Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA
Hi Ishan, Let's get something straight. Weather you intended to or not I find your posts regarding this matter both rude and a little irritating. I've already explained why hiring another developer would be impractical, but my explanation seems to have gone in one ear and out the other. Either that or you just aren't listening to a word I say so I will explain it again. Hopefully, in language you can understand. I can not and will not share USA Games with another game developer for the simple fact there is little money to be made in splitting it 50/50 with another person. I've already stated before there is not much money to be made off of creating and selling audio games, and by splitting it 50/50 with another person I'd essentially be getting half of what I could have gotten on my own. At a certain point my supposed partner and I wouldn't make enough off the games to make it worthwhile. There would be no financial incentive in developing audio games to bother with it from a commercial standpoint. So I wouldn't be doing myself or my partner any favors by such an arrangement. As for getting a lone I wouldn't qualify for one right now given my financial circumstances. Even if I could I wouldn't because I would be that much further in debt. My goal for the next few months is to pay my debts off, to get myself out of debt, and recover financially. I'd have to be insane to add to my debt by taking out a lone right now. So its not even remotely a consideration accept for an extreme emergency That is assuming I could even get a lone to begin with. Finally, as for you wanting the full version of Mysteries of the Ancients join the club. So do a lot of other people but pressuring me, riding my back like a horse with a saddle, and constantly requesting a full release will not make that happen any time soon. I have personal issues that need to get resolved before that happens, and no amount of pressuring me, wining, complaining, etc will make that happen. So just deal with it. Get off my back. For what it is worth I have started writing up a new release schedule, a new time table for the new beta release of Mysteries of the Ancients, but it is tentative at best. Besides, I have a feeling no matter what schedule I create it won't satisfy you, and you'll just wine and complain because you expect things to be done according to some unrealistic schedule. I'm not Merlin the Magician, and can't wave my magic wand in the air and make a game appear out of nowhere. It will take me months to catch up the backlog of work on Mysteries of the ancients so it is better for you and I both if you just wait patiently for things to get done when they get done. P.S. My name is not Champion. I would appreciate it if you stop calling me that. On 10/16/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi champion! why you shouldn't give your company to an another person to someone and sign an agreement of 50 50 Maybe it will help. as you are saying that you broke all your savings. Why can you apply for a cheap lone? I think If you have another person which maybe your employee can help you emotionally also. So champion go for it! I want mota mota mota in full version. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA
Thomas HOw are you so patient with this pest/ ban him moderate him but for f...'s sake get rid of him or i'll forget i'm a lady and tell him what i think of him and blieve me you'll be putting out brush fires when and if that happ;ens. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Hi Ishan, Let's get something straight. Weather you intended to or not I find your posts regarding this matter both rude and a little irritating. I've already explained why hiring another developer would be impractical, but my explanation seems to have gone in one ear and out the other. Either that or you just aren't listening to a word I say so I will explain it again. Hopefully, in language you can understand. I can not and will not share USA Games with another game developer for the simple fact there is little money to be made in splitting it 50/50 with another person. I've already stated before there is not much money to be made off of creating and selling audio games, and by splitting it 50/50 with another person I'd essentially be getting half of what I could have gotten on my own. At a certain point my supposed partner and I wouldn't make enough off the games to make it worthwhile. There would be no financial incentive in developing audio games to bother with it from a commercial standpoint. So I wouldn't be doing myself or my partner any favors by such an arrangement. As for getting a lone I wouldn't qualify for one right now given my financial circumstances. Even if I could I wouldn't because I would be that much further in debt. My goal for the next few months is to pay my debts off, to get myself out of debt, and recover financially. I'd have to be insane to add to my debt by taking out a lone right now. So its not even remotely a consideration accept for an extreme emergency That is assuming I could even get a lone to begin with. Finally, as for you wanting the full version of Mysteries of the Ancients join the club. So do a lot of other people but pressuring me, riding my back like a horse with a saddle, and constantly requesting a full release will not make that happen any time soon. I have personal issues that need to get resolved before that happens, and no amount of pressuring me, wining, complaining, etc will make that happen. So just deal with it. Get off my back. For what it is worth I have started writing up a new release schedule, a new time table for the new beta release of Mysteries of the Ancients, but it is tentative at best. Besides, I have a feeling no matter what schedule I create it won't satisfy you, and you'll just wine and complain because you expect things to be done according to some unrealistic schedule. I'm not Merlin the Magician, and can't wave my magic wand in the air and make a game appear out of nowhere. It will take me months to catch up the backlog of work on Mysteries of the ancients so it is better for you and I both if you just wait patiently for things to get done when they get done. P.S. My name is not Champion. I would appreciate it if you stop calling me that. On 10/16/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi champion! why you shouldn't give your company to an another person to someone and sign an agreement of 50 50 Maybe it will help. as you are saying that you broke all your savings. Why can you apply for a cheap lone? I think If you have another person which maybe your employee can help you emotionally also. So champion go for it! I want mota mota mota in full version. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Lisa, Honestly, I'm not sure why I put up with Ishan's bull crap. I guess it is because I have a thicker skin or a greater tolerance for it, but even so I've been sorely tempted to kick Ishan off the list. Just haven't found a reason good enough to do it. As for telling him off please don't do that. You are a valued member of this community and I'd hate to have to moderate you or ban you from the list for giving Ishan an ear full even though I agree he probably deserves it. Now, if you want to say something to him off list I have no objections to that since it is out of my control. :D In any case I haven't decided what to do about Ishan yet, but one place to start is by sensoring his messages more. Basically, anything I don't like, think is in appropriate, for the list I'll reject it or delete it outright. Starting now he is going to be on a tight leash. On 10/17/14, Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net wrote: Thomas HOw are you so patient with this pest/ ban him moderate him but for f...'s sake get rid of him or i'll forget i'm a lady and tell him what i think of him and blieve me you'll be putting out brush fires when and if that happ;ens. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA
ok fare enough i'll keep a rein on my temper, for now, but he was rude to me and said something to the effect that it was my english not his that was not understandable and i have that message and your response so i'm not happy with him, for now i'll shut up. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 7:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Hi Lisa, Honestly, I'm not sure why I put up with Ishan's bull crap. I guess it is because I have a thicker skin or a greater tolerance for it, but even so I've been sorely tempted to kick Ishan off the list. Just haven't found a reason good enough to do it. As for telling him off please don't do that. You are a valued member of this community and I'd hate to have to moderate you or ban you from the list for giving Ishan an ear full even though I agree he probably deserves it. Now, if you want to say something to him off list I have no objections to that since it is out of my control. :D In any case I haven't decided what to do about Ishan yet, but one place to start is by sensoring his messages more. Basically, anything I don't like, think is in appropriate, for the list I'll reject it or delete it outright. Starting now he is going to be on a tight leash. On 10/17/14, Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net wrote: Thomas HOw are you so patient with this pest/ ban him moderate him but for f...'s sake get rid of him or i'll forget i'm a lady and tell him what i think of him and blieve me you'll be putting out brush fires when and if that happ;ens. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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and why do you call everybody champion? Josh On 10/16/2014 1:36 PM, ishan dhami wrote: Hi champion! why you shouldn't give your company to an another person to someone and sign an agreement of 50 50 Maybe it will help. as you are saying that you broke all your savings. Why can you apply for a cheap lone? I think If you have another person which maybe your employee can help you emotionally also. So champion go for it! I want mota mota mota in full version. Thanks Ishan On 10/16/14, john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com wrote: Well said sir. -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 9:24 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Hi Ishan, What you are suggesting isn't really practical or particularly feasible for a number of reasons. For one thing while the USA is a commercial country a lot of people, including myself, are in financial trouble right now and can't afford to just pay someone to write games or whatever. When my soon to be ex-wife left last fall I had to basically spend all of my savings etc to hire an attorney for the divorce, and as a result of the divorce I am pretty much flat broke. While I wouldn't call myself penniless I am pretty close to it at the moment. Second, due to a number of factors I haven't been working for a long time, and am collecting disability. That means while I have money coming in to pay my bills such as rent, internet, electricity, and so on I don't have a lot left over for extras. Let alone to hire an employee as you suggest. Finally, making audio games isn't likely enough to support one programmer let alone two or more. At most an audio game will bring in maybe $10,000 or so in sales, if it does that well, and then about 25% will come out of it for tax purposes. Say $7,500 clear. Now, we have to split that between two programmers which comes to $3,250 per person which is almost nothing. Bottom line, I could probably get a job working the lunch counter at Burger King, McDonald's, or Wendy's for twice that so making a living off of audio games isn't remotely possible. Much less hiring an employee as you suggest. As far as PCs Games goes who is Charles? Last I knew Phil worked alone, and developed Pac-Man Talks and Sarah by himself. He had a partner when starting out, but he left years ago to per sue a more lucrative career in the mainstream programming industry. So I do believe you have your facts wrong, and need to get them straight before making suggestions that are factually incorrect. Cheers! On 10/16/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas sir! Do you know phil vlasak? if you say yes then do that. Let's come to the point. you are a brilliant and talented person which I ever see in my entire life. so you also know that USA is a capitalist country. If you have money you can do everything. If you hire someone for USAGames for programming and updating and managing you'll gain not lose. your personal life is effecting your business because you are alone. the example of phil vlasak is showing us that Charles who is the main founder of pcsgames is gaining not losing. same thing will apply on you. If you do you'll earn not lose. I think itz a profitable agreement. So Mr champion go for it! What do you think my friends? Mr champion should do that or not. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org
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And if he's not making a lot off of the game to begin with, then how is he supposed to pay back that loan? What part of he's going through a financial chrisis and other stuff in his life right now what part of that don't you understand? On 10/16/2014 1:36 PM, ishan dhami wrote: Hi champion! why you shouldn't give your company to an another person to someone and sign an agreement of 50 50 Maybe it will help. as you are saying that you broke all your savings. Why can you apply for a cheap lone? I think If you have another person which maybe your employee can help you emotionally also. So champion go for it! I want mota mota mota in full version. Thanks Ishan On 10/16/14, john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com wrote: Well said sir. -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 9:24 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Hi Ishan, What you are suggesting isn't really practical or particularly feasible for a number of reasons. For one thing while the USA is a commercial country a lot of people, including myself, are in financial trouble right now and can't afford to just pay someone to write games or whatever. When my soon to be ex-wife left last fall I had to basically spend all of my savings etc to hire an attorney for the divorce, and as a result of the divorce I am pretty much flat broke. While I wouldn't call myself penniless I am pretty close to it at the moment. Second, due to a number of factors I haven't been working for a long time, and am collecting disability. That means while I have money coming in to pay my bills such as rent, internet, electricity, and so on I don't have a lot left over for extras. Let alone to hire an employee as you suggest. Finally, making audio games isn't likely enough to support one programmer let alone two or more. At most an audio game will bring in maybe $10,000 or so in sales, if it does that well, and then about 25% will come out of it for tax purposes. Say $7,500 clear. Now, we have to split that between two programmers which comes to $3,250 per person which is almost nothing. Bottom line, I could probably get a job working the lunch counter at Burger King, McDonald's, or Wendy's for twice that so making a living off of audio games isn't remotely possible. Much less hiring an employee as you suggest. As far as PCs Games goes who is Charles? Last I knew Phil worked alone, and developed Pac-Man Talks and Sarah by himself. He had a partner when starting out, but he left years ago to per sue a more lucrative career in the mainstream programming industry. So I do believe you have your facts wrong, and need to get them straight before making suggestions that are factually incorrect. Cheers! On 10/16/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas sir! Do you know phil vlasak? if you say yes then do that. Let's come to the point. you are a brilliant and talented person which I ever see in my entire life. so you also know that USA is a capitalist country. If you have money you can do everything. If you hire someone for USAGames for programming and updating and managing you'll gain not lose. your personal life is effecting your business because you are alone. the example of phil vlasak is showing us that Charles who is the main founder of pcsgames is gaining not losing. same thing will apply on you. If you do you'll earn not lose. I think itz a profitable agreement. So Mr champion go for it! What do you think my friends? Mr champion should do that or not. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding
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Like I said a while back your dealing with a 12 year old and there concept of life is not real but a childs. you will never make it understand. At 03:39 AM 10/17/2014, you wrote: Hi Ishan, Let's get something straight. Weather you intended to or not I find your posts regarding this matter both rude and a little irritating. I've already explained why hiring another developer would be impractical, but my explanation seems to have gone in one ear and out the other. Either that or you just aren't listening to a word I say so I will explain it again. Hopefully, in language you can understand. I can not and will not share USA Games with another game developer for the simple fact there is little money to be made in splitting it 50/50 with another person. I've already stated before there is not much money to be made off of creating and selling audio games, and by splitting it 50/50 with another person I'd essentially be getting half of what I could have gotten on my own. At a certain point my supposed partner and I wouldn't make enough off the games to make it worthwhile. There would be no financial incentive in developing audio games to bother with it from a commercial standpoint. So I wouldn't be doing myself or my partner any favors by such an arrangement. As for getting a lone I wouldn't qualify for one right now given my financial circumstances. Even if I could I wouldn't because I would be that much further in debt. My goal for the next few months is to pay my debts off, to get myself out of debt, and recover financially. I'd have to be insane to add to my debt by taking out a lone right now. So its not even remotely a consideration accept for an extreme emergency That is assuming I could even get a lone to begin with. Finally, as for you wanting the full version of Mysteries of the Ancients join the club. So do a lot of other people but pressuring me, riding my back like a horse with a saddle, and constantly requesting a full release will not make that happen any time soon. I have personal issues that need to get resolved before that happens, and no amount of pressuring me, wining, complaining, etc will make that happen. So just deal with it. Get off my back. For what it is worth I have started writing up a new release schedule, a new time table for the new beta release of Mysteries of the Ancients, but it is tentative at best. Besides, I have a feeling no matter what schedule I create it won't satisfy you, and you'll just wine and complain because you expect things to be done according to some unrealistic schedule. I'm not Merlin the Magician, and can't wave my magic wand in the air and make a game appear out of nowhere. It will take me months to catch up the backlog of work on Mysteries of the ancients so it is better for you and I both if you just wait patiently for things to get done when they get done. P.S. My name is not Champion. I would appreciate it if you stop calling me that. On 10/16/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi champion! why you shouldn't give your company to an another person to someone and sign an agreement of 50 50 Maybe it will help. as you are saying that you broke all your savings. Why can you apply for a cheap lone? I think If you have another person which maybe your employee can help you emotionally also. So champion go for it! I want mota mota mota in full version. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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you don't think at all and that is your problem. At 12:48 AM 10/17/2014, you wrote: I am not thinking about Charles riverd. Thanks Ishan On 10/16/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: LOL maybe he was thinking of Charles, the ATT NOt-so Natural Voice he often uses. Unless he was thinking of Charles Rivard? Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 7:24 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Hi Ishan, What you are suggesting isn't really practical or particularly feasible for a number of reasons. For one thing while the USA is a commercial country a lot of people, including myself, are in financial trouble right now and can't afford to just pay someone to write games or whatever. When my soon to be ex-wife left last fall I had to basically spend all of my savings etc to hire an attorney for the divorce, and as a result of the divorce I am pretty much flat broke. While I wouldn't call myself penniless I am pretty close to it at the moment. Second, due to a number of factors I haven't been working for a long time, and am collecting disability. That means while I have money coming in to pay my bills such as rent, internet, electricity, and so on I don't have a lot left over for extras. Let alone to hire an employee as you suggest. Finally, making audio games isn't likely enough to support one programmer let alone two or more. At most an audio game will bring in maybe $10,000 or so in sales, if it does that well, and then about 25% will come out of it for tax purposes. Say $7,500 clear. Now, we have to split that between two programmers which comes to $3,250 per person which is almost nothing. Bottom line, I could probably get a job working the lunch counter at Burger King, McDonald's, or Wendy's for twice that so making a living off of audio games isn't remotely possible. Much less hiring an employee as you suggest. As far as PCs Games goes who is Charles? Last I knew Phil worked alone, and developed Pac-Man Talks and Sarah by himself. He had a partner when starting out, but he left years ago to per sue a more lucrative career in the mainstream programming industry. So I do believe you have your facts wrong, and need to get them straight before making suggestions that are factually incorrect. Cheers! On 10/16/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas sir! Do you know phil vlasak? if you say yes then do that. Let's come to the point. you are a brilliant and talented person which I ever see in my entire life. so you also know that USA is a capitalist country. If you have money you can do everything. If you hire someone for USAGames for programming and updating and managing you'll gain not lose. your personal life is effecting your business because you are alone. the example of phil vlasak is showing us that Charles who is the main founder of pcsgames is gaining not losing. same thing will apply on you. If you do you'll earn not lose. I think itz a profitable agreement. So Mr champion go for it! What do you think my friends? Mr champion should do that or not. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo
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now this is where you jump up and down crying your eyes out its called a temper tantrum, and us grownups bring out the 2 by 4 and let your backside know what the meaning of smack is. At 01:36 PM 10/16/2014, you wrote: Hi champion! why you shouldn't give your company to an another person to someone and sign an agreement of 50 50 Maybe it will help. as you are saying that you broke all your savings. Why can you apply for a cheap lone? I think If you have another person which maybe your employee can help you emotionally also. So champion go for it! I want mota mota mota in full version. Thanks Ishan On 10/16/14, john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com wrote: Well said sir. -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 9:24 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Hi Ishan, What you are suggesting isn't really practical or particularly feasible for a number of reasons. For one thing while the USA is a commercial country a lot of people, including myself, are in financial trouble right now and can't afford to just pay someone to write games or whatever. When my soon to be ex-wife left last fall I had to basically spend all of my savings etc to hire an attorney for the divorce, and as a result of the divorce I am pretty much flat broke. While I wouldn't call myself penniless I am pretty close to it at the moment. Second, due to a number of factors I haven't been working for a long time, and am collecting disability. That means while I have money coming in to pay my bills such as rent, internet, electricity, and so on I don't have a lot left over for extras. Let alone to hire an employee as you suggest. Finally, making audio games isn't likely enough to support one programmer let alone two or more. At most an audio game will bring in maybe $10,000 or so in sales, if it does that well, and then about 25% will come out of it for tax purposes. Say $7,500 clear. Now, we have to split that between two programmers which comes to $3,250 per person which is almost nothing. Bottom line, I could probably get a job working the lunch counter at Burger King, McDonald's, or Wendy's for twice that so making a living off of audio games isn't remotely possible. Much less hiring an employee as you suggest. As far as PCs Games goes who is Charles? Last I knew Phil worked alone, and developed Pac-Man Talks and Sarah by himself. He had a partner when starting out, but he left years ago to per sue a more lucrative career in the mainstream programming industry. So I do believe you have your facts wrong, and need to get them straight before making suggestions that are factually incorrect. Cheers! On 10/16/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas sir! Do you know phil vlasak? if you say yes then do that. Let's come to the point. you are a brilliant and talented person which I ever see in my entire life. so you also know that USA is a capitalist country. If you have money you can do everything. If you hire someone for USAGames for programming and updating and managing you'll gain not lose. your personal life is effecting your business because you are alone. the example of phil vlasak is showing us that Charles who is the main founder of pcsgames is gaining not losing. same thing will apply on you. If you do you'll earn not lose. I think itz a profitable agreement. So Mr champion go for it! What do you think my friends? Mr champion should do that or not. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns
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BEcause he isn't on, he's trying to find one. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 10:44 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA and why do you call everybody champion? Josh On 10/16/2014 1:36 PM, ishan dhami wrote: Hi champion! why you shouldn't give your company to an another person to someone and sign an agreement of 50 50 Maybe it will help. as you are saying that you broke all your savings. Why can you apply for a cheap lone? I think If you have another person which maybe your employee can help you emotionally also. So champion go for it! I want mota mota mota in full version. Thanks Ishan On 10/16/14, john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com wrote: Well said sir. -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 9:24 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Hi Ishan, What you are suggesting isn't really practical or particularly feasible for a number of reasons. For one thing while the USA is a commercial country a lot of people, including myself, are in financial trouble right now and can't afford to just pay someone to write games or whatever. When my soon to be ex-wife left last fall I had to basically spend all of my savings etc to hire an attorney for the divorce, and as a result of the divorce I am pretty much flat broke. While I wouldn't call myself penniless I am pretty close to it at the moment. Second, due to a number of factors I haven't been working for a long time, and am collecting disability. That means while I have money coming in to pay my bills such as rent, internet, electricity, and so on I don't have a lot left over for extras. Let alone to hire an employee as you suggest. Finally, making audio games isn't likely enough to support one programmer let alone two or more. At most an audio game will bring in maybe $10,000 or so in sales, if it does that well, and then about 25% will come out of it for tax purposes. Say $7,500 clear. Now, we have to split that between two programmers which comes to $3,250 per person which is almost nothing. Bottom line, I could probably get a job working the lunch counter at Burger King, McDonald's, or Wendy's for twice that so making a living off of audio games isn't remotely possible. Much less hiring an employee as you suggest. As far as PCs Games goes who is Charles? Last I knew Phil worked alone, and developed Pac-Man Talks and Sarah by himself. He had a partner when starting out, but he left years ago to per sue a more lucrative career in the mainstream programming industry. So I do believe you have your facts wrong, and need to get them straight before making suggestions that are factually incorrect. Cheers! On 10/16/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas sir! Do you know phil vlasak? if you say yes then do that. Let's come to the point. you are a brilliant and talented person which I ever see in my entire life. so you also know that USA is a capitalist country. If you have money you can do everything. If you hire someone for USAGames for programming and updating and managing you'll gain not lose. your personal life is effecting your business because you are alone. the example of phil vlasak is showing us that Charles who is the main founder of pcsgames is gaining not losing. same thing will apply on you. If you do you'll earn not lose. I think itz a profitable agreement. So Mr champion go for it! What do you think my friends? Mr champion should do that or not. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched
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Hi Josh, Actually, I don't think Ishan was calling everyone Champion. By the context of his message I believe it was directed towards me. Although, I haven't a clue why he has started calling me or anyone else Champion. On 10/17/14, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: and why do you call everybody champion? Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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as far as I know champion is not a name. the word champion means... 1. a person who has defeated or surpassed all rivals in a competition, especially in sports. a champion hurdler synonyms: winner, titleholder, defending champion, gold medalist, titlist, record holder; Moreprizewinner, victor; informalchamp, number one, king the world champion 2. a person who fights or argues for a cause or on behalf of someone else. a champion of women's rights synonyms: advocate, proponent, promoter, supporter, defender, upholder, backer, exponent; Morecampaigner, lobbyist, crusader, apologist, booster, flag-bearer a champion of change historical a knight who fought in single combat on behalf of the monarch. synonyms: knight, man-at-arms, warrior the king's champion verb verb: champion; 3rd person present: champions; past tense: championed; past participle: championed; gerund or present participle: championing 1. support the cause of; defend. priests who championed human rights synonyms: advocate, promote, defend, uphold, support, back, stand up for, take someone's part; Morecampaign for, lobby for, fight for, crusade for, stick up for championing the rights of refugees antonyms: oppose Origin Middle English (denoting a fighting man): from Old French, from medieval Latin campio(n-) ‘fighter,’ from Latin campus (see camp1). so ishan is completely wrong there. On 10/17/2014 9:26 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Josh, Actually, I don't think Ishan was calling everyone Champion. By the context of his message I believe it was directed towards me. Although, I haven't a clue why he has started calling me or anyone else Champion. On 10/17/14, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: and why do you call everybody champion? Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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In this context, champion is being used in the same way as calling someone sir, boss, Governor etc. It's a sort of informal way of talking up to someone, an attempt to show respect. A tad awkward, and annoying with repetition no doubt, but I would've thought it was obvious that there was no actual ill intent behind it. Tbh, given the amount of rambly junk that goes uncommented on here, I can't quite believe I'm seeing an entire thread of regular posters piling on a young guy who's obviously not speaking his native language and seems to still be finding his way when it comes to social etiquette on the net. Long live the double standard You stay classy now chaps... On 10/17/14, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: as far as I know champion is not a name. the word champion means... 1. a person who has defeated or surpassed all rivals in a competition, especially in sports. a champion hurdler synonyms: winner, titleholder, defending champion, gold medalist, titlist, record holder; Moreprizewinner, victor; informalchamp, number one, king the world champion 2. a person who fights or argues for a cause or on behalf of someone else. a champion of women's rights synonyms: advocate, proponent, promoter, supporter, defender, upholder, backer, exponent; Morecampaigner, lobbyist, crusader, apologist, booster, flag-bearer a champion of change historical a knight who fought in single combat on behalf of the monarch. synonyms: knight, man-at-arms, warrior the king's champion verb verb: champion; 3rd person present: champions; past tense: championed; past participle: championed; gerund or present participle: championing 1. support the cause of; defend. priests who championed human rights synonyms: advocate, promote, defend, uphold, support, back, stand up for, take someone's part; Morecampaign for, lobby for, fight for, crusade for, stick up for championing the rights of refugees antonyms: oppose Origin Middle English (denoting a fighting man): from Old French, from medieval Latin campio(n-) 'fighter,' from Latin campus (see camp1). so ishan is completely wrong there. On 10/17/2014 9:26 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Josh, Actually, I don't think Ishan was calling everyone Champion. By the context of his message I believe it was directed towards me. Although, I haven't a clue why he has started calling me or anyone else Champion. On 10/17/14, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: and why do you call everybody champion? Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I actually think he's eighteen. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: tim Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 6:24 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Like I said a while back your dealing with a 12 year old and there concept of life is not real but a childs. you will never make it understand. At 03:39 AM 10/17/2014, you wrote: Hi Ishan, Let's get something straight. Weather you intended to or not I find your posts regarding this matter both rude and a little irritating. I've already explained why hiring another developer would be impractical, but my explanation seems to have gone in one ear and out the other. Either that or you just aren't listening to a word I say so I will explain it again. Hopefully, in language you can understand. I can not and will not share USA Games with another game developer for the simple fact there is little money to be made in splitting it 50/50 with another person. I've already stated before there is not much money to be made off of creating and selling audio games, and by splitting it 50/50 with another person I'd essentially be getting half of what I could have gotten on my own. At a certain point my supposed partner and I wouldn't make enough off the games to make it worthwhile. There would be no financial incentive in developing audio games to bother with it from a commercial standpoint. So I wouldn't be doing myself or my partner any favors by such an arrangement. As for getting a lone I wouldn't qualify for one right now given my financial circumstances. Even if I could I wouldn't because I would be that much further in debt. My goal for the next few months is to pay my debts off, to get myself out of debt, and recover financially. I'd have to be insane to add to my debt by taking out a lone right now. So its not even remotely a consideration accept for an extreme emergency That is assuming I could even get a lone to begin with. Finally, as for you wanting the full version of Mysteries of the Ancients join the club. So do a lot of other people but pressuring me, riding my back like a horse with a saddle, and constantly requesting a full release will not make that happen any time soon. I have personal issues that need to get resolved before that happens, and no amount of pressuring me, wining, complaining, etc will make that happen. So just deal with it. Get off my back. For what it is worth I have started writing up a new release schedule, a new time table for the new beta release of Mysteries of the Ancients, but it is tentative at best. Besides, I have a feeling no matter what schedule I create it won't satisfy you, and you'll just wine and complain because you expect things to be done according to some unrealistic schedule. I'm not Merlin the Magician, and can't wave my magic wand in the air and make a game appear out of nowhere. It will take me months to catch up the backlog of work on Mysteries of the ancients so it is better for you and I both if you just wait patiently for things to get done when they get done. P.S. My name is not Champion. I would appreciate it if you stop calling me that. On 10/16/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi champion! why you shouldn't give your company to an another person to someone and sign an agreement of 50 50 Maybe it will help. as you are saying that you broke all your savings. Why can you apply for a cheap lone? I think If you have another person which maybe your employee can help you emotionally also. So champion go for it! I want mota mota mota in full version. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers
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And a very funny one at that. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 11:48 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Well, I know it's not me, although I did do a demo of Tenpin Alley when it was about to be marketed. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 12:19 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Hi Bryan, I don't know, but there is definitely no Charles involved with PCs Games. At least not as a developer etc. I have no idea where Ishan got that idea, but he needs to get his facts straight. That's all I can say. Cheers! On 10/16/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: LOL maybe he was thinking of Charles, the ATT NOt-so Natural Voice he often uses. Unless he was thinking of Charles Rivard? Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I saw that one. Then he even told people I was his sworn ennemy because I couldn't understand him and I wouldn't help im get a game for free. Therefore I'd asked him not to write me. Talk about petty. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Lisa Hayes Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 3:18 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA ok fare enough i'll keep a rein on my temper, for now, but he was rude to me and said something to the effect that it was my english not his that was not understandable and i have that message and your response so i'm not happy with him, for now i'll shut up. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 7:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Hi Lisa, Honestly, I'm not sure why I put up with Ishan's bull crap. I guess it is because I have a thicker skin or a greater tolerance for it, but even so I've been sorely tempted to kick Ishan off the list. Just haven't found a reason good enough to do it. As for telling him off please don't do that. You are a valued member of this community and I'd hate to have to moderate you or ban you from the list for giving Ishan an ear full even though I agree he probably deserves it. Now, if you want to say something to him off list I have no objections to that since it is out of my control. :D In any case I haven't decided what to do about Ishan yet, but one place to start is by sensoring his messages more. Basically, anything I don't like, think is in appropriate, for the list I'll reject it or delete it outright. Starting now he is going to be on a tight leash. On 10/17/14, Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net wrote: Thomas HOw are you so patient with this pest/ ban him moderate him but for f...'s sake get rid of him or i'll forget i'm a lady and tell him what i think of him and blieve me you'll be putting out brush fires when and if that happ;ens. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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The point here isn't that he's not speaking his native language. The point is that people have repeatedly explained things to him in many different ways and he still asks the same questions and demands things be done now, now, now. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Scott Chesworth Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 10:07 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA In this context, champion is being used in the same way as calling someone sir, boss, Governor etc. It's a sort of informal way of talking up to someone, an attempt to show respect. A tad awkward, and annoying with repetition no doubt, but I would've thought it was obvious that there was no actual ill intent behind it. Tbh, given the amount of rambly junk that goes uncommented on here, I can't quite believe I'm seeing an entire thread of regular posters piling on a young guy who's obviously not speaking his native language and seems to still be finding his way when it comes to social etiquette on the net. Long live the double standard You stay classy now chaps... On 10/17/14, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: as far as I know champion is not a name. the word champion means... 1. a person who has defeated or surpassed all rivals in a competition, especially in sports. a champion hurdler synonyms: winner, titleholder, defending champion, gold medalist, titlist, record holder; Moreprizewinner, victor; informalchamp, number one, king the world champion 2. a person who fights or argues for a cause or on behalf of someone else. a champion of women's rights synonyms: advocate, proponent, promoter, supporter, defender, upholder, backer, exponent; Morecampaigner, lobbyist, crusader, apologist, booster, flag-bearer a champion of change historical a knight who fought in single combat on behalf of the monarch. synonyms: knight, man-at-arms, warrior the king's champion verb verb: champion; 3rd person present: champions; past tense: championed; past participle: championed; gerund or present participle: championing 1. support the cause of; defend. priests who championed human rights synonyms: advocate, promote, defend, uphold, support, back, stand up for, take someone's part; Morecampaign for, lobby for, fight for, crusade for, stick up for championing the rights of refugees antonyms: oppose Origin Middle English (denoting a fighting man): from Old French, from medieval Latin campio(n-) 'fighter,' from Latin campus (see camp1). so ishan is completely wrong there. On 10/17/2014 9:26 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Josh, Actually, I don't think Ishan was calling everyone Champion. By the context of his message I believe it was directed towards me. Although, I haven't a clue why he has started calling me or anyone else Champion. On 10/17/14, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: and why do you call everybody champion? Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Ah, maybe you misunderstood. The language difficulty was just one aspect of the broader point I was implying, that being that what's happening here is petty jibing which does nothing to solve the actual problem. Since subtlety doesn't always stay in tact in writing, let's take it a step further. It doesn't solve the underlying problem, but it does make a bunch of regular posters seem like the type of people who'd pile on to deliver a covert kick to the kidneys of an annoying kid in a school yard when there's already someone twice his age beating the snot out of him. I mean, a guy who writes the way Josh generally does pasting a dictionary definition... come on... not cool... Moderated posts would've probably solved it, and still might. This is assuming that the savage dogs of war can be called off of course lol On 10/17/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: The point here isn't that he's not speaking his native language. The point is that people have repeatedly explained things to him in many different ways and he still asks the same questions and demands things be done now, now, now. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Scott Chesworth Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 10:07 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA In this context, champion is being used in the same way as calling someone sir, boss, Governor etc. It's a sort of informal way of talking up to someone, an attempt to show respect. A tad awkward, and annoying with repetition no doubt, but I would've thought it was obvious that there was no actual ill intent behind it. Tbh, given the amount of rambly junk that goes uncommented on here, I can't quite believe I'm seeing an entire thread of regular posters piling on a young guy who's obviously not speaking his native language and seems to still be finding his way when it comes to social etiquette on the net. Long live the double standard You stay classy now chaps... On 10/17/14, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: as far as I know champion is not a name. the word champion means... 1. a person who has defeated or surpassed all rivals in a competition, especially in sports. a champion hurdler synonyms: winner, titleholder, defending champion, gold medalist, titlist, record holder; Moreprizewinner, victor; informalchamp, number one, king the world champion 2. a person who fights or argues for a cause or on behalf of someone else. a champion of women's rights synonyms: advocate, proponent, promoter, supporter, defender, upholder, backer, exponent; Morecampaigner, lobbyist, crusader, apologist, booster, flag-bearer a champion of change historical a knight who fought in single combat on behalf of the monarch. synonyms: knight, man-at-arms, warrior the king's champion verb verb: champion; 3rd person present: champions; past tense: championed; past participle: championed; gerund or present participle: championing 1. support the cause of; defend. priests who championed human rights synonyms: advocate, promote, defend, uphold, support, back, stand up for, take someone's part; Morecampaign for, lobby for, fight for, crusade for, stick up for championing the rights of refugees antonyms: oppose Origin Middle English (denoting a fighting man): from Old French, from medieval Latin campio(n-) 'fighter,' from Latin campus (see camp1). so ishan is completely wrong there. On 10/17/2014 9:26 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Josh, Actually, I don't think Ishan was calling everyone Champion. By the context of his message I believe it was directed towards me. Although, I haven't a clue why he has started calling me or anyone else Champion. On 10/17/14, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: and why do you call everybody champion? Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail
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That's the thing. That's already been tried several times with him. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Scott Chesworth Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 11:23 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Ah, maybe you misunderstood. The language difficulty was just one aspect of the broader point I was implying, that being that what's happening here is petty jibing which does nothing to solve the actual problem. Since subtlety doesn't always stay in tact in writing, let's take it a step further. It doesn't solve the underlying problem, but it does make a bunch of regular posters seem like the type of people who'd pile on to deliver a covert kick to the kidneys of an annoying kid in a school yard when there's already someone twice his age beating the snot out of him. I mean, a guy who writes the way Josh generally does pasting a dictionary definition... come on... not cool... Moderated posts would've probably solved it, and still might. This is assuming that the savage dogs of war can be called off of course lol On 10/17/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: The point here isn't that he's not speaking his native language. The point is that people have repeatedly explained things to him in many different ways and he still asks the same questions and demands things be done now, now, now. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Scott Chesworth Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 10:07 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA In this context, champion is being used in the same way as calling someone sir, boss, Governor etc. It's a sort of informal way of talking up to someone, an attempt to show respect. A tad awkward, and annoying with repetition no doubt, but I would've thought it was obvious that there was no actual ill intent behind it. Tbh, given the amount of rambly junk that goes uncommented on here, I can't quite believe I'm seeing an entire thread of regular posters piling on a young guy who's obviously not speaking his native language and seems to still be finding his way when it comes to social etiquette on the net. Long live the double standard You stay classy now chaps... On 10/17/14, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: as far as I know champion is not a name. the word champion means... 1. a person who has defeated or surpassed all rivals in a competition, especially in sports. a champion hurdler synonyms: winner, titleholder, defending champion, gold medalist, titlist, record holder; Moreprizewinner, victor; informalchamp, number one, king the world champion 2. a person who fights or argues for a cause or on behalf of someone else. a champion of women's rights synonyms: advocate, proponent, promoter, supporter, defender, upholder, backer, exponent; Morecampaigner, lobbyist, crusader, apologist, booster, flag-bearer a champion of change historical a knight who fought in single combat on behalf of the monarch. synonyms: knight, man-at-arms, warrior the king's champion verb verb: champion; 3rd person present: champions; past tense: championed; past participle: championed; gerund or present participle: championing 1. support the cause of; defend. priests who championed human rights synonyms: advocate, promote, defend, uphold, support, back, stand up for, take someone's part; Morecampaign for, lobby for, fight for, crusade for, stick up for championing the rights of refugees antonyms: oppose Origin Middle English (denoting a fighting man): from Old French, from medieval Latin campio(n-) 'fighter,' from Latin campus (see camp1). so ishan is completely wrong there. On 10/17/2014 9:26 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Josh, Actually, I don't think Ishan was calling everyone Champion. By the context of his message I believe it was directed towards me. Although, I haven't a clue why he has started calling me or anyone else Champion. On 10/17/14, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: and why do you call everybody champion? Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers
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What has already been tried several times, switching his posts to moderated? On 10/17/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: That's the thing. That's already been tried several times with him. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Scott Chesworth Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 11:23 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Ah, maybe you misunderstood. The language difficulty was just one aspect of the broader point I was implying, that being that what's happening here is petty jibing which does nothing to solve the actual problem. Since subtlety doesn't always stay in tact in writing, let's take it a step further. It doesn't solve the underlying problem, but it does make a bunch of regular posters seem like the type of people who'd pile on to deliver a covert kick to the kidneys of an annoying kid in a school yard when there's already someone twice his age beating the snot out of him. I mean, a guy who writes the way Josh generally does pasting a dictionary definition... come on... not cool... Moderated posts would've probably solved it, and still might. This is assuming that the savage dogs of war can be called off of course lol On 10/17/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: The point here isn't that he's not speaking his native language. The point is that people have repeatedly explained things to him in many different ways and he still asks the same questions and demands things be done now, now, now. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Scott Chesworth Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 10:07 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA In this context, champion is being used in the same way as calling someone sir, boss, Governor etc. It's a sort of informal way of talking up to someone, an attempt to show respect. A tad awkward, and annoying with repetition no doubt, but I would've thought it was obvious that there was no actual ill intent behind it. Tbh, given the amount of rambly junk that goes uncommented on here, I can't quite believe I'm seeing an entire thread of regular posters piling on a young guy who's obviously not speaking his native language and seems to still be finding his way when it comes to social etiquette on the net. Long live the double standard You stay classy now chaps... On 10/17/14, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: as far as I know champion is not a name. the word champion means... 1. a person who has defeated or surpassed all rivals in a competition, especially in sports. a champion hurdler synonyms: winner, titleholder, defending champion, gold medalist, titlist, record holder; Moreprizewinner, victor; informalchamp, number one, king the world champion 2. a person who fights or argues for a cause or on behalf of someone else. a champion of women's rights synonyms: advocate, proponent, promoter, supporter, defender, upholder, backer, exponent; Morecampaigner, lobbyist, crusader, apologist, booster, flag-bearer a champion of change historical a knight who fought in single combat on behalf of the monarch. synonyms: knight, man-at-arms, warrior the king's champion verb verb: champion; 3rd person present: champions; past tense: championed; past participle: championed; gerund or present participle: championing 1. support the cause of; defend. priests who championed human rights synonyms: advocate, promote, defend, uphold, support, back, stand up for, take someone's part; Morecampaign for, lobby for, fight for, crusade for, stick up for championing the rights of refugees antonyms: oppose Origin Middle English (denoting a fighting man): from Old French, from medieval Latin campio(n-) 'fighter,' from Latin campus (see camp1). so ishan is completely wrong there. On 10/17/2014 9:26 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Josh, Actually, I don't think Ishan was calling everyone Champion. By the context of his message I believe it was directed towards me. Although, I haven't a clue why he has started calling me or anyone else Champion. On 10/17/14, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: and why do you call everybody champion? Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers
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Precisely. And polite explanations and requests. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Scott Chesworth Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 12:10 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA What has already been tried several times, switching his posts to moderated? On 10/17/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: That's the thing. That's already been tried several times with him. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Scott Chesworth Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 11:23 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Ah, maybe you misunderstood. The language difficulty was just one aspect of the broader point I was implying, that being that what's happening here is petty jibing which does nothing to solve the actual problem. Since subtlety doesn't always stay in tact in writing, let's take it a step further. It doesn't solve the underlying problem, but it does make a bunch of regular posters seem like the type of people who'd pile on to deliver a covert kick to the kidneys of an annoying kid in a school yard when there's already someone twice his age beating the snot out of him. I mean, a guy who writes the way Josh generally does pasting a dictionary definition... come on... not cool... Moderated posts would've probably solved it, and still might. This is assuming that the savage dogs of war can be called off of course lol On 10/17/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: The point here isn't that he's not speaking his native language. The point is that people have repeatedly explained things to him in many different ways and he still asks the same questions and demands things be done now, now, now. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Scott Chesworth Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 10:07 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA In this context, champion is being used in the same way as calling someone sir, boss, Governor etc. It's a sort of informal way of talking up to someone, an attempt to show respect. A tad awkward, and annoying with repetition no doubt, but I would've thought it was obvious that there was no actual ill intent behind it. Tbh, given the amount of rambly junk that goes uncommented on here, I can't quite believe I'm seeing an entire thread of regular posters piling on a young guy who's obviously not speaking his native language and seems to still be finding his way when it comes to social etiquette on the net. Long live the double standard You stay classy now chaps... On 10/17/14, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: as far as I know champion is not a name. the word champion means... 1. a person who has defeated or surpassed all rivals in a competition, especially in sports. a champion hurdler synonyms: winner, titleholder, defending champion, gold medalist, titlist, record holder; Moreprizewinner, victor; informalchamp, number one, king the world champion 2. a person who fights or argues for a cause or on behalf of someone else. a champion of women's rights synonyms: advocate, proponent, promoter, supporter, defender, upholder, backer, exponent; Morecampaigner, lobbyist, crusader, apologist, booster, flag-bearer a champion of change historical a knight who fought in single combat on behalf of the monarch. synonyms: knight, man-at-arms, warrior the king's champion verb verb: champion; 3rd person present: champions; past tense: championed; past participle: championed; gerund or present participle: championing 1. support the cause of; defend. priests who championed human rights synonyms: advocate, promote, defend, uphold, support, back, stand up for, take someone's part; Morecampaign for, lobby for, fight for, crusade for, stick up for championing the rights of refugees antonyms: oppose Origin Middle English (denoting a fighting man): from Old French, from medieval Latin campio(n-) 'fighter,' from Latin campus (see camp1). so ishan is completely wrong there. On 10/17/2014 9:26 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Josh, Actually, I don't think Ishan was calling everyone Champion. By the context of his message I believe it was directed towards me. Although, I haven't a clue why he has started calling me or anyone else Champion. On 10/17/14, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: and why do you call everybody champion? Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions
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So hang on, if he's on moderated status, why are we still seeing the type of posts that are guaranteed to annoy people, people that in this case includes the moderator? On 10/17/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Precisely. And polite explanations and requests. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Scott Chesworth Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 12:10 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA What has already been tried several times, switching his posts to moderated? On 10/17/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: That's the thing. That's already been tried several times with him. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Scott Chesworth Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 11:23 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Ah, maybe you misunderstood. The language difficulty was just one aspect of the broader point I was implying, that being that what's happening here is petty jibing which does nothing to solve the actual problem. Since subtlety doesn't always stay in tact in writing, let's take it a step further. It doesn't solve the underlying problem, but it does make a bunch of regular posters seem like the type of people who'd pile on to deliver a covert kick to the kidneys of an annoying kid in a school yard when there's already someone twice his age beating the snot out of him. I mean, a guy who writes the way Josh generally does pasting a dictionary definition... come on... not cool... Moderated posts would've probably solved it, and still might. This is assuming that the savage dogs of war can be called off of course lol On 10/17/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: The point here isn't that he's not speaking his native language. The point is that people have repeatedly explained things to him in many different ways and he still asks the same questions and demands things be done now, now, now. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Scott Chesworth Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 10:07 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA In this context, champion is being used in the same way as calling someone sir, boss, Governor etc. It's a sort of informal way of talking up to someone, an attempt to show respect. A tad awkward, and annoying with repetition no doubt, but I would've thought it was obvious that there was no actual ill intent behind it. Tbh, given the amount of rambly junk that goes uncommented on here, I can't quite believe I'm seeing an entire thread of regular posters piling on a young guy who's obviously not speaking his native language and seems to still be finding his way when it comes to social etiquette on the net. Long live the double standard You stay classy now chaps... On 10/17/14, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: as far as I know champion is not a name. the word champion means... 1. a person who has defeated or surpassed all rivals in a competition, especially in sports. a champion hurdler synonyms: winner, titleholder, defending champion, gold medalist, titlist, record holder; Moreprizewinner, victor; informalchamp, number one, king the world champion 2. a person who fights or argues for a cause or on behalf of someone else. a champion of women's rights synonyms: advocate, proponent, promoter, supporter, defender, upholder, backer, exponent; Morecampaigner, lobbyist, crusader, apologist, booster, flag-bearer a champion of change historical a knight who fought in single combat on behalf of the monarch. synonyms: knight, man-at-arms, warrior the king's champion verb verb: champion; 3rd person present: champions; past tense: championed; past participle: championed; gerund or present participle: championing 1. support the cause of; defend. priests who championed human rights synonyms: advocate, promote, defend, uphold, support, back, stand up for, take someone's part; Morecampaign for, lobby for, fight for, crusade for, stick up for championing the rights of refugees antonyms: oppose Origin Middle English (denoting a fighting man): from Old French, from medieval Latin campio(n-) 'fighter,' from Latin campus (see camp1). so ishan is completely wrong there. On 10/17/2014 9:26 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Josh, Actually, I don't think Ishan was calling everyone Champion. By the context of his message I believe it was directed towards me. Although, I haven't a clue why he has started calling me or anyone else Champion. On 10/17/14, Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: and why do you call everybody champion? Josh --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you
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Brian yo accidently put a one in their mate, i reckopn he's eight, now how will he take that, lol. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 3:40 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA I actually think he's eighteen. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: tim Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 6:24 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Like I said a while back your dealing with a 12 year old and there concept of life is not real but a childs. you will never make it understand. At 03:39 AM 10/17/2014, you wrote: Hi Ishan, Let's get something straight. Weather you intended to or not I find your posts regarding this matter both rude and a little irritating. I've already explained why hiring another developer would be impractical, but my explanation seems to have gone in one ear and out the other. Either that or you just aren't listening to a word I say so I will explain it again. Hopefully, in language you can understand. I can not and will not share USA Games with another game developer for the simple fact there is little money to be made in splitting it 50/50 with another person. I've already stated before there is not much money to be made off of creating and selling audio games, and by splitting it 50/50 with another person I'd essentially be getting half of what I could have gotten on my own. At a certain point my supposed partner and I wouldn't make enough off the games to make it worthwhile. There would be no financial incentive in developing audio games to bother with it from a commercial standpoint. So I wouldn't be doing myself or my partner any favors by such an arrangement. As for getting a lone I wouldn't qualify for one right now given my financial circumstances. Even if I could I wouldn't because I would be that much further in debt. My goal for the next few months is to pay my debts off, to get myself out of debt, and recover financially. I'd have to be insane to add to my debt by taking out a lone right now. So its not even remotely a consideration accept for an extreme emergency That is assuming I could even get a lone to begin with. Finally, as for you wanting the full version of Mysteries of the Ancients join the club. So do a lot of other people but pressuring me, riding my back like a horse with a saddle, and constantly requesting a full release will not make that happen any time soon. I have personal issues that need to get resolved before that happens, and no amount of pressuring me, wining, complaining, etc will make that happen. So just deal with it. Get off my back. For what it is worth I have started writing up a new release schedule, a new time table for the new beta release of Mysteries of the Ancients, but it is tentative at best. Besides, I have a feeling no matter what schedule I create it won't satisfy you, and you'll just wine and complain because you expect things to be done according to some unrealistic schedule. I'm not Merlin the Magician, and can't wave my magic wand in the air and make a game appear out of nowhere. It will take me months to catch up the backlog of work on Mysteries of the ancients so it is better for you and I both if you just wait patiently for things to get done when they get done. P.S. My name is not Champion. I would appreciate it if you stop calling me that. On 10/16/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi champion! why you shouldn't give your company to an another person to someone and sign an agreement of 50 50 Maybe it will help. as you are saying that you broke all your savings. Why can you apply for a cheap lone? I think If you have another person which maybe your employee can help you emotionally also. So champion go for it! I want mota mota mota in full version. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow
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INdeed smack and continuing smacking. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: tim z200...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 11:29 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA now this is where you jump up and down crying your eyes out its called a temper tantrum, and us grownups bring out the 2 by 4 and let your backside know what the meaning of smack is. At 01:36 PM 10/16/2014, you wrote: Hi champion! why you shouldn't give your company to an another person to someone and sign an agreement of 50 50 Maybe it will help. as you are saying that you broke all your savings. Why can you apply for a cheap lone? I think If you have another person which maybe your employee can help you emotionally also. So champion go for it! I want mota mota mota in full version. Thanks Ishan On 10/16/14, john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com wrote: Well said sir. -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 9:24 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Hi Ishan, What you are suggesting isn't really practical or particularly feasible for a number of reasons. For one thing while the USA is a commercial country a lot of people, including myself, are in financial trouble right now and can't afford to just pay someone to write games or whatever. When my soon to be ex-wife left last fall I had to basically spend all of my savings etc to hire an attorney for the divorce, and as a result of the divorce I am pretty much flat broke. While I wouldn't call myself penniless I am pretty close to it at the moment. Second, due to a number of factors I haven't been working for a long time, and am collecting disability. That means while I have money coming in to pay my bills such as rent, internet, electricity, and so on I don't have a lot left over for extras. Let alone to hire an employee as you suggest. Finally, making audio games isn't likely enough to support one programmer let alone two or more. At most an audio game will bring in maybe $10,000 or so in sales, if it does that well, and then about 25% will come out of it for tax purposes. Say $7,500 clear. Now, we have to split that between two programmers which comes to $3,250 per person which is almost nothing. Bottom line, I could probably get a job working the lunch counter at Burger King, McDonald's, or Wendy's for twice that so making a living off of audio games isn't remotely possible. Much less hiring an employee as you suggest. As far as PCs Games goes who is Charles? Last I knew Phil worked alone, and developed Pac-Man Talks and Sarah by himself. He had a partner when starting out, but he left years ago to per sue a more lucrative career in the mainstream programming industry. So I do believe you have your facts wrong, and need to get them straight before making suggestions that are factually incorrect. Cheers! On 10/16/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas sir! Do you know phil vlasak? if you say yes then do that. Let's come to the point. you are a brilliant and talented person which I ever see in my entire life. so you also know that USA is a capitalist country. If you have money you can do everything. If you hire someone for USAGames for programming and updating and managing you'll gain not lose. your personal life is effecting your business because you are alone. the example of phil vlasak is showing us that Charles who is the main founder of pcsgames is gaining not losing. same thing will apply on you. If you do you'll earn not lose. I think itz a profitable agreement. So Mr champion go for it! What do you think my friends? Mr champion should do that or not. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr
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No accident. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Lisa Hayes Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 7:18 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Brian yo accidently put a one in their mate, i reckopn he's eight, now how will he take that, lol. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 3:40 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA I actually think he's eighteen. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: tim Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 6:24 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Like I said a while back your dealing with a 12 year old and there concept of life is not real but a childs. you will never make it understand. At 03:39 AM 10/17/2014, you wrote: Hi Ishan, Let's get something straight. Weather you intended to or not I find your posts regarding this matter both rude and a little irritating. I've already explained why hiring another developer would be impractical, but my explanation seems to have gone in one ear and out the other. Either that or you just aren't listening to a word I say so I will explain it again. Hopefully, in language you can understand. I can not and will not share USA Games with another game developer for the simple fact there is little money to be made in splitting it 50/50 with another person. I've already stated before there is not much money to be made off of creating and selling audio games, and by splitting it 50/50 with another person I'd essentially be getting half of what I could have gotten on my own. At a certain point my supposed partner and I wouldn't make enough off the games to make it worthwhile. There would be no financial incentive in developing audio games to bother with it from a commercial standpoint. So I wouldn't be doing myself or my partner any favors by such an arrangement. As for getting a lone I wouldn't qualify for one right now given my financial circumstances. Even if I could I wouldn't because I would be that much further in debt. My goal for the next few months is to pay my debts off, to get myself out of debt, and recover financially. I'd have to be insane to add to my debt by taking out a lone right now. So its not even remotely a consideration accept for an extreme emergency That is assuming I could even get a lone to begin with. Finally, as for you wanting the full version of Mysteries of the Ancients join the club. So do a lot of other people but pressuring me, riding my back like a horse with a saddle, and constantly requesting a full release will not make that happen any time soon. I have personal issues that need to get resolved before that happens, and no amount of pressuring me, wining, complaining, etc will make that happen. So just deal with it. Get off my back. For what it is worth I have started writing up a new release schedule, a new time table for the new beta release of Mysteries of the Ancients, but it is tentative at best. Besides, I have a feeling no matter what schedule I create it won't satisfy you, and you'll just wine and complain because you expect things to be done according to some unrealistic schedule. I'm not Merlin the Magician, and can't wave my magic wand in the air and make a game appear out of nowhere. It will take me months to catch up the backlog of work on Mysteries of the ancients so it is better for you and I both if you just wait patiently for things to get done when they get done. P.S. My name is not Champion. I would appreciate it if you stop calling me that. On 10/16/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi champion! why you shouldn't give your company to an another person to someone and sign an agreement of 50 50 Maybe it will help. as you are saying that you broke all your savings. Why can you apply for a cheap lone? I think If you have another person which maybe your employee can help you emotionally also. So champion go for it! I want mota mota mota in full version. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http
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As irritated as I've been from reading his messages in the last several days, this stream of nonstop and monotonous bashing is just as, if not more, irritating. At this point I've no idea why you are even continuing this. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Hayes Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 8:54 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA INdeed smack and continuing smacking. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: tim z200...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 11:29 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA now this is where you jump up and down crying your eyes out its called a temper tantrum, and us grownups bring out the 2 by 4 and let your backside know what the meaning of smack is. At 01:36 PM 10/16/2014, you wrote: Hi champion! why you shouldn't give your company to an another person to someone and sign an agreement of 50 50 Maybe it will help. as you are saying that you broke all your savings. Why can you apply for a cheap lone? I think If you have another person which maybe your employee can help you emotionally also. So champion go for it! I want mota mota mota in full version. Thanks Ishan On 10/16/14, john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com wrote: Well said sir. -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 9:24 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Hi Ishan, What you are suggesting isn't really practical or particularly feasible for a number of reasons. For one thing while the USA is a commercial country a lot of people, including myself, are in financial trouble right now and can't afford to just pay someone to write games or whatever. When my soon to be ex-wife left last fall I had to basically spend all of my savings etc to hire an attorney for the divorce, and as a result of the divorce I am pretty much flat broke. While I wouldn't call myself penniless I am pretty close to it at the moment. Second, due to a number of factors I haven't been working for a long time, and am collecting disability. That means while I have money coming in to pay my bills such as rent, internet, electricity, and so on I don't have a lot left over for extras. Let alone to hire an employee as you suggest. Finally, making audio games isn't likely enough to support one programmer let alone two or more. At most an audio game will bring in maybe $10,000 or so in sales, if it does that well, and then about 25% will come out of it for tax purposes. Say $7,500 clear. Now, we have to split that between two programmers which comes to $3,250 per person which is almost nothing. Bottom line, I could probably get a job working the lunch counter at Burger King, McDonald's, or Wendy's for twice that so making a living off of audio games isn't remotely possible. Much less hiring an employee as you suggest. As far as PCs Games goes who is Charles? Last I knew Phil worked alone, and developed Pac-Man Talks and Sarah by himself. He had a partner when starting out, but he left years ago to per sue a more lucrative career in the mainstream programming industry. So I do believe you have your facts wrong, and need to get them straight before making suggestions that are factually incorrect. Cheers! On 10/16/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas sir! Do you know phil vlasak? if you say yes then do that. Let's come to the point. you are a brilliant and talented person which I ever see in my entire life. so you also know that USA is a capitalist country. If you have money you can do everything. If you hire someone for USAGames for programming and updating and managing you'll gain not lose. your personal life is effecting your business because you are alone. the example of phil vlasak is showing us that Charles who is the main founder of pcsgames is gaining not losing. same thing will apply on you. If you do you'll earn not lose. I think itz a profitable agreement. So Mr champion go for it! What do you think my friends? Mr champion should do that or not. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want
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Hi Thomas sir! Do you know phil vlasak? if you say yes then do that. Let's come to the point. you are a brilliant and talented person which I ever see in my entire life. so you also know that USA is a capitalist country. If you have money you can do everything. If you hire someone for USAGames for programming and updating and managing you'll gain not lose. your personal life is effecting your business because you are alone. the example of phil vlasak is showing us that Charles who is the main founder of pcsgames is gaining not losing. same thing will apply on you. If you do you'll earn not lose. I think itz a profitable agreement. So Mr champion go for it! What do you think my friends? Mr champion should do that or not. Thanks Ishan On 10/15/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: No Ishan, the answer is when it's ready. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: ishan dhami Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 2:32 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Hi William lomas sir! you ask about when the full game will release? The answer is in 2017 or 18 If the game will still on the beta till 2018 then the answer will be never. Thanks Ishan On 10/13/14, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John, Thanks, but that isn't necessary. I have the stuff here to upload it to the USA Games server, but have been too distracted with other things to put it up. It is my hope to put it up in the next day or two. On 10/13/14, john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com wrote: While you're getting the download ready, would you want me to temporarily upload beta 22 to dropbox? -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 7:08 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Hi Hayden, Yes, that is still my intention to put the setup file back on the USA Games site. I've just been distracted with other things and have not gotten to it yet. However, I do have plans to put the setup file back up for download. On 10/12/14, hayden presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas, Several weeks ago, if memory serves, you mentioned putting a setup of the most recent beta of MOTA up on your site. Is this still going to happen? I myself bought a new PC since you last took it down, and would like to have the chance of revisiting what was done with the game. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding
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Hi Ishan, What you are suggesting isn't really practical or particularly feasible for a number of reasons. For one thing while the USA is a commercial country a lot of people, including myself, are in financial trouble right now and can't afford to just pay someone to write games or whatever. When my soon to be ex-wife left last fall I had to basically spend all of my savings etc to hire an attorney for the divorce, and as a result of the divorce I am pretty much flat broke. While I wouldn't call myself penniless I am pretty close to it at the moment. Second, due to a number of factors I haven't been working for a long time, and am collecting disability. That means while I have money coming in to pay my bills such as rent, internet, electricity, and so on I don't have a lot left over for extras. Let alone to hire an employee as you suggest. Finally, making audio games isn't likely enough to support one programmer let alone two or more. At most an audio game will bring in maybe $10,000 or so in sales, if it does that well, and then about 25% will come out of it for tax purposes. Say $7,500 clear. Now, we have to split that between two programmers which comes to $3,250 per person which is almost nothing. Bottom line, I could probably get a job working the lunch counter at Burger King, McDonald's, or Wendy's for twice that so making a living off of audio games isn't remotely possible. Much less hiring an employee as you suggest. As far as PCs Games goes who is Charles? Last I knew Phil worked alone, and developed Pac-Man Talks and Sarah by himself. He had a partner when starting out, but he left years ago to per sue a more lucrative career in the mainstream programming industry. So I do believe you have your facts wrong, and need to get them straight before making suggestions that are factually incorrect. Cheers! On 10/16/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas sir! Do you know phil vlasak? if you say yes then do that. Let's come to the point. you are a brilliant and talented person which I ever see in my entire life. so you also know that USA is a capitalist country. If you have money you can do everything. If you hire someone for USAGames for programming and updating and managing you'll gain not lose. your personal life is effecting your business because you are alone. the example of phil vlasak is showing us that Charles who is the main founder of pcsgames is gaining not losing. same thing will apply on you. If you do you'll earn not lose. I think itz a profitable agreement. So Mr champion go for it! What do you think my friends? Mr champion should do that or not. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Well said sir. -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 9:24 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Hi Ishan, What you are suggesting isn't really practical or particularly feasible for a number of reasons. For one thing while the USA is a commercial country a lot of people, including myself, are in financial trouble right now and can't afford to just pay someone to write games or whatever. When my soon to be ex-wife left last fall I had to basically spend all of my savings etc to hire an attorney for the divorce, and as a result of the divorce I am pretty much flat broke. While I wouldn't call myself penniless I am pretty close to it at the moment. Second, due to a number of factors I haven't been working for a long time, and am collecting disability. That means while I have money coming in to pay my bills such as rent, internet, electricity, and so on I don't have a lot left over for extras. Let alone to hire an employee as you suggest. Finally, making audio games isn't likely enough to support one programmer let alone two or more. At most an audio game will bring in maybe $10,000 or so in sales, if it does that well, and then about 25% will come out of it for tax purposes. Say $7,500 clear. Now, we have to split that between two programmers which comes to $3,250 per person which is almost nothing. Bottom line, I could probably get a job working the lunch counter at Burger King, McDonald's, or Wendy's for twice that so making a living off of audio games isn't remotely possible. Much less hiring an employee as you suggest. As far as PCs Games goes who is Charles? Last I knew Phil worked alone, and developed Pac-Man Talks and Sarah by himself. He had a partner when starting out, but he left years ago to per sue a more lucrative career in the mainstream programming industry. So I do believe you have your facts wrong, and need to get them straight before making suggestions that are factually incorrect. Cheers! On 10/16/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas sir! Do you know phil vlasak? if you say yes then do that. Let's come to the point. you are a brilliant and talented person which I ever see in my entire life. so you also know that USA is a capitalist country. If you have money you can do everything. If you hire someone for USAGames for programming and updating and managing you'll gain not lose. your personal life is effecting your business because you are alone. the example of phil vlasak is showing us that Charles who is the main founder of pcsgames is gaining not losing. same thing will apply on you. If you do you'll earn not lose. I think itz a profitable agreement. So Mr champion go for it! What do you think my friends? Mr champion should do that or not. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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TO hire someone you need money which Tom doesn'thave. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: ishan dhami Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 1:43 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Hi Thomas sir! Do you know phil vlasak? if you say yes then do that. Let's come to the point. you are a brilliant and talented person which I ever see in my entire life. so you also know that USA is a capitalist country. If you have money you can do everything. If you hire someone for USAGames for programming and updating and managing you'll gain not lose. your personal life is effecting your business because you are alone. the example of phil vlasak is showing us that Charles who is the main founder of pcsgames is gaining not losing. same thing will apply on you. If you do you'll earn not lose. I think itz a profitable agreement. So Mr champion go for it! What do you think my friends? Mr champion should do that or not. Thanks Ishan On 10/15/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: No Ishan, the answer is when it's ready. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: ishan dhami Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 2:32 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Hi William lomas sir! you ask about when the full game will release? The answer is in 2017 or 18 If the game will still on the beta till 2018 then the answer will be never. Thanks Ishan On 10/13/14, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John, Thanks, but that isn't necessary. I have the stuff here to upload it to the USA Games server, but have been too distracted with other things to put it up. It is my hope to put it up in the next day or two. On 10/13/14, john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com wrote: While you're getting the download ready, would you want me to temporarily upload beta 22 to dropbox? -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 7:08 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Hi Hayden, Yes, that is still my intention to put the setup file back on the USA Games site. I've just been distracted with other things and have not gotten to it yet. However, I do have plans to put the setup file back up for download. On 10/12/14, hayden presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas, Several weeks ago, if memory serves, you mentioned putting a setup of the most recent beta of MOTA up on your site. Is this still going to happen? I myself bought a new PC since you last took it down, and would like to have the chance of revisiting what was done with the game. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web
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LOL maybe he was thinking of Charles, the ATT NOt-so Natural Voice he often uses. Unless he was thinking of Charles Rivard? Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 7:24 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Hi Ishan, What you are suggesting isn't really practical or particularly feasible for a number of reasons. For one thing while the USA is a commercial country a lot of people, including myself, are in financial trouble right now and can't afford to just pay someone to write games or whatever. When my soon to be ex-wife left last fall I had to basically spend all of my savings etc to hire an attorney for the divorce, and as a result of the divorce I am pretty much flat broke. While I wouldn't call myself penniless I am pretty close to it at the moment. Second, due to a number of factors I haven't been working for a long time, and am collecting disability. That means while I have money coming in to pay my bills such as rent, internet, electricity, and so on I don't have a lot left over for extras. Let alone to hire an employee as you suggest. Finally, making audio games isn't likely enough to support one programmer let alone two or more. At most an audio game will bring in maybe $10,000 or so in sales, if it does that well, and then about 25% will come out of it for tax purposes. Say $7,500 clear. Now, we have to split that between two programmers which comes to $3,250 per person which is almost nothing. Bottom line, I could probably get a job working the lunch counter at Burger King, McDonald's, or Wendy's for twice that so making a living off of audio games isn't remotely possible. Much less hiring an employee as you suggest. As far as PCs Games goes who is Charles? Last I knew Phil worked alone, and developed Pac-Man Talks and Sarah by himself. He had a partner when starting out, but he left years ago to per sue a more lucrative career in the mainstream programming industry. So I do believe you have your facts wrong, and need to get them straight before making suggestions that are factually incorrect. Cheers! On 10/16/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas sir! Do you know phil vlasak? if you say yes then do that. Let's come to the point. you are a brilliant and talented person which I ever see in my entire life. so you also know that USA is a capitalist country. If you have money you can do everything. If you hire someone for USAGames for programming and updating and managing you'll gain not lose. your personal life is effecting your business because you are alone. the example of phil vlasak is showing us that Charles who is the main founder of pcsgames is gaining not losing. same thing will apply on you. If you do you'll earn not lose. I think itz a profitable agreement. So Mr champion go for it! What do you think my friends? Mr champion should do that or not. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Bryan, I don't know, but there is definitely no Charles involved with PCs Games. At least not as a developer etc. I have no idea where Ishan got that idea, but he needs to get his facts straight. That's all I can say. Cheers! On 10/16/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: LOL maybe he was thinking of Charles, the ATT NOt-so Natural Voice he often uses. Unless he was thinking of Charles Rivard? Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I am not thinking about Charles riverd. Thanks Ishan On 10/16/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: LOL maybe he was thinking of Charles, the ATT NOt-so Natural Voice he often uses. Unless he was thinking of Charles Rivard? Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 7:24 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Hi Ishan, What you are suggesting isn't really practical or particularly feasible for a number of reasons. For one thing while the USA is a commercial country a lot of people, including myself, are in financial trouble right now and can't afford to just pay someone to write games or whatever. When my soon to be ex-wife left last fall I had to basically spend all of my savings etc to hire an attorney for the divorce, and as a result of the divorce I am pretty much flat broke. While I wouldn't call myself penniless I am pretty close to it at the moment. Second, due to a number of factors I haven't been working for a long time, and am collecting disability. That means while I have money coming in to pay my bills such as rent, internet, electricity, and so on I don't have a lot left over for extras. Let alone to hire an employee as you suggest. Finally, making audio games isn't likely enough to support one programmer let alone two or more. At most an audio game will bring in maybe $10,000 or so in sales, if it does that well, and then about 25% will come out of it for tax purposes. Say $7,500 clear. Now, we have to split that between two programmers which comes to $3,250 per person which is almost nothing. Bottom line, I could probably get a job working the lunch counter at Burger King, McDonald's, or Wendy's for twice that so making a living off of audio games isn't remotely possible. Much less hiring an employee as you suggest. As far as PCs Games goes who is Charles? Last I knew Phil worked alone, and developed Pac-Man Talks and Sarah by himself. He had a partner when starting out, but he left years ago to per sue a more lucrative career in the mainstream programming industry. So I do believe you have your facts wrong, and need to get them straight before making suggestions that are factually incorrect. Cheers! On 10/16/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas sir! Do you know phil vlasak? if you say yes then do that. Let's come to the point. you are a brilliant and talented person which I ever see in my entire life. so you also know that USA is a capitalist country. If you have money you can do everything. If you hire someone for USAGames for programming and updating and managing you'll gain not lose. your personal life is effecting your business because you are alone. the example of phil vlasak is showing us that Charles who is the main founder of pcsgames is gaining not losing. same thing will apply on you. If you do you'll earn not lose. I think itz a profitable agreement. So Mr champion go for it! What do you think my friends? Mr champion should do that or not. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi, That's for sure. I'm having difficulties finding the finances to finish the game, buy a few sounds I want for it, let alone hiring someone to complete the programming side of things. Besides, hopefully my divorce will be finalized in December and after that I hope to start the new year fresh. One of the things on the schedule for next year is completing MOTA as well as work on other game projects so I should have more time to work on them. I also hope to have a little more money around the first of the new year of which some can be put towards development costs. Not much mind you, but I don't need much to bring this game to some sort of 1.0 status. Cheers! On 10/16/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: TO hire someone you need money which Tom doesn'thave. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi champion! why you shouldn't give your company to an another person to someone and sign an agreement of 50 50 Maybe it will help. as you are saying that you broke all your savings. Why can you apply for a cheap lone? I think If you have another person which maybe your employee can help you emotionally also. So champion go for it! I want mota mota mota in full version. Thanks Ishan On 10/16/14, john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com wrote: Well said sir. -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 9:24 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Hi Ishan, What you are suggesting isn't really practical or particularly feasible for a number of reasons. For one thing while the USA is a commercial country a lot of people, including myself, are in financial trouble right now and can't afford to just pay someone to write games or whatever. When my soon to be ex-wife left last fall I had to basically spend all of my savings etc to hire an attorney for the divorce, and as a result of the divorce I am pretty much flat broke. While I wouldn't call myself penniless I am pretty close to it at the moment. Second, due to a number of factors I haven't been working for a long time, and am collecting disability. That means while I have money coming in to pay my bills such as rent, internet, electricity, and so on I don't have a lot left over for extras. Let alone to hire an employee as you suggest. Finally, making audio games isn't likely enough to support one programmer let alone two or more. At most an audio game will bring in maybe $10,000 or so in sales, if it does that well, and then about 25% will come out of it for tax purposes. Say $7,500 clear. Now, we have to split that between two programmers which comes to $3,250 per person which is almost nothing. Bottom line, I could probably get a job working the lunch counter at Burger King, McDonald's, or Wendy's for twice that so making a living off of audio games isn't remotely possible. Much less hiring an employee as you suggest. As far as PCs Games goes who is Charles? Last I knew Phil worked alone, and developed Pac-Man Talks and Sarah by himself. He had a partner when starting out, but he left years ago to per sue a more lucrative career in the mainstream programming industry. So I do believe you have your facts wrong, and need to get them straight before making suggestions that are factually incorrect. Cheers! On 10/16/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas sir! Do you know phil vlasak? if you say yes then do that. Let's come to the point. you are a brilliant and talented person which I ever see in my entire life. so you also know that USA is a capitalist country. If you have money you can do everything. If you hire someone for USAGames for programming and updating and managing you'll gain not lose. your personal life is effecting your business because you are alone. the example of phil vlasak is showing us that Charles who is the main founder of pcsgames is gaining not losing. same thing will apply on you. If you do you'll earn not lose. I think itz a profitable agreement. So Mr champion go for it! What do you think my friends? Mr champion should do that or not. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Well, I know it's not me, although I did do a demo of Tenpin Alley when it was about to be marketed. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 12:19 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Hi Bryan, I don't know, but there is definitely no Charles involved with PCs Games. At least not as a developer etc. I have no idea where Ishan got that idea, but he needs to get his facts straight. That's all I can say. Cheers! On 10/16/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: LOL maybe he was thinking of Charles, the ATT NOt-so Natural Voice he often uses. Unless he was thinking of Charles Rivard? Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I hope that things go well in your future of game development, but especially in your personal life. That's the most important thing. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 12:15 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Hi, That's for sure. I'm having difficulties finding the finances to finish the game, buy a few sounds I want for it, let alone hiring someone to complete the programming side of things. Besides, hopefully my divorce will be finalized in December and after that I hope to start the new year fresh. One of the things on the schedule for next year is completing MOTA as well as work on other game projects so I should have more time to work on them. I also hope to have a little more money around the first of the new year of which some can be put towards development costs. Not much mind you, but I don't need much to bring this game to some sort of 1.0 status. Cheers! On 10/16/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: TO hire someone you need money which Tom doesn'thave. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi William lomas sir! you ask about when the full game will release? The answer is in 2017 or 18 If the game will still on the beta till 2018 then the answer will be never. Thanks Ishan On 10/13/14, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John, Thanks, but that isn't necessary. I have the stuff here to upload it to the USA Games server, but have been too distracted with other things to put it up. It is my hope to put it up in the next day or two. On 10/13/14, john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com wrote: While you're getting the download ready, would you want me to temporarily upload beta 22 to dropbox? -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 7:08 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Hi Hayden, Yes, that is still my intention to put the setup file back on the USA Games site. I've just been distracted with other things and have not gotten to it yet. However, I do have plans to put the setup file back up for download. On 10/12/14, hayden presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas, Several weeks ago, if memory serves, you mentioned putting a setup of the most recent beta of MOTA up on your site. Is this still going to happen? I myself bought a new PC since you last took it down, and would like to have the chance of revisiting what was done with the game. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I'm not sure if your response was intended as sarcastic, but if so, it failed to come across as such. There is no planned release date for mota; the game is still under temporarily paused development. Trying to speculate a release date won't help anyone, least of all the developer, who as repeatedly explained his reasons for why the game is taking longer than originally intended. - Original Message - From: ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 01:32:01 -0700 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Hi William lomas sir! you ask about when the full game will release? The answer is in 2017 or 18 If the game will still on the beta till 2018 then the answer will be never. Thanks Ishan On 10/13/14, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John, Thanks, but that isn't necessary. I have the stuff here to upload it to the USA Games server, but have been too distracted with other things to put it up. It is my hope to put it up in the next day or two. On 10/13/14, john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com wrote: While you're getting the download ready, would you want me to temporarily upload beta 22 to dropbox? -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 7:08 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Hi Hayden, Yes, that is still my intention to put the setup file back on the USA Games site. I've just been distracted with other things and have not gotten to it yet. However, I do have plans to put the setup file back up for download. On 10/12/14, hayden presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas, Several weeks ago, if memory serves, you mentioned putting a setup of the most recent beta of MOTA up on your site. Is this still going to happen? I myself bought a new PC since you last took it down, and would like to have the chance of revisiting what was done with the game. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Ishan, It isn't your place to make predictions like that. It is possible once my personal situation is straightened out the full release of said game will come out sooner than 2017 or 2018. Saying it will never come out isn't exactly any better because that is essentially saying I have given up on the project which I have not. On 10/15/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi William lomas sir! you ask about when the full game will release? The answer is in 2017 or 18 If the game will still on the beta till 2018 then the answer will be never. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Sigh. Reading something in this vein makes me regret even asking for the download. I should've known someone would have to say something caustic about MOTA's release. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of ishan dhami Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 3:32 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Hi William lomas sir! you ask about when the full game will release? The answer is in 2017 or 18 If the game will still on the beta till 2018 then the answer will be never. Thanks Ishan On 10/13/14, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John, Thanks, but that isn't necessary. I have the stuff here to upload it to the USA Games server, but have been too distracted with other things to put it up. It is my hope to put it up in the next day or two. On 10/13/14, john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com wrote: While you're getting the download ready, would you want me to temporarily upload beta 22 to dropbox? -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 7:08 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Hi Hayden, Yes, that is still my intention to put the setup file back on the USA Games site. I've just been distracted with other things and have not gotten to it yet. However, I do have plans to put the setup file back up for download. On 10/12/14, hayden presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas, Several weeks ago, if memory serves, you mentioned putting a setup of the most recent beta of MOTA up on your site. Is this still going to happen? I myself bought a new PC since you last took it down, and would like to have the chance of revisiting what was done with the game. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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hey thomas, I also think it may be fun to have a montezumas revenge map pack for tacticle battle. oh wow its really raining hard out here in central Pennsylvania united states right now. On 10/15/2014 8:43 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Ishan, It isn't your place to make predictions like that. It is possible once my personal situation is straightened out the full release of said game will come out sooner than 2017 or 2018. Saying it will never come out isn't exactly any better because that is essentially saying I have given up on the project which I have not. On 10/15/14, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi William lomas sir! you ask about when the full game will release? The answer is in 2017 or 18 If the game will still on the beta till 2018 then the answer will be never. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi haiden. Your not the only person who would like to see some of Tom's work available for people to enjoy, and as to the asserbic comments, well well as I thought recently of a certain individual on audiogames.net, when a person has negative opinions about almost everything, how important does that make their negative view of anything? Same could be said for positive opinions of course, though that situation is far rarer. Dark. Zagreus sits inside your head, Zagreus lives among the dead, Zagreus sees you in your bed, And eats you when you're sleeping. Zagreus at the end of days, Zagreus lies all other ways, Zagreus comes when time's a maze, And all of history's weeping. Zagreus taking time apart., Zagreus fears the hero heart, Zagreus seeks the final part, The reward that he is reaping. Zagreus sings when all is lost, Zagreus takes all those he's crossed, Zagreus wins and all is cost, The hero's hearts he's keeping. Zagreus seeks the hero's ship, Zagreus needs the web to rip, Zagreus sups time at a drip, And life aside, he's sweeping. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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No Ishan, the answer is when it's ready. Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -Original Message- From: ishan dhami Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 2:32 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Hi William lomas sir! you ask about when the full game will release? The answer is in 2017 or 18 If the game will still on the beta till 2018 then the answer will be never. Thanks Ishan On 10/13/14, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John, Thanks, but that isn't necessary. I have the stuff here to upload it to the USA Games server, but have been too distracted with other things to put it up. It is my hope to put it up in the next day or two. On 10/13/14, john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com wrote: While you're getting the download ready, would you want me to temporarily upload beta 22 to dropbox? -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 7:08 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Hi Hayden, Yes, that is still my intention to put the setup file back on the USA Games site. I've just been distracted with other things and have not gotten to it yet. However, I do have plans to put the setup file back up for download. On 10/12/14, hayden presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas, Several weeks ago, if memory serves, you mentioned putting a setup of the most recent beta of MOTA up on your site. Is this still going to happen? I myself bought a new PC since you last took it down, and would like to have the chance of revisiting what was done with the game. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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same here On 10/13/14, hayden presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, Assuming this would be ok with Thomas, I would greatly appreciate that. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of john Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 2:48 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA I believe that Thomas was planning to upload beta 18 by popular request, and said that it might take a while. That said, a bit of determined digging and a really helpful person got me a copy of beta22 (which I've happily played about 150 times since), which I can upload if that's ok with Thomas. I'd still love to see beta18, though. -- From: hayden presley hdpres...@hotmail.com Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 11:51 AM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Hi Thomas, Several weeks ago, if memory serves, you mentioned putting a setup of the most recent beta of MOTA up on your site. Is this still going to happen? I myself bought a new PC since you last took it down, and would like to have the chance of revisiting what was done with the game. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- Lenron Brown Cell: 985-271-2832 Skype: ron.brown762 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Hayden, Yes, that is still my intention to put the setup file back on the USA Games site. I've just been distracted with other things and have not gotten to it yet. However, I do have plans to put the setup file back up for download. On 10/12/14, hayden presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas, Several weeks ago, if memory serves, you mentioned putting a setup of the most recent beta of MOTA up on your site. Is this still going to happen? I myself bought a new PC since you last took it down, and would like to have the chance of revisiting what was done with the game. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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any idea as to when the ful game will be ready?cheersWill Sent from my iPhone On 13 Oct 2014, at 12:08, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Hayden, Yes, that is still my intention to put the setup file back on the USA Games site. I've just been distracted with other things and have not gotten to it yet. However, I do have plans to put the setup file back up for download. On 10/12/14, hayden presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas, Several weeks ago, if memory serves, you mentioned putting a setup of the most recent beta of MOTA up on your site. Is this still going to happen? I myself bought a new PC since you last took it down, and would like to have the chance of revisiting what was done with the game. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Will, Honestly, I haven't a clue. You should know by now I am not going to even speculate at a date of release when people will inevitably hold me to it regardless of what is going on in my personal life. So I am not even going to speculate at this point. On 10/13/14, william lomas w.lo...@icloud.com wrote: any idea as to when the ful game will be ready?cheersWill Sent from my iPhone --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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While you're getting the download ready, would you want me to temporarily upload beta 22 to dropbox? -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 7:08 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Hi Hayden, Yes, that is still my intention to put the setup file back on the USA Games site. I've just been distracted with other things and have not gotten to it yet. However, I do have plans to put the setup file back up for download. On 10/12/14, hayden presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas, Several weeks ago, if memory serves, you mentioned putting a setup of the most recent beta of MOTA up on your site. Is this still going to happen? I myself bought a new PC since you last took it down, and would like to have the chance of revisiting what was done with the game. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi John, Thanks, but that isn't necessary. I have the stuff here to upload it to the USA Games server, but have been too distracted with other things to put it up. It is my hope to put it up in the next day or two. On 10/13/14, john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com wrote: While you're getting the download ready, would you want me to temporarily upload beta 22 to dropbox? -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 7:08 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Hi Hayden, Yes, that is still my intention to put the setup file back on the USA Games site. I've just been distracted with other things and have not gotten to it yet. However, I do have plans to put the setup file back up for download. On 10/12/14, hayden presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas, Several weeks ago, if memory serves, you mentioned putting a setup of the most recent beta of MOTA up on your site. Is this still going to happen? I myself bought a new PC since you last took it down, and would like to have the chance of revisiting what was done with the game. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I believe that Thomas was planning to upload beta 18 by popular request, and said that it might take a while. That said, a bit of determined digging and a really helpful person got me a copy of beta22 (which I've happily played about 150 times since), which I can upload if that's ok with Thomas. I'd still love to see beta18, though. -- From: hayden presley hdpres...@hotmail.com Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 11:51 AM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Hi Thomas, Several weeks ago, if memory serves, you mentioned putting a setup of the most recent beta of MOTA up on your site. Is this still going to happen? I myself bought a new PC since you last took it down, and would like to have the chance of revisiting what was done with the game. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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WHAT IS SPECIAL ABOUT BETA 18? On 10/12/2014 3:48 PM, john wrote: I believe that Thomas was planning to upload beta 18 by popular request, and said that it might take a while. That said, a bit of determined digging and a really helpful person got me a copy of beta22 (which I've happily played about 150 times since), which I can upload if that's ok with Thomas. I'd still love to see beta18, though. -- From: hayden presley hdpres...@hotmail.com Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 11:51 AM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Hi Thomas, Several weeks ago, if memory serves, you mentioned putting a setup of the most recent beta of MOTA up on your site. Is this still going to happen? I myself bought a new PC since you last took it down, and would like to have the chance of revisiting what was done with the game. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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The sounds were more popular, and a good bit of the gameplay was more fluid. There were a couple bugs, but in some ways they made it more enjoyable (at least for me). -- From: Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 9:14 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA WHAT IS SPECIAL ABOUT BETA 18? On 10/12/2014 3:48 PM, john wrote: I believe that Thomas was planning to upload beta 18 by popular request, and said that it might take a while. That said, a bit of determined digging and a really helpful person got me a copy of beta22 (which I've happily played about 150 times since), which I can upload if that's ok with Thomas. I'd still love to see beta18, though. -- From: hayden presley hdpres...@hotmail.com Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 11:51 AM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Hi Thomas, Several weeks ago, if memory serves, you mentioned putting a setup of the most recent beta of MOTA up on your site. Is this still going to happen? I myself bought a new PC since you last took it down, and would like to have the chance of revisiting what was done with the game. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA
Hmmm. I can't say that I particularly agree there. Could you define what more popular and fluid means in this case? Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of john Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 8:49 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA The sounds were more popular, and a good bit of the gameplay was more fluid. There were a couple bugs, but in some ways they made it more enjoyable (at least for me). -- From: Josh Kennedy joshknnd1...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 9:14 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA WHAT IS SPECIAL ABOUT BETA 18? On 10/12/2014 3:48 PM, john wrote: I believe that Thomas was planning to upload beta 18 by popular request, and said that it might take a while. That said, a bit of determined digging and a really helpful person got me a copy of beta22 (which I've happily played about 150 times since), which I can upload if that's ok with Thomas. I'd still love to see beta18, though. -- From: hayden presley hdpres...@hotmail.com Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 11:51 AM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Hi Thomas, Several weeks ago, if memory serves, you mentioned putting a setup of the most recent beta of MOTA up on your site. Is this still going to happen? I myself bought a new PC since you last took it down, and would like to have the chance of revisiting what was done with the game. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA
Hi, Assuming this would be ok with Thomas, I would greatly appreciate that. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of john Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 2:48 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA I believe that Thomas was planning to upload beta 18 by popular request, and said that it might take a while. That said, a bit of determined digging and a really helpful person got me a copy of beta22 (which I've happily played about 150 times since), which I can upload if that's ok with Thomas. I'd still love to see beta18, though. -- From: hayden presley hdpres...@hotmail.com Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 11:51 AM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] An Inquiry about MOTA Hi Thomas, Several weeks ago, if memory serves, you mentioned putting a setup of the most recent beta of MOTA up on your site. Is this still going to happen? I myself bought a new PC since you last took it down, and would like to have the chance of revisiting what was done with the game. Best Regards, Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
