Re: [Audyssey] dosbox and linux

2013-06-19 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, I'm afraid not. Dosbox isn't accessible on any platform with any screen reader unless you install a Dos screen reader and hardware synth into Dosbox. The only way to run Dos programs on Linux with any degree of access is Dosemu passing it a couple of switches to run it as a dum terminal

Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are!

2013-06-19 Thread Phil Vlasak
Hi Josh, All of the DOS games you described were developed by me and Carl when we were known as Personal Computer Systems. I don't mind you distributing the games as they never had registratio keys to keep people from copying themn and giving them out to friends. The instructions file did state

Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are!

2013-06-19 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ron, I've been looking at rewriting some of my favorite Dos games in Python so they would be cross-platform, and be available for a modern PC running say Windows 7, but I wouldn't do it without Phil's personal go ahead as they still belong to PCS games as far as I am concerned. Cheers! On

Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are!

2013-06-19 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ron, No. Something you need to understand is that newer 64-bit processors and 64-bit operating systems such as Windows 7 are not able to execute 8-bit and 16-bit programs without some virtual emulation layer like Dosbox, Dosemu, etc. So unfortunately these games are out of the question. On

Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are!

2013-06-19 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Josh, As far as I know there is no laptop layout for Speakup. The only way to get one or create one is by editing the hex codes for your keyboard map file, and recompiling the kernel which is probably more work than you want to do in order to have a keyboard map file that uses the capslock key

Re: [Audyssey] TV baseball broadcasts - Re: nfl football and baseball

2013-06-19 Thread James Bartlett
hI there Yes I do agry with that. I think that the Radio is a better way to follow baseball, but I always did think that. Even be for I went blind. bfn James -- From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 12:34 PM

Re: [Audyssey] dosbox and linux

2013-06-19 Thread Josh Kennedy
so what do you think is the best way to play these old games? linux with dosemu or a windows xp vm? On 6/19/2013 4:04 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Shaun, I'm afraid not. Dosbox isn't accessible on any platform with any screen reader unless you install a Dos screen reader and hardware synth into

Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are!

2013-06-19 Thread Josh Kennedy
hmmm, looks like my options are windows xp with NVDA in a virtual machine, linux with dosemu but no sound, or save my money, get a doubletalk and USB to serial converter and a demo of asap screen reader. in the meantime since I don't have the money to spend it looks like i'll be going the

Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are!

2013-06-19 Thread Josh Kennedy
plans for any night football thomas? On 6/19/2013 7:19 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Ron, I've been looking at rewriting some of my favorite Dos games in Python so they would be cross-platform, and be available for a modern PC running say Windows 7, but I wouldn't do it without Phil's personal go

Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are!

2013-06-19 Thread Josh Kennedy
well perhaps if jim kitchen took some ideas for his next nfl football game from the any night football read-me file added more plays and things that would be cool. but of course its jim's game and if he did add more plays using ideas from any night football it would be fun also because he

Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are!

2013-06-19 Thread Josh Kennedy
well since there is no laptop keyboard layout i'll be using orca with it then. On 6/19/2013 7:29 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Josh, As far as I know there is no laptop layout for Speakup. The only way to get one or create one is by editing the hex codes for your keyboard map file, and

Re: [Audyssey] dosbox and linux

2013-06-19 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Josh, Well, personally I think a Windows XP virtual machine is the best solution for playing these old games. I am saying that both as a Windows user and a Linux user. Reason being that Dosbox isn't accessible on any platform, and while Dosemu works on Linux I've never been able to get it to

Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are!

2013-06-19 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Josh, That's about the size of it. :D On 6/19/13, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: hmmm, looks like my options are windows xp with NVDA in a virtual machine, linux with dosemu but no sound, or save my money, get a doubletalk and USB to serial converter and a demo of asap screen

Re: [Audyssey] dosbox and linux

2013-06-19 Thread Josh Kennedy
ok i'll do that then. my friend jason has a windows xp vm i can use and get from him. On 6/19/2013 11:10 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Josh, Well, personally I think a Windows XP virtual machine is the best solution for playing these old games. I am saying that both as a Windows user and a Linux

Re: [Audyssey] dosbox and linux

2013-06-19 Thread lenron brown
how can i get an xp vm On 6/19/13, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Josh, Well, personally I think a Windows XP virtual machine is the best solution for playing these old games. I am saying that both as a Windows user and a Linux user. Reason being that Dosbox isn't accessible

Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are!

2013-06-19 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Josh, Well, I can't speak for Jim, but I can say I've been thinking of a football game similar to Any Night Football myself. While I like Jim's football game well enough it doesn't offer enough plays to suit me, and the artificial intelligence does make some really dumb plays from time to

Re: [Audyssey] dosbox and linux

2013-06-19 Thread Josh Kennedy
i think all you'll need is a windows xp home vm. and i think xp home is no longer supported anyway. but i could be wrong. On 6/19/2013 11:18 AM, lenron brown wrote: how can i get an xp vm On 6/19/13, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Josh, Well, personally I think a Windows XP

Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are!

2013-06-19 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Josh, Well, not using that name exactly, but I had something like Any Night Football in mind for a while now. Obviously, if I wrote it the game would be called USA Football. :D On 6/19/13, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: plans for any night football thomas? --- Gamers mailing

Re: [Audyssey] dosbox and linux

2013-06-19 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Lenron, That is a bit more complicated than I can discuss at any length in this email, but the basic idea is this. You download a free copy of VMWare Player for your platform from http://www.vmware.com, register it, and then you take your old Windows XP CD and install it into VMWare Player.

Re: [Audyssey] dosbox and linux

2013-06-19 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Josh, Actually, I believe XP Home is supported until April 2014. However, as I have XP Pro, not Home in a virtual machine, I'm not sure about Home's support status. On 6/19/13, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: i think all you'll need is a windows xp home vm. and i think xp home is

Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are!

2013-06-19 Thread Josh Kennedy
i guess until then i'll play any night football in a windows xp vm. On 6/19/2013 11:27 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Josh, Well, not using that name exactly, but I had something like Any Night Football in mind for a while now. Obviously, if I wrote it the game would be called USA Football. :D On

Re: [Audyssey] dosbox and linux

2013-06-19 Thread Josh Kennedy
no actually installing the windows xp vm requires no help at all. because vmware player will do an unattended install for you. On 6/19/2013 11:34 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Lenron, That is a bit more complicated than I can discuss at any length in this email, but the basic idea is this. You

Re: [Audyssey] dosbox and linux

2013-06-19 Thread lenron brown
now to find my xp copy On 6/19/13, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Josh, Actually, I believe XP Home is supported until April 2014. However, as I have XP Pro, not Home in a virtual machine, I'm not sure about Home's support status. On 6/19/13, Josh Kennedy

Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are!

2013-06-19 Thread Desiree Oudinot
Hi, I was wary of responding to this topic until we heard from the developers of the original games. Since we have, I'll ask my question. The shooting range isn't part of the package of games you provided, at least not that I've seen. Do you have it? that was my favorite PCS title. I never bought

Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are!

2013-06-19 Thread Josh Kennedy
I looked through all of jason's disks and could not find the shooting range game. sorry. I wish I had found that one though. On 6/19/2013 3:09 PM, Desiree Oudinot wrote: Hi, I was wary of responding to this topic until we heard from the developers of the original games. Since we have, I'll ask

Re: [Audyssey] dosbox and linux

2013-06-19 Thread shaun everiss
well my plan was to get an xp vm but after trialing the xp mode vm with vmware I as not impressed. I have the ram for it but it lagged something terrible and external device access was just not on, real slow. There are several ways. 1. play through dosemu with a vinux or other vm yes this

Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are!

2013-06-19 Thread shaun everiss
well josh if you can aquire a keynote gold or other external synth, then you could use dosbox directly. its only for us software speech junkies that dosbox won't work and I think there are even usb synths these days. jaws for dos is free and well if you do manage to get an external synth then

[Audyssey] dos games

2013-06-19 Thread Josh Kennedy
well guys I tried, the links for the old pcs dos games no longer work. unfortunately I cannot get shoot97, cops98 and some others. the links don't work anymore. Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org.

Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are!

2013-06-19 Thread Phil Vlasak
hi Desiree, My DOS Shoot game uses the PC speaker for targeting, so even a virtual xp computer might not have a working pc speaker. I am planning to create a similar game for windows using the GMA game engine. I can't say when it will be finished. Phil - Original Message - From:

Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are!

2013-06-19 Thread Phil Vlasak
Hi Josh, Any Night Football is very close to Jim Kitchen's football game. The two major differences is that it had real player's stats from the 1988 season and that it had more choices for offence and defense. I didn't want to develop a windows version since I didn't think anyone would purchase a

Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are!

2013-06-19 Thread Josh Kennedy
yeah its too bad espeak can't be made to work in dosbox. make a dos screen reader like asap use maybe an accent on com3 then have something outside dosbox intercept and listen on that port and redirect it to espeak and convert the accent codes to something espeak understands. Josh On

Re: [Audyssey] dosbox and linux

2013-06-19 Thread shaun everiss
well you can get the xp mode but to be honest I was not happy with its performance I gave it 2tgb of ram and it still hated me. Maybe its partly because I have a win7 32 bit os, and technically I guess I don't need it but whatever. I still do want one. What really gets me is that vmware

Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are!

2013-06-19 Thread Josh Kennedy
yes true. Well as soon as I get a windows xp vm set up here then I can play any night football and some of the other games. On 6/19/2013 3:38 PM, Phil Vlasak wrote: Hi Josh, Any Night Football is very close to Jim Kitchen's football game. The two major differences is that it had real player's

Re: [Audyssey] dosbox and linux

2013-06-19 Thread shaun everiss
Where do I pull the images and codes for running an xp vm I was not happy with the xp mode vm in vmware at all. My only choice is to get xp however before I go the pirating root since we are on the end of a support cycle I am actually interested in people's old cds and licences for their xps

Re: [Audyssey] dosbox and linux

2013-06-19 Thread Josh Kennedy
windows xp in vmware player seems tow work fine for me if i give it 1gb of ram. On 6/19/2013 3:39 PM, shaun everiss wrote: Where do I pull the images and codes for running an xp vm I was not happy with the xp mode vm in vmware at all. My only choice is to get xp however before I go the

Re: [Audyssey] dosbox and linux

2013-06-19 Thread Josh Kennedy
maybe xp only works good on 64bit machines in a vm? I bet I could find a windows95 or windows98 laptop on ebay for pretty cheap that would work. and they still sell doubletalks with serial ports. but i'd rather have software speech in dos like with espeak. On 6/19/2013 3:42 PM, shaun everiss

Re: [Audyssey] dosbox and linux

2013-06-19 Thread shaun everiss
hmmm. yeah I need a reall copy of xp then and not the xp mode crap ms has. At 07:47 AM 6/20/2013, you wrote: windows xp in vmware player seems tow work fine for me if i give it 1gb of ram. On 6/19/2013 3:39 PM, shaun everiss wrote: Where do I pull the images and codes for running an xp vm I

Re: [Audyssey] dosbox and linux

2013-06-19 Thread shaun everiss
well I guess on 64 bit it would work. you could pull 3gb of ram from your 8 or so gb and run things like that. its more to do that I am running a 32 bit os in a 32 bit environment well 2 of them that may be my issue. I really don't have a need for much more power though. At 07:50 AM 6/20/2013,

Re: [Audyssey] dosbox and linux

2013-06-19 Thread Josh Kennedy
yes xp mode is krappy. On 6/19/2013 3:51 PM, shaun everiss wrote: hmmm. yeah I need a reall copy of xp then and not the xp mode crap ms has. At 07:47 AM 6/20/2013, you wrote: windows xp in vmware player seems tow work fine for me if i give it 1gb of ram. On 6/19/2013 3:39 PM, shaun everiss

Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are!

2013-06-19 Thread Desiree Oudinot
Ah well. Thanks for looking, I appreciate it. On 6/19/13, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: I looked through all of jason's disks and could not find the shooting range game. sorry. I wish I had found that one though. On 6/19/2013 3:09 PM, Desiree Oudinot wrote: Hi, I was wary of

Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are!

2013-06-19 Thread Desiree Oudinot
Hi, I dragged out an old machine that's running Windows XP. It does have a PC speaker. I think it was purchased in 2002. I remember playing the demos of your games previously on it, and the PC speaker worked. The only thing I have to do to get this machine up and running again is to replace the

Re: [Audyssey] old dos games here they are!

2013-06-19 Thread Ron Kolesar
Well then. We'll just have to wait until Phil has the time to get his cops and robers game up and running. Since he was saying that he was planning on taking the old cops games and the old classic favorite shoting gallory gams and murging them together for a brand new adventure. So thanks for

[Audyssey] cheats or easter eggs jim's games

2013-06-19 Thread Josh Kennedy
hi everyone, are there any cheats or easter eggs in jim's games like football or baseball that you found? I think it would be cool if sometimes when I run the ball out if they could run all the way and make a touchdown sometimes. josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you

Re: [Audyssey] cheats or easter eggs jim's games

2013-06-19 Thread James Bartlett
Hello I don't know, but that would be cool if they did. bfn James -- From: Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 6:48 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] cheats or easter eggs

Re: [Audyssey] dos games

2013-06-19 Thread Lisa Hayes
what about fox and hounds. from someone Ann moris enterprises sold it. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:36 AM Subject:

[Audyssey] dos games work

2013-06-19 Thread Josh Kennedy
hey everyone all the old dos games work great in windows xp. NVDA works the best for a screen reader to play the old dos games. for the games vm, email me at joshknnd1...@gmail.com and we can find a way to get the custom vm with dos games over to whoever wishes to have them. the vm with custom

Re: [Audyssey] dos games

2013-06-19 Thread Josh Kennedy
that is in the zip file also. On 6/19/2013 8:13 PM, Lisa Hayes wrote: what about fox and hounds. from someone Ann moris enterprises sold it. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list

Re: [Audyssey] dos games work

2013-06-19 Thread James Bartlett
Hello how does jaws work with it? bfn James -- From: Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:01 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] dos games work hey everyone all the old dos

Re: [Audyssey] dos games work

2013-06-19 Thread Josh Kennedy
nvda only works with it. On 6/19/2013 11:16 PM, James Bartlett wrote: Hello how does jaws work with it? bfn James -- From: Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:01 PM To: Gamers Discussion list