Re: [Audyssey] Buy great gaming PCs?
Hi. Yeah pricy has it pegged, I bought an alienware laptop, 2.2ghz core2duo processor and 2gb ram, had them put windows xp on it. over 2000 dollars. It's fast and stuff but I don't like the keyboard and it certainly isn't optimal for gaming, missing the right control key, the delete key is where the right control should be, the top right hand is num lock, and they got the ctrl and fn keys backwards, fn is on the very bottom left, and ctrl is just to the right of that, I think ctrl should be on the outside. Course, a desktop wouldn't matter right? Here's a fact though, audiogaming doesn't take as much computer as videogaming does I believe. I'm running audio games fine and dandy, and I like it better too, on a soney Vaio here, it's a 1.66ghz core2duo, it has 2gb of ram, and it's running vista business. It sells for about 1800 dollars. As for a computer that'll run audio games good. My guess is almost anything you can buy today. Dual core processor based pcs are selling dust cheep they say because the cpu manufacturers want everyone to switch to their quad cores. anything you find on the shelf that runs fast and is in your price range and stuff will do I reckon. Maybe one thing to look out for is that it has a good offboard sound card, one that's actually a dedicated expansion card rather than one built into the motherboard. Creative makes excellent sound cards and I'm told turtle beach does too. I'm satisfied with Realtech too but I believe they're lesser in quality than creatives. To know whether you're using an offboard or onboard sound card, check out the back of the pc, is the soundcard jacks at the bottom of the tower placed in one of those long horizontal rectangular indentions? or are there like 3 or 6 jacks on the large rectangular part back there where all the other ports are, UUSB, PS2 for mouse and keyboard, etc. Unfortunately, I have found the best way to get a new computer is to just get one you fall in love with and that has good specks and try it, if it doesn't satisfy, take it back within the return period. - Original Message - From: Casey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 1:16 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Buy great gaming PCs? Hey I'm just wondering if anyone has some good web sites to by fantastic gaming pcs. Good sound cards, speakers etc. I hear that Alienware is great, but extremely pricy! Any thoughts? Casey --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Game Cheating Software Question....
Hmm that would be useful when I actually needed to format my comp, install monti and cheat. Rofl. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Game Cheating Software Question Hi Ryan, Well, protecting your games from cheating is almost as hard is protecting from piracy. I've been doing some experimentation along the same lines with Montezuma's Return and the problem is that the cheating software I have encountered actually rewrites the values stored at a given memory address in real time. The only way to crack down on this some is try and build in a feature that constantly compares the values in memory with a specified minimum and maximum value range for a specific level. For example, let us assume there is a maximum of 20 choppers on such and such a level. Each is worth 100 points. So you know the maximum score a player can get for that level is 2000 points. You will need to constantly check that the player's score is equal to or less than the 2000 points for that level. If the game sees that there is 3 points and there has only been 10 choppers shot down you know someone is hankying with the values, and you can take counter measures. Hmm... wonder what is a good counter measure for a cheater. Have a notice that you were caught cheating, and now your computer hard drive is being reformatted. Sorry, about any lost data, but life is tough sometimes. See you again when you get your software reinstalled. Muhahahahahaha! Ryan Smith wrote: Hi, Not that I am into game cheating much, or at all really, I was wondering if someone could write a list of popular game cheating software that the ag-community uses? It will be for SDM as a way to prevent users in Unlimited Mode from posting scores, although I am aware of tricks, I will do my best to ensure no cheating software will be used when posting at all, but more so in Unlimited Mode. Thank You. -Ryan Smith of Rsg --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] sounds totally unnecessary
Hi. How about when someone uses their key they have to register that computer with you if the hardware id is different than previous authorizations. This says that I can register on this laptop. I have to register on the website too, now you can look and see that my user name has one comp registered. next, I authorize it on my desktop. I must be on the internet again, after I supply my user name and my password, I'm connected to the website again and since the registration notices my hardware id is different than what it is up on the website, I'm registered again. This way, maybe if you can grab the right information you can do something about piracy because in order to work it you'd have to have a load of registrations for one user names, could limit it to like 4 or 5 per person too, and if they run out then they've got to come asking you to redo their counts. It won't work if they're not on the internet. Everyone has internet now adays, if not, they've got to call you so you can register for them and give them this really wicked long string they've got to type in some obscure field and register it that way, never happen since they're sure to have internet somewhere? They downloaded the game somehow right? the problem is you can crack jaws which is similar to that, so guess that won't help a whole lot, but maybe it won't be a easy. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] sounds totally unnecessary I know a lot of people have really had problems with hardware Ids. I'm looking at the possibility of goign with a user name based key which yes. I know opens up the possibility for sharing keys, but I think it'll make the end user happy and cut down on the amount of hey liam can you generate a new unlock code emails. - Original Message - From: Demetry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 12:28 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] sounds totally unnecessary Hi, I know this problem. On last December I bought a new hard drive disc an before two days ago this disc was crashed unfortunately. Since yesterday I have a new (second) disc. I really dislike the hardware IDs of the games too. Because now, I need to recontact the L-Works and other companies where I can get a new product key for the game... But, I understanding the game developer, because they want to be sure who use the registered game. Software Piracy is not a cavalier offence... BTW: I would like to know, how will create such as an hardware ID? Demetry --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] I just love sound puzzle! Anyone else?
Sound puzzle rocks something serious. Those sounds you hear when you move your arrow keys around and you try to put all the sounds in the right places, they sound s cool. It's oddly relaxing to give that game a go, like during lunch at school, pull out the laptop and have a game of sound puzzle. I've beaten it like 5 times by now, I think my highest score was 18000 something. *pats self on the back proudly* Aaron T. Spears (valiant) EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and others MSNMessenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: computeruser89 and skype: aarontech.valiant Beta Testing System Information: soney Vaio VGN250n . Intel core 2 duo 1.66ghz . 2,048 mb ddr2 SDRAM (667 mhz) . Intel graphics . Realtech audio Toshiba 160gb 5,400 rpm hdd (Microsoft Windows Vista business) --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Atari games
Hi. I've never been able to do that exactly but this can happen in gtc only the other way around. You blow them up, but they just lobbed a standard shell and they blow up, then it hits you right on and you're history too. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Atari games Hi, Well, I had quite a huge number of Atari 2600 and 7800 Atari games and I had quite a few favorites myself. My all time favorite was probably Galaxian although I really liked Asteroids, Space Invaders, Centipede, Zaxxon, and Time Pilot as well. I can't tell you how many times I played a game like Space Invaders just to hear the player die though. I liked the sort of fart sound it made when the invader's bomb hit your ship. Call it a sick sense of humor, but some of those games were funny like that. I use to play a game called Berserk, because every time you ran into a wall it shocked or electrocuted the player. It was sort of funny watching the little robot get zapped every time it hit a wall, and so I kept on doing it again and again. In the game UFO if your UFO got shot down you could use the Atari game controller to sometimes position the UFO over the tank that shot you and when it landed on the enemy tank there would be a big explosion. Yeah, you died, but you took out the little creep that killed you in the process. Lol! Another funny thing about those games is the little bug, glitch, etc where an enemy shot you. As you were dying you might be able to squeeze off one more shot blowing up or vaperising the enemy who killed you. Sometimes you were shooting as you got shot, you would die, and then the enemy would go boom as he got hit. How is that for justice? Raul A. Gallegos wrote: My favorite Atari games were PacMan, Pitfall, Battle Zone which was like GTC is now, Space Invaders, Asteroids, Pole Position, Frogger, Donkey Kong, Donkey Kong Jr, and Indiana Jones. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] OTessey list
Hi. I can't subscribe, I can't get the captia to play, and once a long time ago I did managed to get google to say the captia but couldn't understand it. It won't let me log in. oh gosh I'm amazingly frustrated now. - Original Message - From: Cara Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 1:05 PM Subject: [Audyssey] OTessey list Hey All, I'm hoping this note is alright with the mods, in light of the recent OT threads... This will be my last one on this particular topic... I've created a new list upon ARi's suggestion and Dark's naming idea. the new list is called OTessey and is located at: http://groups.google.com/group/otessey Please do feel free to join if you'd like. It's an open forum and will be *very* lightly moderated... Have an awesome day!... Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] stfc question
Hi. A friend wants to know if it's possible to change the stats on ships in STFC. Wants to add more shields and torpedoes and stuff. Cheers: Aaron T. Spears (valiant) EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and others MSNMessenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: computeruser89 and skype: aarontech.valiant Beta Testing System Information: soney Vaio VGN250n . Intel core 2 duo 1.66ghz . 2,048 mb ddr2 SDRAM (667 mhz) . Intel graphics . Realtech audio Toshiba 160gb 5,400 rpm hdd (Microsoft Windows Vista business) --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] hand held fishing games
Hi. I used to play with one which worked pretty neat, it even had enough sounds, it'd say something like 'get it!' when a fish was ready to get a hook jerked, and oh no! when you lost him, etc. I tried to buy one like that but I kept getting stuff that was too visual. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: audyssey gamers group Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 11:40 PM Subject: [Audyssey] hand held fishing games Has anyone had success with any of the handheld games of fishing that are sort of like a vibrating fishing rod? I have one called Lunker Deep Sea that I haven't been able to use as of yet. I was able to catch fish with one several years back that was called lunker bass, but this one must be more visual than that one was, and it doesn't have as good of a feel to it when a fish nibbles. --- If you don't stand behind our troops, please, feel free ... to stand in front of them! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] top speed tracks
Hi. Yeah, they got themselves a forum entry on audiogames.net about new tOP sPEED version, quite a few opinions on there. Wonder what they're playing at, they used to have instructions on making tracks, not any more I guess, heh. - Original Message - From: Cory [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] top speed tracks you know it's really to bad. The instructions on how to make cars and tracks are not on the site. The best thing you can do is look at one and use it to help you make your own. Later, Cory PS, does anyone know if they're going to make a new version of ts? - Original Message - From: djc [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] top speed tracks On my ftp I have 2 track makers. One is a random track maker and the other one is the standard track maker. To get to my ftp do the following: ftp site: djc.my-net-space.net username: PlayingInTheDark Note each word is capitalized. password: racing port: 21 No passive mode. The track makers are in the odds and ends area. *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 1/29/2008 at 3:25 PM Valiant \(on laptop\) wrote: Hi. It's possible to create your own race tracks for topspeed. Look around on the topspeed's website and see if you can figure out how from there, if not, I'll write it up but I'd like to not have to grins. - Original Message - From: josh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 11:08 PM Subject: [Audyssey] top speed tracks Hi, Is it possible to create your own race tracks for the top speed game? If so, how is this done or how do you do it? Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] djc's Jukebox: http://paulmerrell.net:9212 (96K) http://paulmerrell.net:9660 (96K) http://ultrastreams.us:9660 (128K) Saturday Evenings 9 to midnight Eastern. My Journal http://livejournal.com/users/djc1 email Or Msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I C Q Number Is: 4781694 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] windows monopoly.
Hi. Jim Kitchen has one in the SAPI games. hth. - Original Message - From: Lisa hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 3:25 PM Subject: [Audyssey] windows monopoly. Hi all, is their a windows version of monopoly? and if so where can I get it from? thanks. Lisa Hayes skype name, lisa12257 join my chat list subscribe at [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Views On Games was Out of the games dimension
oh deer, who would take their cat and throw it into the swimming pool to hear it screech? I swear by shades of doom and them violence games where you kill kill murder and all that, but it sticks to games, never got anywhere near my head like folks claim it could. - Original Message - From: Jim Kitchen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Thomas Ward Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 6:26 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Views On Games was Out of the games dimension Hi Thomas, That's cool that you wrote and played your own text card and board games. As you said for programming practice and so that you could play the games. That really was why I wrote them as well. I mean because I wanted to play them and at that time there were not any games like that that were accessible. It was like back in like 1990 that I first got on line and got into the FidoNet Email lists such as Blink Talk and Blind Talk. That and searching the BBSs was how I found that there was a need to share the games that I was producing for my own playability. It sure was nice to be able to share the games and find out that others appreciated them. You said What I was trying to point out was that for me I was extremely disappointed that back in 99 or so when I first joined this comunity most of the discussion centered around card games, board games, and Ok, it just sounded to me like you were saying that games like that were useless and people shouldn't even waste time making them because no one would even want to play them. Yeah, you got on line about the time that the first David Greenwood games for windows were coming out. We sure have come along way since the days of the dos games where we didn't have a sound file playing engine like DirectX. I thought that it was very exciting when David openly here asked for input and worked on creating the first accessible live action first person shooter game. It then gave me the idea that I could try to do the same with the first accessible live action auto racing game. I can still play these live action games for hours like I used to play video games. Yeah, it may very well be an age difference thing as I am still an anti war, anti violence, long hair, peace loving hippie. Or it may be a personality difference thing. I just have never gotten into any of the D and D or other role play type of games. And of course I would never ever take my pet cat and throw it into a swimming pool just to hear it scream. BFN Jim Fighting for peace is like screaming for quiet. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Views On Games was Out of the games dimension
I LLOve the braille note keynote gold, I opt to use the keynote gold synth rather than the eloquence when I screw with the fancy m powers these days. - Original Message - From: Bryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 7:57 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Views On Games was Out of the games dimension I don't know, I just hated the BNS voice. Maybe it's because the Echo was the first synthe I ever heard, so I've got a soft spot for it. But the BNS' voice just irritated the heck out of me. Come to think of it so does the Keynote voice, wich is one reason I don't use the Braille Note. I particularly hated it when playing some of the games you could get for the BNS. I remember there was a Chess game and a Blackjack game, but I hated them because of the voice. Granted it was sort of cool at first but after a while it just got on my nerves. Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Views On Games was Out of the games dimension Hi Bryan, Are you kidding? I hated the Echo's voice. I would take Braille N Speak voice over Echo any day. Though, my opinion might be based on the fact I spent a lot of time after going blind using a Braille N Speak. It was like a part of me all through school and college. You see, when I first started losing my vision the teachers first put me on the braille writer. I expressed almost from the beginning I wanted to use a computer instead of this clunky, metal, old contraption. They of course told me I needed to use it to learn braille and become a braille user. Yada, yada, yada. Well, finally I managed to get my way and the school provided me with a new device called a braille and Speak from Blazie Engineering. I used the school's for a while, and got my local Lion's club to see how wonderful a device it was so they baught me one for school and hopefully college. After I got my own BNS it went everywhere with me. On the bus, to school, to the store, on vacations, you name it. It was almost like borg implanted to my person, and I didn't give it up until I managed to get a laptop with JFW and Eloquence on it around 1998 or so. Bryan wrote: The Echo was also my first synthe Then came JFD with a Braille 'N Speak providing speech. The BNS was probably even worse than the Echo in terms of speech quality. Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. - Original Message - --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year
don't forget best mud! grins - Original Message - From: Dark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 6:55 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year Hi tom. well I certainly like the idea of having game awards. Making award catagories though might be an interesting project, sinse there are so few games of each type. for example how many sports games have there been this year besides beach volleyball/funny bowling from Vip gameszone? also, comparing certain games in the same catagory seems slightly odd to me. for instance in the previous competition boppit ultimate was up against Rail racer, but the aimes of the two games seem to me to be totally different, though neither less valid. boppit ultimate is a short play rack up score game, while rail racer has many different tracks, the track edditer, online play and player statistics and money, and is thus an incredibly long game. I wonder if therefore we should have some separate catagories for awards, such as Best quick game best long game Best online one on one game And for Sryth etc Best internet brouser game Just to insure that it's a fair contest and that the results are meaningful. appologies if this is a stupid idea, just I thought I had when comparing the various different games I have and the reasons why i might choose to play them at various points. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start
Hello. I just remembered, but SSE setup can at least look to see if dot net is installed, but dunno about direct x. SSE is free and acts similar to inno setup, f y i. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start Hi Kuvvosh, Well, as I stated in my last message to do what you are asking requires that I obtain Microsoft Setup Installer which can do that and more. However, you probably don't realise to get Microsoft Setup Installer I must buy Visual Studio Pro 2008 which costs around $700 USD./ I no longer have $700 to buy it, and I won't buy it for that price. InnoSetup, which is free, works well enough as long as end users remember to install my games in the proper order. As it happens once I get things moved to Java DirectX and .NET won't be a major issue any more anyway. I also had a real need for a set of new laptops. My wife's laptop was an old laptop running Windows 98, and it really neded updated to something new. My old laptop was beginning to have some technical issues like over heating, rebooting for no reason, and half the time the cd drive wouldn't read disks. In other words I think it was about shot. Not to mention I baught it used, and it wasn't exactly in great condition when I got it. So my wife and I agreed we should take some of the earnings from Montezuma's Return to invest in a set of new laptops and Office 2007. Kuvvosh wrote: Well, how about implement it where it looks to see if the required files are there, and if not, ask if you would like to download the required files and it'll pull them off the net for you and install them in the correct order? Kuvvosh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] muds for beginners?
Hi. It's accessible all right. I've even gotten it to run with sapi5 well enough to mud, but it's abit tricky unless you're using something slick and fast like ESpeak. again, could you contact me with text? Setting up monkey term is a bit complicated these days, spetially since I have a page explaining how to do it, then I turned around and made new scripts and didn't bother to update the page to reflect the difference in installation. - Original Message - From: ari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 12:17 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] muds for beginners? Has anyone got a copy of monkeyterm for me, or knows where I can get the file, because every site I've tried the links to download don't work and the publisher has abandoned it. Is MonkeyTerm accessible with JAWS 8? I looked at the Z mud site, but it seems that I'd have to buy it, so no chance. One question that I still want to know is when I get a client, are there any muds that aren't fantasy? Thanks Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] reused code - Re: Accessible Game releases, 2007
me too, took me a while to notice it - Original Message - From: Yohandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] reused code - Re: Accessible Game releases, 2007 Lol! This happens to me too so don't beat your self over it *grin* - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] reused code - Re: Accessible Game releases, 2007 Hi Yohandy, Ok, I really feel stupid. Lol! I just found said check box on my new laptop and turned the Welcome Center off, but when I installed Vista on my old laptop I searched all over for a check box and couldn't find one so I disabled it through the registry. I wonder how I missed it before. I must have had a blond moment or something, and I am not blond. Yohandy wrote: actually there's a way to turn it off, at least when I got my computer there was. it's a checkbox which I of course checked immediately. lol --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] muds for beginners?
Hi. alter aeon http://dentinmud.org dentinmud.org port 3010 - Original Message - From: Michael Maslo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] muds for beginners? Hi all: Speaking of mud's does anyone have any ideas for a good mud for a beginner? I have been playing Miriani but was looking for another one which was easy to understand and have a concept on how to play that particular mud. Does anyone have any ideas for a easy to understand mud game? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 10:09 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] muds for beginners? Hi, Quote I've also heard that I need a thing called a mud client, what is this, and from where do I get it? End quote A mud client is a program designed especially for playing online muds. Some of the popular mud clients are ZMud, MonkeyTerm, and MushClient. Hth. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] top speed tracks
Hi. It's possible to create your own race tracks for topspeed. Look around on the topspeed's website and see if you can figure out how from there, if not, I'll write it up but I'd like to not have to grins. - Original Message - From: josh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 11:08 PM Subject: [Audyssey] top speed tracks Hi, Is it possible to create your own race tracks for the top speed game? If so, how is this done or how do you do it? Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Sound RTS and Python version?
Hi. As far as i can tell, pygame don't have 2.5 support - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 11:47 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Sound RTS and Python version? Hi Jean'Luc and all, I have some questions about Sound RTS and the correct Python version. The reason I am asking is I want to install Sound RTS Beta 9 on my Linux computer, but the only version pre-installed is Python 2.5, and when I attempted to uninstall Python 2.5 to install Python 2.4.4 I got the warning that several packages depends on Python 2.5 being present. As a result I have no real desire to screw something up by downgrading to an older release of Python for just one program. I have considered the possability of installing Python 2.4.4 side by side with Python 2.5, but I have never done that before and am worried that might effect something if the wrong Python version is set as the default. For example, if I made Python 2.4.4 the default all the apps and services I have installed that depend on 2.5 would obviously crash, and I can't afford that since my Linux system is rock solid and stable. This might have been asked before on list, I can't remember, but is there some compelling reason why you can't upgrade to Python 2.5? It seams to me that updating to Python 2.5 would be the reasonable thing to do since it now ships as a core part of most Linux operating systems and allot of Python apps are migrating from Python 2.4.x to Python 2.5. Anyway, can you give some advice how to get Sound RTS setup on my Linux system? Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] voting on game of the year
Have I got this figured out right? with categories, you're talking about something like this? simulation games, e.g. GTC, topspeed realtime simulation games rts games, e.g. sound RTS puzzle games, e.g. sound puzzle, Sudoku board games, e.g. Jim's monopoly, or life, or latter side scroller games, e.g. Liam, super Liam, monti, trupinum, dark destroyer, omgz speaking of dark destroyer I just have have have have to install that again, ug I super bad wanna play it again ack wish I hadn't thought of it cackles. I'm fuzzy and hazey about what we want, more info? - Original Message - From: Che [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 4:38 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] voting on game of the year Hi Dark, Well, we can do any setup for the voting we want, which is why we need feedback from the members here as to what they want. I think categories should have nominated entrants myself, so we don't have to include every single game made last year. If people don't think enough of a game to nominate it for various categories, then there isn't much point in including it in the voting it seems to me. Perhaps a month would be enough time for nominations to be collected for various categories, then a couple weeks for voting, then the results could be posted on list, on the web page and in Rons mag. Any thoughts out there? - Original Message - From: Dark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] voting on game of the year Hi Che. Certainly I like the idea of voting, especially if we can include all appropriate games, publicize things properly and get a result that actually is meaningful. As to whether the vote is run from your site using your scripts or somewhere else though, - to be honest whatever is easiest for Tom, raul, ron and anyone else involved would be fine with me, sinse afterall it's them who are organizing the mechanics of the thing. Your scripts would (judging from the voting I've seen for the various rr tracks), certainly do the job I think, but the decision isn't really up to me, and I certainly don't have the technical know how for it anyway. Appologies for lack of anything constructive here. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Che [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 7:00 PM Subject: [Audyssey] voting on game of the year As I mentioned in my previous post, the scripts aren't easily set up and are licensed to my server as well as they are a commercial product. As I stated before, they are ready to go, all I have to do is set up the voting, no need for you guys to worry with the programming or installation of scripts, we can just run the voting from the blindAdrenaline site and save everyone a lot of time and trouble. I've had various votes for things on the site and it all works fine. Let me know what ya think folks . So far not many people have shown much interest in voting anyway, so it may be a moot point. Or maybe people are just being shy... - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year Hi Che, Quote I replied to you a day or two ago saying we could use the voting scripts on blind adrenaline for the voting, no need for you guys to go through the trouble of programming anything, plus the scripts are built to minimize multiple votes from the same person. If you replied to the offer, I missed it. End quote Yes, Raul and I are interested in your scripts. If you could zip them up and send them to Raul or I we would appreciate it. I am running behind on email, and have several replies I need to get out today including Monte orders that came in this weekend. Just send them to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I will take care of them. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding
Re: [Audyssey] Mac Mud clients
Hi. ZMud supposedly has some accessibility issues, but it can quite likely be done as a trigger to use the API for the screen reader, force it to speak - Original Message - From: Jeremy Gilley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mac Mud clients speaking of mud clients, does anyone use ZMUD? - Original Message - From: Cara Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 6:06 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Mac Mud clients Hey All, I know there are at least three other Mac users here, so am wondering about the most accessible / friendly mud client that you've used?... I.E. I'd really like one that automagically reads the incoming text if I can get one. -Shy of that, I'd like one that's pretty much the easiest one you've found. I'm not a huge gamer, so really don't want a lot of fuss, I just want to check out a couple of quick things, so am really looking for the least lead time / effort. Just want to hop on and off without a lot of extraneous key strokes / navigation and such... I've found mention of Nuntius and MudWalker, and out of those, MudWalker supposedly doesn't speak incoming text without review. So are there others?... Thanks so much for your time and catch y'all on the flip! Have an awesome rest of your weekend!... Rock! Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] jaws and self voicing games
Hmm. for me sleeping never failed yet, interesting. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jaws and self voicing games I always, without question, unload JAWS, because it sometimes works by putting JAWS to sleep, but not always. Unloading it always works, so I make sure to get consistent results by unloading it. --- If you don't stand behind our troops, please, feel free ... to stand in front of them! - Original Message - From: nicol [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 9:39 AM Subject: [Audyssey] jaws and self voicing games I find it better to put jaws in sleep mode while playing self voicing games by changing the setting in the configuration manager. Then I don't have to reload jaws each time I'm finished with a game. Does this work for everybody or is there folks who prefer unloading jaws. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] GMA Games
Hi. GMAGames all seam to run on vista, real nice without UAC, with UAC enabled, run them with administrator or by putting the installation into the user folder so they worm around the security issues. - Original Message - From: Jeremy Gilley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 7:39 PM Subject: [Audyssey] GMA Games Does anyone hear from the programmer from GMA Games? I have not seen anyone speak of there games, and I was just curious if any of them are VISTA ready. I used to play them when i had windows M,E, but I have noticed that they have had the same games out for a while now with no news if they are working on something new or not. Just wondering. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] top speed game cars
There's some at http://aarontech.randylaptop.com/games/sims/topspeed if that link doesn't work, just hit up http://aarontech.randylaptop.com and browse the site by clicking games from the navigation frame, and after that, to to topspeed aarontech's topspeed dedicated page, that's a link that'll be in the main frame. I made most of those cars myself, some I had help with and at least 1 I didn't have anything to do with. - Original Message - From: josh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 11:01 PM Subject: [Audyssey] top speed game cars Hi, Where can I get the extra top speed game cars at, and what version of top speed do they work with? And how do I install them? Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] top speed car making
Hi. It's possible to make your own cars for the topspeed game. As for how, look around on the website for topspeed and see if it tells you how, if not, I'll spend a bit writing it up but I'd like to not have to grins. - Original Message - From: josh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 11:05 PM Subject: [Audyssey] top speed car making Hi, Is it possible to make your own cars for the top speed game? if so, how is this done? If not, can a program be created that will allow you to make your own top speed cars? Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] We Can Play
Hi. I've heard peeps say bad stuff about freelists.org, but I swear by it myself, like how the messages sent over it are nice and simple (no adds and crap) - Original Message - From: Liam Erven [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 1:20 PM Subject: [Audyssey] We Can Play Hi. I posted earlier this week about the we can play site at www.wecanplay.info. For those who missed it, it's a wiki which allows people to share info on mainstream games that blind people are playing. I'm looking at the best way to get a community together. IF anyone has any suggestions on what would be a decent mailing list provider, let me know. Also, don't forget to check out the site and contribute. I've posted up info on battle arena toshinden 3, and I'll be working all day to try and add more information. Liam --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Sound RTS and Python version?
Hello there. You're slightly off, technoshock is written in python. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sound RTS and Python version? Hi Claudio, Quote Have you created sound rts with python? End Quote I am not Jean'Luc, but yes Sound RTS is written with Python 2.4 and pygame. It is to my knolege the only accessible game written in Python. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] muds for beginners?
Siecel Mahotsukai - Original Message - From: Tj [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] muds for beginners? Hi, If you're having issues with miriani, I can help you there. By the wqy, just out've curiosity, who is everyone here on Miriani? Tj - Original Message - From: Orin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] muds for beginners? It's kind of hard to choose. Instead of me attempting to pick one out for you, go to http://www.mudconnect.com and look through it's database. On Jan 27, 2008, at 12:12 PM, Michael Maslo wrote: Hi all: Speaking of mud's does anyone have any ideas for a good mud for a beginner? I have been playing Miriani but was looking for another one which was easy to understand and have a concept on how to play that particular mud. Does anyone have any ideas for a easy to understand mud game? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:gamers- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 10:09 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] muds for beginners? Hi, Quote I've also heard that I need a thing called a mud client, what is this, and from where do I get it? End quote A mud client is a program designed especially for playing online muds. Some of the popular mud clients are ZMud, MonkeyTerm, and MushClient. Hth. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year
Hi. I think it sounds swt rock on - Original Message - From: Che [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year Hi Phil, I actually asked JJ about that because I definately thought Sarah should have been on that list, but he said it was released in 2006, I'm not sure where he got his info. I myself did not even know of the awards until today, so I am not sure who nominated RR for it, he said several folks nominated it, but didn't tell me who. That is really too bad, because unless I am mistaken Sarah didn't actually get released until 2007, right? Thanks for the congrats man. What do you think of the idea of the list having a yearly awards for various game categories? - Original Message - From: Phil Vlasak [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 4:27 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year Hi Che, Congratulations on developing the best game in 2007! Here is the results and the other nominees: 6. Best Accessible Game. This is for the best accessible game for any operating system. It must have been released in 2007. Winner: Blind Adrenaline Simulations Rail Racer Other Nominees: Lighttech Interactive Bop It Ultimate, L-Works Duck Hunt, KitchenSinc Games Homer on a Harley I guess I'll cry myself to sleep knowing that no one voted for my game. Phil - Original Message - From: Che [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 5:07 PM Subject: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year Hi all, I recieved this pleasantly surprising message from J Squared today, thought you all would be interested. It brings up the possibility of the list voting for various awards for accessible games as well, any thoughts? FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE WINNERS ANNOUNCED IN FIRST EVER BLINDBARGAINS.COM ACCESS AWARDS HUMANWARE, SENDERO AMONG TOP RECIPIENTS Kalamazoo, Mi, January 23, 2008 - After weeks of nominations and hundreds of votes, BlindBargains.com has announced the winners of the first ever Blind Bargains Access Awards. The accolades are being handed out to companies and individuals in ten categories and represent the best in accessible hardware, software, and design. Taking top honors was Humanware's Victor Reader Stream, winning both the Best New Product or Innovation and Best Hardware Product. The audio book player was recognized by many as a breakthrough product and also propelled Humanware to the honor of best Company of 2007. The stream is the first commercially-available device to play the new digital book format provided by the National Library Service. Sendero Group also has attracted a following, winning in the Best Software category for its popular Sendero GPS product. The latest version of the package includes faster route calculations and descriptive audio points of interest. One of the instrumental figures behind Sendero's success, Charles La Pierre, was also recognized as 2007' Person of the Year. We were thrilled at the level of participation and interest our users showed in this contest, commented site owner J.J. Meddaugh. Well over 100 ballots were processed during the contest, which included both write-in nomination and voting rounds. Freedom Scientific's JAWS for Windows continues to be the screen access product of choice according to the site's users while Blind Adrenaline Simulations' Rail Racer took the honor for Best Accessible Game in this year's tightest race. The awards also recognized the contributions by webmasters, bloggers, and online retailers to the blind community. Dean Martineau's popular Top Tech Tidbits Repository was voted as Best Blindness-related Website while APH's Fred's Head Companion took the honor for Best Blindness-related Blog. Both resources include a wide variety of knowledge, information, and links to relevant and interesting information. Finally, Independent Living Aids was recognized as the Best Store for Blindness-related Products. The retailer sells hundreds of items from talking watches to playing cards. For a complete list of winners and nominations, visit http://www.blindbargains.com/awardlist07.php BlindBargains.com is a premier online destination featuring news, deals, and articles relevant to the blind and visually impaired. Visitors can find the lowest prices for assistive technology and other useful hardware and software through the site, Email, or RSS. Other site features include user forums, an EBay Auction Gateway, and a merchant search portal. J.J. www.BlindBargains.com Deals, news, and resources for the blind and visually impaired --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You
Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start
cause the installer would be big, the idea of downloading them if the comp doesn't have em is neat though - Original Message - From: Kuvvosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start I noticed on a lot of new programs that if you install them, if you don't meet the requirements it will not install until you do, and some even install the stuff for you before the main program install. Why not just compile the game with the DX and .Net and have them install before the game so that way no one can't say it won't install? Just a Thought. And Yes I know the installer would be bigger, but oh well. Kuvvosh -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 10:58 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] montazoomas return and stfc both won't start Hi Charles, It is a sad fact that a large majority of users buy products and begin using the product without even looking at the supplied owner's manual. It is also a statistical fact those same users that didn't read the owner's manual are amung the first to begin emailing or calling tech support wanting help even though the answer is right there in the manual. I can understand if something is confusing, but a lot of the time it just comes down to end user laziness. Charles Rivard wrote: Dang. Manuals and other documentation sure can solve a lot of simple headaches, can't they? Read them, folks. That's why they're there! --- If you don't stand behind our troops, please, feel free ... to stand in front of them! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] reused code - Re: Accessible Game releases, 2007
Hi. Just so you know, there's a way to turn that off without the registry, cackles gleefully. From the explorer folder view list view of the welcome center, tab round till you get some kind of button saying something about stop displaying welcome center on startup and hit it with both barrels. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] reused code - Re: Accessible Game releases, 2007 Hi Charles, Oh, I see. Yeah, to an outsider the registry might seam pretty complicated and mysterious. However, I've been working with it for about three months and I now have a pretty good grasp of how every thing is organized, and how to manually add, change, and remove keys. It really actually is simpler than a lot of people believe once you get the basic concept of where everything is and how it works. That said, I wouldn't recommend playing around in there if you don't know what you are doing. For example, in Windows Vista there is a very annoying Window that comes up called the Windows Welcome Center. You can not turn it off, because Microsoft doesn't want you to. Instead they would rather have it in the way annoying you as you work. Well, I went into the registry with my new found know-how and I am no longer bothered with the Welcome Center coming up every time I start my computer. It is a dead Windows service. he he he he he. As my friend yogi Bear always says, I'm smarter than the average bear. Charles Rivard wrote: Just the way it is built on sort of a treelike structure. I only mentioned it because of how it is said to be very complex to navigate and make changes if necessary, and the danger of doing it wrong, and for orneriness. --- If you don't stand behind our troops, please, feel free ... to stand in front of them! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] muds for beginners?
Hi. As for mud clients, you've got a few choices. I'd like to talk to you in chat about it, could you hit me up on msn, skype text chat, aim, yahoo? msn is [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim is computeruser89 yahoo is computeruser89y skype is aarontech.valiant - Original Message - From: ari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 4:29 PM Subject: [Audyssey] muds for beginners? Hi all, The library for the blind here in SA got hold of a braille book from the library in the US, called Bots by Andrew Leonard. This book is very interesting, examining computers and Artificial Intellegence, and discussing things such as chat bots, etc. This book talks about an online mud game in the early 90's from the university of Texas, which is text-based, and called Point Moo-t. Does this still exist, and how do I get started with muds. I've often thought of trying a mud, but I don't want fantasy stuff, are there more realistic muds? What's a good, text-only mud for beginners? I've also heard that I need a thing called a mud client, what is this, and from where do I get it? I'm using JAWS 8.0. Thanks Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] top speed2 tracks and cars?
Hi. Sure he does, I seen them not long ago, they'll magically appear again when he uploads his site again, I feel sure. - Original Message - From: josh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 12:55 AM Subject: [Audyssey] top speed2 tracks and cars? Hi, This message is for Damien Sadler. Do you still have tracks and cars on your site that you made for top speed2? Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Views On Games was Out of the games dimension
as for me, I like mell, ray, rich, mike, from ATT, and from loquendo TTS I like Dave but I can't understand him all the same, I understand Kenneth but I don't like him, cackle that's what my brother's name is, heeheeheehee, let's see, I swear by ESpeak, I understand it pretty good and I like the responsiveness, but I don't get fooled about it sounding human but that wasn't the point, I like keynote gold too, easy for me to understand, I also found accent easy to understand, never used an accent, but listened to a couple of recordings and it was amazing for me. there's also dectalk, both the normal one and the one from phonix, I like both but think I prefer the ordinary one, phonix screwed up the inflection for it. I do love that roger voice that's in phonix ISpeak for pocket pc though, he rocks, not the easiest to understand though, just sounds really neat. Then there's neospeech Kate and Paul, they're both super, then there's the real speak voices, all good but I prefer tom and Daniel and lee, tom primarily, he's more responsive than the other ones are. After that, how about akapela voices, Ryan is amazing, not very responsive though. Like Alex from Mac, Ryan breathes, but not very often, but sometimes you can hear him whoosh a bit before he goes to say something. Speaking of Alex, I'm judging by podcasts, but I lve Alex too, and that one voice I talk about from hal that we can't figure out who it is, he's monotonous, but he definitely isn't synthetic, he might be a festival voice or something, but I know there's some biphone voices from orpheus so maybe that's what it is? Then there's eloquences, easiest for me to understand since I been listening to it for like 10 years almost every day, but I want to hear other voices sometimes. Flight? I really really can't get the hang of Kevin, maybe with more effort I could figure out what he's jawing at me. Then of course Braille lite and Braille n speak, sad old synth, I'd say the worse I've heard, makes lots of mistakes with pronunciations where something eloquence doesn't, and it's inflection is sad and the pitches of what it says isn't very good, it worked though, and it was probably the best when it first came out? Then there's triple talk, or is it light talk, what ever the one is that's in the blm40, and the book port, that synth is awesome, sorta hard to understand but it just rocks all the same. It's the one that's in the turbo lite talk 4.1 or what ever the version is. Oh, and say it, cackle say it is hilarious. As for games, well, I reckon Paul, and mell, ray and maybe rich would be good menu readers, but I believe characters and such should be done by peeps. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Views On Games was Out of the games dimension Hi Dark, Yeah, I am rather fond of the Daniel voice myself. It sounds nearly human, and I do a lot of reading and game playing with that voice myself. It also sounds real good with Sound RTS which comes with a pre-recorded version of Daniel with the game. Though, I have noticed the higher quality the voice the less responsive it is. For example I really like the Neospeech voices, Kate and Paul, but they are too slow for my needs. On the other hand Espeak sounds like a robot, but I can really crank it up to super speed and get work done. Dark wrote: speaking of synths, through a rather complicated process (trying out some horribly expensive dolphin ocr and pdf conversion software to help in my Phd), I've acquired realspeak daniel. sinse it has to go through the sapi driver and can't interact directly with orphius the way something like eloquence could, I find it slightly slow to use with hal, but for all my sapi gammes I'm amazed at the amount of difference it makes in the game, especially to something with complex nmbers and a lot of speach like lone wolf, or Jim's trucker games. I was quite happy using Ms mike (and before Jim put the software on his site, ms sam), but now i actually wouldn't fancy going back to it, sinse playing with a fairly human and understandable voice means I can concentrate on what is happening in the game, and not have to imagine that my sub commander or golf caddy is a cyber man. Of course, there are lots of occasions 9as you mention tom working with free tts), where a robotic synth is necessary, which is fine, but I do think that in developing games, particularly games with acted characters or a set atmosphere, the sound of the synth voice should be taken into account as much as possible, especially when it is portraying characters in the game such as copter man, the opponents in X hour etc. Beware the Grue! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update
Re: [Audyssey] jaws and self voicing games
you got a good point - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 11:56 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jaws and self voicing games This was very interesting, but you made one big blunder, I think? You said I could get into various technical details on this, but I won't for your sanity's sake. Do you know one list member who is sane? If so, kick'em off! They don't fit in! (ornery grin) --- If you don't stand behind our troops, please, feel free ... to stand in front of them! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jaws and self voicing games Hi Nicol, Personally I advise all my customers to unload Jaws or Window Eyes when playing games for a variety of reasons. First, games like Montezuma's Return are very system resource intensive. At any given time there is several sounds being played, mixed, and loaded and unloaded in real time which uses quite a bit of processor and memory resources. In addition there are internal clocks, called timers, running which draw upon your processor to perform hundreds of calculations and enemy AI decisions at or near the same time. The last thing you want when playing a game is for another program to be eating into your computers speed and memory resources when all that is going on. Screen readers as a rule tend to be resource intensive applications in themselves. That is why when you load a large program or do a very resource intensive task Jaws or Window Eyes will be silent or unresponsive until the major process finishes. There is not enough CPU output or memory to run both applications at the same time so Jaws or Window Eyes tend to get called only after the app has finished doing whatever it was doing. I could get into various technical details on this, but I won't for your sanity's sake. Second, APIs suchas DirectX were designed from the get-go to basically acquire and control your computers hardware independantly from the Windows event cue. What this means in average human speak is that DirectX actually acquires total control of your sound card, keyboard, joystick, vidio card, etc unless the developer specifically passes flags to let other sound events, mouse events, keyboard events, through to the device. Otherwise other apps can't use the device until DirectX releases hardware control back to the Windows event cue. That is why Window Eyes and especially Jaws can encounter issues running at the same time as a game running DirectX DirectInput. Jaws might recieve an input call from the keyboard to do something, and your game app will recieve the same call to do something else and since both are trying to recieve control from the keyboard both actions are carried out, or it causes the keyboard to symply lock altogether. The only way to avoid this is to unload the screen reader, put it to sleep, or the developer has to add some other special keyboard handling in the game to let the Windows keyboard events through when the game does not have focus on the screen. Although weather or not you unload your screen reader or put it into some sleep mode is your choice I do think for the two reasons above it is more than compelling reasons not to get into the habit of running both at the same time if you can help it. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] monkey turn
Hi. There isn't a keep alive, but on miriani there's an option called mcp keep alive that'll send a message to you every so often if you become idle, type options and choose the option for it - Original Message - From: john snowling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 12:05 PM Subject: [Audyssey] monkey turn Hi all I'm using the mud client monkeytern to play the mrirami mud at toastsoft. This morning the mud client timed out. How do I set the options if there is a keep alive for me to use? From john. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.15/1248 - Release Date: 28/01/2008 21:32 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year
Hi. Something go wrong about using che's script? - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year Hi Shane, Basically, after I wrote the voting form all I would need to do is forward all the form results to one judge who would announce the winners and tabulate them. Though, now that I think about it there is no reason why the php scripts couldn't do the tabulating themselves, but that of course adds added work for me. Shane Davidson wrote: I like this idea. And I'd be happy to be on the panel of judges. Smile. shane --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Views On Games was Out of the games dimension
Hi. sounds good to me, *yyeeewhwhwhwhwhwh! rrhrhrhreee'ee'rhrhrhrwhw! oh wait rofl Yep, I hear ya - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Views On Games was Out of the games dimension Hi Valiant, Jim was making reference to a comment I made a while ago about the time I tossed one of our pet cats into the swimming pool as a joke. However, you must keep in mind I wasn't doing it to be cruel, violant, or do any real harm to the cat. I was doing it as a prank. I was only say 10 years or sso when I did it, and vidio games had nothing to do with it. Valiant (on laptop) wrote: oh deer, who would take their cat and throw it into the swimming pool to hear it screech? I swear by shades of doom and them violence games where you kill kill murder and all that, but it sticks to games, never got anywhere near my head like folks claim it could. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] This is Ridiculous
Hi. make sure you don't get Tyler confused with me, he uses something that includes my name for vt, I'm not Tyler, so don't get us mixed up. but here's some advice, because 1. I like all the audyssey traffic 2. audyssey is my favorite list, and I don't want it to change 3. I don't intend to slow down my posting 4. I don't have a problem with all these messages, maybe you won't either after this. 5. It'll be easier to count how many messages I send if you follow these steppes, you won't have to sift through spam as you count. 6. email client message rules just rock, oh, and one problem consists of whether you're using outlook express or windows mail but S E P message rules: I want to offer some advice for this here list. You can create a message rule in outlook express or windows mail, these instructions match almost exactly for outlook and for windows live mail. A message rule can sort out messages you want to have separated, and put them somewhere else, this way you can mess with those messages at your leisure and get to your important stuff when you want. Also, you can apply these techniques to delete messages all together from me if you want. 1. Press alt+t This puts you in the tools menu 2. Up arrow several times looking for something labeled something similar to message rules and hit enter on it. This is commonly a sub menu, so select mail in the sub menu of message rules and hit enter on that too 3. tab around until you find a button that will allow you to create a new rule, in windows mail this is new... button. hit enter on it 4. You're put in a list view of checkable items. arrow to where the to line contains specific people and hit space to check it. If your screen reader isn't reading state checked or unchecked properly hit space on it anyway, it likely wasn't checked by default. Now press tab to move into the actions to take list view, and arrow to move it to the specified folder, and hit space to check it. Hit tab again, to land in step 3, which is an interesting read only edit field. 5. Hit your arrow keys until you find where the to line contains specific words and hit space on it. If that didn't work, mine dinged at me, hit enter on it, that ought to do the trick. This puts you in an edit field that's labeled something like type specific words or a phrase, then click add. Type Gamers@audyssey.org without the quotes into this field, tab to add and hit space, now tab to ok button and hit space one more time. You end up back in that nifty little read only edit field, 6. arrow in it again till you find move it to the specified folder. Hit enter there. You wind up in a folder tree view, move round till you're sitting on inbox, press tab until you land on new folder button, hit space on that. 7. type something like Audyssey, hit enter 8. arrow to newly created audyssey, hit enter. 9. Verify you've got something like this quoting: Apply this rule after the message arrives Where the To line contains 'gamers@audyssey.org' Move it to the audyssey folder unquote. 10. Now, tab once, this is the name of your new message rule, type something like filter audyssey and hit tab. 11. You wind up on the ok button, hit space there. 12. You're in a dialogue that has a list of message rules, and buttons with which you can do things to those rules. Shift+tab or tab till you find the list of rules, arrow to Filter Audyssey. Now tab to apply now... button and hit space. Press tab to land on select all button, and hit space there, now shift+tab repeatedly till you end up on apply now button and hit space on it. 13. you get a pause as folders are moved about, then you get an ok button confirming you've finished applying the rule. Hit space on that ok button, then tab to the close button and hit space on it. 14. Finally, tab to the ok button and hit space on that too. 15. Back in list of messages, hit shift+tab, you'll probably get inbox, down arrow once, after making sure inbox is expanded, you'll probably find Audyssey somewhere abouts, when you do find it, tab back into the message list, and your audyssey messages should all be in there. 16. Wait, there's no 16. Advice, there's a podcast about message rules, it's way down the page on http://blindcooltech.com, it might be helpful. - Original Message - From: Tj [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] This is Ridiculous For today, we're at ward 10. Tyler 28 now? I don't know. It's just a bit annoying. What's been said is the truth a bit. Just, i understand getting involved in a descussion but you don't need to reply to everyone directly do you? I can't even keep up, nor want to,m with people that post 29 times a day, in the last hour and 10 minutes at the longest, and try to follow conversation. Just makes for a tedious task. You've got to write all your emails at the end of the day, and still worry about
Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year
Hmm, I believe miriani fits in new muds, it's still in beta, not sure when they first started, though. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 2007 Accessible game of the year Hi, Do you know of any new muds released in 2007? The purpose of the awards were suppose to be for new or updated games in 2007. Not necessarily games that have been around for ages. Valiant (on laptop) wrote: don't forget best mud! grins --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Serious bug in Monte Beta 9
Hi. I found another bug. The save game menu is there, but when you arrow upward above the first option in the menu you can keep on going for infinity, the same is so when you arrow downward below the last option in that menu. Can't confirm, I don't have Monti yet, cackles. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 3:53 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Serious bug in Monte Beta 9 I don't understand your message. Do you have a spell checker of something to make it more understandable? Thanks. --- If you think you're finished, you! are! finished. - Original Message - From: Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 4:18 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Serious bug in Monte Beta 9 Hi, I've found another bug. The save game menu is messed up. The regular options are their, but if you arrow up above Yes you here th etitle of the menu, and then you can arrow up forever, and if you arrow down past No you can arrow down through empty slots forever. Original message: I have her do the jump when I hear the crumbly ledge. I have not run across, well, let's reword that?, fallen into, the problem being discussed anywhere in the game as of yet. (grin) --- If you think you're finished, you! are! finished. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Serious bug in Monte Beta 9 Hi, I haven't either. Though, one work around I can think of is try and jump on to the platform a step or two away from the ledge. It isn't necessary to be standing exactly upon a ledge to land on a vanishing platform. Angela can jump a good distance across those spike, lava, and fire pits. I might also add if you run directly off the end of a platform you are going to fall in or on whatever is below. The platforms don't cover the entire distance of the pits so you do have to be certain to jump before you get to the end of one otherwise Angela is going to land in something mighty unpleasant below. Charles Rivard wrote: I don't experience these deaths. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Prefered Sapi voice for games?
positive. There seams to be orpheus which is synthetic, and another one - Original Message - From: Bryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 9:15 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Prefered Sapi voice for games? Are you sure you're not thinking of the Orpheus voices? I'm pretty sure those come with Hal. Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. - Original Message - From: Valiant (on laptop) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Prefered Sapi voice for games? Hi. What about that one voice that comes with hal? I think it's by phone or some such, it sounds like a robot, but it's really really really easy to understand. And btw I'm not talking about like Dave. - Original Message - From: Cara Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Prefered Sapi voice for games? Well anyway, it's a moot point now, as the Apple voices I'm using are even more responsive than eloquence and sound a whole lot better! woohoo!... As I said though, I really want to thank you all for sharing your differing points of view. it's really something I've been curious about, and very interesting... Smiles, CQ :) On Jan 14, 2008, at 5:37 PM, Cory wrote: they're easy to understand if you've used them all your life, and they are really responcive like you said - Original Message - From: Cara Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 6:17 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Prefered Sapi voice for games? OMG! quite seriously, I'm asking what is the appeal of the eloquence voices? I mean, I personally have rarely heard voices so bad or difficult to listen to in my life. lol! I do like how responsive they are, but I'm honestly wondering what people see or hear rather, in them as far as quality?... smile As I said, humor aside, would love to hear from peeps... I personally prefer Crystal or Karen... Have an awesome day!... Smiles, Cara :) On Jan 14, 2008, at 4:53 AM, Cory wrote: Eloquence ReedEloquence ReedEloquence ReedEloquence ReedEloquence Reed please! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 12:39 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Prefered Sapi voice for games? Hello gamers, This weekend I have began porting Raceway and Tomb Raider to Java 6, and I have decided in the interests of the cross platform nature of the games as well as end user complaints of Sapi 5 during Monte testing I am probably going to return to including pre-recorded voice files in the games. However, before I do so out of the voices below which would you personally like to see for Raceway and other USA Games. ATT Crystal ATT Mike Eloquence Reed Scansoft Caren Scansoft Emily Scansoft Daniel Scansoft Jill Scansoft Lee Scansoft Tom Out of the list above if you had a favorite which would you pick? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL
Re: [Audyssey] Megaman clone was Robot games
Hi.Grins, make sure the voice can be understood. - Original Message - From: Bryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Megaman clone was Robot games If you needed help with voice clips and things as I said earlier I'd be happy to help with that part once you got to that point. I've got a lot of the Sapi voices you mentioned and it'd be no trouble at all to create the clips using Text Aloud. That'd take some of the work off your shoulders right there. In fact when I was toying with my Metroid clone idea I actually created some miniature descriptions of some of the upgrades using ATT Crystal and NeoSpeach Kate. Come to think of it some of the Cepstral voices might work for that as well. Give Amy a little bit of a robotic reverb and you get a pretty neat effect. Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 8:08 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Megaman clone was Robot games Hi Bryan, Yeah, I've always wanted to play an accessible game similar to Megaman. Fortunately, the Monte game engine itself is getting pretty stable with Beta 9, and after Monte is released I think it would be a bit of a shame not to use the existing engine to produce a couple of other side-scrollers like Megaman which could be easily designed on the Monte engine with a few changes here and there. I would say once the engine reaches 1.0 I could ave a new game done with the existing engine with in six months since all I would need do is create the new levels, add the new weapons, and modify the monster classes to support snipers, combat droids, bosses, and robot tanks, and other enemies from the Megaman universe with different names of course. Bryan wrote: I'd love an audio Megaman style game. I thought about designing one with AGM but due to the seemingly unresolvable sound issues and the lack of support from the community let alone the devs I was fored to abandon all my AGM projects. Otherwise I might have considered it, although with AGM's other limitations it would probably have been only a very basic style game. But I've reently gotten more into the older Megaman games, moreso than I was when they were originally released, and I've often thought a game of that genre would be neat. Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] stereo mix on vista.
Hi. sure you can, just move to recording, or, to speakers, and hit up arrow, you'll get put in the volume and it seams to be accessible, or click the buttons to get more options - Original Message - From: Jake [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] stereo mix on vista. There is a levels tab under stereo mix propertys but it's not jaws friendly. I had to route my jaws cursor to my pc cursor I think that's how I did it and managed to get in to the thing that changes the volume. I recommend getting sighted help for the levels tab but even with that, you wont be able to record games with your voice and the game at the same time. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Prefered Sapi voice for games?
Hi. Either that, or you could get someone to try using their own voice, like me, for example, lol. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Prefered Sapi voice for games? Hi Bryan, That would work. If someone made the files according to the spec I could then build the jar files containing the voices for everyone. Bryan wrote: You could always enlist the aid of others with some of the higher quality voices. I have Text Aloud and many of the voies you mentioned Thomas, and I'd be happy to contribute if necessary. Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Prefered Sapi voice for games?
Hi. What about that one voice that comes with hal? I think it's by phone or some such, it sounds like a robot, but it's really really really easy to understand. And btw I'm not talking about like Dave. - Original Message - From: Cara Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Prefered Sapi voice for games? Well anyway, it's a moot point now, as the Apple voices I'm using are even more responsive than eloquence and sound a whole lot better! woohoo!... As I said though, I really want to thank you all for sharing your differing points of view. it's really something I've been curious about, and very interesting... Smiles, CQ :) On Jan 14, 2008, at 5:37 PM, Cory wrote: they're easy to understand if you've used them all your life, and they are really responcive like you said - Original Message - From: Cara Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 6:17 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Prefered Sapi voice for games? OMG! quite seriously, I'm asking what is the appeal of the eloquence voices? I mean, I personally have rarely heard voices so bad or difficult to listen to in my life. lol! I do like how responsive they are, but I'm honestly wondering what people see or hear rather, in them as far as quality?... smile As I said, humor aside, would love to hear from peeps... I personally prefer Crystal or Karen... Have an awesome day!... Smiles, Cara :) On Jan 14, 2008, at 4:53 AM, Cory wrote: Eloquence ReedEloquence ReedEloquence ReedEloquence ReedEloquence Reed please! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 12:39 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Prefered Sapi voice for games? Hello gamers, This weekend I have began porting Raceway and Tomb Raider to Java 6, and I have decided in the interests of the cross platform nature of the games as well as end user complaints of Sapi 5 during Monte testing I am probably going to return to including pre-recorded voice files in the games. However, before I do so out of the voices below which would you personally like to see for Raceway and other USA Games. ATT Crystal ATT Mike Eloquence Reed Scansoft Caren Scansoft Emily Scansoft Daniel Scansoft Jill Scansoft Lee Scansoft Tom Out of the list above if you had a favorite which would you pick? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please
Re: [Audyssey] Prefered Sapi voice for games?
rofl omg I really do hate braille n speaks - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 3:37 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Prefered Sapi voice for games? Hi Stefen, All I can say is I go way back before Jaws for Dos was even invented. My first speech synth was an echo for an Apple 2-E, and the text games of the mid 80's era were fun. Anyway, I can remember the days when I had to use Jaws without such a thing as a software synth. In high school I had to carry around a 486 laptop with a dectalk express in my backpack which I plugged in after I got the laptop all setup on a table in the class room, and it was not a very portible setup. In fact, most of the time rather than bringing my Dectalk to school I turned on my Braille N Speak and ran it through speechbox mode with JFD and JFW 1.x. That was aweful speech! Stefen Hudson wrote: Wow. 3.2? I started with 3.5. The funny thing about that version of Eloquence was it sounded like it had a sinus problem compared to the newer versions. I've tried using the real speech voices that came with JAWS9 and had some trouble understanding them. They do sound a bit more natural, but sometimes they have this warble effect when they say certain words or phraises, and sometimes they don't say the entire word. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Prefered Sapi voice for games?
I find ESpeak as likeable as eloquence. cheers: - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 6:59 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Prefered Sapi voice for games? Hi, If you think Eloquence is bad think about Espeak. That is a voice that takes some serious getting use to. I use it under Linux with Orca only because it is fast and responsive, but the voice output would kill any game. It is bad enough when having to read books and stuff with it. With Eloquence and Espeak compared side by side I think Eloquence would win just because we have all gotten use to it even though it doesn't sound as human as Scansoft, Loquendo, Cepstral, etc. Bryan wrote: I couldn't agree with you more Cara. I use Eloquence from time to time in WIndow-Eyes, but more often I use one of the higher quality voices. In fact I tend to stear clear of some of Jim Kitchen's games because I don't like Eloquence for my gaming, even if it's just for reading stat information. Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Prefered Sapi voice for games?
Hi. I agree about the accent, that synth is wicked. - Original Message - From: Jim Kitchen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Thomas Ward Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 5:44 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Prefered Sapi voice for games? Hi Thomas, The first synthesized speech that I ever heard was on my Atari 800 XL home computer. There was a software package named Sams. It was not really a screen reader, but it would try to say anything that you typed in. You know the old PC before sound cards only had a mono channel speaker, but the Atari 800 like the Commodore 64 had a four channel sound mixer. So it could do better game sounds and do synthesized speech. Sams sure was fun to play with. It really would try to pronounce anything. None of the spelling it stuff if it didn't know how to say it. My first screen reader was Jaws for dos version 1.0 with an Accent stand alone synthesizer. It is really weird that everyone has there own likes, dislikes and can understand different speech better or worse. Personally I never liked the DecTalk and am not crazy about Eloquence. I did like the Accent S A and am very happy with my USB Triple Talk. But my favorite voices to use while playing games is ATT Lauren and ATT Charles. The Neo Speech voices are ok, but Scan Soft Tom to me is one of the worst sounding sapi5 voices. Well after the free Microsoft ones that is. grin BFN Jim The trouble with bucket seats is that not everybody has the same size bucket. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Prefered Sapi voice for games?
rofl 16k? wlolol! I was thinking 16 there and I was well not so bad, I've used one with 16mb ram, windows 95, jaws 5.0, you know, thins happened, but then I figured out you said k, not m, blinks, suppose that was the day that the 5mb hard drive was wicked, and it was 5.5 inch, or even bigger. - Original Message - From: Dakotah Rickard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 11:59 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Prefered Sapi voice for games? You know what, I'll never forget the day I played space invaders for something like three hours straight. That was the most single awesome game back then. Think my final score was like 5...not bad, if I remember right. The apple 2e with I think a whopping 16k RAM. Signed: Dakotah Rickard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bryan Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 16:22 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Prefered Sapi voice for games? Ah yes, I also remember those days. I'll be twenty-eight this June and I remember well the days of running a BNS through a computer for use with JFD. I also remember the Echo. It's funny, but while that was probably some of the worst speech ever it was still some of the coolest. I remember those text games that used to be available from the same company that made the Echo. There was that Dragon Maze game and that weird Space Invaders game. Good times. I've had a lot of trouble finding voice clips of the Echo synthesizer, but hearing it sure brings back memories. Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:37 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Prefered Sapi voice for games? Hi Stefen, All I can say is I go way back before Jaws for Dos was even invented. My first speech synth was an echo for an Apple 2-E, and the text games of the mid 80's era were fun. Anyway, I can remember the days when I had to use Jaws without such a thing as a software synth. In high school I had to carry around a 486 laptop with a dectalk express in my backpack which I plugged in after I got the laptop all setup on a table in the class room, and it was not a very portible setup. In fact, most of the time rather than bringing my Dectalk to school I turned on my Braille N Speak and ran it through speechbox mode with JFD and JFW 1.x. That was aweful speech! Stefen Hudson wrote: Wow. 3.2? I started with 3.5. The funny thing about that version of Eloquence was it sounded like it had a sinus problem compared to the newer versions. I've tried using the real speech voices that came with JAWS9 and had some trouble understanding them. They do sound a bit more natural, but sometimes they have this warble effect when they say certain words or phraises, and sometimes they don't say the entire word. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] muddding question
Hi. Yeah I play Miriani myself, I'm Siecel Mahotsukai. I'm putting together a lousy but attempt at a podcast for it, I wanna put it on blindcooltech, wonder how you do that. - Original Message - From: shaun everiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:40 AM Subject: [Audyssey] muddding question Hi. are there any accessible startrek muds that are good? I play miriani actaully I have started to do it seriously again but I'd a startrek type mud or something that has a soundpack I have monkeyterm how do I do programming for it? also I think there is a vip mud client under test by gma, how do I get on the testing side? or am I to late. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] stereo mix on vista.
Hi. Do you have any suggestions if the only recording device your computer shows is microphone, and you do have show hidden devices checked? And, if that same computer should be able to use stereo mix if it has xp installed? All I have is microphone, how annoying, I've been going crazy trying to figure out how to get something like wave out mix, or what you hear, surely this comp can do it, it has a realtech. And to make it on topic, this made it really hard to record my podcast for miriani, I had to interface with my olympus and have it do the recording, and the laptop had the playback microphone unmuted, so we got my laptop's mic and it's sounds going into the mic jack on the olympus, and I got to hear it through the olympus's headphone jack because it monitors when you're recording. - Original Message - From: Gary Whittington [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 2:18 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] stereo mix on vista. Making it related to games. Yes, I have been using Vista for over half a year. The real nice thing is that you can change the sound levels on everything. Set a level for Jaws and set one for a game. Have a different sound level for SayTheTime or Live Messager. This may not be what your looking for, since you only asked who uses Vista's Stereo Mix. Now to change any levels move your PC cursor to the system tray. Open Volume. Tab to Mix button This will open what you will be more use too. The volumes for each program that is running that has sound output is shown with volume, balance sliders and mute buttons. If you don't see the volume control in the tray that you what to change the sound on a game You may need to enable Stereo Mixer. To do this: Microsoft has lumped enabling and d things like Microphone and Stereo mixer under the Recording tab. This best thing I found is: Go to control panel.. Second open Sounds.*** Very Important once you open and are sitting in a combo box saying Speakers, ((Do not arrow down))). This will shut down all sounds including Jaws. I know from experience.If you have RealTech sound card that is. So when you ever get into this list box with Speakers being the first thing do not arrow below it. To see the name of your sound card under Speakers use your mouse. You can still change and test Speakers when it is selected by Tabbing away from the list box or by using the mouse to left click on Speakers. If anybody does arrow to far reboot. If sound does not return have a sight person help you get back to the list box so you can have them click on Speakers. OK to finish this up. To enable stereo Mix on Vista. Once you are on the list box and Speakers not selected Shift Tab. You will be on the Playback tab. arrow to the right to record. Tab down. You then will be in a list box on items you can enable or disable. Arrow down to Stereo Mix, left click. In the menu you will find if you can either enable or disable. If it says enable then that means it is disable. Hitting enter will change its status to what the menu item is. Final note. What I have found out about Vista that in this list box is where some sound cards will have a mix that was like the sound mix called Every thing you hear. RealTech has not this option because they don't want you to record live streams. So, when you want to record playing a game with your narration, what is coming from your speakers is being recording off your microphone, which means it sounds like its in the background. I paid nearly 1200 bucks for my media computer and I get a sound card that can not do a full recording. And, and now I find that my TV Card sucks. I am able to hook my cable up to it, but the lower channels are coming in poorly. I had the cable man in and this is what we found out. So, it looks like I will need to buy a better sound card that allows recording of stereo mix with the mic at the same time and a better TV Card. Cable guy had a 30 dollar TV card and had the same problems. So that means I have a cheap TV card and will need to buy a higher price card to listen to the new show Terminator on my computer. Hope this helped you and others for gaming and TV listening. Smiles. Crash - Original Message - From: Yohandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:52 AM Subject: [Audyssey] stereo mix on vista. Does anyone know how to use the stereo mix feature on vista? For whatever reason they've made the volume control quite difficult to use, and I can't figure out how to enable it. Not sure if this is considered off topic, so if it is please email your answer off list. thanks! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription
Re: [Audyssey] shades of doom beating the dead
Hi. Yeah I stumbled into that one once, er, for reasons such as I was so worked up about the retarded monster who just refused to croak that I didn't stop when he did die, so yeah, I found out about that grins. - Original Message - From: Everett Elam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 1:11 AM Subject: [Audyssey] shades of doom beating the dead Lo all! Did you guys know that once a monster is done you can now continually stab the corpse or punch it? Excellent for anger management! I don't know if that was possible or not before, but shrug is now. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] the sarah walk through
Hi. Actually, I haven't found out where it's included. If it is, I'd like to know where grins. - Original Message - From: Raul A. Gallegos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:28 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the sarah walk through Hi. Actually, you don't' need to identify yourself since your name is already included. So, if this still does not work for you, there are always things called signatures which you can use with your name at the end of the messages. This way you don't have to write another message like the one below. Saves you time and saves us time in reading a superfluous message. Hope this helps. nicol said the following on 1/9/2008 12:57 PM: Sorry, I forgot to identify myself. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 6:09 PM To: Gamers Subject: [Audyssey] the sarah walk through Congrats phil. I like the sarah walk through. The sarah lateral fiction document at the end of the walk through: is it the same as the sarah lateral fiction document which can be found separately in the folder where sarah is installed? -- Raul A. Gallegos -- http://www.asmodean.net --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] PSC games
Oh, so bscgames still exists a bit heh. I haven't heard anything from bsc for ages, he must be really busy yeah. I wanted to ask you folks what happened to him, since an attempt or two to sign up to the bsc list have failed, and he's too quiet these days, but I kept on forgetting. Good to hear he's still around. - Original Message - From: Raul A. Gallegos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jeremy Gilley [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] PSC games No, but a good place to start would be to write [EMAIL PROTECTED] and ask them directly. I do know they are in the process of doing that. Considering that Justin works 40 plus hours per week in his main job, I'm sure he does not have super amounts of time to devote to getting them ready. Jeremy Gilley wrote: Does anyone have any clue as to when the PSC games will be come VISTA friendly? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Raul A. Gallegos .. http://www.asmodean.net --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] So is anybody other than me playing ashes of angels?
Hi. Are you also gar on Alter aeon? Lol - Original Message - From: Tj [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] So is anybody other than me playing ashes of angels? I play it. It's fun. I'm Gar. - Original Message - From: Orin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] So is anybody other than me playing ashes of angels? I'll be playing again soon, forgot it was back. Heh. On Jan 9, 2008, at 1:06 PM, Darren Harris wrote: Hi all, Just wondering if anybody else was playing this game. If so am gandalf the white on there. Fast expanding I might add! Happy trading!! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] another suggestion for the sarah game
Hi., don't forget about merlin's beerd, haha. - Original Message - From: nicol [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 2:35 PM Subject: [Audyssey] another suggestion for the sarah game HI phil For the new patch, can't you limit the number of inventory items? In this way the game won't lock up if I arrow down to the last item such as the crystal ball. If sarah tries to pick up something new and her inventory has reached a certain number of items, she then should say something like: Oh my word, I need to empty my pockets! Then gamers have to get rid of things like eating sweets, and storing things in the broom cupboard such as those strange objects in the room of requirement. You should also ensure that library books stays in the library if a gamer exits the library. You said in your walk through that library books goes back to the library if I exit the library, but it doesn't happen. I carry the books with me and I have to get rid of them myself. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] programming games
Hi. Same here, python's all right, but those line things really screw me up bad. I have a heck of a time developing the simplest test apps with it, I find it difficult to figure out which part of the code I'm in and such, and I don't have a braille display yet. If I ever get it, I'll have a brailliant 24 or 32before long, which probably isn't long enough for such a thing. - Original Message - From: Bryan Mckinnish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] programming games Hi everyone. Remember when I told you I chose python? That's still an option, but I also wonder about java. That's a new option I thought of. Is java easy to learn as well? Does java have the formatting specification stuff? That's the only thing that's keeping me from exploring python more. I'm not used to formatting code. Thanks. Bryan Mckinnish - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] programming games Hi Bryan, If you want to really get to know Python I suggest signing up for a Safari Books subscription at http://safari.oreilly.com and reading the book Python In A Nutshell which walks you step by sstep through the language and how to use the Python tools. As for building a Windows application, (win32 *.exe file,) you need to run a program called py2exe on your Python source code. It will compile your Python source code into a standard Win32 application. As far as formatting goes the basic rule of thumb is this. Function definition lines are not indented. New statement blocks like an if or try is indented 4 spaces and any statements inside those if or try statements is indented 8 spaces. Here is an example with comments included so you can see what I am doing below. If you don't have punctuation set to full on your screen reader now would be a good time to set it to full. #Function definition line. #This is never indented. def KillEnemy(enemy) #Begin an if statement. #Will be indented 4 spaces in from the left. if enemy == 1: #Statement line. #Will be indented 8 spaces from the left. enemy1.Killed(True) #End if comment. #Is here just to tell the developer #that we have ended an if statement. #Is indented 4 spaces to be in #line with the if statement above. #Press enter twice to #begin a new function definition. As you can see above I have included lots of comments using the # sign to mark off text that instructs you how to format the function above. Of course a seasoned developer probably wouldn't add so many comments in a real Python application, but that is the jist of formatting a Python script. Important notes to remember here is that you need to add 2 new line characters after the end of one function and the beginning of a new one or Python will assume they are both apart of the same function. I always like to put a comment after each statement block such as #End if #End function #End try and so on so that I can easily come back and see where one function or block of ends and where a new one begins. This is optional of course, but as a new Python developer I think you will need them very much. Cheers. Bryan Mckinnish wrote: Hi. I have a couple of questions. What are the formatting specifications with python, and where can I find a good tutorial? I can't find that bite of python one. Also, once I made a little program, how do I compile it and stuf? Thanks. Bryan Mckinnish --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns
Re: [Audyssey] from nicol. sarah impressions
Hi. Yeah, I have it running in vista business. - Original Message - From: Jeremy Gilley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] from nicol. sarah impressions is this game vista friendly? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 4:37 PM Subject: [Audyssey] from nicol. sarah impressions Some text in this post might be a spoiler hi phil. I'm quite impressed with the quiditch pitch. The sound the bludgers makes when they injure sarah is perfect. Its spookie. I wanted to keep the quiditch pitch for last after i have solved the other puzzles but i wanted to see what happens if i go out of an owlery window while on my broom. I haven't been to the forbidden forest. I catched the snitch very easily. I just side stepped a few times and then i got it. I'm playing on easy difficulty. I'm just very disappointed that the game locks up if i get close to the motor bike. When i managed to catch the snitch i heard the caretaker talking with sarah and then i hear dementors. It seems like they carry sarah away. When i finish the game i would like to hear congrachulations, you have completed sarah and the castle of witchcraft and wizardry successfully. After the dementors i hear sarah saying the money left in her bag and then i hear the pcs games logo tune. If i have to do something to prevent the dementors from taking sarah away please don't give the solution, i want to figure it out first. I just thought of mentioning it to you in case its a bug. Please also note that the troll on floor7 doesn't eat any bad candy. The only way to get past it is to stun it. Also no password works on the lady in the portrait. According to one of the books harry and his friends spoke the picksnout password to go in and out of the castle so i suppose its probably another way to get to the quiditch pitch but if i try picksnout the lady says no password no entrance. No other password works either. i still have the problem that when i arrow down my inventory to get to the crystal ball the game locks up. I'll have to start the game all over from the ground floor and try to get rid of unnecessary inventory items. I'll eat all sweets as i pick them up and stuff such as those in the room of requirement i'll store in the broom cupboard. Hopefully the game won't lock up if i scroll down my inventory. It appears that i can't drop a nimbus broom if i have 3. If i try to drop a magic or normal broom if i have more than one, both brooms are dropped instead. And if i drop books i have read in the library it should also solve my inventory problem. I just wish you can soon do something about the motor bike. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] programming games
Hi. Could you forward that info to me too? grins. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] programming games Hi Bryan, You can get all the Java command line development kits from: http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp As for documentation, input, keyboarding, sounds, etc I will write you off list as we are probably getting off topic with this thread. Bryan Mckinnish wrote: Hi Tom. Thanks for that. Where can I find the java sdk and the filess that teach java? I might give that a go. What about sounds, keyboard input and that stuff? Thanks. Bryan Mckinnish --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Monkey Term revisited for vista please
Hi there. I consider this problem a little too various to solve on a mailing list. Use connect, a wee tiny application that I'll link to you in a second, to connect to alter aeon, or, skype text message me at aarontech.valiant and I'll see what I can do. http://www.braillesoft.net/connect.zip Extract the contents of this here zipped file and click on the connect.exe file. Connect will run, and we can try to use that long enough to communicate. Either that, or use monkey term, create a new xml like stefen explained, but avoid importing import.xml, just make a new session, supply the port and host address and session name, and connect. now use jaws cursor to read it until you get me or someone to work with you on the rest of the problem. you see, connect works directly with jaws, providing output, but you don't seam to be able to read history with it, so if you missed something, you have a hard time getting to hear it again. You can also get gmud like stefen mentioned, and just turn jaws to echo all text and do it that way. Even another alternative is to run telnet. Vista doesn't have telnet installed by default. To see if it's installed, go to start menu and type telnet dentinmud.org 3010. If you don't have the right start menu enabled, just type windows key plus r and type telnet dentinmud.org 3010. If telnet isn't installed you get a sound and an error about couldn't find telnet. Go to programs and features from control panel, try typing programs into start menu search box if you get lost? Now tab over till you get turn windows features on or off and hit that with both barrels as someone said once. Wait a minute or so for it to scan what you do and don't already have. when you get your list view of features you can enable and disable, down arrow to telnet client and check that, don't worry about telnet server. Now tab to ok and hit enter. now wait an amazingly long time for it to configure the changes, then go to run and type telnet dentinmud.org 3010 one more time and it should work. You'll probably have to use the jaws cursor to read telnet properly. - Original Message - From: Michael Maslo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Monkey Term revisited for vista please Steven: Thank you for the information you provided but I think there is a problem with the registering of the dll files. I ran gma solitaire game and then tried to run the monkey term program. I did everything as you said but when I ran the monkey term program I got those vb run errors. I could tell everything else was working correctly but Jaws speaking. Jaws still will not speak. I think it is because I am using Windows Vista. Could this be a problem? It is obvious the dll files are not registering as it should. Any ideas of how I can make or do the registering of the dll's manually? If so, can you explain that to me? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stefen Hudson Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 6:39 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Monkey Term revisited for vista please Hi again. Connecting with MonkeyTerm is actually pretty easy. If you already have the import.xml file, just follow these steps. That may be why you're having trouble to begin with. These instructions assume that you're using JAWS for Windows. If you're using another screen reader supported by the VBScript code in your import.xml file, modify them accordingly. 1. Open the MonkeyTerm application. 2. From the list box, choose new session. 3. Fill out the fields presented. They'll already have information for astromud filled in, so just erase that and enter the information for Alter Aeon. Session name should be something that you can identify the session with. For the host name, put in dentinmud.org, and for the port, put 3010. When all the information is entered, press enter. The client will connect to the server, but you won't hear anything yet. We'll fix that in the next few steps. 4. Open the file menu and select import/merge xml. 5. Navigate to the folder where you saved import.xml. When you've located the file, either hit the open button or simply press enter in the combo box. The import.xml file contains the VBScript code that tells MonkeyTerm how to interface with JAWS using the JAWS API. Without it, MonkeyTerm will not speak. 6. You should hear JAWS say, JAWS speech ready. At this point MonkeyTerm will be interfaced with JAWS, and everything coming through the client should be spoken. If this is not the case and you get a bunch of VBScript errors when you look with the JAWS cursor, the dll libraries might not be registered. If you've installed and run the GMA solitaire game, all those dlls should have been registered. If they still aren't, then we have a bigger problem that I unfortunately
Re: [Audyssey] Raceway for Mac or Linux?
Hi. NVDA works with java, I think, I could be wrong, but it has enough support to run with open office.org, window eyes users unhappy about maybe this thing not supporting window eyes? could just download NVDA and use that if you need it, just a thinks. - Original Message - From: shaun everiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Raceway for Mac or Linux? hal is supposed to be up with it but with 5.2 access java, aah no. At 10:19 a.m. 3/01/2008, you wrote: Hi Willem, I just did some research on supported Java platforms and it appears Mac X Leopard comes with Java 1.5.13 , and of course there is both Windows and Linux versions of Java 1.5.13. As a result if I write my future games in Java making a game cross platform should be a piece of cake. Java has it's own gaming APIs, the Java accessibility API, which happens to work with Jaws, VoiceOver, and Orca which means any games I create would work with the three major screen readers in question. Window Eyes still is behind with Java technology, but I can't help it if GW Micro is not on the ball with Java like other screen readers apparently are. Willem wrote: Thomas, I have no doubt that you would be able to make your games cross platform, although it sounds as if, to use the metaphor, you would have to make oranges taste like apples, to make everything work correctly, but in the end it is your choice. Only you can decide if the effort necessary validates the reward. No question, it would be a good thing to have a cross platform raceway and I am sure you will release a quality product,. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Monkey Term revisited for vista please
Hello. could you connect to alter aeon and try to talk to someone who is willing to help? I believe it'll be easier to solve the problem using text message rather than email and wait. Just connect to dentinmud.org port 3010 Use a tell command to try to find mathayas or moose, can't speak for moose really but we're usually logged in, we'll get you somewhere. - Original Message - From: Michael Maslo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 11:58 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Monkey Term revisited for vista please Hi again: I missed one of the emails that talked about a work around with monkey term and installing monkey lib in vista. Please can someone repost the information? I tried to install gma games solitaire but that did not help. I ran as a system administrator and that did not help either. Any other ideas outside of those? Thanks again. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Multiplatform Games
Hi. I do happen to know macs run windows all right. In fact, I've heard claim that g4s and this like that turn out to run vista a looot better than pcs designed for windows do, how stpid and not surprising. Anyway, so if I'm a mac only user, and I wanna play rail racer, or gtc, or lw, or sod, or soundrts, oh wait take that back, it already supports, I gotta figure out how to install windows rofl? That means mom gets to sit here with me for about an hour, then I gotta find drivers and raaa, how easy and supportive. If that's what you meant, me thinks those who develop games that should run slick and smooth on multiple operating systems, maybe even miniature OS's, like windows mobile or simbion or something, although I'm betting simbion can't run something like rail racer but the thing, that could open up lots of gates for cash and make the developer's work more worth while. not to mention, if I had me Linux, I just might by god stick to it, since even though I'm a native windows user, I don't find it too all fired brilliant and wonderful and run-perfect and all that. I bet ubuntu doesn't screw up every time I try to connect to my very own home wireless network, or bulk when I plug it into the rj45 jack at school and end up giving me no access to the internet, or crash when I try to shut it down, or catch a virus despite precautions that's eating up executable files on my server's hard drive and making programs useless and avading my attempts to remove it, or crashing when I attempt to resume from hibernation, let alone failing to hibernate or stand by all together, or giving me the BSOD and not talking about it to me, or installing updates after I go to shut down, only I can tell it hasn't shut down, and I have to guess at whether it's properly installing updates, or if it froze up after my screen reader got killed and me hit the power button when maybe it says bright and clear up there on that screen, Do not shut down your computer until this process is finished, or run 60 to 95 processes at a time for a brand spanking new vista machine! Slowing my computer to a crawl, even before I start to install my own programs that I want to use, or have the screen reader reading text in a background window while I'm trying to check email, or produce a wild case of system dings when I hit control immediately after entering message body so as to start right off using arrows to read, those last two are jaw's fault but they count as far as I'm concerned. And I haven't even started on about 200 dollars for a good OS, and then somewhere getting unnervingly close to 2000 dollars for the stupid screen reader if you want professional access and remote desktop, ok granted window-eyes is less than half that but now add 1 to 500 dollars for Microsoft office, unless you wanna go download open office.org, sure that'll work, except now the screen reader won't read the thin worth a hoot, or another 4 to 500 dollars for a good music mixing software that can do decent recording and crap, yeah I could go on for a looot longer about how if I found Linux to be a better solution I could switch to it, and then be thrilled if some of those wonder game developers started porting games to my lap so I wouldn't have to touch windows again! Anyway, the point is, as far as it goes with me, if developers start making games work with other operating systems, they'll get no complaint from me. Also, windows users, I'm as much a windows user as any of you are, quite likely anyway, but darned if I wouldn't switch to something else if it proved to be a better option, and having games available on alternative operating systems is a starter.H - Original Message - From: Che [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 10:43 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Multiplatform Games Thomas wrote: It is true that most Mac users are running our games through Windows virtual machines, but as I stated in an earlier post that is nowhere near as good as playing the game that is natively supported by the os or run through something like the Java runtime. End quote Do you know this for a fact? I have a few users of Rail Racer running on Mac and as far as I know it works quite well. I was under the impression windows was running natively, not in an emulated mode, but I could be totally off base there. Given the low overhead of accessible games in general, I would think any accessible game would run just fine in a windows environment running on Macs, given todays processor speeds, but I haven't checked this for myself. I agree the envelope should be pushed with accessible games, and quite hard, but given the overwhelming majority of windows users out there at this point in time, for me the R and D time is better spent making a windows game as fun and immerssive as possible. But again, that is just me and my angle on things, if
Re: [Audyssey] Speaking of Linux and Games.
Hello. If you get the urge to do that podcast you mentioned, I'm sure going to be giving it a listen. You know what, I think lots of peeps will. Lots of us are going hmm, I wanna do it, but how's it work. I tried it already, but I didn't get very far, cause I was a bit uninformed. I didn't know about hitting alt+f2 and then typing orca. So I was stuck with a sighted wise guy trying to figure it out. He's a computer geek, but he didn't make it anywhere. I bet you've got a whole cloud full of folks who'd break their necks to download and give that one a listen, and I'd be grateful for certains, can't speak for nobody else. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Speaking of Linux and Games. Hi Kuvvosh, The Linux you want to get is Ubuntu Linux 7.10 found at http://www.ubuntu.com Perhaps sometime I should do a blind cool tech pod cast on doing a Linux install with speech which is very accesible. You basically boot the cd rom, log in, start orca, let it log out, log back in restart orca, and you can do the install with speech. There are a few steps involved getting the setup going with speech, but it is easy after you do it the first time or have someone walk you through the setup once. Kuvvosh wrote: Where Oh Where do I get a Linux that has a talking installer? I've looked up and down for a copy, and yet not found one. I used to use linux back in the days but, have yet found one with a talking installer. I hope there is one of Mandrake I love that disco. Kuvvosh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Speaking of Linux and Games.
Hi. This is interesting. I keep on getting messages with quotes where I can't puzzle out where the actual answer to the quoter is, and then I get messages with answers but no quotes, so I've got to guess at who we're replying to. Am I missing something? or can something be done to solve this problem, is it me? nobody else has mentioned it since I joined. Yes, I saw that little thing in the welcome about how there's limit on thread size, so that they don't get so big, but dang, it seams to me that it makes these messages a little more pointless, since you can't piece together all the useful things you get to get the complete answer lists like this one are so brilliant at providing. - Original Message - From: Mike Reiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Speaking of Linux and Games. Kuvvosh wrote: Where Oh Where do I get a Linux that has a talking installer? I've looked up and down for a copy, and yet not found one. I used to use linux back in the days but, have yet found one with a talking installer. I hope there is one of Mandrake I love that disco. Kuvvosh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] buntu is quite good, comes with espeak and orca. Mike --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Accessible self-defence
Hi. Karate? I've read up on it a bit by chance, and it appears that it's similar to judo in sorts. I recall it mentioned you hold on to your opponent's gui, I assume that's like the coat with it's lapel type thingy, only it's named differently in this case when you're going to start. after that, I believe things change, as they do in wrestling and judo, so that contact is maintained as much as possible. The moves are just different. If contact is broken, the action stops, and is resumed again, in proper contact. I could be off my marks on that, but I took me a stab, guessing in dim and cloudy light where the target was. - Original Message - From: ari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 5:43 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Accessible self-defence Hi all, This might be off-topic, but I just don't know where to ask and it's sort of a question of having fun or entertainment for blind people. I'd like to know are Tai Chi and karate accessible for blind people? I know blindys can do Judo, but what other martial arts courses have any totally blindys done and did any adaptation need to be made considering you were practicing with sighted persons, like did the teacher come round and demonstrate the moves? Thanks Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] from nicol. test
Hi. I have great difficulty reading your display name, lol. Can you get rid of that number? As it stands, it took me about 10 seconds to get to the subject, heheh. Oh, and btw, no offence intended. Cheers: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 2:43 PM Subject: [Audyssey] from nicol. test I have great difficulty posting to this list. This is just a test to see if the problem has been solved. My sincere appologies for any inconvenience caused. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Accessible self-defence
Yes, my own list, which has only 5 members atm, but I'm welcoming anyone who comes in and stays polite. it's [EMAIL PROTECTED], if you don't know how to subscribe, and you want to, send me a private email, feel a bit uncomfortable mentioning it here, seams impolite of me toward those who run this list. - Original Message - From: ari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 1:42 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible self-defence Cool idea Cara, create one. Talking about lists, is there actually a list for if I'm a blind person and I just want to ask questions to other blind people about how to get things done or where to find resources etc, example the self-defence, is there a list where I could have just posted that question and it would be answered by other blind people? Thanks Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Raceway for Mac or Linux?
hmm one wild idea I can think of is maybe 3 different versions of raceway. I mean really 3 different version, wouldn't it rock having to code all that? haha. but one is for windows, and the other is for max, and the last for lenix, although ya know, aren't lenix and max almost the same opporating system as in mac is bassed off lenix? So wonder if you could use just two versions, one works with both lenix and mac. - Original Message - From: Willem [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 2:18 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Raceway for Mac or Linux? also isn't it posible for people using other opperating systems to run windows emilators and play the games like that? - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 8:15 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Raceway for Mac or Linux? Hello gamers, For about a month or so I have been doing research for USA Games on how to expand our future titles to target Mac, Linux, and Windows operating systems all at the same time. While my research isn't complete I do have some options on how I might actually target all three major operating systems at once. If research is successful I would like to convert all of the existing Raceway code over to a non-Windows specific language so I can support Mac, Linux, and Windows all at the same time. There are advantages and disadvantages to doing this which I would like to point out below. The obvious major advantage would be that no longer would a gamer have to be running Windows x to play accessible games like Raceway. Weather you use Mac, Linux, or Windows as your favorite os of choice you can play Raceway and future USA Games titles using the same technology. IN addition operating systems such as Linux with little to no high quality accessible games would be an equally powerful accessible gaming platform. Since Linux OS is free and my games are pretty cheap by most currancy standards it would save gamers money if they chose it as their gaming platform. One other advantage of going multiplatform in general that I think would be good for this comunity is platform independant networked games. Everyone who plays Rail Racer says that the online racing aspect is the high point of the game. Now, imagine taking that idea, build it using Java's excelant platform independant networking API, and play against blind players on any operating system out there. You might be running Windows Vista while the guy you are racing against is on Linux or Mac. However, there are a few pit falls and disadvantages I'd like to mention which I think should be addressed here. First, to insure maximum platform independence I would not likely be using DirectX as the multimedia API of choice. As a result some of the features of Raceway that were promised like force feedback stearing wheels, would have to be dropped in favor of using more generic and universal input devices like mice and keyboards with universal keyboard standards. This won't likely go down well with Raceway fans hoping for these features. Second, is the question of speech output. Every operating system has its own unique way of presenting text to speech. For Windows it is done through Microsoft Speech API 5 and on say Linux the Gnome-Speech API handles things like tts for applications. Obviously, making specific wrappers for each operating systems tts is time consuming and difficult. The more logical thing would be to use wav samples of speech like many other accessible games do That would be platform independant, but increase the size of the games quite a bit, and could cutdown performence. One option I have if I pick Java is include the Free TTS engine in with my games. The problem with that approach is that the voice is very robotic and sounds like Robby the Robot on crack. Though, it would offer the possability to create built in chat clients and other platform independant gaming tools that requires a tts engine. One thing about Raceway that bothers me is the custom driver feature. While it is no sweat to have a language like Java read a list of custom drivers from an xml file it wouldn't work if all the voice clips are wav files. To pull that off you need something like Gnome-Speech, Sapi, etc to read any updates or changes to the game made outside the factory defaults. Either that or Free TTS which sounds terrible. in the end I might have to cut out that feature which some customers might not like as well. As a developer I am really torn by what I want to do, and what is good for the game. I know many of you had requested features, suggestions, etc that if I stick with Windows is all very possible. However, I've been on the orca mailing list for Linux, seen recent Mac posts on this list, and I can clearly see that multiplatform games are beginning to be in demand. I think it is time that
Re: [Audyssey] MUD clients for Vista which are accessible
Hi. There's some basic scripts that might help, though not with your audio problem, at http://aarontech.randylaptop.com/games/muds/monkeyterm - Original Message - From: Mike Reiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] MUD clients for Vista which are accessible Michael Maslo wrote: Hi everyone: H Appy New Year's and a question. Does anyone know a mud client I can use with windows Vista? I use monkey term with my xp system with the scripts for self speaking with Jaws. However when I installed Monkey Term as administrator that worked perfectly but when I tried to run the monkey lib file it would not register the regsrvr.dll file. Any ideas of what I can try to do this or install it? If not, does anyone know a mud client I can use with Jaws and windows vista? Thanks in advance. If scripts are needed also, where can I get them at? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Willem Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 11:29 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Woo! I bought monty I just bought Montezuma's Return. I look forward to playing. Good luck to you Thomas on this and all your projects. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any stndrd mud client should work, including monkey term. The GMA mudclient should be out within a month or so in beta. Hope this helps, Mike --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] a few MUSHclient issues
Hi Jaliya. Dang, again, someone I know's on here :P. Anyway, try monkey term? I tried mush client and had the same problem you're having now, so I put it aside. - Original Message - From: jaliya skye [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 3:19 PM Subject: [Audyssey] a few MUSHclient issues Hi everyone: My laptop died on Saturday night. You know, the last hurrah, and all that. ugg. In any event, I purchased a desktop which uses Vista and am working on reinstalling old programs. Fun for the entire family! You know, sort of like a root canal. With pliers and no Whisky. In any case, I downloaded mushclient and have the JFW plug-in, but I'm having a few speech issues and I don't know if it is from all of the new changes or something I'm doing wrong. I am also using jaws 9. Sometimes when rereading room descriptions with the jaws cursor, it cuts off and ends up reading parts of another program, for example, windows mail folders. It's almost like the program is transparent at times. Also, many times when I am rereading something in MUSHclient, I'll get a message like 'line 100, december 31, 2007' tooltip. I never got these messages before..well, I did get the occcasional tool tip, which I assume is just some random word that is being highlighted. But as for the rest of the extraneous text, it's driving me a little crazy. Sometimes, jaws doesn't seem to focus correctly and I'm not certain what exactly is causing the quirks. What am I doing wrong? How can I fix this so that I can go back to happily mudding? Thanks so much for your assistance. Jal --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Programming games
Hi. Any idea if visual studio 2008 express works? I can't download 2005, all 2005 links on microsoft take me to 2008 download page, grr. Them jaws scripts on grab bag website, will they function with 2008? - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Programming games Hi Robin, I primarily use Window Eyes 6.1 with Visual Studio 2005 and don't encounter really any access issues with it. When I used Jaws with it it seamed to do ok as long as you turned off a couple of options in the editor that drew Jaws focus away from the edit Window. As for panning a sound to the left I don't know that I can write up a simple sample as there is allot of steps in volved from creating the object variables, to loading your sound card, setting up the buffer options, to playing the sound, and then moving it to the left. I have written a class that does this stuff for me because doing it for several sounds is allot of work without having your own class that does it all behind the seens so to speak. Robin Kipp wrote: Hi Tom! Thanks for the very deteiled description of all these languages! Well, how accessible is the C-Sharp editor with Jaws? And can you maybe give me a simple example of how you could use DirectX to play a sound in the left speaker just to give me an idea of how it works? Thanks a lot! Robin --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] mush client
http://randylaptop.com if you were going there to look up monkey term, http://aarontech.randylaptop.com/games/muds/monkeyterm has more stuff on it. I also have scripts to give monkey term some features like auto say and volume controls for com audio sound output and stuff, not to mention it speaks using jaws, window eyes or sapi by default. - Original Message - From: john snowling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 2:08 AM Subject: [Audyssey] mush client Hi all. Could someone tell me if there are any tutorials available for mush client also jfw scripts as I use jaws 7.0. Could someone also give me the address to randy laptop. Thanks from john snowling. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Speaking of Linux and Games.
Hi. UBUNTU? http://ubuntu.org - Original Message - From: Kuvvosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 1:40 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Speaking of Linux and Games. Where Oh Where do I get a Linux that has a talking installer? I've looked up and down for a copy, and yet not found one. I used to use linux back in the days but, have yet found one with a talking installer. I hope there is one of Mandrake I love that disco. Kuvvosh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Audyssey] Happy near year everyone!
For those of you on eastern standard time or other gmt -5s, Happy new year!!! Aaron T. Spears (valiant) EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and others MSNMessenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: computeruser89 and skype: aarontech.valiant Beta Testing System Information: soney Vaio VGN250n . Intel core 2 duo 1.66ghz . 2,048 mb ddr2 SDRAM (667 mhz) . Intel graphics . Realtech audio Toshiba 160gb 5,400 rpm hdd (Microsoft Windows Vista business) --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Monkey Business on the Laptop?
try second from bottom left - Original Message - From: Bryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Monkey Business on the Laptop? FN? The only key at the bottom left edge of mine is the Control key. The laptop's a Compac Presario if that means anything. Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. - Original Message - From: Raul A. Gallegos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Monkey Business on the Laptop? Press fn and M at the same time and that will simulate an insert. For that matter, pressing fn turns the right side of the alphabet keyboard into a number pad. You can google around for the keyboard layout exactly, but basically the M is the zero key, jkl are 123, uio are 456, and 789 are 789 as if it was a number pad. All while holding down the fn key which if the laptop is a good one, will be located at the bottom left edge of the keyboard. I've seen laptops which don't have it here and I've not purchased them for that exact reason. Of course, you can always get an external USB foldable keyboard or a USB floppy keyboard which you can roll up, spit on, throw up on, or lick if you choose, and it will still work. Good luck. Bryan wrote: Hi folks, First off I'll just say happy holidays to everybody on here. But I've got a qestion regarding using Monkey Business on a laptop. I was most delighted to learn that the game now included a demo. Since I lost my old reg code (and in any case I bought it from Adora using a different Email and therefore don't know if i could get a replaement), I haven't been able to play the game. That and both the computers on which I had the game installed are now dead. Anyway, yesterday I was feeling rather nostalgic and so I downloaded the MB demo. I have but one problem. as we all know, the key for quickly turning to face the opposite direction is the Numpad Insert key, otherwise known as Zero. Well, most laptops, mine included, don't have such a key. Is there an alternate keystroke for that function or, failing that, a way to somehow configure the keyboard? Thanks for any help you can give me. I really enjoyed this game and would love to get back into it, but my only computer right now is the laptop. Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Raul A. Gallegos .. http://www.asmodean.net --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Good hollidays
Hi. Thanks for those marry wishes, and right back at ya. - Original Message - From: Claudio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 6:06 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Good hollidays Hello gamers! I wish you good hollidays with so much gifts! And for the new year, good gaming! Regards, Claudio. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] top speed 2 cars and tracks
Hi. I have a site for cars, most of which I made myself. I think there's about 14 of them by now. This page don't fall into the category you want, but it's a start http://aarontech.randylaptop.com/games/sims/topspeed if that link doesn't work, use this http://aarontech.randylaptop.com and browse the site till you find the topspeed page. regards - Original Message - From: Tyler Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 6:50 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] top speed 2 cars and tracks Well, I can always put the top speed cars up on my ftp site- I have most of them and then some, I think. If you want me to, let me know. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Audyssey] Copyrighted material
rofl, hmm houdy tyler, er, long time no see? Oh, hey everyone else too while we're on the subject, I just joined. *waves marrily at everyone and shouts 'Marry christmas!'* - Original Message - From: Tyler Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 2:40 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Copyrighted material Oh, wow. I can just imagine it. Good loard... stupid website isn't working, i have to take that off my signature, *G'g'g'g'gr'r'r'r'ro''o'o'o'o'o'w'w'w'ww'w''l'l'l'l'l'l* sorry for those of you who weren't using elequence, but that sounds kind of cool. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
