played it. It just lacks
replay value. I can think of about 10 different ways I would have
expanded it myself, content I would have added, etc., so that even if
there were limits on randomizing the gameplay at that time either due
to programmer inexperience or software and hardware limitations of
then current systems, the game would have been at least a bit more
worthy of praise.

On 6/24/13, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

Lisa it sounds like it to me their games don't even work on the latest
and greatest I did buy Grizzly Gulch and wanted Chillingham but time
moved on and forgot all about it.


Chris

On 25/06/2013 00:06, Lisa Hayes wrote:

bAvisoft was a unique case they didn't give a sausage about their
customers or anyone else talk about bringing your demise on yourself.
Lisa Hayes




www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes

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Hi Brandon,

Definitely. It is for that very reason Bavisoft is no longer around.
Their website is history, and they were forced to shut down because of
their inability to be contacted. So I highly doubt we will ever hear
from them again.

Cheers!


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well, bavisoft would have to be put into that category of not coming
through
with its customers. Sure,, not with keys but with whole orders as the
older
members on this list knows.


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Re: [Audyssey] Golf

2013-06-25 Thread Charles Rivard
I'm really a lousy golfer when it comes to the real thing.  I can bowl a good 
golf score, and I can golf a really good bowling score.  (Grin.)  I do like 
Jim's game, though.

(Sent from my iPhone)

On Jun 24, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net 
wrote:

 The funny thing is that while I enjoy Kitchen style golf I actually despise 
 the real thing.
 
 
 
 Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
 Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
 -Original Message- From: James Bartlett
 Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 8:39 PM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Golf
 
 Hi Jim
 
   Cool can't wait to check it out. sounds like it would be fun.
 
 bfn
 James
 
 --
 From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net
 Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 8:33 PM
 To: Gamers@audyssey.org
 Subject: [Audyssey] Golf
 
 Hi,
 
 I have put a new file up on my web site.
 
 File name; wingolfy.exe  File size 1.7 meg
 
 Golf version 11 comes with 342 golf courses and the golf game as well as the 
 golf course maker program now write their files to your 
 documents\kitchensinc folder.
 
 The wingolfy.exe file can be found on my free windows sapi5 text to speech 
 games page.
 
 BFN
Jim
 
 Kitchen's Inc, for games that are up to 110 percent funner to play.
 
 j...@kitchensinc.net
 http://www.kitchensinc.net
 (440) 286-6920
 Chardon Ohio USA
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Re: [Audyssey] Golf

2013-06-25 Thread Charles Rivard
When it comes to the real sports, I can golf a great bowling score, and I can 
bowl a good golf score.  I do enjoy Jim's golf game, though, as well as Tenpin 
Alley.

(Sent from my iPhone)

On Jun 24, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net 
wrote:

 The funny thing is that while I enjoy Kitchen style golf I actually despise 
 the real thing.
 
 
 
 Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
 Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
 -Original Message- From: James Bartlett
 Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 8:39 PM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Golf
 
 Hi Jim
 
   Cool can't wait to check it out. sounds like it would be fun.
 
 bfn
 James
 
 --
 From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net
 Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 8:33 PM
 To: Gamers@audyssey.org
 Subject: [Audyssey] Golf
 
 Hi,
 
 I have put a new file up on my web site.
 
 File name; wingolfy.exe  File size 1.7 meg
 
 Golf version 11 comes with 342 golf courses and the golf game as well as the 
 golf course maker program now write their files to your 
 documents\kitchensinc folder.
 
 The wingolfy.exe file can be found on my free windows sapi5 text to speech 
 games page.
 
 BFN
Jim
 
 Kitchen's Inc, for games that are up to 110 percent funner to play.
 
 j...@kitchensinc.net
 http://www.kitchensinc.net
 (440) 286-6920
 Chardon Ohio USA
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Re: [Audyssey] Golf

2013-06-25 Thread Jim Kitchen

Hi Bryan,

I have to agree with you.  I definitely no longer enjoy real golf or even 
miniature golf.  It is just frustrating.  I mean even more so without sight.

BFN

Jim

 Long ago when men cursed and beat the ground with sticks, it was called 
witchcraft.  Today, it's called golf!

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Re: [Audyssey] games playable on consoles [was]Re: what will ittake for this community to learn?

2013-06-25 Thread Jim Kitchen


Hi James,

Probably not as good as the professional main stream racing games but I do have 
Mach 1 and Mach 1 tts which are both totally accessible.

Mach 1 can have other cars on the track but it does not support a steering 
wheel like Mach 1 tts.  The sounds are better in Mach 1 tts.

The wincar6c.zip file can be found on my free windows self voicing games page.

The wincart2.exe file can be found on my free windows sapi5 text to speech 
games page.

BFN

Jim

Check my web site for my 35 free games.

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Re: [Audyssey] Golf

2013-06-25 Thread Jim Kitchen

Hi Charles,

Yes, all previous golf courses will still work with the game.  I hopefully did 
not change the game any.  It just now writes to your documents\kitchensinc 
folder and all 13 add on sets of golf courses are now in with the game itself.

Of course some one just sent me a new course.  Knew that would happen. grin

BFN

Jim

Bourbon  beans...an explosive combination. Kirk

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Re: [Audyssey] Golf

2013-06-25 Thread shaun everiss

well I can bowl on the track and I can manually swing from the line.
if a sightling tells me what to go I can put the ball. or drive it.
Right, but take away the pc arcade sound of jims 
game and in half an  hour or so I am quite bored out of my bushes.

I have never been able to really enjoy something like this in reality.
With the sims its fine but yeah.

At 09:15 PM 6/25/2013, you wrote:
When it comes to the real sports, I can golf a 
great bowling score, and I can bowl a good golf 
score.  I do enjoy Jim's golf game, though, as 
well as Tenpin Alley. (Sent from my iPhone) On 
Jun 24, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Bryan Peterson 
bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote:  The funny 
thing is that while I enjoy Kitchen style golf I 
actually despise the real thing. Ash 
nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,  Ash nazg 
thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.  
-Original Message- From: James 
Bartlett  Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 8:39 PM  
To: Gamers Discussion list  Subject: Re: 
[Audyssey] Golf   Hi Jim Cool can't wait 
to check it out. sounds like it would be 
fun.   bfn  James   
--  
 From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net  
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 8:33 PM  To: 
Gamers@audyssey.org  Subject: [Audyssey] 
Golf   Hi,   I have put a new file up on 
my web site.   File name; wingolfy.exe  File 
size 1.7 meg   Golf version 11 comes with 
342 golf courses and the golf game as well as 
the golf course maker program now write their 
files to your documents\kitchensinc 
folder.   The wingolfy.exe file can be found 
on my free windows sapi5 text to speech games 
page.   BFN Jim   Kitchen's Inc, 
for games that are up to 110 percent funner to 
play.   j...@kitchensinc.net  
http://www.kitchensinc.net  (440) 286-6920  
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Re: [Audyssey] what will it take for this community to learn?

2013-06-25 Thread Darren Duff
Oh man I would love to hear that lol! 

-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan
Peterson
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 4:47 AM
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You know, I always felt the same way. And none of the characters in
Chillingham were really memorable, let alone worth making fun of. At least
in Grizzly Gulch you could laugh at the Marshall's gravelly voice or Cecil
whistling on every S. In Chillingham the only character you could really
have fun with was Bill the Hermit. In fact although I don't think it's been
available for quite a few years Liam Erven once did a sort of parody sketch
using clips of Old Bill and the main character Frederic. Of course that
particular bit of audio would probably not be suitable for those under
eighteen or so and certainly not for those who are easily offended. But if
like me you have an at times offbeat sense of humor it was pretty hilarious.



Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
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From: Chris H
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 2:07 AM
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Well, judging from the Chillingham review, the female voiceover sounds darn
right miserable to the point she didn't really want to do it. The male
voiceover didn't sound too bad. In Grizzly Gulch however, both voiceovers
sounded like they were having fun and were really keen on doing it. Just my
£0.02 worth and glad I haven't missed much from Chillingham.


Chris

On 25/06/2013 00:33, Desiree Oudinot wrote:
 Well, this is my personal opinion, but you didn't miss much by not 
 playing Chillingham. That game really didn't impress me. However, 
 Grizzly Gulch was fun the first few times I played it. It just lacks 
 replay value. I can think of about 10 different ways I would have 
 expanded it myself, content I would have added, etc., so that even if 
 there were limits on randomizing the gameplay at that time either due 
 to programmer inexperience or software and hardware limitations of 
 then current systems, the game would have been at least a bit more 
 worthy of praise.

 On 6/24/13, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 Lisa it sounds like it to me their games don't even work on the 
 latest and greatest I did buy Grizzly Gulch and wanted Chillingham 
 but time moved on and forgot all about it.


 Chris

 On 25/06/2013 00:06, Lisa Hayes wrote:
 bAvisoft was a unique case they didn't give a sausage about their 
 customers or anyone else talk about bringing your demise on yourself.
 Lisa Hayes




 www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes

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 Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 1:06 AM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] what will it take for this community to learn?


 Hi Brandon,

 Definitely. It is for that very reason Bavisoft is no longer around.
 Their website is history, and they were forced to shut down because 
 of their inability to be contacted. So I highly doubt we will ever 
 hear from them again.

 Cheers!


 On 6/24/13, Brandon Misch bmisch2...@gmail.com wrote:
 well, bavisoft would have to be put into that category of not 
 coming through with its customers. Sure,, not with keys but with 
 whole orders as the older members on this list knows.

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Re: [Audyssey] what will it take for this community to learn?

2013-06-25 Thread Mike Maslo



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On June 24, 2013 11:05:24 AM Sky Mundell s...@shaw.ca wrote:

Hello Thomas, I checked the sight and it is indeed shut down. Onnistly I
can't blame you guys. They are really really out of date, in my opinion

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Hi Brandon,

Definitely. It is for that very reason Bavisoft is no longer around.
Their website is history, and they were forced to shut down because of their
inability to be contacted. So I highly doubt we will ever hear from them
again.

Cheers!


On 6/24/13, Brandon Misch bmisch2...@gmail.com wrote:
 well, bavisoft would have to be put into that category of not coming 
through with its customers. Sure,, not with keys but with whole orders as 
the older members on this list knows.


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Re: [Audyssey] Golf

2013-06-25 Thread Charles Rivard
So, if I wanted to have a smaller folder of your games, I could delete all 
previous files having to do with golf and only have this latest one, which is 
all inclusive?  Thanks.

(Sent from my iPhone)

On Jun 25, 2013, at 4:57 AM, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote:

 Hi Charles,
 
 Yes, all previous golf courses will still work with the game.  I hopefully 
 did not change the game any.  It just now writes to your 
 documents\kitchensinc folder and all 13 add on sets of golf courses are now 
 in with the game itself.
 
 Of course some one just sent me a new course.  Knew that would happen. grin
 
 BFN
 
Jim
 
 Bourbon  beans...an explosive combination. Kirk
 
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Re: [Audyssey] games playable on consoles [was]Re: what will ittakefor this community to learn?

2013-06-25 Thread James Bartlett

Hi Jim

   Yes I know I've tried them out, but it's just not the same. My taste in 
games have changed since I went blind.


bfn
James

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ittakefor this community to learn?




Hi James,

Probably not as good as the professional main stream racing games but I do 
have Mach 1 and Mach 1 tts which are both totally accessible.


Mach 1 can have other cars on the track but it does not support a steering 
wheel like Mach 1 tts.  The sounds are better in Mach 1 tts.


The wincar6c.zip file can be found on my free windows self voicing games 
page.


The wincart2.exe file can be found on my free windows sapi5 text to speech 
games page.


BFN

Jim

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[Audyssey] need mush-z help

2013-06-25 Thread James Bartlett
Hello all

Last night I tried to download the win amp plugin for mush-z, but when I 
ran mush after that it wouldn't run alter aeon. I tried to go to the mush-z 
website and redownload mush, but it wouldn't let me. Can someone help me with 
this?

t y
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[Audyssey] looking for free sound files on internet

2013-06-25 Thread Keith
hi, I'm looking to make a soundpack for cyberassault and am looking for good 
places on the net to download free sound effects and sound bites.


Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: [Audyssey] what will it take for this community to learn?

2013-06-25 Thread Bryan Peterson

I only wish I had it. LOL.



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Oh man I would love to hear that lol!

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You know, I always felt the same way. And none of the characters in
Chillingham were really memorable, let alone worth making fun of. At least
in Grizzly Gulch you could laugh at the Marshall's gravelly voice or Cecil
whistling on every S. In Chillingham the only character you could really
have fun with was Bill the Hermit. In fact although I don't think it's been
available for quite a few years Liam Erven once did a sort of parody sketch
using clips of Old Bill and the main character Frederic. Of course that
particular bit of audio would probably not be suitable for those under
eighteen or so and certainly not for those who are easily offended. But if
like me you have an at times offbeat sense of humor it was pretty hilarious.



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Well, judging from the Chillingham review, the female voiceover sounds darn
right miserable to the point she didn't really want to do it. The male
voiceover didn't sound too bad. In Grizzly Gulch however, both voiceovers
sounded like they were having fun and were really keen on doing it. Just my
£0.02 worth and glad I haven't missed much from Chillingham.


Chris

On 25/06/2013 00:33, Desiree Oudinot wrote:

Well, this is my personal opinion, but you didn't miss much by not
playing Chillingham. That game really didn't impress me. However,
Grizzly Gulch was fun the first few times I played it. It just lacks
replay value. I can think of about 10 different ways I would have
expanded it myself, content I would have added, etc., so that even if
there were limits on randomizing the gameplay at that time either due
to programmer inexperience or software and hardware limitations of
then current systems, the game would have been at least a bit more
worthy of praise.

On 6/24/13, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

Lisa it sounds like it to me their games don't even work on the
latest and greatest I did buy Grizzly Gulch and wanted Chillingham
but time moved on and forgot all about it.


Chris

On 25/06/2013 00:06, Lisa Hayes wrote:

bAvisoft was a unique case they didn't give a sausage about their
customers or anyone else talk about bringing your demise on yourself.
Lisa Hayes




www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes

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Hi Brandon,

Definitely. It is for that very reason Bavisoft is no longer around.
Their website is history, and they were forced to shut down because
of their inability to be contacted. So I highly doubt we will ever
hear from them again.

Cheers!


On 6/24/13, Brandon Misch bmisch2...@gmail.com wrote:

well, bavisoft would have to be put into that category of not
coming through with its customers. Sure,, not with keys but with
whole orders as the older members on this list knows.


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Re: [Audyssey] looking for free sound files on internet

2013-06-25 Thread Michael Taboada

Hi Keith,
a great one is freesounds.org. note that legally you must attribute some of 
the sounds in their database in your project, although I'm sure not everyone 
does that (note that I'm not saying to or not to here, just to be clear).
I've found it a great place for putting in sounds until I can get royalty 
free ones.

Hth,
-Michael.


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hi, I'm looking to make a soundpack for cyberassault and am looking for good
places on the net to download free sound effects and sound bites.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Keith


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Re: [Audyssey] games playable on consoles [was]Re: what will ittake for this community to learn?

2013-06-25 Thread Paul Lemm
Hi Jim,

I haven't tried mock1 TTS but I'll give it a go.  When you say it can be
used with a steering wheel is that just any conventional  gaming steering
wheel?

Paul 


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Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:58 AM
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for this community to learn?


Hi James,

Probably not as good as the professional main stream racing games but I do
have Mach 1 and Mach 1 tts which are both totally accessible.

Mach 1 can have other cars on the track but it does not support a steering
wheel like Mach 1 tts.  The sounds are better in Mach 1 tts.

The wincar6c.zip file can be found on my free windows self voicing games
page.

The wincart2.exe file can be found on my free windows sapi5 text to speech
games page.

BFN

 Jim

Check my web site for my 35 free games.

j...@kitchensinc.net
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[Audyssey] Question on Kitchensinc.

2013-06-25 Thread Ryan Conroy
Hey everyone,
I'm trying to play some games from kitchensinc, and I'm not able  to change to 
a different sappi voice. As you know, it gives the option before every game 
asking you if you want a different voice or not. Is anyone else having this 
problem? I'm running windows 7. Just curious if anyone has experienced this. 
I've ran the sappi fixer from Jim's website, but it didn't fix it.

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Re: [Audyssey] games playable on consoles [was]Re: what will it take for this community to learn?

2013-06-25 Thread Paul Lemm
Hi Mike,

Hope you don't mind me asking, but I used to play the final fantasy games on
my playstation  and they are some of my favourite main stream games, but the
ones I have played have always been very text heavy with battle menus and
most character speech has been text to.  you said you played final fantasy x
though , do you still play  now  and have you found it to be in anyway
accessible?

Paul 

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Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 4:11 AM
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take for this community to learn?

Yes sports games are possible. But answer me this: How do you play racing
games?  How do you know where to turn or if you're going the wrong way?
Rockband I understand, it's a great game and I like playing it.  I guess my
point is that we can't play more of the current things if that makes sense.
Like COD or Resident Evil.  That's why I like playing games like Final
Fantasy X, Kingdom Hearts and Mass Effect (to a degree).  I guess you could
play third person shooters if you do what I do and use a lock-on system or
use sound cues which is how I play them, ut FPS's are, I think, out
completely.  I'm not trying to make it sound like totals can't, I'm really
just curious.
Mike.

On Jun 24, 2013, at 11:00 PM, lenron brown lenro...@gmail.com wrote:

 very true I love racing games and many others on my x box 360 it 
 sometimes just takes practice
 
 On 6/24/13, Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote:
 Let's just say that as a total we've been able to play more games 
 than most
 
 people expect... even my friends with low vision. Fighting games are 
 probaqbly boring only because you play against the computer... it's 
 much more stimulating to play against humans and delve into the meet 
 of the game
 
 which is usually more mental. Street Fighter IV, for example, has 
 pretty simple mechanics. But those mechanics build into longer combos 
 and strategy
 
 that can't be found in any other genre. But totals can play the 
 majority of
 
 hack n slashes to at least a certain degree. Many people are able to 
 play Ninja gaiden 3 without issue and are already close to beating 
 the game, and
 
 games such as Rock Band and some sports games are also playable. But 
 that's
 
 a whole other topic. lol
 - Original Message -
 From: Mike Wassel blindndanger...@aim.com
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 3:55 AM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] what will it take for this community to learn?
 
 
 I am not about to read 40 messages, so I will just comment on this 
 first one.  I agree with Thomas on his points.  While I don't play 
 many audio games mainly because I don't care for the content when I 
 have other games on my ps2/ps3 that I play more, I see it all the 
 time with this community that people aren't happy, that they bitch 
 and moan about keys/cracks  of games all the time after a game is 
 released, and even after it's been released.  However, you can't put 
 the blind community at 100% fault.  The same thing goes on with 
 sighted gamers.  But since we are a relatively smaller community it 
 hits a lot harder.  If you don't have a thick skin and
 
 can just let comments roll off, you're going to quit.  This is why I 
 don't
 
 develop.  One reason is because I don't have the time to do it, the 
 other reason is if  I did and started to get a whole lot of 
 complaints, I know I'd explode on somebody.
 I've said it before.  These debs go through a lot of work to create 
 a game
 
 for everyone to enjoy.  It takes a while to code and find bugs and 
 get rid
 
 of them.  I'm glad Jeremy has not quit his work because right now, 
 he's the only one that is making modern games for us.  If he wasn't 
 here, I doubt that TRTR would've been made or any of the other games 
 that are starting to come out.  The same thing happened with 
 Entombed.  That was the closest that I've ever seen an audio game 
 come to final fantasy.  I'd
 
 like to see more like that, however I know that that starts to get 
 harder
 
 because with more complex things you want happening, the more code 
 you need to put in/the more time you need to put into the game.
 Another person who has been working with this for a while is Dentin.  
 He's
 
 actually put in code for us to make Alter better and easier to play.  
 Not
 
 only does he put up with sighted people bitching at him because 
 equipment
 
 gets dented or things are really hard, but he's putting up with the 
 blind
 
 community complaining when mush-z doesn't work.  Hopefully most of 
 those messages get sent to the right channel but who knows.
 I don't know if I'll read this thread after I send this message.  
 But I'll
 
 repeat what I said at the beginning of this reply.  While we are a 
 smaller
 
 community, we can not put all the blame on the blind people.  This 
 kind of
 

Re: [Audyssey] Question on Kitchensinc.

2013-06-25 Thread john
That would depend on if you have other voices installed. By 
default windows seven only comes with microsoft anna.


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To: gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 17:59:21 GMT
Subject: [Audyssey] Question on Kitchensinc.

Hey everyone,
I'm trying to play some games from kitchensinc, and I'm not able  
to change to a different sappi voice. As you know, it gives the 
option before every game asking you if you want a different voice 
or not. Is anyone else having this problem? I'm running windows 
7. Just curious if anyone has experienced this. I've ran the 
sappi fixer from Jim's website, but it didn't fix it.


Thanks.

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Re: [Audyssey] Question on Kitchensinc.

2013-06-25 Thread Ryan Conroy
I have like 20 other voices. That's why I'm wondering why this is happening. I 
always get problems when I try to change the voice. It's weird

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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Question on Kitchensinc.
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 14:44:42 -0400

That would depend on if you have other voices installed. By 
default windows seven only comes with microsoft anna.

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To: gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 17:59:21 GMT
Subject: [Audyssey] Question on Kitchensinc.

Hey everyone,
I'm trying to play some games from kitchensinc, and I'm not able  
to change to a different sappi voice. As you know, it gives the 
option before every game asking you if you want a different voice 
or not. Is anyone else having this problem? I'm running windows 
7. Just curious if anyone has experienced this. I've ran the 
sappi fixer from Jim's website, but it didn't fix it.

Thanks.

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Re: [Audyssey] Question on Kitchensinc.

2013-06-25 Thread john

In that case I've got no clue, sorry.

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From: Ryan Conroy staindadd...@juno.com
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 18:47:44 GMT
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Question on Kitchensinc.

I have like 20 other voices. That's why I'm wondering why this is 
happening. I always get problems when I try to change the voice. 
It's weird


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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Question on Kitchensinc.
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 14:44:42 -0400

That would depend on if you have other voices installed. By
default windows seven only comes with microsoft anna.

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To: gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 17:59:21 GMT
Subject: [Audyssey] Question on Kitchensinc.

Hey everyone,
I'm trying to play some games from kitchensinc, and I'm not able
to change to a different sappi voice. As you know, it gives the
option before every game asking you if you want a different voice
or not. Is anyone else having this problem? I'm running windows
7. Just curious if anyone has experienced this. I've ran the
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Thanks.

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Re: [Audyssey] Question on Kitchensinc.

2013-06-25 Thread Thomas Ward
Ryan, that usually happens if you are running both 64-bit and 32-bit
SAPI voices on the machine. The fix or solution to said problem is to
open up the 32-bit SAPI control panel manually, and set the voice you
want as the system default.

Cheers!

On 6/25/13, Ryan Conroy staindadd...@juno.com wrote:
 Hey everyone,
 I'm trying to play some games from kitchensinc, and I'm not able  to change
 to a different sappi voice. As you know, it gives the option before every
 game asking you if you want a different voice or not. Is anyone else having
 this problem? I'm running windows 7. Just curious if anyone has experienced
 this. I've ran the sappi fixer from Jim's website, but it didn't fix it.

 Thanks.

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Re: [Audyssey] Question on Kitchensinc.

2013-06-25 Thread shaun everiss

its always done that.
when you run a game and choose things each char has a different voice 
you can use the same voice ofcause.


At 05:59 AM 6/26/2013, you wrote:

Hey everyone,
I'm trying to play some games from kitchensinc, and I'm not able  to 
change to a different sappi voice. As you know, it gives the option 
before every game asking you if you want a different voice or not. 
Is anyone else having this problem? I'm running windows 7. Just 
curious if anyone has experienced this. I've ran the sappi fixer 
from Jim's website, but it didn't fix it.


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Re: [Audyssey] games playable on consoles [was]Re: what will it take for this community to learn?

2013-06-25 Thread Mike Wassel
If you learn the menus you can do the battles I guess.  However moving around 
and using the sphere grid would be pretty much impossible.
Mike.
On Jun 25, 2013, at 2:07 PM, Paul Lemm paul.l...@sky.com wrote:

 Hi Mike,
 
 Hope you don't mind me asking, but I used to play the final fantasy games on
 my playstation  and they are some of my favourite main stream games, but the
 ones I have played have always been very text heavy with battle menus and
 most character speech has been text to.  you said you played final fantasy x
 though , do you still play  now  and have you found it to be in anyway
 accessible?
 
 Paul 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Mike Wassel
 Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 4:11 AM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] games playable on consoles [was]Re: what will it
 take for this community to learn?
 
 Yes sports games are possible. But answer me this: How do you play racing
 games?  How do you know where to turn or if you're going the wrong way?
 Rockband I understand, it's a great game and I like playing it.  I guess my
 point is that we can't play more of the current things if that makes sense.
 Like COD or Resident Evil.  That's why I like playing games like Final
 Fantasy X, Kingdom Hearts and Mass Effect (to a degree).  I guess you could
 play third person shooters if you do what I do and use a lock-on system or
 use sound cues which is how I play them, ut FPS's are, I think, out
 completely.  I'm not trying to make it sound like totals can't, I'm really
 just curious.
 Mike.
 
 On Jun 24, 2013, at 11:00 PM, lenron brown lenro...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 very true I love racing games and many others on my x box 360 it 
 sometimes just takes practice
 
 On 6/24/13, Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote:
 Let's just say that as a total we've been able to play more games 
 than most
 
 people expect... even my friends with low vision. Fighting games are 
 probaqbly boring only because you play against the computer... it's 
 much more stimulating to play against humans and delve into the meet 
 of the game
 
 which is usually more mental. Street Fighter IV, for example, has 
 pretty simple mechanics. But those mechanics build into longer combos 
 and strategy
 
 that can't be found in any other genre. But totals can play the 
 majority of
 
 hack n slashes to at least a certain degree. Many people are able to 
 play Ninja gaiden 3 without issue and are already close to beating 
 the game, and
 
 games such as Rock Band and some sports games are also playable. But 
 that's
 
 a whole other topic. lol
 - Original Message -
 From: Mike Wassel blindndanger...@aim.com
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 3:55 AM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] what will it take for this community to learn?
 
 
 I am not about to read 40 messages, so I will just comment on this 
 first one.  I agree with Thomas on his points.  While I don't play 
 many audio games mainly because I don't care for the content when I 
 have other games on my ps2/ps3 that I play more, I see it all the 
 time with this community that people aren't happy, that they bitch 
 and moan about keys/cracks  of games all the time after a game is 
 released, and even after it's been released.  However, you can't put 
 the blind community at 100% fault.  The same thing goes on with 
 sighted gamers.  But since we are a relatively smaller community it 
 hits a lot harder.  If you don't have a thick skin and
 
 can just let comments roll off, you're going to quit.  This is why I 
 don't
 
 develop.  One reason is because I don't have the time to do it, the 
 other reason is if  I did and started to get a whole lot of 
 complaints, I know I'd explode on somebody.
 I've said it before.  These debs go through a lot of work to create 
 a game
 
 for everyone to enjoy.  It takes a while to code and find bugs and 
 get rid
 
 of them.  I'm glad Jeremy has not quit his work because right now, 
 he's the only one that is making modern games for us.  If he wasn't 
 here, I doubt that TRTR would've been made or any of the other games 
 that are starting to come out.  The same thing happened with 
 Entombed.  That was the closest that I've ever seen an audio game 
 come to final fantasy.  I'd
 
 like to see more like that, however I know that that starts to get 
 harder
 
 because with more complex things you want happening, the more code 
 you need to put in/the more time you need to put into the game.
 Another person who has been working with this for a while is Dentin.  
 He's
 
 actually put in code for us to make Alter better and easier to play.  
 Not
 
 only does he put up with sighted people bitching at him because 
 equipment
 
 gets dented or things are really hard, but he's putting up with the 
 blind
 
 community complaining when mush-z doesn't work.  Hopefully most of 
 those messages get sent to the right channel but who 

Re: [Audyssey] games playable on consoles [was]Re: what willit take for this community to learn?

2013-06-25 Thread Tony James
Hi, I can play Mortal Kombat 9/2011 just fine on my PS3.  The 
menus are a bit tough but once you get used to them, you can play 
it just fine.  It helps that I have knowledge of two previous 
incarnations of the game for the Sega Genesis though of course, 
much has changed.  I enjoy it although a couple characters that 
were my most faithful fighters have dropped in this incarnation, 
but that may change with time..


- Original Message -
From: Mike Wassel blindndanger...@aim.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 18:12:38 -0400
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] games playable on consoles [was]Re: what 
willit	take for this community to learn?


If you learn the menus you can do the battles I guess.  However 
moving around and using the sphere grid would be pretty much 
impossible.

Mike.
On Jun 25, 2013, at 2:07 PM, Paul Lemm paul.l...@sky.com 
wrote:


Hi Mike,

Hope you don't mind me asking, but I used to play the final 
fantasy games on
my playstation  and they are some of my favourite main stream 
games, but the
ones I have played have always been very text heavy with battle 
menus and
most character speech has been text to.  you said you played 
final fantasy x
though , do you still play  now  and have you found it to be in 
anyway

accessible?

Paul

-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of 
Mike Wassel

Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 4:11 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] games playable on consoles [was]Re: what 
will it

take for this community to learn?

Yes sports games are possible.  But answer me this: How do you 
play racing
games?  How do you know where to turn or if you're going the 
wrong way?
Rockband I understand, it's a great game and I like playing it.  
I guess my
point is that we can't play more of the current things if that 
makes sense.
Like COD or Resident Evil.  That's why I like playing games like 
Final
Fantasy X, Kingdom Hearts and Mass Effect (to a degree).  I 
guess you could
play third person shooters if you do what I do and use a lock-on 
system or
use sound cues which is how I play them, ut FPS's are, I think, 
out
completely.  I'm not trying to make it sound like totals can't, 
I'm really

just curious.
Mike.

On Jun 24, 2013, at 11:00 PM, lenron brown lenro...@gmail.com 
wrote:


very true I love racing games and many others on my x box 360 it
sometimes just takes practice

On 6/24/13, Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote:
Let's just say that as a total we've been able to play more 
games

than most

people expect...  even my friends with low vision.  Fighting 
games are
probaqbly boring only because you play against the computer...  
it's
much more stimulating to play against humans and delve into the 
meet

of the game

which is usually more mental.  Street Fighter IV, for example, 
has
pretty simple mechanics.  But those mechanics build into longer 
combos

and strategy

that can't be found in any other genre.  But totals can play the
majority of

hack n slashes to at least a certain degree.  Many people are 
able to
play Ninja gaiden 3 without issue and are already close to 
beating

the game, and

games such as Rock Band and some sports games are also playable.  
But

that's

a whole other topic.  lol
- Original Message -
From: Mike Wassel blindndanger...@aim.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 3:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] what will it take for this community to 
learn?



I am not about to read 40 messages, so I will just comment on 
this
first one.  I agree with Thomas on his points.  While I don't 
play
many audio games mainly because I don't care for the content 
when I
have other games on my ps2/ps3 that I play more, I see it all 
the
time with this community that people aren't happy, that they 
bitch
and moan about keys/cracks  of games all the time after a game 
is
released, and even after it's been released.  However, you can't 
put

the blind community at 100% fault.  The same thing goes on with
sighted gamers.  But since we are a relatively smaller community 
it

hits a lot harder.  If you don't have a thick skin and

can just let comments roll off, you're going to quit.  This is 
why I

don't

develop.  One reason is because I don't have the time to do it, 
the

other reason is if  I did and started to get a whole lot of
complaints, I know I'd explode on somebody.
I've said it before.  These debs go through a lot of work to 
create

a game

for everyone to enjoy.  It takes a while to code and find bugs 
and

get rid

of them.  I'm glad Jeremy has not quit his work because right 
now,
he's the only one that is making modern games for us.  If he 
wasn't
here, I doubt that TRTR would've been made or any of the other 
games

that are starting to come out.  The same thing happened with
Entombed.  That was the closest that I've ever seen an audio 
game

come to final fantasy.  I'd

like to see