Shaun - hadn't actually thought of it before, and only issue is you won't be
able to change voices/voice variants, unless gets tweaked to handle
additional command line arguments, but, HYG - compiled emu.py into single
executable file for running on windows machines, and it should have included
Shaun, this page seems to be offering download of signed, 32 bit version of
com0com:
http://code.google.com/p/powersdr-iq/downloads/detail?name=setup_com0com_W7_x86_signed.execan=2q=
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Hi Josh,
No. Although, Dosemu is an easier solution that isn't the one I was
speaking of. For me the easiest solution to the Dos problem is to
install a 32-bit copy of Windows XP into VMWare and use that. Most Dos
stuff works fine with Jaws, NVDA, or Window-Eyes under XP so I see no
need to run
Shaun, see my other reply to Thomas - smile - was talking about launching
the VMWare instance of dos 6.22, firing up windows 3.1 inside it, and then
launching that 16 bit version of dos from a terminal window, operating
through the windows driver system, etc.
Stay well
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hmmm the easiest way would to add in nvda controler support or
something like universal speech or one of the intigrated screen
reader libraries.
At 08:33 a.m. 5/01/2015, you wrote:
Hi Shaun,
Well, integrating Espeak itself wouldn't be hard. The problem is that
all you have is TTS support,
so do I sadly I don't have one of those anymore.
At 09:35 a.m. 5/01/2015, you wrote:
I really miss the keynote gold.
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On 1/3/2015 4:34 PM, shaun everiss wrote:
well fact is on old xp I had 2
Hi josh.
I had a look at the stuff, sadly since the com0com drivers are 64 bit
only I couldn't install them.
So at this time I won't continue right now at least till I can get
some time with an x64 box later on.
However after looking at all packages needed there are several
shortcuts I think
tom what would happen if you ran everything under cygwin I know thats
a lot of messing round, but you could at least run linux under
windows, I have heard about the co linux standard dristros a while
back if one of those could run under windows I could in theory handle
both oses maybe not at
hmm how do you set dosbox for that, I will get and try both salutions later on
At 09:48 a.m. 5/01/2015, you wrote:
braille n speak server you set up your dos screen reader for a
braille n speak on com1 set up dosbox for a realPort and direct-port
as com8 both com8 run your screen reader all
hmmm it occurs to me josh that if the vertual bns were compiled with
all libs we shouldn't need python at all!
At 09:51 a.m. 5/01/2015, you wrote:
oh yes virtual braille n speak server is open source python.
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Nope, don't have call to s.bat in autoexec.bat.
Would also have guessed that there'd be some or other command line argument
to in fact kill ASAP after it had been launched, but, not too sure.
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On 1/5/2015 3:32 AM, shaun everiss wrote:
Hi josh.
I had a look at the stuff, sadly since the com0com drivers are 64 bit
to kill asap hit control backslash then control q to quit asap.
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On 1/7/2015 8:51 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Nope, don't have call to s.bat in autoexec.bat.
Would also have guessed that there'd be
a few? there were a whole whole lot back in the day. definitely worth
it. also its worth it to preserve our history of accessibility or it
will be lost to time.
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On 1/7/2015 9:25 AM, Thomas
Hi Shaun,
Some very good questions. I had similar questions, but haven't had the
time or energy to ask them myself.
That said, you are right. Running an XP or even a Windows 98 virtual
machine is much easier to setup and get working than all this messing
around with actual Dos, com0com, the BNS
oh so asap is not in your autoexec.bat file then? ok then I'll try that
I'll remove it from my autoexec.bat file and start it manually after I
run windows and go into dos prompt from windows then.
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in windows3.1 there is an icon called dos prompt its that one, right?
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On 1/4/2015 4:18 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Think actually works a bit better, in terms of screen reading in the
dos prompt if
and that is why we have to use vmware player or virtualbox to play the
old games in emulated old systems.
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On 1/4/2015 12:42 PM, shaun everiss wrote:
the issue jakob is 64 bit windows will not
its the only way I can play the pinochle card game is in a virtual ms-dos.
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On 1/4/2015 12:42 PM, shaun everiss wrote:
the issue jakob is 64 bit windows will not run 16 bit dos games or 16
bit
it would sound better with an updated espeak.dll from latest test I
think, perhaps using one of the klatt variants for better
understabdability.
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On 1/7/2015 9:08 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Shaun
thanks I coppied it, and also saved it several places so I won't lose it
this time. sometimes I rush and go through things through stuff too fast
and forget to save important stuff. bad habbit of mine.
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Last week sometime am sure sent you an additional line added in under the
voice language line:
_espeak.setVoiceAndVariant(voice=None, variant=klatt4)
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- Original Message
hi jacob,
what do i have to modify to make it so that asap can also control
espeak's voice pitch? currently giving pitch commands does nothing. rate
or speed works fine, pitch does nothing.
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No idea - that would depend on code in emu.py - haven't had time to check it
out properly as of yet - sorry.
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- Original Message -
From: Josh k joshknnd1...@gmail.com
To: Gamers
Hello everyone,
Over the last couple of weeks there has been a bit of discussion on
the best way to preserve and play some of our favorite Dos games.
Solutions have ranged from finding a way to make Dosbox and other Dos
emulators accessible to actually running MS Dos in a virtual machine
with
we should still keep the vm's around to preserve real ms-dos itself.
just for fun.
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On 1/7/2015 6:00 PM, Thomas Ward wrote:
Hello everyone,
Over the last couple of weeks there has been a bit
I would like any night football and world series baseball text games. i
like sports they are my favorites.
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On 1/7/2015 6:00 PM, Thomas Ward wrote:
Hello everyone,
Over the last couple of
Hi Josh,
Speak for yourself. You are entirely missing the point of why I'd be
willing to rewrite some of these Dos games. The point is to get away
from the virtual machines, emulators, and extra dependencies so we
could just install and play the games as is. Anything else is too much
of a
Hi Josh,
Those are a couple of good suggestions, but two questions come to mind.
First, Jim Kitchen has a decent self-voicing football and a baseball
game. What advantage would there be in rewriting Any Night Football
and World Series Baseball since there is already two very accessible
and good
I suppose you could say one person's head-ache is another person's idea
of fun? but I agree rewriting them that is the games would let lots more
folks play them. not everybody wants to set up a talking real ms-dos
virtual machine after all, do they?
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first, carl nipla's ANF game has lots more plays than jim's game. and
the world series baseball by harry hollingsworth lets you easily make
your own teams and has more options than jim's game. at the same time
jim's games are fun because of their sounds. ANF and jim's games are
both fun in
Hi Thomas,
I have the rights to both Any Night Football and World Series Baseball.
Carl Mickla wrote the football game in C plus plus for DOS and I got all his
source codes, Harry Hollingsworth wrote the baseball game in GW basic, but
he passed away in 2002.
I also have the source code to it.
I prefer being a player over being a manager. Skill and timing are needed
to succeed. Managerial skills are different than athletic ones, and I
prefer being part of the action than it's dictator.
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hi phil,
a long time ago my friend jason came to my house and let me copy his dos
games since I liked them. if you want some money for them I can pay you
in february. and then I lost his copies over the years. then a while
back he called me saying he found his original coppies on floppy disk.
hi jacob,
What code did you write to get klatt4? on line5 I just see:
_espeak.setVoiceByLanguage(en-us)
I don't see a voice variable.
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Changed the code of line 6, and then compiled it using pyInstaller module's
script have here since it's one of the multiple compiling tools I try out
when working in python itself.
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how did you compile it to use klatt4 variant?
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On 1/7/2015 2:44 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
I just copied espeak-data and espeak.dll over from current
NVDA\synthDrivers path, and still works, and
Hi Josh,
Not necessarily. If you modify the default.jss file in Jaws it works
pretty good with Werdperfect 5.1 and Megadots. The thing is older
versions of Jaws had Dos support commented out, and if someone removes
the comments, recompiles the scripts, etc one can go pretty far with
those older
because my computer is windows7 64bit.
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On 1/7/2015 10:01 AM, Thomas Ward wrote:
Hi Josh,
Not necessarily. If you modify the default.jss file in Jaws it works
pretty good with Werdperfect 5.1
Hi Shaun,
Well, first of all Sigwin is not Linux. It is basically nothing more
than the Bash shell,a few compilers, and other tools ported to
Windows. Its not at all the same thing as running a full blown Linux
OS so right there is your first problem with your idea.
Hypothetically speaking,
Hi Shaun,
That wouldn't work. All the NVDA Controller Client does is allows a
program to speak text or display text via braille using NVDA. In
short, it is basically just another synthesizer. If a person needs
screen review commands as in games and other programs in Dosbox they
still would not
the latest test espeak from espeak.sf.net/test/latest.html and if you
use it with klatt4 it sounds very similar to keynote gold. when you
install it just enter in one of the language boxes
en-us+klatt4
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Hi Josh,
Same here. The Keynote Gold was unique. Although, the voice was fairly
robotic I really liked it, and would love to have one to play with.
Cheers!
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I really miss the keynote gold.
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because I want to use megadots and wordperfect. I want to show off dos
asap screen reader, flipper, and others. I want the real dos experience
down to the letter.
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On 1/7/2015 9:54 AM, Thomas
like i said. tell espeak test version to use a klatt variant and you
will basically have your keynote gold back. also get espeak source
modify intonation and recompile using espeakedit and you can come even
closer.
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On 1/7/2015 9:42 AM, Thomas Ward wrote:
Hi Josh,
No. Although, Dosemu is an
hey jacob what is that line that changes espeak variants again?
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On 1/4/2015 5:45 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Shaun, see my other reply to Thomas - smile - was talking about
launching the VMWare
In the main application/icon grouping window of windows 3.1, there's an icon
called MS Dos prompt, so, yes, that's it - same effect as how, on windows 7,
I often bring up run dialogue, and type in cmd.exe...smile
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Hi Josh,
I realize that. I was speaking of running XP in a virtual machine not natively.
Cheers!
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because my computer is windows7 64bit.
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Hi Josh,
I feel pretty confident if you wanted to you could get one to work in
XP. This concept that there is no real Dos is not true. As a matter
of fact Windows XP has a command line, similar to Dos, but it is
buried under the graphical interface and booting directly into the
command line is
still would xp support a native dos screen reader? because xp does not
have real dos in it.
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On 1/7/2015 11:20 AM, Thomas Ward wrote:
Hi Josh,
I realize that. I was speaking of running XP in a
I just copied espeak-data and espeak.dll over from current NVDA\synthDrivers
path, and still works, and compiled it with instruction to use klatt4
variant?
Have updated zip file on my dropbox, but, you can, in meantime also just try
replacing espeak-data and espeak.dll in the unzipped folder.
as far as i know dos screen readers don't work in a windows xp command
prompt because there is no real dos there.
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On 1/7/2015 10:01 AM, Thomas Ward wrote:
Hi Josh,
Not necessarily. If you
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