Re: [Audyssey] mobile games was Re: the touch screen of i devices - Re:LWorks
Well I have a friend that works in an a school environment. A blind student was using an ipad his teacher wanted him to use a laptop because a touch screen was not accessable. My family even say a touch screen is inaccessable for me even though at least for the iphone its not totally the case or even the droids. Part of that is ignorance, and part of it is face value. I mean when you are blind a screen is just a blank thing just like paper is. As a joke in restorant or cafes I will often pretend to read the menu just to make the sighted people laugh and mysefl. One of these days though I wander if I could read the menus or hear them in audio or something like that. s At 01:43 p.m. 22/04/2012 +0100, you wrote: My brother uses an Ipad a great deal, but for any extensive typing makes use of a fold out keyboard which he also carries, which seems the sensible thing to do to me, afterall while there are advantages to using a touch screen, there's no point using it for everything! just because it's there. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Tom Randall kf6...@comcast.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 8:33 PM Subject: [Audyssey] mobile games was Re: the touch screen of i devices - Re:LWorks Hi all. I have no problem with the touch screne interface however I do still prefer a real keyboard for extensive typing both on my Droid4 and my Ipad. As for mobile games, I saw a review of gaming on mobile devices on G4 recently and their consensus was that, with a few exceptions most games for things like iphones and ipads and Android devices are generally designed for quick gaming on the go, you are not going to see these deep complex games that you are going to spend hours and hours playing. Rather they are going for the people who want to play something for ten minutes or 20 minutes and then put it back down for a while. As I said there are exceptions to this but I do agree with their assessment from what I've seen of mobile gaming so far. Their conclusion was that if you want more in depth complex games on a mobile platform you are better off with something like one of the Nintendo or Sony portable systems. This is not to say that mobile games are bad, it simply depends on what your gaming tastes happen to be. Myself I am usually looking for something to play while I am sitting at a bus stop or on a bus or train or during other downtime. So I actually can enjoy something fairly simple like Hearstrike or Naval Combat. If I want something a little closer to a console experience I can always get out my psp which I usually have with me. One thing I intend to buy from the Google playstore probably this weekend is an Atari 2600 emulator, it is based on the Stella emulator so should hopefully work pretty well. They only want around 3 bucks for it so it's definitely worth the risk. This is one situation where having both the touch screne and a hardware keyboard is going to be pretty necessary, I am pretty sure that playing the old games trying to use just the touch screne would be very difficult for us to manage if we could do so at all. I will let you guys know how this emulator works out. Game on. Tom -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 11:14 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the touch screen of i devices - Re: LWorks If I could get an iPhone that used raised buttons or keys, I would get it. However, I have no problem with the current iPhones 4S. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the touch screen of i devices - Re: LWorks Precisely. I could never go back to a push button phone, particularly not in view of the fact that I'd have to pay extra for te screen reader or download a free and, to be qite frank, less satisfactory alternative. As far as games go I haven't yet found any games for mobile devices that really interested me so that's not an issue. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 11:39 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] the touch screen of i devices - Re: LWorks It's a learning curve for sure, but I've managed it. Think of the touch screen like operating a PC. The first time you touch something, it is highlighted. Double tap on the screen and it is activated. Touching different areas of the screen once will not activate them, it's like arrowing to what you want on a PC. Other gestures which you use are triple tapping quickly, swiping with 1 through 4 fingers up or down, left or right. Once you get used to doing it, it's OK. You can also highlight, continue holding and tap
Re: [Audyssey] mobile games was Re: the touch screen of i devices - Re: LWorks
Hi again everyone. Well as promised here is an update on the Atari 2600 emulator for Android. Unfortunately the news is not all that good although not entirely hopeless. I of course got the app from the google playstore and it ran me 3 bucks. I downloaded and installed it, made sure my roms were in place on my sd card and started the emulator. Now for the bad news. Like these emulators on just about any system once you actually get into the emulator any accessibility tools you are using are not going to work at all. Furthermore, trying to open a rom directly from the Android equivalent of Windows explorer did not achieve anything useful. This is actually how I use Stella on my desktop pc as that too is inaccessible once you start it and I was hoping to do something similar with this one. After trying to get the thing going for a few minutes I reluctantly got my money back from the Playstore. I have written to the developer and explained the problem and asked if he has any ideas on how to at least get roms up and running. He has not responded to me as yet so this project is on hold for now. So, that's where this stands at the moment, if I had been willing to not get the 3 bucks back I might have fooled with the program for longer, however Google in their infinite wisdom has limited the time you can get a refund to 15 minutes which does not give you much time to fool around. If there are any further updates to this I will let you guys know. Game on. Tom -Original Message- From: Tom Randall Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 12:33 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: mobile games was Re: [Audyssey] the touch screen of i devices - Re: LWorks Hi all. I have no problem with the touch screne interface however I do still prefer a real keyboard for extensive typing both on my Droid4 and my Ipad. As for mobile games, I saw a review of gaming on mobile devices on G4 recently and their consensus was that, with a few exceptions most games for things like iphones and ipads and Android devices are generally designed for quick gaming on the go, you are not going to see these deep complex games that you are going to spend hours and hours playing. Rather they are going for the people who want to play something for ten minutes or 20 minutes and then put it back down for a while. As I said there are exceptions to this but I do agree with their assessment from what I've seen of mobile gaming so far. Their conclusion was that if you want more in depth complex games on a mobile platform you are better off with something like one of the Nintendo or Sony portable systems. This is not to say that mobile games are bad, it simply depends on what your gaming tastes happen to be. Myself I am usually looking for something to play while I am sitting at a bus stop or on a bus or train or during other downtime. So I actually can enjoy something fairly simple like Hearstrike or Naval Combat. If I want something a little closer to a console experience I can always get out my psp which I usually have with me. One thing I intend to buy from the Google playstore probably this weekend is an Atari 2600 emulator, it is based on the Stella emulator so should hopefully work pretty well. They only want around 3 bucks for it so it's definitely worth the risk. This is one situation where having both the touch screne and a hardware keyboard is going to be pretty necessary, I am pretty sure that playing the old games trying to use just the touch screne would be very difficult for us to manage if we could do so at all. I will let you guys know how this emulator works out. Game on. Tom --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mobile games was Re: the touch screen of i devices - Re:LWorks
My brother uses an Ipad a great deal, but for any extensive typing makes use of a fold out keyboard which he also carries, which seems the sensible thing to do to me, afterall while there are advantages to using a touch screen, there's no point using it for everything! just because it's there. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Tom Randall kf6...@comcast.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 8:33 PM Subject: [Audyssey] mobile games was Re: the touch screen of i devices - Re:LWorks Hi all. I have no problem with the touch screne interface however I do still prefer a real keyboard for extensive typing both on my Droid4 and my Ipad. As for mobile games, I saw a review of gaming on mobile devices on G4 recently and their consensus was that, with a few exceptions most games for things like iphones and ipads and Android devices are generally designed for quick gaming on the go, you are not going to see these deep complex games that you are going to spend hours and hours playing. Rather they are going for the people who want to play something for ten minutes or 20 minutes and then put it back down for a while. As I said there are exceptions to this but I do agree with their assessment from what I've seen of mobile gaming so far. Their conclusion was that if you want more in depth complex games on a mobile platform you are better off with something like one of the Nintendo or Sony portable systems. This is not to say that mobile games are bad, it simply depends on what your gaming tastes happen to be. Myself I am usually looking for something to play while I am sitting at a bus stop or on a bus or train or during other downtime. So I actually can enjoy something fairly simple like Hearstrike or Naval Combat. If I want something a little closer to a console experience I can always get out my psp which I usually have with me. One thing I intend to buy from the Google playstore probably this weekend is an Atari 2600 emulator, it is based on the Stella emulator so should hopefully work pretty well. They only want around 3 bucks for it so it's definitely worth the risk. This is one situation where having both the touch screne and a hardware keyboard is going to be pretty necessary, I am pretty sure that playing the old games trying to use just the touch screne would be very difficult for us to manage if we could do so at all. I will let you guys know how this emulator works out. Game on. Tom -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 11:14 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the touch screen of i devices - Re: LWorks If I could get an iPhone that used raised buttons or keys, I would get it. However, I have no problem with the current iPhones 4S. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the touch screen of i devices - Re: LWorks Precisely. I could never go back to a push button phone, particularly not in view of the fact that I'd have to pay extra for te screen reader or download a free and, to be qite frank, less satisfactory alternative. As far as games go I haven't yet found any games for mobile devices that really interested me so that's not an issue. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 11:39 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] the touch screen of i devices - Re: LWorks It's a learning curve for sure, but I've managed it. Think of the touch screen like operating a PC. The first time you touch something, it is highlighted. Double tap on the screen and it is activated. Touching different areas of the screen once will not activate them, it's like arrowing to what you want on a PC. Other gestures which you use are triple tapping quickly, swiping with 1 through 4 fingers up or down, left or right. Once you get used to doing it, it's OK. You can also highlight, continue holding and tap elsewhere. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Damien Pendleton dam...@blunderfield.plus.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks Hi Thomas, Well, if there are going to be games for the mobile market, I'd love to see some for Nokia devices running Simbian. More and more games are coming out for IOS devices and it'd be nice to see some for devices that are more accessible. Sure, Apple try and do the voiceover app, but when I tried an IPhone it was pointless and useless since the interface was purely all touch screen. How other blind people manage
Re: [Audyssey] mobile games was Re: the touch screen of i devices - Re:LWorks
Hi Dark, sure. As I just said to Charles a second ago I think we'll see a coexistence between keyboards and touchscreens as a touchscreen can't do everything and a keyboard can't do everything either. So we will see a mixture of the two on future devices. On 4/22/2012 8:43 AM, dark wrote: My brother uses an Ipad a great deal, but for any extensive typing makes use of a fold out keyboard which he also carries, which seems the sensible thing to do to me, afterall while there are advantages to using a touch screen, there's no point using it for everything! just because it's there. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] mobile games was Re: the touch screen of i devices - Re: LWorks
Hi all. I have no problem with the touch screne interface however I do still prefer a real keyboard for extensive typing both on my Droid4 and my Ipad. As for mobile games, I saw a review of gaming on mobile devices on G4 recently and their consensus was that, with a few exceptions most games for things like iphones and ipads and Android devices are generally designed for quick gaming on the go, you are not going to see these deep complex games that you are going to spend hours and hours playing. Rather they are going for the people who want to play something for ten minutes or 20 minutes and then put it back down for a while. As I said there are exceptions to this but I do agree with their assessment from what I've seen of mobile gaming so far. Their conclusion was that if you want more in depth complex games on a mobile platform you are better off with something like one of the Nintendo or Sony portable systems. This is not to say that mobile games are bad, it simply depends on what your gaming tastes happen to be. Myself I am usually looking for something to play while I am sitting at a bus stop or on a bus or train or during other downtime. So I actually can enjoy something fairly simple like Hearstrike or Naval Combat. If I want something a little closer to a console experience I can always get out my psp which I usually have with me. One thing I intend to buy from the Google playstore probably this weekend is an Atari 2600 emulator, it is based on the Stella emulator so should hopefully work pretty well. They only want around 3 bucks for it so it's definitely worth the risk. This is one situation where having both the touch screne and a hardware keyboard is going to be pretty necessary, I am pretty sure that playing the old games trying to use just the touch screne would be very difficult for us to manage if we could do so at all. I will let you guys know how this emulator works out. Game on. Tom -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 11:14 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the touch screen of i devices - Re: LWorks If I could get an iPhone that used raised buttons or keys, I would get it. However, I have no problem with the current iPhones 4S. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] the touch screen of i devices - Re: LWorks Precisely. I could never go back to a push button phone, particularly not in view of the fact that I'd have to pay extra for te screen reader or download a free and, to be qite frank, less satisfactory alternative. As far as games go I haven't yet found any games for mobile devices that really interested me so that's not an issue. Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 11:39 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] the touch screen of i devices - Re: LWorks It's a learning curve for sure, but I've managed it. Think of the touch screen like operating a PC. The first time you touch something, it is highlighted. Double tap on the screen and it is activated. Touching different areas of the screen once will not activate them, it's like arrowing to what you want on a PC. Other gestures which you use are triple tapping quickly, swiping with 1 through 4 fingers up or down, left or right. Once you get used to doing it, it's OK. You can also highlight, continue holding and tap elsewhere. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Damien Pendleton dam...@blunderfield.plus.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks Hi Thomas, Well, if there are going to be games for the mobile market, I'd love to see some for Nokia devices running Simbian. More and more games are coming out for IOS devices and it'd be nice to see some for devices that are more accessible. Sure, Apple try and do the voiceover app, but when I tried an IPhone it was pointless and useless since the interface was purely all touch screen. How other blind people manage with it is beyond me and goes straight over my head. I tried it for two weeks before I got impatient with it so I went back to the lovely button operated Nokia and Talks setup again. I'd support Simbian myself, but looks like it's a trek down C++ lane, which doesn't sound appealing. Regards, Damien. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks Hi Damien, That's hard to say. For one thing there are developers who write iOS
Re: [Audyssey] mobile games
my mobile is a symbian 9.3 device. unfortunatly. a nokia n85 in particular. sorry, forgot to put that in. regards dallas - Original Message - From: Ken kenwdow...@neo.rr.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 6:22 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mobile games I have compiled a pack of over 60 games for windows mobile 2003. It's at www.braillesoft.net--look for Ken's Games under pac mate software. Do you live near Sandusky Ohio, or are you planning a trip to Cedar Point? Receive a massage at very competitive rates--$40 per hour for a revitalizing therapeutic massage, $65 per house call--any time, anywhere (within reason.) Call 419-577-7973 I'll ease your pain and discomfort, loosen and mobilize your stiff joints, relax your achy muscles, and help you let go of stress, depression, and nervous anxiety... Ken Downey, LMT President of Blind Comfort! The Caring Without the Staring and DreamtechInteractive - Original Message - From: Dallas O'Brien dallas.r.obr...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 10:27 PM Subject: [Audyssey] mobile games hi all. just trying to hunt down some mobile games that are accessible. there doesn't seem to be much around, unless i am missing a load somehow. any ideas would be fantastic. regards dallas --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mobile games
Mobile games, played using what device? You might check for games and software at the Braille Soft Inc. http://www.braillesoft.net --- Shepherds are the best beasts. - Original Message - From: Dallas O'Brien dallas.r.obr...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 7:27 PM Subject: [Audyssey] mobile games hi all. just trying to hunt down some mobile games that are accessible. there doesn't seem to be much around, unless i am missing a load somehow. any ideas would be fantastic. regards dallas --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] mobile games
hi all. just trying to hunt down some mobile games that are accessible. there doesn't seem to be much around, unless i am missing a load somehow. any ideas would be fantastic. regards dallas --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
