Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something New toPlay

2013-03-24 Thread dark
Well, while I'm sorry to hear about the security business (some peoplle are just idiots), I'm glad the Ai is working and that things are progressing. As I said, i don't personally resent the time spent on swamp, it's a genre of games we've not had playable in audio, indeed when i get back to my

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something NewtoPlay

2013-03-24 Thread dark
Hi aprone. I can imagine hackers trying to muck up the game to cheat, but to do it simply to cause trouble is down right scummy, particularly because it's likely these hackers are probably visually impared themselves since they wouldn't have heard of the game otherwise, which makes it doubly

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something NewtoPlay

2013-03-24 Thread Jeremy Kaldobsky
Dark, From sighted indie games of my past, I'm used to the idea of hackers trying to ruin everyone's fun, so that doesn't upset me as much as others might think. Yeah it does annoy me, but I don't take it quite as personal as maybe I should, just because I've seen it for so many years.

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something NewtoPlay

2013-03-24 Thread Dennis Towne
Jeremy, It's highly unlikely that the attacks you're seeing are from your players. There's not really any incentive for them, and direct attacks are so easy to track back that if it were one of your players, you should be able to smash them easily. I say this because we get literally thousands

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something NewtoPlay

2013-03-24 Thread dark
Wow, that's even scummier than I thought, some people are just naturally vandals. one thing I do wonder however, is how games like Alteraeon, cor exiles, kingdom of laothing etc stay up. Perhaps, it would be worth having words with dentin, the Ce dev (I can pass on her mail if you like), and

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something NewtoPlay

2013-03-24 Thread Jeremy Kaldobsky
Dennis, they do trace back to actual players. I know that the internet is swarmed with automated attacks, and I ignore those as well. I'm specifically referring to attacks that easily trace back to Swamp players that have been banned. One of the 2 recent attacks left enough information that

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something NewtoPlay

2013-03-24 Thread Dennis Towne
Dark, It's not really vandals. It's the botnet guys, and they don't care one whit about mudding or audio games or anything else. All they're trying to do is get machines that they can add to their botnet. The basic idea is that the bad guys get a huge number of computers under central control,

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something NewtoPlay

2013-03-24 Thread enes
hi aprone, since most of these hackers are chinese maybe they chinese government offers free hacking courses for these people since now you are a potential target for them especially after swampnet you probably should consider getting a firewall or something for your other computers you

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something NewtoPlay

2013-03-24 Thread Dennis Towne
Jeremy, That's pretty weird. I haven't seen a machine based attack worth talking about from my player base in nearly fifteen years, and in that case I just called up his provider and got his accounts revoked. I'm sure there have been other hack attempts, but I'd have to waste time rooting

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something NewtoPlay

2013-03-24 Thread Jeremy Kaldobsky
I haven't contacted any providers lately because it hasn't been helping. The last few times I bothered to contact anyone the information traced back to small businesses (coffee shop type things) or schools, and they just ignored me. I doubt they care to lose any business over some random guy

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something NewtoPlay

2013-03-24 Thread Willem Venter
hi all. While the internet offers its own anonymity and someone can change their IP address and login name the audio gaming community is still a small one. I think that the well established audio game makers who have evidence about specific gamers should publish it in order to warn other people.

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something NewtoPlay

2013-03-24 Thread shaun everiss
true sometimes we get lucky and some contry mainly the us manages with a lot of mucking about over several years of looking round to close one botnet down, however they only seem to go after the majorly serious ones, so sertainly going after these bad guys is quite resource hungry. I think

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something NewtoPlay

2013-03-24 Thread shaun everiss
china does get a bad wrap but they seem to be at the forefrunt of a lot of the goings on these days saying that they make all the computers and other things they basically have taken over most of the world. wouldn't make sence to get anymore. At 07:59 AM 3/25/2013, you wrote: hi aprone, since

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something NewtoPlay

2013-03-24 Thread shaun everiss
on that note I'd like to see a game that would have stratogy, puzzles, action, adventure and maybe a few other things put into one at some point down the road. ofcause it would be massive. At 08:42 AM 3/25/2013, you wrote: I haven't contacted any providers lately because it hasn't been

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something NewtoPlay

2013-03-24 Thread john
Is this a case of we only have so long left, or do you think they'll eventually give up? - Original Message - From: Jeremy Kaldobsky jer...@kaldobsky.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 12:42:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something NewtoPlay

2013-03-24 Thread john
That's an interesting idea. I just wonder if we aren't already to big of a group for that to work effectively.. - Original Message - From: Willem Venter dwill...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 22:28:19 +0200 Subject: Re: [Audyssey

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something NewtoPlay

2013-03-24 Thread dark
Hi Dennis. Well that doesn't surprise me, not with the amount of spambots we regularly have to boot off the forums on audiogames.net, though I never actually realized the same people were behind full attacks on servers, I thought their main purpose was to generate E-mail or other forms of

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something NewtoPlay

2013-03-23 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Al, Yes, I've seen War Games, but it has been several years ago. However, I take your point as it seems all too possible that some cracker might do something like that. On 3/23/13, Allan Thompson allan1.thomp...@cox.net wrote: It is truly a shame... All this reminds me of Matthew Broderick

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something New toPlay

2013-03-23 Thread Thomas Ward
Hello Enes, That is why I distinguish between hackers and crackers. Hackers, white hats, are good guys who try to steel information for some legit cause. Crackers, black hats, are bad guys who give hackers a bad name. In this case its obviously a case of the latter not the former. On 3/23/13,

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something NewtoPlay

2013-03-23 Thread shaun everiss
. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something NewtoPlay Hi Al, The internet is a mean and nasty place out there. You'd be surprised how many talented people out

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something NewtoPlay

2013-03-23 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, Please, take this off list. It is way off topic. Thanks. On 3/23/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: I have wargames 1 and 2. 2 was even worse. a computer that was looking for terrorists managed to get in a loop after various events, and tried to get rid of someone

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something New to Play

2013-03-22 Thread Jeremy Kaldobsky
Dark, for a very long time it had gotten so bad that literally 100% of work on Swamp was only to keep up with the endless assault of hackers. Every now and then things would ease up, or I'd get some extra free time, and I would make a little actual progress toward the next set of features or

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something New toPlay

2013-03-22 Thread Allan Thompson
to gain? al The truth will set you free Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D. - Original Message - From: Jeremy Kaldobsky To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something New toPlay

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something New toPlay

2013-03-22 Thread Jeremy Kaldobsky
Some of the people are just cheaters looking to give themselves an unfair advantage over the other players, but a good percentage are doing it for malicious purposes. We get hackers that try to crash the server so that no one can play. We get hackers that try to disrupt other players' clients

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something New toPlay

2013-03-22 Thread Christina
That really sucks. I know that's not adequate. Good luck keeping them out. Christina -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Kaldobsky Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 3:57 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something New to Play

2013-03-22 Thread shaun everiss
true aprone and anyway once you have everything in that can be in there should be enough customisation to keep swamp supporting itself. True there will still be updates, but once the core stuff is done not to much. At 05:40 AM 3/23/2013, you wrote: Dark, for a very long time it had gotten so

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something NewtoPlay

2013-03-22 Thread Allan Thompson
. al The truth will set you free Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D. - Original Message - From: Jeremy Kaldobsky To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something NewtoPlay Some of the people

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something NewtoPlay

2013-03-22 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Al, The internet is a mean and nasty place out there. You'd be surprised how many talented people out there use their computer technical skills just for spite or to break something just because they can. Its amazing how many hackers are asked why they did it and the best answer they can give

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something New toPlay

2013-03-22 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Al, Cheap thrills. That is why most crackers do it. A lot of the crackers out there are teenagers or people who are just immature adults who like breaking into computers and messing things up for a laugh. The mentality here is like the grade school bully who picks on everyone else during

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something NewtoPlay

2013-03-22 Thread shaun everiss
You got that tom, I was talking to a tech I usually chat with and he recons that if all the hackers got together they could actually do something great only if they made a name for themselves. I had someone design a weather program using xml it works and I use it however for what it is its

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something NewtoPlay

2013-03-22 Thread Allan Thompson
To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something NewtoPlay Hi Al, The internet is a mean and nasty place out there. You'd be surprised how many talented people out there use their computer technical skills

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something New to Play

2013-03-22 Thread enes
hello, what about the forth map that was completed, the new weapons and missions? have you to decided against coding those On 3/22/2013 10:27 PM, shaun everiss wrote: true aprone and anyway once you have everything in that can be in there should be enough customisation to keep swamp supporting

Re: [Audyssey] Aprones games was Re: Looking For Something New toPlay

2013-03-22 Thread enes
hi thomas, you forgot to mention the good hackers the hackers who believe in freedom information who hack into databases of governments and corpurations to expose corruption and dirty secrets I don't believe any hackers who attack aprone's server fit that catagory On 3/23/2013 5:24 AM, Thomas

Re: [Audyssey] aprones games

2011-03-30 Thread Jeremy Kaldobsky
I would actually recommend asking friends if anyone has an extra mouse. A lot of people upgrade their equipment or buy another computer and end up with 1, or more, extra mice and keyboards. This can be a free way to pick up a mouse to use. With a mouse, the game will play just as well for

Re: [Audyssey] aprones games

2011-03-30 Thread william lomas
mac be better though wink. what is the latest version of daytona? wish my netbook mouse was acceptalbe as i don't want to carry around an extra mouse just to play the games lol On 30 Mar 2011, at 16:42, Jeremy Kaldobsky wrote: I would actually recommend asking friends if anyone has an extra

Re: [Audyssey] aprones games

2011-03-30 Thread Jeremy Kaldobsky
lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com wrote: From: william lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Audyssey] aprones games To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 12:00 PM mac be better though wink. what is the latest version of daytona? wish my netbook mouse