Re: [Audyssey] Who's afraid of Objective C?

2013-06-09 Thread Michael Taboada
08, 2013 8:36 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Who's afraid of Objective C? Michael, Most of the time, you don't even have to do that. Objective-C++ files, with the extension .mm, can more or less mix and match C++ and Objective-C code at will, provided that any Objective-C

Re: [Audyssey] Who's afraid of Objective C?

2013-06-08 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Cara, I think as far as myself is concerned I'm not so much apposed to learning or using Objective C, but that I'd have to literally rewrite all of my games etc from scratch to use it. Since I have software in Python, some in C++, etc I don't like having to rewrite them in Objective C just

Re: [Audyssey] Who's afraid of Objective C?

2013-06-08 Thread Michael Taboada
and use it as normal. Hth, -Michael. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 6:04 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Who's afraid of Objective C? Hi Cara, I think as far as myself is concerned I'm not so much apposed to learning or using

Re: [Audyssey] Who's afraid of Objective C?

2013-06-08 Thread Draconis
Hi Tom, Your statement below seems like you're a bit confused. There's nothing stopping you from developing with C++ on Apple platforms. In fact, you can even use Objective-C++ which allows you to mix and match C++ and Objective-C at will, giving you the best of both worlds if that is

Re: [Audyssey] Who's afraid of Objective C?

2013-06-08 Thread Draconis
the struct pointer to the class type and use it as normal. Hth, -Michael. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 6:04 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Who's afraid of Objective C? Hi Cara, I think as far as myself is concerned

Re: [Audyssey] Who's afraid of Objective C?

2013-06-08 Thread Draconis
Hi Liam, Xcode is really a pretty nice IDE. It looks scary the first time you dive in, no doubt…but once you really learn all the ins and outs, it is comfortable to work in. Having used various versions of Visual Studio 6 through VS.net 2010, I definitely prefer Xcode, but that's largely more

Re: [Audyssey] Who's afraid of Objective C?

2013-06-08 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Michael, I don't doubt what you are saying, but I guess I'd have to see some sample code. I don't know enough about Objective C to write a wrapper around my existing code so would need a helper in order to port certain games etc to iOS. It still makes me slightly cranky I can't just take a

Re: [Audyssey] Who's afraid of Objective C?

2013-06-08 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Josh, Well, I can say Visual Studio hasn't improved any since 2012 has come out. If anything it is worse than ever, and Visual Studio Express 2012 is all but inaccessible to a screen reader. At least as far as NVDA is concerned so I've been looking at alternatives too. For example, for a

Re: [Audyssey] Who's afraid of Objective C?

2013-06-08 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Josh, Point taken. Although, from what I've read iOS requires that the apps have to be written in Objective C or an Objective C wrapper needs to be written around existing C++ code to make it work. If I'm wrong about that then OK, but I wasn't aware I could port a project written in Python,

Re: [Audyssey] Who's afraid of Objective C?

2013-06-08 Thread Cara Quinn
Hi Thomas, but Apple didn't. YOu can code for iOS in C++ natively as well. XCode automatically sets up all the Objective C you'll need for the project then with that you can certainly use C++ if you like, with really no effort at all. Am I understanding your note / point correctly? You're not

Re: [Audyssey] Who's afraid of Objective C?

2013-06-08 Thread Cara Quinn
Well, I should have waited to respond! Thanks Josh, you and Michael certainly jumped in here! Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jun 8, 2013, at 6:28 AM, Draconis i...@dracoent.com

Re: [Audyssey] Who's afraid of Objective C?

2013-06-08 Thread Cara Quinn
Absolutely! While I too have my little gripes with XCode, I must say that the incredible level of accessibility and the fact that it's one app which enables you to do all Mac / iOS development for anything from a Hello World app to corporate level software etc is awesome to me! I think that's

Re: [Audyssey] Who's afraid of Objective C?

2013-06-08 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Cara, Well, I see I was wrong about C++, but what about other languages like Java, Python, etc? Can those apps and games be ported to iOS as well, or do they have to be converted to Objective C? Let's suppose I have written a Blackjack game in say Python 2.7.5. What would I have to do to make

Re: [Audyssey] Who's afraid of Objective C?

2013-06-08 Thread Cara Quinn
Hi Thomas, yes, the idea that an app needs to be written in Objective C or that a wrapper needs to be written is not true. I'm working on a project right now which is really mostly C++. As others have mentioned, it is possible to use both languages not only in the same project, or in the same

Re: [Audyssey] Who's afraid of Objective C?

2013-06-08 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Cara, Not only that, but XCode doesn't cost a small fortune to use either. If you want Visual Studio Pro you'd be paying out $600 the last time I checked. The IDEs for Mac and Linux are far more affordable in my experience. :D Cheers! On 6/8/13, Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote:

Re: [Audyssey] Who's afraid of Objective C?

2013-06-08 Thread Cara Quinn
Hi Thomas, I haven't worked with Java and Python on iOS but I'll sure look this up as I'm very curious. I'm sure you can do it but I don't have any word for you on it just now. Will let ya know when I know more. Talk soon and have a great day! Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at:

Re: [Audyssey] Who's afraid of Objective C?

2013-06-08 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Cara, Thanks for the site. I'll check it out when I get a chance. Although, I doubt I'll do much with it until I get a Mac to work with.. Cheers! On 6/8/13, Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com wrote: Hi Thomas, yes, the idea that an app needs to be written in Objective C or that a wrapper

Re: [Audyssey] Who's afraid of Objective C?

2013-06-08 Thread Dakotah Rickard
All of this, of course, is tremendously interesting to me. I really would love to get into App development at some point. Signed: Dakotah Rickard On 6/8/13, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Cara, Thanks for the site. I'll check it out when I get a chance. Although, I doubt I'll

[Audyssey] Who's afraid of Objective C?

2013-06-07 Thread Cara Quinn
Hey you guys, I say this with love, but if y'all would put the energy you're spending complaining about learning Objective C into actually starting to learn Objective C then I think you'll find that it's really not that hard! *warm smile* Just to give a really quick intro to the language; •

Re: [Audyssey] Who's afraid of Objective C?

2013-06-07 Thread Liam Erven
I'm so glad I can look at that and have it not look like greek to me. Objective C still frightens me, but... well... Gotta jump in some time right? I think what is more frightening is Xcode itself. But take some time to learn it first guys. then complain. On 6/7/13, Cara Quinn

Re: [Audyssey] Who's afraid of Objective C?

2013-06-07 Thread Ken The PionEar
,) or write me at kenwdow...@me.com . Crazy Ken - Original Message - From: Liam Erven liamer...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 3:30 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Who's afraid of Objective C? I'm so glad I can look at that and have it not look

Re: [Audyssey] Who's afraid of Objective C?

2013-06-07 Thread Cara Quinn
Lol! Awesome Liam! :) To be completely honest, when I first looked at Objective C syntax I really didn't like it. I was used to more straight C / Java / C++ syntax so seeing all the brackets enclosing method calls really kind of turned me off. C++ seemed a lot more concise to me. However,

Re: [Audyssey] Who's afraid of Objective C?

2013-06-07 Thread Willem Venter
Hi all. I actually agree with everyone on this thread. Objective C is a very good language and it is well thought out. I have to add here that I do not have that much experience in using it though. I think what also puts off some people is that there is no clear divition between function calls and