Re: [Audyssey] teamtalk server not able to happen
And what's that supposed to mean? - Original Message - From: Gary Whittington gary...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 1:05 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] teamtalk server not able to happen You little Dash, right before Christmas. YOu Uncle Crash Spelling +++ Like to Wish my Little Buddy a Merry Christmas. From your Captain. Phasers on 4! Prince - Original Message - From: Orin orin8...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] teamtalk server not able to happen Comcast does, in fact, let you forward and use ports. Certain general ones though are of course limited to certain services but I don't think that's a comcast issue. If all else fails, DMZ your router and try again, see if it works. If it does there's a port forwarding issue. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Dec 17, 2010, at 9:11 PM, Nick Helms wrote: Unfortunetly, after many unhappy hours of trying, I am forced to conclude that I am either missing something, or that comcast doesn't let their customers forward and use ports. I followed the stepps, I'm almost 100% posative I've done everything right, and I just cannot get it to work. Although I am quite disappointed that this won't happen, I must conclude that it won't work. thanks, Nick -- Nick Helms I will not lie, cheat, or steal, or tolerate those who do. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] teamtalk server not able to happen
Nick, make sure you're entering the correct internal IP. on my router you enter the config panel with theIP ending at 01, so I thought it was the internal. as it turned out though it was not 01, it was 1. may seem like a small thing but it may make a hell of a difference. also check out portforward.com. - Original Message - From: Nick Helms nick.he...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 5:40 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] teamtalk server not able to happen Thanks for the feadback. I'll see what I can do to resolve these issues. It will happen. Right now, there' just no telling how soon I can get it to happen. If not before the end of this year then certainlly before much of 2011 has elapsed. On 12/18/10, Gary Whittington gary...@cableone.net wrote: Hey, Josh, come on in the Crash Theater on FTP to just wish me Merry Christmas. Like to also invitge my old buddies. Infact I Support a Blind Gamer's Reunion. On FTP, What's was that Toy? Praincer Hosting your Wish Toys and those without shame toys. Crash in his Rain Deer Bell and Beers. Shot from your Past in OTR will be at 4:15PM ET. I dare ya, Event brought to you by friends of Http://RUSC.comRUSC Doublely DASHER - Original Message - From: Orin orin8...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] teamtalk server not able to happen Comcast does, in fact, let you forward and use ports. Certain general ones though are of course limited to certain services but I don't think that's a comcast issue. If all else fails, DMZ your router and try again, see if it works. If it does there's a port forwarding issue. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Dec 17, 2010, at 9:11 PM, Nick Helms wrote: Unfortunetly, after many unhappy hours of trying, I am forced to conclude that I am either missing something, or that comcast doesn't let their customers forward and use ports. I followed the stepps, I'm almost 100% posative I've done everything right, and I just cannot get it to work. Although I am quite disappointed that this won't happen, I must conclude that it won't work. thanks, Nick -- Nick Helms I will not lie, cheat, or steal, or tolerate those who do. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- Nick Helms I will not lie, cheat, or steal, or tolerate those who do. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5266 (20100709) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5266 (20100709) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All
Re: [Audyssey] teamtalk server not able to happen
Comcast does, in fact, let you forward and use ports. Certain general ones though are of course limited to certain services but I don't think that's a comcast issue. If all else fails, DMZ your router and try again, see if it works. If it does there's a port forwarding issue. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Dec 17, 2010, at 9:11 PM, Nick Helms wrote: Unfortunetly, after many unhappy hours of trying, I am forced to conclude that I am either missing something, or that comcast doesn't let their customers forward and use ports. I followed the stepps, I'm almost 100% posative I've done everything right, and I just cannot get it to work. Although I am quite disappointed that this won't happen, I must conclude that it won't work. thanks, Nick -- Nick Helms I will not lie, cheat, or steal, or tolerate those who do. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] teamtalk server not able to happen
You little Dash, right before Christmas. YOu Uncle Crash Spelling +++ Like to Wish my Little Buddy a Merry Christmas. From your Captain. Phasers on 4! Prince - Original Message - From: Orin orin8...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] teamtalk server not able to happen Comcast does, in fact, let you forward and use ports. Certain general ones though are of course limited to certain services but I don't think that's a comcast issue. If all else fails, DMZ your router and try again, see if it works. If it does there's a port forwarding issue. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Dec 17, 2010, at 9:11 PM, Nick Helms wrote: Unfortunetly, after many unhappy hours of trying, I am forced to conclude that I am either missing something, or that comcast doesn't let their customers forward and use ports. I followed the stepps, I'm almost 100% posative I've done everything right, and I just cannot get it to work. Although I am quite disappointed that this won't happen, I must conclude that it won't work. thanks, Nick -- Nick Helms I will not lie, cheat, or steal, or tolerate those who do. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] teamtalk server not able to happen
Hey, Josh, come on in the Crash Theater on FTP to just wish me Merry Christmas. Like to also invitge my old buddies. Infact I Support a Blind Gamer's Reunion. On FTP, What's was that Toy? Praincer Hosting your Wish Toys and those without shame toys. Crash in his Rain Deer Bell and Beers. Shot from your Past in OTR will be at 4:15PM ET. I dare ya, Event brought to you by friends of Http://RUSC.comRUSC Doublely DASHER - Original Message - From: Orin orin8...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] teamtalk server not able to happen Comcast does, in fact, let you forward and use ports. Certain general ones though are of course limited to certain services but I don't think that's a comcast issue. If all else fails, DMZ your router and try again, see if it works. If it does there's a port forwarding issue. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Dec 17, 2010, at 9:11 PM, Nick Helms wrote: Unfortunetly, after many unhappy hours of trying, I am forced to conclude that I am either missing something, or that comcast doesn't let their customers forward and use ports. I followed the stepps, I'm almost 100% posative I've done everything right, and I just cannot get it to work. Although I am quite disappointed that this won't happen, I must conclude that it won't work. thanks, Nick -- Nick Helms I will not lie, cheat, or steal, or tolerate those who do. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] teamtalk server not able to happen
Thanks for the feadback. I'll see what I can do to resolve these issues. It will happen. Right now, there' just no telling how soon I can get it to happen. If not before the end of this year then certainlly before much of 2011 has elapsed. On 12/18/10, Gary Whittington gary...@cableone.net wrote: Hey, Josh, come on in the Crash Theater on FTP to just wish me Merry Christmas. Like to also invitge my old buddies. Infact I Support a Blind Gamer's Reunion. On FTP, What's was that Toy? Praincer Hosting your Wish Toys and those without shame toys. Crash in his Rain Deer Bell and Beers. Shot from your Past in OTR will be at 4:15PM ET. I dare ya, Event brought to you by friends of Http://RUSC.comRUSC Doublely DASHER - Original Message - From: Orin orin8...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] teamtalk server not able to happen Comcast does, in fact, let you forward and use ports. Certain general ones though are of course limited to certain services but I don't think that's a comcast issue. If all else fails, DMZ your router and try again, see if it works. If it does there's a port forwarding issue. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Dec 17, 2010, at 9:11 PM, Nick Helms wrote: Unfortunetly, after many unhappy hours of trying, I am forced to conclude that I am either missing something, or that comcast doesn't let their customers forward and use ports. I followed the stepps, I'm almost 100% posative I've done everything right, and I just cannot get it to work. Although I am quite disappointed that this won't happen, I must conclude that it won't work. thanks, Nick -- Nick Helms I will not lie, cheat, or steal, or tolerate those who do. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- Nick Helms I will not lie, cheat, or steal, or tolerate those who do. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] teamtalk server not able to happen
I know this is a bit broad, and I will try to get it up before too long, but I don't want to make a promise I can't keep. thank you all so much for your support of the idea and for understanding and providing feadback on my issues. talk to you soon, preferably on Teamtalk! best, Nick On 12/18/10, Nick Helms nick.he...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the feadback. I'll see what I can do to resolve these issues. It will happen. Right now, there' just no telling how soon I can get it to happen. If not before the end of this year then certainlly before much of 2011 has elapsed. On 12/18/10, Gary Whittington gary...@cableone.net wrote: Hey, Josh, come on in the Crash Theater on FTP to just wish me Merry Christmas. Like to also invitge my old buddies. Infact I Support a Blind Gamer's Reunion. On FTP, What's was that Toy? Praincer Hosting your Wish Toys and those without shame toys. Crash in his Rain Deer Bell and Beers. Shot from your Past in OTR will be at 4:15PM ET. I dare ya, Event brought to you by friends of Http://RUSC.comRUSC Doublely DASHER - Original Message - From: Orin orin8...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] teamtalk server not able to happen Comcast does, in fact, let you forward and use ports. Certain general ones though are of course limited to certain services but I don't think that's a comcast issue. If all else fails, DMZ your router and try again, see if it works. If it does there's a port forwarding issue. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Dec 17, 2010, at 9:11 PM, Nick Helms wrote: Unfortunetly, after many unhappy hours of trying, I am forced to conclude that I am either missing something, or that comcast doesn't let their customers forward and use ports. I followed the stepps, I'm almost 100% posative I've done everything right, and I just cannot get it to work. Although I am quite disappointed that this won't happen, I must conclude that it won't work. thanks, Nick -- Nick Helms I will not lie, cheat, or steal, or tolerate those who do. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- Nick Helms I will not lie, cheat, or steal, or tolerate those who do. -- Nick Helms I will not lie, cheat, or steal, or tolerate those who do. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] teamtalk server not able to happen
Hi, Just to let you all know I have a TeamTalk server running on linuxsystem.dyndns.org It's a teamTalk4 server, jsut connect to the default ports. I'm not usually on but if people connect just let me know and I'll get on. On 12/19/10, Nick Helms nick.he...@gmail.com wrote: I know this is a bit broad, and I will try to get it up before too long, but I don't want to make a promise I can't keep. thank you all so much for your support of the idea and for understanding and providing feadback on my issues. talk to you soon, preferably on Teamtalk! best, Nick On 12/18/10, Nick Helms nick.he...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the feadback. I'll see what I can do to resolve these issues. It will happen. Right now, there' just no telling how soon I can get it to happen. If not before the end of this year then certainlly before much of 2011 has elapsed. On 12/18/10, Gary Whittington gary...@cableone.net wrote: Hey, Josh, come on in the Crash Theater on FTP to just wish me Merry Christmas. Like to also invitge my old buddies. Infact I Support a Blind Gamer's Reunion. On FTP, What's was that Toy? Praincer Hosting your Wish Toys and those without shame toys. Crash in his Rain Deer Bell and Beers. Shot from your Past in OTR will be at 4:15PM ET. I dare ya, Event brought to you by friends of Http://RUSC.comRUSC Doublely DASHER - Original Message - From: Orin orin8...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] teamtalk server not able to happen Comcast does, in fact, let you forward and use ports. Certain general ones though are of course limited to certain services but I don't think that's a comcast issue. If all else fails, DMZ your router and try again, see if it works. If it does there's a port forwarding issue. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Dec 17, 2010, at 9:11 PM, Nick Helms wrote: Unfortunetly, after many unhappy hours of trying, I am forced to conclude that I am either missing something, or that comcast doesn't let their customers forward and use ports. I followed the stepps, I'm almost 100% posative I've done everything right, and I just cannot get it to work. Although I am quite disappointed that this won't happen, I must conclude that it won't work. thanks, Nick -- Nick Helms I will not lie, cheat, or steal, or tolerate those who do. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- Nick Helms I will not lie, cheat, or steal, or tolerate those who do. -- Nick Helms I will not lie, cheat, or steal, or tolerate those who do. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions