g_b Cover article on Gays Coming Out in Brunch magazine, Hindustan Times
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g_b mail from delhi subscriber--I have been diagnised HIV+. Advice needed
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g_b Leaving India? Get tax clearance!
Leaving India? Get tax clearance! Toral C Mathuria, Outlook Money | April 24, 2006 Finally, you got that long-awaited letter of appointment from the MNC in the Gulf. But make sure you don't miss out on the income tax clearance certificate in the rush to catch the next flight. The tax authorities can ask the immigration authorities to stop you from boarding if you do not have one. All your bags are packed and you're ready to go. Just remember, if you're travelling abroad, you need to get more than your travel plans in order. Yes, your passport, visas, tickets and foreign exchange are all vital, but there's also the possibility that you'll have to produce an income tax clearance certificate before you take off. This is not something that's always asked for, but on the off chance that the immigration authorities want it, you'll have to be able to produce it on demand at the time of boarding a flight out of the country. The tax clearance certificate is a notice from the income tax department which states that you have discharged your tax liabilities at the time of your departure and that the department has no objection to your leaving the country. The immigration authorities ask for this certificate only from certain people, particularly those who are leaving the country for good or for an uncertain period. So if you're headed to the Caribbean for a summer holiday, it's unlikely that you'll be asked for this paper. The objective of asking for the certificate is to ensure that the government does not lose out on revenue from those who may be leaving the country forever. Of course, as with all things bureaucratic, it was so far a tiresome business to get this certificate. Now, however, the procedure has been simplified and it's no longer a bothersome task to apply for and get the tax clearance certificate. So, how does it work? And do you fall in the category of persons who may have to produce the certificate? We take a look. Indian citizens If you are a resident Indian citizen and going abroad on a tourist visa, you don't have to bother with getting a tax clearance certificate. Again, you don't need the formal notice if you are travelling abroad for a definite period on a business visa or any other visa. The tax authorities do not really take notice of such short trips, and you don't need to go through the process of applying for tax clearance. For immigrants: If you are a resident Indian who is emigrating or going abroad for a very long period on work, you must fulfil the conditions set out in Sub-Section 1A of Section 230 of the Income Tax Act, which came into effect from 1 June 2003. You have to fill in Form 30C and submit it to the designated tax authority. The form asks for details like your permanent account number, the purpose of your travel and the estimated period of stay abroad. If you don't have a PAN or if your total income is not liable to tax, submit a self-declared certificate along with Form 30C. This is about all you have to do in this case, as you will not then require any tax clearance certificate from the IT Department. Once the tax department receives Form 30C, it processes the information and sends you a notice about whether it is necessary for you to obtain a tax clearance certificate or not. The clearance certificate is issued only after a proper verification of your tax status. In some cases, people involved in serious financial irregularities may want to flee the country without being present during the investigation of cases filed against them by the income tax and wealth tax departments. In such cases, the tax authorities warn the immigration authorities to seek a tax clearance certificate before immigration clearance. Guarantees: If you are leaving the country to work abroad, a guarantee from your employer may be sufficient to satisfy the tax and immigration authorities. The guarantee can be for a specific period, depending on the terms of your employment, and can also cover one or more trips you may have to make abroad. In case you plan to migrate to another country, a guarantee from any other person residing and assessed to tax in India can be provided to the income tax authorities. In both cases (employer guarantee or otherwise), the guarantor becomes responsible for payment of taxes on your behalf and the income tax department can initiate recovery proceedings against the guarantor if you default on tax payments. Non-Resident Indians If you are a Non-Resident Indian, you don't need a clearance certificate if you are visiting the country as a tourist or for any purpose not connected with your business or profession. But if you are not a resident Indian, but visit India in connection with business, profession or employment, and derive income from any source in India, you must apply for a certificate before leaving the country. This is essentially a no-objection certificate (NOC) from the
g_b New HIV infections in India almost triple in 2005
New HIV infections in India almost triple in 2005 NEW DELHI - New HIV infections in India almost tripled in 2005 from the previous year, but were far below the half a million new cases seen in 2003, a government report said Monday. The report, which drew on samples from government hospitals nationwide, said 5.206 million adult people are HIV infected, India's National AIDS Control Organisation (NACO) said. The latest data shows that India has 72,000 new HIV cases, increasing the overall number infected by 1.4 percent. In 2004, the country reported only 28,000 new cases, which was much lower than the 520,000 new infections reported in 2003. The number of Indians infected with HIV, the virus that causes AIDS, is second only to South Africa where as many as 6 million people are infected. However, the rate of infection in the nation of 1.1 billion people is 0.91 percent, well below South Africa and other sub-Saharan countries as India focuses on high-risk population to control the spread, NACO said. But K. Sujatha Rao, the chief of NACO, told Press Trust of India news agency, that although India could track infections better and was spending more money on prevention, the government did not know how many people were dying of AIDS. The Indian Council of Medical Research is conducting a study to estimate the number of death linked to HIV and results are expected in two months, Rao said. However, the study may have gaps because 90 percent of the infected people do not know that they carried the virus, Rao said. A study by the British medical journal The Lancet last month suggested a sharp slowdown in the rate of new infections in India's high-prevalence southern states. Six Indian states -- Tamil Nadu, Maharashtra, Andhra Pradesh and Karnataka in the south and Manipur and Nagaland in the northeast -- account for almost two thirds of HIV infections. Richard Feachem, executive director of the Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria, said in a recent report that rates of infection may be higher than official statistics in poor northern states and that India had outstripped South Africa as the country with the highest tally of people infected. Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (attachments are removed in the digest mode. You get one or two digest mails per day containing all emails, minus pictures/attachments) No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rss feed: http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com/maillist.xml Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. To post mates/freinds wanted log on to http://pub35.bravenet.com/classified/show.php?usernum=2998156902 YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "gay_bombay" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
g_b Forbes' 20 Most Influential Business Books
Forbes' 20 Most Influential Business Books * In Search of Excellence by Tom Peters and Robert Waterman (1982) * Built to Last by Jim Collins and Jerry Porras (1994) * Reengineering the Corporation by Michael Hammer and Jim Champy (1993) * Barbarians at the Gate by Bryan Burrough and John Helyar (1993) * Competitive Advantage by Michael Porter (1998) * The Tipping Point by Malcolm Galdwell (2000) * Crossing the Chasm by Geoffrey Moore (1999) * The House of Morgan by Ron Chernow (1990) * The Six Sigma Way by Peter Pande et al (2000) * Seven Habits of Highly Effective People by Stephen Covey(1990) * Liar's Poker by Michael Lewis (1989) * The Innovator's Dilemma by Clayton Christensen (1997) * Japan Inc. by Shotaro Ishinomori (1988) * Den of Thieves by James Stewart (1991) * The Essential Drucker by Peter Drucker (2001) * Competing for the Future by Gary Hamel and C.K. Prahalad (1994) * The Warren Buffet Way by Robert Hagestrom (1991) * Jack: Straight from the Gut by Jack Welch with John Bryne (2001) * Good to Great by Jim Collins (2001) * The New New Thing by Michael Lewis (2000) Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (attachments are removed in the digest mode. You get one or two digest mails per day containing all emails, minus pictures/attachments) No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rss feed: http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com/maillist.xml Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. To post mates/freinds wanted log on to http://pub35.bravenet.com/classified/show.php?usernum=2998156902 YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "gay_bombay" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
g_b oops
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g_b The Nigah Media Collective is back!
The Nigah Media Collective is back! Come join us FRIDAYS AT NIGAH on Friday, 10th March 2006 at 7.30 PM at 3/6, 2nd floor, Sarvapriya Vihar, New Delhi for a screening of TOUCH OF PINK Details and Synopsis at our flashy new website: www.nigahmedia.com Cheers! courtesy gb Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b Gays brokenhearted over 'Brokeback' loss
Gays brokenhearted over 'Brokeback' loss
S.F. crowd gets quiet, some cry as 'Crash' wins Oscar
Wyatt Buchanan, Chronicle Staff Writer
Monday, March 6, 2006
The single-word title of the film that won best picture at the
Academy Awards Sunday night, beating Brokeback Mountain, could
perhaps best describe the mood at the end of San Francisco's premier
Oscar night party.
Moments before, when Brokeback's Ang Lee won for best director, the
packed house at the Academy of Friends AIDS fundraising gala at the
Concourse Exhibition Center erupted in wild cheering.
But as Jack Nicholson announced the best picture award for Crash, a
film that received nowhere near the media attention of the cowboy
love story, the crowd went quiet. Some booed, and others cried. This
was supposed to have been the big gay year at the Oscars,
with Brokeback, Capote and Transamerica all vying for major
awards. Many saw Brokeback as a kind of great gay hope for best
picture.
I felt like 'Brokeback Mountain' was a film that brought Americans
together over issues of homophobia, said Grant Colfax, who hugged
and wept with his partner, Rod Rogers, as the final award of the
night went to a movie that instead explored issues of race. Although
Colfax said he liked Crash, he called it a safe choice.
Others were less diplomatic.
I think that's an absolute horror, said Brad Bruner, who is a
leader in the Golden State Gay Rodeo Association. It's an outright
sign of homophobia in our country. ('Crash') won no awards before
this. It makes me sick.
Overall, the films with gay themes and characters fared moderately.
No actors won Oscars for performances in Brokeback Mountain, and
Felicity Huffman did not win for her portrayal of a transgender
female in Transamerica, but Philip Seymour Hoffman did score with
his performance in Capote, a film based on the life of gay writer
Truman Capote.
That win meant Hoffman beat out Heath Ledger's character
in Brokeback Mountain, although many people at the event, which
raised $500,000 for HIV and AIDS community services, said Hoffman
deserved the honor.
Despite the lack of success for Brokeback Mountain, which won just
three of the eight awards for which it was nominated, cowboy hats and
western wear were high fashion at the party.
A movie poster signed by the actors and director sold for just over
$2,800 in a silent auction, though the listed value was priceless.
Gala attendees, who paid at least $200 a ticket, could get their
picture taken with Heath Ledger and Jake Gyllenhall look-alikes in
front of a mountain backdrop.
Caralee Schmitt, who attended the event with her husband, marveled at
the cowboy couture on display Sunday, which she had never seen
growing up in Bozeman, Mont.
My father was a cowboy, but not at all like these kind of cowboys,
said Schmitt, who lives in South San Francisco.
Although the crowd was disappointed, people were soon dancing to
Kelly Clarkson's Since U Been Gone, and spirits seemed to have
lifted. Some even gave credit to the best picture winner.
In all fairness, it's not as though the gay films lost arbitrarily,
said Mark Morris, who grew up in Idaho. The other movies
like 'Crash' -- my God, it was underrated, but my God, it was
brilliant.
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g_b Lesbian act? No way, say Indias leading ladies
Lesbian act? No way, say India's leading ladies http://dnaindia.com/report.asp?NewsID=1014526CatID=7 Shubha Shetty-Saha Thursday, February 23, 2006 20:50 IST After receiving awards and accolades for his gay film `Brokeback Mountain', Ang Lee is now making a film on lesbianism. Two of the hottest Hollywood stars, Kate Moss and Charlize Theron will be playing lovers in the film. After Hours was surprised to find that each of the female actors we spoke to had reservations to play a lesbian character. Do you think a lesbian film will work in India? Urmila Matondkar: I don't know. Maybe it will be accepted, maybe it won't. If it is done in a sensitive manner, it shouldn't be a problem. People are becoming more open to such issues. Shilpa Shetty: I don't think a film made on a lesbian couple would work in India. I mean, look at `Girlfriend'. Vidya Balan: People are becoming more and more open to good films. So if it is well made, why not? Would you take up such a role? Urmila: I don't think so simply because I would not be comfortable doing something like this. I have nothing against watching such a film, but personally I cannot identify with such a character. Shilpa: Even if a serious director made such a film in India, I don't think I would work in it. It's a concept that goes contrary to our culture. Actors are people that the masses look up to and I don't think I want to be portrayed as `someone like that'. Vidya: I'm at such a nascent stage in my career, that I haven't really thought about it. Telespeak... Aamna Shariff I have certain limitations and I am not comfortable doing such roles. Smriti Z Irani I am not at all experimental about such things. Nausheen Ali Sardar I am not comfortable touching a man or a woman at such close proximity. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b Online Resource Center
courtesy lgbt india === Dean and others, Here at SAATHII, we have created an Online Resource Center on HIV/AIDS in India. While it's still work in progress, we have a few hundred articles (or links thereof) in our Elibrary, with LGBT content wherever they pertain to HIV/AIDS and India. Please check out http://www.saathii.org/orc/elibrary and search with your favorite key words (hint - full words work better than abbreviations such as LGBT). You can also contribute links to the Elibrary, so if you find some glaring omissions please help us fill them. thanks, Ramki Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b Gay Movement In India--- The way forward
courtesy lgbt-india === From: ASHOK ROW KAVI [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat Feb 18, 2006 1:04 pm Dear Geeta,Tarun and Friends, Have just returned from attending the National AIDS Council convened by the Prime Minister in the annexe of the Lok Sabha on February 16th. Most Union ministers were in attendance. Shivraj Patil (Home minister) Lalu Prasad Yadav (Railway Minister) Maran (Post and Telegraph), Mani Shankar Aiyar (Youth,Sports and Panchayat) and most secretaries were present. All gave very useful answers to the contributions their ministries will make. Lalu was very good and said he was even thinking of how to give rail concessions to HIV+ persons. Had to tell him that getting concessions forms specially with HIV+ written on them would just further stigmiatise them and won't work. The Health Minister Ramadoss, in his opening remarked clearly said removing laws against MSM and sex workers were on the cards. Prime Minister was nodding in agreement. Shivraj Patil was stoic and non- commital. Jana of CARE and Sonagachi Project also repeated the cry against laws criminalising many populations. I was then asked to speak; specifically was given three minutes ( I took two) to stress that Section 377 was used to harass, black and extort money by police and goondas. I also said under this law even doctors and health care workers besides communty workers can be arrested for treating us homosexuals or even giving us condoms. Home Minister's secretary took notes. Afterwards at the reception (Prime Minister left for Parliament again), Shivraj Patil wanted to know how doctors would be in trouble. I said they became accessories and inciters to committing crime in Section 377.There were members of the Supreme Court and several lawyers (one specifically very senior gay lawyer was there of Supreme Court), they all said that the present petition was going in the right direction. Anand Grover was present and he looked at me. Both of us were trying to catch any nuances, if any, from the top echelons of this government. I asked the Home Minister what were the chances. He nodded indicating that the bench was slowly moving in the right direction. They all said that the community itself was behaving with dignity and decorum. They were impressed with simultaneous protests and the way it was being done with very wise moves in converting public opinion to your views.One senior fellow (I think he was from IB or police -- they always wear safari suits), asked snidely: Is there anybody coordinating all this? I said No, the community is responding in its own way through the networks and key persons who have their groups spreading out to get protests moving. I specifically said there is no national coordinating body. He was a bit suspicious and looked sceptical. The gay senior Supreme Court lawyer said that the judges and many members of the bar wanted to now take credit because the agitation against Section 377 was at a crucial phase -- everybody wanted to take credit for it! It seems the Bar Associations in Delhi were watching the case and many persons were coming up with suggestions. There was no time to ask what they were as Home minister started moving out of the room where refreshments were being served. Under these circumstances, I don't know why everybody has to crowd into judicial activism. Athar Quereshi suggested on this list that we start sensitisation of all gate-keepers in society. How about starting with the local IMA chapters in your cities? I'm sick and tired of doctors asking me for a cure for homosexuality. I remember addressing 1,600 members of the Western India chapter of the iMA where doctor after doctor stood up to state stupidly spreading homosexuality in worrying us. How about talking to PTA in your townsand cities? What about the local bar associations? I mean everytime going to PUCL and human rights organisations is like preaching to the converted, isn't it? It's the hostile lot who need to be turned around. As usual, for example, in Shillong, were are now thinking of sending fact finding mission. Has anybody thought of taking a quiet delegation to the State Home Minister and networking with the Sate SACS. In all health programs, if we don't sensitise these fellows, the axe first falls on visible marginalised groups like sex workers. For example, at the 16th meeting, Gujarat Health Minister Ashok Bhat was trying to be extra polite to Anand Grover who is fighting Gujarat on the riots front as also on the fact that they just threw out all the female sex workers of Surat. Grover just snubbed him saying he can't meet him because we can't even meet over a drink in your state (haha, sometimes Prohibition has its uses). So we know who are our friends and who are our enemies. Tarun, besides petitions there are lots of ways we can mobilise. For example, Elango of INP+ was there and everybody appreciated the way he spoke about the
g_b news on Shillong gay murder
courtesy lgbt-india - special meeting of Voices Against 377 was called today to discuss the murder in Shillong. Geoff Heaviside's email sent through Vikram and Pawan sounded extremely scary, and if this was a homophobic murder, then it is yet another one in the series of brutal and homophobic murders of queer people beginning with Pushkin and Vishal in Delhi, the Shangri La Hotel murder in Delhi, the possible murder of Babbak Jabbari in Bombay and the murder of a hijra in Calcutta, and the queer community needs to sit up and take cautious note of this disturbing and growing trend. Through our friends in the North East Network and their contacts in Shillong,it emerges that the man in question, 22-year old elambor Syngai, was indeed gay and was perceived to be openly 'different' by people around him, and his murder has come as quite a shock to everyone. However in the articles appearing in the local press, the Shillong Times (www.theshillongtimes.com) and reproduced below, the murder has been reported in the dry and mundane language of regular crime reports, and either the police in their interaction with the press have not publicised the fact that he was gay and his murder could be homophobic, or it is not being talked about openly by his friends or family, or the reporter has chosen to keep mum. For now, Voices was of the opinion that a fact-finding team be sent to Shillong, as it was done recently in the cases of Lucknow and Meerut, hopefully consisting of queer activists and human rights workers from the North East or Eastern India in general. It is important for a team to visit as Geoff mentioned that Melambor's (gay?) friends are frightened, and if he was in any way alluding to the fear of further brutal attacks like this one, then these people need to be reassured that they have support at least among human rights and women's groups in Shillong and in the North East. Also in situations such as this, where it is important to gain a queer point of view of the incident and not just the police version of the 'facts' and where the two have differed considerably in the past, it is important that a fact-finding team be sent right away. Also, if there is anyone on these lists from Shillong, and perhaps even friends of Melambor, please do write back to us with whatever information you might have. One thing that we certainly DO NOT know for sure is that this was a homophobic murder. Although we have confirmations that Melambor was gay, even these could be contested, as we do not know whether he took on that identity or was just perceived to be 'different'. Secondly, even beyond Melambor's behaviour and identity, we are not sure if he was murdered due to his actual or perceived 'difference', in which case his murder is not actually homophobic. Whatever the case, the ambiguity over so much to do with this case, apart from the fact that there are no established queer networks in the North East, demands that a fact-finding team be constituted and sent to Shillong right away. Much love, Mario from The Shillong Times, 12th February 2006 One murdered in city By Our Reporter SHILLONG: Some unidentified miscreants on Saturday murdered one Melambor Syngai (22) of Mawlai Kynton Massar at Mawlai Umjaiur point. The deceased, a peon at the Main Secretariat, was hit by a stone, police said adding that a stone lying near the blood-stained body. After post-mortem the body was handed over to his brother. from The Shillong Times, 14th February 2006 Mysterious murder: Meanwhile, mystery shrouds the murder of 22- year old Melambor Syngai of Mawlai Kynton Massar - a peon engaged in the Main Secretariat, whose body was recovered on Saturday.The residents of Kynton Massar were shocked over the incident as murder of this nature occurred in the locality after several years. Family members are also clueless and found no reason for the murder of Syngai. The deceased was missing from Thursday, they said.A close friend of the deceased said that on Thursday, Syngai had attended office, but did not turn up the next day. She said Syngai had visited her a day before the incident and was a bit depressed on the pretext of being away from home the previous night. The deceased had bought a gift for his nephew and had put it in her house, she said adding that Syngai had planned to take the gift after returning from his office on Friday.Police are investigating the case and expressed hoped that they could have a break through soon. Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:-
g_b 3 injured in clash over gay relationship in Rajkot, Gujarat
3 injured in clash over gay relationship [ Monday, February 13, 2006 11:01:32 pmTIMES NEWS NETWORK ] http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1413432.cms RAJKOT: A clash between two groups over the issue of a gay relationship, that resulted in knife injuries to three persons, created a sensation in the city on the eve of Valentine's Day. According to sources, the two men, Jitendra Rathod and Vikram Bhil, had entered into a contract on a Rs 50 stamp paper that they would continue their relationship even after getting married to their fiancees. Accordingly,Vikram got engaged to a girl from Palitana and Jitendra to a girl from Jamnagar. However, Vikram, fearing that he would be betrayed, disclosed their relationship to the prospective in-laws of Jitendra in Jamnagar. He also threatened that he would commit suicide if they did not break the engagement. Subsequently, Jitendra's engagement was broken. Jitendra's uncle Sunil Dhamelia, angry over the incident, subsequently went to Vikram's house with two of his friends to take back the contract paper on Sunday night. When they demanded the document from Vikram's father Kirit Chauhan, the angry father attacked them with a knife injuring all the three. Police complaints from both the sides were lodged with Pradyumna Nagar police station. Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b AB + blood needed in delhi. plz help or forward
forwarded meessage = I just received this message from Ganapathy Subramaniam Ganapathy Subramaniam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, there is a friend from the ET desk who met with an accident on Thursday. He needs blood AB+ group. Being treated now at Max Balaji Hospital, East Delhi. If anybody can help, you can contact me at 9810006341 or soma banerjee at 9810603611. tks. Please forward this to as many Delhites as possible. regards, Murli Menon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b Supreme justice
http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=87338 Supreme justice The apex court's order on Section 377, which punishes `unnatural sex', is a good step WENDELL RODRICKS Posted online: Monday, February 06, 2006 at 0109 hours IST The Supreme Court rejecting a high court order on same sex relationships? Get me outta here! Am I dreaming or wot? Says a lot for Chief Justice of India Y.K. Sabharwal, and Justices C.K. Thakker and R.V. Raveendran. They actually directed the Delhi High Court that the abnormality of same sex relations be examined and not dismissed by the high court in the manner it did last year. And I say, bravo! At long last, the unjust Section 377 of the Indian Penal Code may see a change. And for the better. Not just for the Naz Foundation, who set the ball rolling in the Delhi High Court, but more importantly for everyone that is labelled a criminal if they indulge in sexual acts against the law of nature. Which includes all sexualities. So far there has been no heterosexual reaction to Section 377. There should be, because the archaic law applies to every Indian indulging in sex frowned on by Victorian England. The British, by the way, amended the very same law they had once promulgated in India. In an evolutionary move, same sex partnerships got the nod from the Blair government. Wisdom seems to have finally spread to Indian shores as well. The sentiments of the Supreme Court point to a new, moderate and modern India. This humanitarian step by the Supreme Court is a welcome respite for persons who in the past have been harassed, persecuted, beaten and blackmailed by vicious persons who give all policemen and innocent government persons a bad name.The recent incidents in Lucknow, the horrific treatment of gays in the Capital and the general witch-hunt of a hypocritical nature are mercifully in the minority. There is a large section of gays who are open to their families and friends, and who live a free life in India. Contrary to public opinion, Indian gays are accepted by the new India. Students at schools and colleges are unbiased and nonchalant about gays and public homosexuals. It is possible to live with dignity in India despite being gay. For the gays who serve the country, in the armed forces, hospitals, social service, government offices and humanitarian agencies, it is necessary to amend Section 377. The amendment will not only grant these people dignity but also display a progressive India.Indian media persons have often argued that same sex relationships should be legalised. But that is an issue best addressed after Section 377 is amended. The reason this question pops up is because the world is evolving as a tolerant society. The interests of some persons not to change Section 377 keeps the country many paces behind world opinion. The present think-tank at the Supreme Court may just deliver us from an unjust law and steer India gracefully into a period of wise conduct that we can all, as Indians, be proud of. The writer is a well-known fashion designer Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b The Glass is Half-Full
The Glass is Half-Full Feature written by Vimal Joshi, Mumbai I was lucky to have some free time last weekend when my son came up and asked to watch the movie `Life is Beautiful'. Little did I know it was going to be one of the best movies I'd ever seen. I know most of you are thinking `Hello??? I thought this site was about Vedanta, not movies!'. But to me, Vedanta isn't only what is in the scriptures. It is the message of Truth. In Swami Rama Tirtha's words, Vedanta brings you a religion which is found in the streets, which is written upon the leaves, which is murmured in the brooks, which is whispered in the winds, which is throbbing in your veins and arteries, a religion which concerns your business and bosom, a religion which you have not to practise by going to a particular church, mosque or temple only, a religion which you have to practise and live in your everyday life about your hearth, in your dining room So the movie is really a lesson in Vedanta. It teaches us about the power of looking at the bright side and seeing the same situation from a fresh perspective. A lesson that is important in the Vedantic context. The story revolves around a father and son who have been taken as prisoners to a concentration camp during World War II. The father had promised the little boy a battle tank as a gift for his fourth birthday. However, they were arrested and taken to a concentration camp as they were preparing for the birthday party. In order to protect his son from the hardships of the concentration camp, the father tells him that the entire experience is a game and that he will accumulate points by following the rules of the game, the rules at the concentration camp. He tells his son that if he is able to collect 1000 points he will get the tank! Every time the child complains of bad food or some inconvenience the father reminds him of the `game'. This enables the child to take the situation in his stride. Finally, when the Allied Forces liberate them, the little boy comes out of hiding. He sees a massive battle tank and thinks he has got the reward for earning 1000 points! In the end it is his father's positive outlook that helps him emerge from the experience unscathed. The same is true with our lives. We all have our moments of hardship. Moments when we feel like there is no hope, when there seems no sense in going on. A difficult relationship, an uninspiring job or just plain bad luck. Yet there is something in us that has the ability to see the good in everything. The capacity to turn the situation on its head, and see the same challenge in a new light. Because the human spirit is indomitable. We will get knocked down many times over in life, but the best amongst us are those who will get back up and continue on the path they have chosen to tread. Although the story is simple, there is a lesson in it for all of us. There is a silver lining to every cloud. Thinking negatively about our circumstances only takes the wind out of our sails. It hurts us the most. Not the people or the obstacles we perceive to be the source of our problems. The key is to re-assess the situation, try and see the good that can come out of it and above all, have faith that we can make everything happen for the best. Remember, the glass is always half-full. Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b looking for html programmer to help redesign www.gaybombay.info
hi guys am looking for a html programmer to redesign www.gaybombay.info site your help will go a long way in making the task of building a good informative site for the lgbt community. write to me if you are willing to help at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards Ketan Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b small but a very substantial victory for the queer community in India
courtesy gb = From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri Feb 3, 2006 3:37 pm Subject: Supreme Court of India sends the 377 petition back to the Delhi HighCourt HI All, Today has been a day of a small but a very substantial victory for the queer community in India. As we all know the peition seeking an amednemnt of S. 377 of the Indian Penal Code [to decriminalise consensual homosexual sex in private] by Naz Foundation India was dismissed by the Delhi HIgh Court in 2004, without even examining the issue. Thereafter an appeal in the form of a Special Leave Petition (SLP) was filed in Supreme Court against the Delhi HIgh Court decision. The Appeal has been going on for over a year now, and even recieved an extremely homophobic response from the Government last year, when in their reply the Government defended S. 377, and said that it was important to protect public morality. The case came up for hearing today. I was present in the Court with a few other activists and members of Naz India. Ms. Indira Jaisingh and Mr. Anand Grover (from the Lawyers Collective) appeared for Naz. Just as the case was announced, the Additional Solicitor General (ASG) (the flamboyant) Mr. Gopal Subramaniam (appearing for the Government/Union of India), told the Court, that this petition merits admission - which in legalese means that the Court should grant the interim reliefs prayed for in the petiiton (and here what we really wanted was to ask the Courts to send the case back to Delhi High Court, for a proper examination). So basically he was, surprise, surprise supporting us. Ms. Jaisingh appealed to the Judges (who included the Chief Justice of India - Justice Y K Sabrawal, Justice C. Thakker, and two other judges) that the issue in the Delhi High Court order, while dismissing the petition, was only of 'maintainability'. The Delhi High Court did not defend 377, but it said that Naz could not file this petition, as Naz cannot show how this section actually affects them, and held that Naz 'had no cause of action'. Ms. Jaisingh persuaded the Courts by asking whether this matter should be sent back to the Delhi High Court for reconsideration? Mr. Subramanium, supported us by asking the Courts to either here the issue before them in the Supreme Court or send it back to the Delhi High Court. He also categorically stated that I dont think the reasoing [of the Delhi High Court decision in dismissing the petition in the first place] is sustainable. This is a huge turnaround from the Government, considering that in their affidavit filed last year they opposed this Appeal. But clearly Mr. Subramanium (who I think was not ASG at that time) must have taken a stand to not oppose this, and somehow convinced the law ministry. BUT LETS NOT READ TOO MUCH INTO THIS. The government is just saying that 377 is a case that needs to be heard in full detail, and it is not saying that 377 needs to go, or that homosexuality needs to be decriminalised. This is an extremely important distinction that needs to be made. Then the Lawyer appearing for JACK [this NGO that believes that AIDS is a myth, and has been opposing our efforts to amend 377 right from the Delhi High Court] got up and started opposing our petition. Justice Sabrawal told him that they were not going into the merits of the case and that they will get a change to present their argument when the matter is finally heard in the Delhi High Court. I am reproducing some parts of the order that was dictated, mind you all, I was in the end of a large court room, Justice Sabrawal is not particularly loud, and I was also very very excited...so what ever I can understand from my own notes is reproduced below, some things are not word-to-word, but communicate the jest of what was said. We will see the actual order soon. Justice Sabrawal: The challenge in the Writ Petition No. ___ in the [Delhi] High Court was to the constitutional validity of S. 377 of the Indian Penal Code. The High Court without examining the [issue], dismissed the Writ Petition by the impugned order observing that there is no cause of action in favour of the Petition and the Petition cannot be filed [...for entertaing the challenge to the Constitutional validity of S. 377]. Additional S.G. contends that the matter needs examnination and is not of the nature that needs dismissal on the the grounds so stated [by the Delhi High Court]. We may note that the Petition is opposed by Respondent No. 6 [JACK]. We are however not examining the same on merit. But the matter does require consideration and is not such that can be dismissed on the grounds so stated [by the Delhi High Court]. In this view, we admit the SLP for [fresh decision by the High Court]. The Petitioners may make a prayer to the High Court for expeditious hearing. .. Essentially the matter has been sent back to the Delhi High Court with a big slap on their face. They will have to re-look at the issue, a fresh session of hearings will take
g_b what happened at the velcocity gb party yesterday night (2nd feb night)
courtesy gb = From: Dibeyendu Ganguli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri Feb 3, 2006 2:54 pm Subject: Velocity party shut down Dear All, On Thursday, the Mumbai police clamped down on several pubs and nighclubs in the city which they said had not renewed their police license. As luck would have it, one of these was Velocity, which happened to be the venue for a GB party that night (the others we know of are Zenzi and Toto's, two very popular places in Bandra). The police vans were parked outside Velocity right from 9 am, but most of us didn't pay them much heed. The Velocity management thought they might be there to check whether everyone had a liquor license, so to be on the safe side, everyone going in was given a free temporary license, valid for a day (it costs Rs 5). By 10:30, there were around 50 people in the venue and the party was showing signs of rocking. That's when the police, headed by a female officer, came up and informed the management that they were shutting the party down because the establishment hadn't renewed its license. It was a big disappointment but our crowd took it in its stride. We did hang around for a while hoping for a miracle that might save the party, but when it became obvious that that wasn't going to happen, people began queuing up to get their money back. Some of us hung around for another half an hour and finished our drinks. By 11:30, everyone had cleared out. Many of us headed for other venues to continue partying in small groups, though it really wasn't the same as partying with GB at Velocity. With Velocity and Karma temporarily unavailable, GB is now looking for al-ternative party venues. Those of you who know of places that might be suit-able could help. Write in and let us know the name and location of the place you have in mind and possibly the name and number of the manager there. Love, Dibs Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b Cops play party poopers in Mumbai
Cops play party poopers in Mumbai Prachi Jatania CNN-IBN Updated 1752 hrs IST (+GMT 5:30), 03.02.06 Email Print Mumbai: The city's party hoppers had an early night on Thursday as the Mumbai Police conducted surprise visits across discos and nightclubs in the upmarket western suburbs. They came, they saw and ensured that the music stopped hours before midnight. The police also ordered several prominent nightclubs and lounge bars to shut down earlier than the permitted deadline. The police came in at 2230 hours IST and closed down this place. There was no complaint, a security guard Vinod Mishra said. The local police downplayed these night-rounds as part of the routine but sources said that it was an exercise to check licenses. However, no arrests were made even as teams of policemen in plainclothes forcibly entered lounge bars in upmarket Bandra and Khar. The nightclubs had to close down three hours before midnight and questions are being raised if this was an attempt to clamp down on the city's active nightlife. So this weekend, perhaps it is a better idea for Mumbaikars to stay at home than chance an encounter with the keepers of the law. Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b Researchers Warn of File-Destroying Worm
Researchers Warn of File-Destroying Worm By ANICK JESDANUN AP Internet Writer If you have computer files you'd rather not lose, now is a good time to make sure your anti-virus software is up to date. A worm set to activate Friday will corrupt documents using the most common file types, including .doc, .pdf, and .zip. Hundreds of thousands of machines are believed to be infected, mostly in India, Peru, Turkey and Italy, said Mikko Hypponen, chief research officer for Finnish security company F-Secure Corp. The worm, known as CME-24, BlackWorm, Mywife.E or a number of other monikers, even tries to disable anti-virus software that is out of date, he said. Thus, users should make sure their software is turned on and has the latest definitions, generally available for free from the software vendor's Web site. F-Secure also has created a free removal tool. (http://www.f-secure.com/) If you are infected, and you find out about it today, you still have time to get rid of the virus, Hypponen said. As worms go, the spread of BlackWorm is relatively low. But worms these days are generally designed to help spammers and hackers carry out attacks, not to destroy files as this one does. So the impact this time may be more severe. Microsoft Corp. issued an advisory Tuesday warning customers about the worm, which affects most versions of its Windows operating system. Users should be safe if they have the latest anti-virus software or if their computers are set with limited privileges, a common setting in larger organizations. They are vulnerable if they, like many small business and home users, leave their computers set with full administrative rights. And users should check the date on the computer. The worm hits the third of every month, so if the computer's local calendar settings are off, Hypponen said, files may be destroyed sooner or later, even if the computer is never turned on Friday. --- Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b Tips to become RICH
Tips to become RICH January 30, 2006 No matter which life stage you are in, you have a future ahead of you and you should not leave it to chance- you must plan for it. So what are your financial goals? Here's a tip: making a lot of money fast is not necessarily a reasonable goal. Look ahead and think of when would you incur major expenditures. When you think of your goals, you should think about your hopes and dreams, for yourself and your family. What do you hope to achieve in life? Possibly buy a home and send your children to college? Or maybe you'd like to retire early and travel the world? And now compare the future dream with the current reality. Here are a few tips for planning for a secure future: 1. What you earn, what you spend The first part of allocating your investments is to figure out what's there to allocate. You need to estimate both your net worth and your net income/expenses. Your net worth, what accountants call a balance sheet, compares your assets (what you own) with your liabilities (what you owe). This will help you see your monthly disposable income -- the income you have left over after paying all necessary expenses. And that tells you how much you can afford to contribute to your financial goals each month. 2. Set your goals Financial professionals often counsel investors to write down their goals. Their intention is not to make you ponder the meaning of life, but to help you create the best plan to reach those goals along the way. There's another benefit that comes from identifying your goals. Saving and investing just for the sake of getting rich might work for some people. But for most others, though, giving up Rs.5000 every month can put a strain on their wallets - until they look at a photo of their children and remember that the Rs.5000 they're investing now will go toward helping pay their kids' higher education fees later. 3. Budget for it After you identify your goals and how much you need to reach them, you should begin setting aside money on a regular basis to invest in your plan. Saving on a regular basis is the key to reaching your goals; no matter how little the amount you start out investing. Don't be discouraged if your goal seems large and unreachable - remember that even a leaky faucet can fill your sink with water, drop by drop. Making investments on a regular basis, even if you can only set aside a small amount each month, can eventually build a sizable portfolio. Many people think that they can't spare any cash to start an investing plan. These people probably have not learned the importance of paying yourself first. Setting aside a small amount for your long-term investing plan each week or each month before you pay any other bills or expenses is all you have to do. 4. Spread your money It's rarely a good idea to have all your eggs in one basket. Depending on your goals and attitude to risk, you should invest your money over different investment options such as Stocks, Mutual Funds and Bonds. You may also want to diversify within each of these categories. With stocks, for example, a mutual fund will invest your money in a variety of companies but you may want to ensure you have a range of industry sectors too. 5. Make sure your money grows Should you leave it in the savings bank account and earn a meager rate of return? Or should you invest it in the PPF? The fact is that investing your money in the so-called safe fixed income instruments like Fixed Deposits, PPF, NSC, etc. is simply not enough. This is due to the low rate of return on such instruments and high inflation rate in the economy. It is your hard earned money and you should invest it in instruments, which will make it grow over time and thereby build capital for your future. Stocks is known world over for its potential to increase in value over time and provide your portfolio with the growth required to help you meet your long-term goals. Mutual Funds have given investors a whole new avenue for investment as per your risk appetite and expected returns. 6. Keep track of your track record After you invest, you'll want to keep track of how your investments do. This doesn't mean you need to watch your returns on a daily basis (doing that can be like weighing yourself every day when you're trying to lose weight -- it won't help you judge long-term results, and you can drive yourself crazy doing it). Instead, establish a regular timeframe for checking your investments to see if they are matching or beating your goals. For example, you may decide to review your returns investments once every three months, or twice a year. While benchmarks aren't the only way to judge the strength of your investments, these tools can help you gauge how your investments are doing compared to similar investments. You may use the following benchmarks: Market indices -- such as Sensex, Nifty. This will help you compare
g_b Profound apologies
hi all this group gets tons of adult mails and spams. usually, i delet them enmass by opting for delete button. today , by mistake i hit the approve button and as a result some trash mails got approved. i have deleted them from the group and for those who received them, i sincerely regret it. i really do. need to be more careful apologies moderator Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b please note
hi guys please download the virus removal tool from http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/pf/w32.blackmal [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Discovered on: January 17, 2006 Last Updated on: January 25, 2006 10:01:28 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a mass-mailing worm that attempts to spread through network shares and lower security settings. Removal tool link: http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/[EMAIL PROTECTED] .removal.tool.html Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b HIV-hit to run Pune pharmacy
HIV-hit to run city pharmacy [ Tuesday, January 24, 2006 01:58:42 pmTIMES NEWS NETWORK ] PUNE: In a rare initiative in the country, a pharmacy for the HIV- positive in the city, to be run by the people who are HIV-positive, was launched here on Monday by a pharmaceutical company. Called Taal, the pharmacy, located on Laxmi road in the Nana Peth area, will initially provide anti-retroviral (ARV) drugs for adults as well as the infected paediatric population registered with the Network of Maharashtra by People Living with HIV/AIDS (NMP+). It was inaugurated by Bollywood actor Nana Patekar. Established by Emcure Pharmaceuticals as part of its corporate social responsibility, its director (operations), A.K. Khanna, said Taal has been established in co-ordination with NMP+, Network of Positive People living with HIV/AIDS (INP+) and technical support from the Human Development Resource Network (a non-profit making organisation supported by the UNDP regional HIV and development programme. Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b friends.....
Around the corner I have a friend, In this great city that has no end, Yet the days go by and weeks rush on, And before I know it, a year is gone. And I never see my old friend's face, For life is a swift and terrible race, He knows I like him just as well, As in the days when I rang his bell. And he rang mine but we were younger then, And now we are busy, tired men. Tired of playing a foolish game, Tired of trying to make a name. Tomorrow I say! I will call on Jim Just to show that I'm thinking of him. But tomorrow comes and tomorrow goes, And distance between us grows and grows. Around the corner, yet miles away, Here's a telegram sir, Jim died today. And that's what we get and deserve in the end. Around the corner, a vanished friend. author unknown Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b Very URGENT
Hi It seems that there is a virus problem among all Yahoo groups. A virus reads your sent mails and other mails and then replicates the mail, picks up the yahoo group address and sends mail automatically. I have been getting on an average 20 mails from many many subsribers, which basically say forward-- and then picks up one of the subject that has been sent either by you or by another subscriber. The email contaings some grabled junk and I am having a hard time, deleting each of this junk mail. Please Please read what has been written below. Here is one way of cleaning up your mail system. Regards Moderator =Take note of this Presently people are having a big problem with a really intelligent worm virus in Yahoo groups. This virus usually reaches a mail box some way and then tracks the ids with the word group and send mails with subject lines usually of a forward which is already present in you mail box. This virus is intelligent is because of two reasons - It sends mails with virus to groups by searching for the word group in its address book or inbox id's - It takes the subject line of any mail with FW: in it and sends it across to the groups and the sent mail is not even seen in the sent items box. Suggestions [generic for any virus infected mail box] 1) Create 2 mail ids in address book one with name: ! ( so that it will be the 1st contact, and should not enter any email address for that) and another with ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] this creates confusion to any normal virus in the first try of its sending the mail itself! 2) Create another id in address book with id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] this will prevent the new virus from spreading to other groups coz when it tries this id it restarts trying and will end up in retrying for this id countless number of times thus preventing from spreading to some other mail box or groups. This is a simple way of preventing viruses from spreading to other mail boxes Thanks a Lot for taking time to read this mail. Forward it to all your friends, to avoid spreading of Virus and Worms!! Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b 'Ek Din
'Ek Din' this weekend saturday - 9.30pm ndtv 24X7 (English) and again at 6.30pm on sunday Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b What would you do? You make the choice! Don't look for a punch line;
What would you do? You make the choice! Don't look for a punch line; There isn't one! Read it anyway. My question to all of you is: Would you have made the same choice? At a fundraising dinner for a school that serves learning disabled children, the father of one of the students delivered a speech that would never be forgotten by all who attended. After extolling the school and its dedicated staff, he offered a question: When not interfered with by outside influences, everything nature does is done with perfection. Yet my son, Shay, cannot learn things as other children do. He cannot understand things as other children do. Where is the natural order of things in my son? The audience was stilled by the query. The father continued. I believe,that when a child like Shay, physically and mentally handicapped comes into the world, an opportunity to realize true human nature presents itself, and it comes, in the way other people treat that child.Then he told the following story: Shay and his father had walked past a park where some boys Shay knew were playing baseball. Shay asked,Do you think they'll let me play? Shay's father knew that most of the boys would not want someone like Shay on their team, but the father also understood that if his son were allowed to play, it would give him a much-needed sense of belonging and some confidence to be acc epted by others in spite of his handicaps. Shay's father approached one of the boys on the field and asked if Shay could play, not expecting much. The boy looked around for guidance and said, We're losing by six runs and the game is in the eighth inning. I guess he can be on our team and we'll try to put him in to bat in the ninth inning. Shay struggled over to the team's bench put on a team shirt with a broad smile and his Father had a small tear in his eye and warmth in his heart. The boys saw the father's joy at his son being accepted. In the bottom of the eighth inning, Shay's team scored a few runs but was still behind by three. In the top of the ninth inning, Shay put on a glove and played in the right field. Even though no hits came his way, he was obviously ecstatic just to be in the game and on the field, grinning from ear to ear as his father waved to him from the stands. In the bottom of the ninth inning, Shay's team scored again. Now, with two outs and the bases loaded, the potential winning run was on base and Shay was scheduled to be next at bat. At this juncture, do they let Shay bat and give away their chance to win the game? Surprisingly, Shay was gi ven the bat. Everyone knew that a hit was all but impossible 'cause Shay didn't even know how to hold the bat properly, much less connect with the ball. However, as Shay stepped up to the plate, the pitcher, recognizing the other team putting winning aside for this moment in Shay's life, moved in a few steps to lob the ball in softly so Shay could at least be able to make contact. The first pitch came and Shay swung clumsily and missed. The pitcher again took a few steps forward to toss the ball softly towards Shay. As the pitch came in, Shay swung at the ball and hit a s low ground ball right back to the pitcher. The game would now be over, but the pitcher picked up the soft grounder and could have easily thrown the ball to the first baseman. Shay would have been out and that would have been the end of the game. Instead, the pitcher threw the ball right over the head of the first baseman, out of reach of all team mates. Everyone from the stands and both teams started yelling, Shay, run to first! Run to first! Never in his life had Shay ever ran that far but made it to first base. He scampered down the baseline, wide-eyed and star tled. Everyone yelled, Run to second, run to second! Catching his breath, Shay awkwardly ran towards second, gleaming and struggling to make it to second base. By the time Shay rounded towards second base, the right fielder had the ball, the smallest guy on their team, who had a chance to be the hero for his team for the first time. He could have thrown the ball to the secon d-baseman for the tag, but he understood the pitcher's intentions and he too intentionally threw the ball high and far over the third-baseman's head. Shay ran toward third base deliriously as the runners ahead of him circled the bases toward home. All were screaming, Shay, Shay, Shay, all the way Shay Shay reached third base, the opposing shortstop ran to help him and turned him in the direction of third base, and shouted, Run to third! Shay, run to third As Shay rounded third, the boys from both teams and those watching were on their feet were screaming, Shay, run home! Shay ran to home, stepped on the plate, and was cheered as the hero who hit the grand slam and won the game for his team. That day, said the father softly with tears now rolling down his face, the boys from both teams helped bring a piece of
g_b All four Lucknow guys out on bail
courtesy gb == From: Vikram [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:48 pm Subject: All four Lucknow guys out on bail Good news from Lucknow. All the four guys arrested have been released on bail. Activists were confident that this would happen, once rhe mandatory 14 days police custody was over and they were produced at the sessions court. The grounds for arrest were so dubious and the lack of proof - s.377 does lay down a strict norm of proof in the form of a medical examination which finds evidence of semen in the anus. The fact finding team to Lucknow established that no such medical examination took place. None the less, the disgusting statements given out by Mr.Pandey, the police superintendent, about getting rid of homosexuality, made one fear that the court would be pressurised, or perhaps evidence manufactured, to dent bail. That its not happened is good news, but now we must move on to the larger case of why it happened at all. Vikram Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b ripping off at GB parties?
courtesy gb === From: Jayesh D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun Jan 15, 2006 3:59 pm Subject: The Rip-off Debate de_joy i, The `Rip-off for Teetotallers' debate that I had initiated is long dead and gone. However I wish put on record my personal response to the various points of view made by my fellow Group members. My professional occupation hardly renders me anytime to respond individually to every mail the discussion thread. This is the earliest I could get down to putting in a mail. With all I humility I would like concede that being a member of the Organising Group, I blindly approved the deal that GB had made with the host establishment Karma. Being not aware of what the deal was apart from the Rs. 1500/- cover charge. I landed at the venue trusting that my cribbing for the whole of last year for a fair deal for teetotallers would have made my fellow organisers make sure that they don't give me a reason to crib again. Without taking any responsibility for my actions I threw my fury at all of you, a sorry thing to happen at the end of a fabulous party, another GB success story. Yes, its all my fault and I apologise for that. However does a majority decision that is unfair for minority make a majority decision fair? Teetotaller gaymen who are a minority within a larger minority of gays, seem to be at the receiving end of the same attitude as that of the straights towards the gays. The decision was discussed everyone over the mailing list. How representative is the mailing list of the true GB Party Patronage? GB's focus as I understand was to create a space a safe space for all sections of the gay community. However the party tariff created a situation, though unintentional, divided the community on grounds of not affordability but unreasonable disparity in value for money. The teetotallers have to shell out more for the same space. The 2005 New Year Eve Party had an attendance 550 and another 50-60 who were denied entry due to lack of space at the venue. Humsafar Drop-in Centre too had its own party at Madh Island, which had a 300 odd attendance. If this year there was no option available, what does an attendance of less that 450 speak for itself? Where did the GB Party patronage go? Haven't we lost them to something like an unfair tariff? A successful party certainly in terms of operations but is it terms of patronage . I guess my fellow organisers got carried away in getting an unlimited booze deal. But I am told that most people who consume alcoholic beverages are moderate drinkers. Than what's the need of ordering a tap flowing with booze? The only demand I would have for future parties is to have juices available against one coupon((valued at Rs. 50/-) and not two. Anyway, this is an debate that can go back and forth. Lets agree to disagree and close the debate here. Jayesh Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b I am homosexual, not gay-Vikram Kiron Sardesai
http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/jan132006/living161456200611 2.asp Look now we're changing For long bogged down by societal norms, people with alternate sexuality are no longer trying to hide their way of life, finds Bala Chauhan. I am homosexual, not gay. I like men but I don't conform to a lifestyle, which has become the gay culture, he says, lighting a Marlboro. Vikram Kiron Sardesai has just finished his lunch and has some time to chat before getting into the afternoon meeting. One of India's leading designers, Vikram is a busy man who believes that you only live once, so live it well. A product of the National Institute of Design, Ahmedabad, Vikram is at ease with his sexuality. I always knew I was different and I don't want to be straight. If that's what you want to know from me, his smile from behind the cigarette smoke is honest and in the face. To me religion and sexuality are two very private things. It is nobody's business to know what I do in my bedroom. To me being a homosexual is a way of life. I work the way I want to and that has nothing to do with my being homosexual, he makes his point. Vikram `came out' when he was 20 years old, in Delhi. His being a homosexual wasn't an issue with his family and friends. In due course of time, he found a partner, who was in the same field as him. The two lived together in Mumbai for nine years. And when they outgrew each other, they parted as friends. With time and his own growing up, he realised that he was not cut out for one-to-one relationships. It's too much to expect of one individual because no one is perfect. It's much easier with multiple partners. There's a lot of affection. I derive my intellectual and creative stimulation from different people I know and care for. I am not possessive about any of them. I don't believe in long-term relationships. It doesn't work out. It's important for people to give each other time and space. Even if I had a permanent lover we would have lived in separate spaces, he says. Unlike Vikram, there are people with alternate sexuality who believe in long-term partnership and life long commitment. Anna and Leena (names changed) are a lesbian couple who live together in a rented apartment in Bangalore. They met four years ago, in Delhi, fell in love with each other and decided to stay together. I found Anna very attractive. I proposed to her and she accepted me, says Leena, who is a transgender. I was born a girl but felt, behaved and dressed like a man. It took my parents some time to understand that I was a lesbian. It was more difficult for Leena as her parents filed a police complaint against us and for some time we faced hell from them, says Anna. As a couple they share their responsibilities equally though Anna has taken on a man's role (in gay parlance, she's the butch) and Leena is fem (short of feminine). For them getting married is important though they are aware that same sex marriages don't have the sanction of the church. Rukmini and Seema (names changed) are also a lesbian couple living together for the last five years. They met each other while in college and after a year-long courtship, got `married' in a temple. For us marriage was necessary to cement the bond. It does not bother us if it is illegal in the Indian society. We are looking forward to adopting a child but before that, we need to stabilise ourselves economically, says Seema. Relationships and expectations between same sex people are as different and diverse as those between heterosexuals. They wake up and brush their teeth the same way as anybody else does. Why is the society so interested in the lives of people with alternate sexuality? The problem is not what they are doing in their bedroom. The question is why is the world or the law inside their bedroom? Questions Vinay Chandran, executive director, Swabhava Trust a Bangalore-based voluntary organisation working for the rights of LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender) people and those afflicted with HIV/AIDS. Vinay holds socialisation responsible for stereotyping gender and relationships. The optics of a gay relationship is always viewed from a heterosexual viewpoint. Regarding marriage there are divided views in the community. Many feel that there is no need to replicate the institution of marriage in which women have borne the brunt of violence for ages. But there are others, who feel that marriage is a must, he adds. Why do gay people have to mimic heterosexuals? Asks Vikram. A growing number of people, gay included, are beginning to question societal pressures on people to be in single partner relationships, says noted theatre personality Mahesh Dattani. The question is one of rights of people, who are not straight. Section 377 of the Indian Penal Code criminalises sodomy. Whether they wish to conform or not to `straight' norms, should be left to them. At best.
g_b Protests over arrests of Indian gays get louder
Protests over arrests of Indian gays get louder New Delhi: The arrest of four gays in Uttar Pradesh is beginning to snowball into a major controversy, with rights activists from India and abroad calling for their release and renewing the demand for repeal of a law that makes homosexuality an offence. Activists from India as well as Nepal have squarely condemned the arrests of the four homosexuals picked up from a park in Uttar Pradesh capital Lucknow Jan 4 on charges of running a gay racket on the Internet. The US-based Human Rights Watch (HRW) too has expressed concern about the persecution of the community in India. But police and administration officials in Lucknow have flatly refused to release the men, citing provisions of section 377 of the Indian Penal Code (IPC) that prohibits homosexuality. Gay rights activists are furious. How can police arrest people sitting in a park? Police behaviour in Lucknow was really shameful and barbaric, Tripti Tandon, an activist working with NGO Lawyers Collective, told IANS here. The government of India must review section 377 and come up with a fresh law that honours the will of its citizens. Akshay, another activist, said in a civilised society willing partners should not be punished at all. It's their life and they have every right to live the way the wish. The archaic law needs to be reviewed as soon as possible. On Thursday, gay activists held a demonstration in the national capital demanding the release of the four men. Protests have come in from neighbouring Nepal as well. Led by Blue Diamond Society (BDS), Nepal's only gay rights defending organisation, activists and members of the homosexual community staged a protest before the Indian embassy in Kathmandu. We call on the Indian government to release the men immediately and ensure that charges against them are dropped, said Sunil Pant, founder of BDS. The protest coincides with New York-based HRW sending two separate letters to the governments of Nepal and India, protesting persecution of the community in the two neighbouring countries. India's colonial-era sodomy law continues to threaten human rights and encourage the spread of HIV, New York-based HRW said in its letter to Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh. A fact-finding team, constituted by the National Campaign for Sexuality Rights (NCSR) to determine what really happened and demand remedial action, Thursday met Uttar Pradesh Principal Home Secretary Alok Sinha in Lucknow. The present arrests clearly show the lack of understanding on part of the Uttar Pradesh state bureaucracy of the ground realities in relation to sexual choices and orientation, as well as its ignorance about national movements, Jasodhara Dasgupta of Sahayog said. This moralistic state has to realise that there is an all India movement to repeal Section 377, which is an unacceptable intrusion into the intimate lives of individuals; the movement is based on the constitutional premise of the right to equality, dignity, liberty and expression and the country is beginning to understand that the state has no role in intervening in the lives of consenting adults, Dasgupta told IANS. The government, however, is adamant in its stance. Said Sinha: We are bound by the law of the land and the action taken by police was well within the parameters of that law. Added Lucknow senior superintendent of police Ashutosh Pandey: What these activists need to understand is that the law does not permit homosexuality even between willing partners. Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b Nepal gays fight for Indian peers
Nepal gays fight for Indian peers [ Friday, January 13, 2006 03:35:45 pmIANS ] KATHMANDU: Nepal's homosexual community and gay rights activists on Friday joined international protests against the arrest of four Indians on the charge of running a gay racket on the Internet. Led by Blue Diamond Society (BDS), Nepal's only gay rights defending organisation, activists and members of the homosexual community staged a protest before the Indian embassy, demanding the immediate release of four men arrested in Lucknow. The protesters handed over a letter to the office of Indian Ambassador Shiv Shankar Mukherjee and were asked to come for a dialogue Monday after the embassy had apprised itself of the developments in Lucknow. The Kathmandu protest coincides with international rights watchdog Human Rights Watch (HRW) sending two separate letters to the governments of Nepal and India, protesting persecution of the community in the two neighbouring countries. India's colonial-era sodomy law continues to threaten human rights and encourage the spread of HIV, New York-based HRW said in its letter to Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh. The protests have been triggered by Lucknow Police arresting four Indian men Jan 4 on charges of operating a gay racket on the Internet, and having unnatural sex. Police say the men, arrested from a picnic in a public place, belong to an international gay club centred around the Internet website guys4men.com, where gay men can place personals and engage in Internet chat. HRW says, according to reports it received, undercover police, posing as gay on the website, entrapped one man, then forced him to call others and arrange a meeting where they were arrested. Sunil Pant, founder of BDS, said the Nepal protests have begun now as the four men were charged under a law in the Indian Penal Code that can punish the offender with life imprisonment. We call on the Indian government to release the men immediately and ensure that charges against them are dropped, Pant said. We need regional/international action to defeat homophobia as this kind of violence and exclusion is largely prevalent in Asia. The solidarity by Nepal's gay community comes at a time when it is facing a spate of harassments from police in capital Kathmandu, with gays being arbitrarily arrested, beaten up and molested in police stations. Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b Lucknow Incident 2
ucknow Incident 2 12th January 2006 On 3rd January, four men were arrested in Lucknow for being a part of what the Lucknow police called a gay racket and were charged under Section 377 of the Indian Penal Code. Police claimed that there were substantial numbers of men in the city who were a part of this gay racket and that further, as the SSP stated at a press meeting, there were HIV/AIDS organisations who were supporting such a racket and he would deal with these organisations as he knows what they do. In Lucknow, there are only two such organisations. Bharosa is a local community-based Organisation providing direct HIV/AIDS prevention, care and support services for kothi-identified males and their partners, as well as other `MSM', while Naz Foundation International (NFI), is an international HIV/AIDS technical support agency supporting `MSM' HIV/AIDS interventions in several countries, including India. Headquartered in London, UK, its Regional Liaison Office is based in Lucknow also. Bharosa Human Rights Cell (developed with NFI technical support) in coordination with NFI Regional Office and local NGOs have found out the following through a preliminary investigation: 1. Lucknow police was informed about the website www.guys4men com through their own sources. 2. A profile of N.N. From Lucknow was on the website. 3. The police arrested this person from his residence on the night of 3rd January 2006. 4. The police checked the mobile records of NN. 5. The police picked three names from the mobile records based on the fact that regular calls were made to and from these numbers. 6. The police forced NN to make calls on 4th January 2006 to these individuals and call them to Mahanagar Classic Restaurant individually 7. The police with NN were waiting for these people at the restaurant for these people and arrested AK, PG and PW when they arrived. 8. However the police in its FIR mentions that they were caught having sex in the park and arrested. 9. It appears that there has been no medical examination done on these men even though they have been charged under Section 377 which requires such an examination within 24 hrs of the arrest. 10.In the police FIR, 13 other people have been named with their mobile numbers. 11.Bharosa and NFI Regional Office have been informed through sources that the SSP had made a statement at a Press Meeting (5th January) that he will deal with the HIV/AIDS organisations working with these people for promoting homosexuality. Since the 5th January, Bharosa along with NFI Regional Office Executive Director, has been in communication with a range of police, government officials, UNAIDS, and others, as well as meeting with the various police officials and bureaucrats responsible for law and order, as well as the Project Director of UPSACS to argue that the arrests were illegal, and further, the continued harassment and potential victimisation of so- called homosexuals was greatly interfering with Bharosa's outreach work ad threatened the existence of both Bharosa and NFI Regional Office. NFI also was able to get in touch with Peter Piot of UNAIDS Geneva, Denis Broun, Country Director of UNAIDS India, and Mr. JVR Prasada Rao, Director of the UNAIDS Asia Pacific Regional Support Team in Bangkok, along with a number of its Patrons such as Lord Navneet Dholakia in London, as well as the British Foreign and Commonwealth Office, and government representatives in other countries to address its concerns about the police and official attitudes in UP with regard to providing prevention, support and care services for `MSM'. Over the last three days, the National Campaign for Sexuality Rights initiated a fact finding team which visited Lucknow. The team included Mr. E Manohar a human rights activist from Bangalore; Arvind Narain Alternate Law Forum; Vivek Diwan Human Rights lawyer; Jashodhara Dasgupta Sahyog representative; Tulika Srivastava ALLI representative; Maya Sharma PRAMA representative. The team of six has completed their fact finding mission, and their report was released to the press in Lucknow on the 12th January, 2006. Currently, the original four men are still in jail under judicial custody. Bharosa Human Rights Cell has pleaded bail for one of these men (who did not have their own lawyers). For the other three men their lawyers are handling the case. The threatening attitude and possible harassment of both NFI Regional Office and Bharosa by local police is very distressing, particularly when the National AIDS Control Organisation itself is planning to scale up targeted interventions for vulnerable populations in the country. One outcome already achieved by the work of NFI and Bharosa in this current situation has been that UNAIDS in India
g_b Protests mount in India over arrest of gay men
Protests mount in India over arrest of gay men Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:08 AM ET By Palash Kumar NEW DELHI (Reuters) - Gay activists held a rare and noisy protest in the Indian capital on Thursday demanding the release of four men arrested for homosexuality and running an online gay club. Homosexuality is banned in India under a 19th century law but is prevalent undercover. About two dozen gay men and women and their supporters gathered outside the New Delhi guesthouse of the northern Uttar Pradesh state which ordered the arrest of the four last week. The protesters from the largely closeted gay community waved banners and placards which read: My sexuality, My right, Queer and Proud, and I am a man. I love a man. That's my only crime. The entire case is fabricated, said Guam Bhang, a gay rights activist. None of the men were having public sex. They have been arrested simply because they are homosexual. Human rights and anti-AIDS groups have slammed the arrests saying such discrimination will hurt the fight against HIV/AIDS. Criminalization of people most at risk of HIV infection may increase stigma and discrimination, ultimately fuelling the AIDS epidemic, UNAIDS India coordinator Denis Braun told Reuters. India has 5.1 million people with HIV/AIDS, the second largest number after South Africa. New York-based Human Rights Watch sent a letter to Prime Minister Man Mohan Singh, protesting against the arrests. Luck now police have a shameful record of harassing gay men as well as non-governmental organizations that work with them, said Human Rights Watch official Scott Long in a statement. © Reuters 2006. All Rights Reserved. Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b HIV/AIDS Intervention programmes are shifting focus to colleges/gyms
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1369983.cms Intervention programmes to prevent HIV/AIDS among MSMs are shifting focus to colleges and gyms. I am 22- yrs-old and would like to hook up with gay men in Hyderabad/India. I am 6ft in height and clean-shaven. you can contact me. This personal ad appears in a website for homosexuals in the city, and is indicative that people here are now declaring their sexuality more openly and actively out seeking partners. The other spectrum of the same trend sees intervention programmes in educational institutions and gyms targeting 'vulnerable youngsters' in order to educate them on safe sex and 'incorporate them into the mainstream.' According to sources in the government, there are about 40,000 men in the city who indulge in sex with men, of whom, 5,000 have declared their sexual preference. Mithrudu conducts intervention programmes working in conjunction with APSACS (AP State Aids Controls Society) towards spreading HIV/AIDS awareness among MSMs (Men having Sex with Men). Its project manager G Prashanth Kumar says, Our main goal is to facilitate a change in their sexual behaviour which, most of the time, is an aberration and can be changed with support. He adds, We are planning interventions at colleges and gyms where there are possibilities for young men to indulge in unsafe sex. It is necessary to spread awareness about the problems of unsafe sex. We are making carefully targeted campaigns to channelise their behaviour at an early stage and spread awareness about HIV/AIDS, especially among those who have multiple partners and display high risk behaviour by not using condoms. According to a study spearheaded by Lalit Dandona of the Administrative Staff College of India (ASCI) about MSMs in Andhra Pradesh, there is a high rate of penetrative sex among MSMs, a majority of whom are bisexual. And a large number of MSMs indulge in unprotected anal sex. Subbha Reddy, communications officer of the APSACS project aiming to change high-risk behaviour, says, At present, awareness programmes in colleges are of a generic nature. The low condom usage among men involved with men is especially scary because 60 to 70 per cent of them are also actively involved with women. This means the virus has wider area to infect. Surprisingly, the fear of the disease is gradually fading, and many youngsters are unperturbed as they try to find partners from the Internet and other meeting grounds. Nanda Vardhan of Society for Integrated Development in Urban and Rural Areas, an NGO working in the area, says, The practice is becoming common and we advise parents to watch out for change of behaviour indicating a shift in their boys' sexual patterns. Hostels are another place to anticipate changes in sexual preferences. But the reformation is not the end of the road. Prashanth of Mithrudu, assures that, We were able to find jobs for 70 boys in call centers after providing them with counselling. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b NGOs demand release of men held for compromising in public
NGOs demand release of men held for `compromising in public' Express News Service Lucknow, January 12: SEVERAL state and national level NGOs have flayed the recent arrest of four men by the Lucknow Police on January 4 on the pretext of being gay and alleging sexual act in public places. The NGOs hold that they were not arrested from a park but picked from their homes. Addressing the media persons in the city on Thursday, the NGOs have demanded action against SSP Ashutosh Pandey, SHO Gudamba Anil Kumar Yadav and other police officials, and withdrawal of case against the four people arrested. They also demanded the repeal of Section 377 of the Indian Penal Code. ``Why does the police become so active when it comes to arresting people on the charge of being gay? Where are they when cases of rape and child sexual abuse lay pending in the police stations and courts for months and even years,'' said Tulika Srivastava of Association for Advocacy of Legal Initiative (AALI). BrideGroom 18-2526-3031-3536-4546-5099-50 Jashodhara of Sahyog too expressed similar sentiments. The representatives of NGOs like National Campaign for Sexuality Rights, AALI (Lucknow), Sahyog (Lucknow), Parma (Baroda) and lawyers Vivek Divan from Mumbai and Arvind Narain from Bangalore conducted a fact finding, where the met Principal Secretary (home) Alok Sinha, ADG (crime) R K Tiwari, SO Gudamba police station Anil Kumar Yadav, Rajesh Sharma advocate and representatives of various NGOs. Tulika and Jashodhara, alongwith Pratap of HIV and AIDS Citizens Forum shared the fact finding report with the media. ``We have found that none of the four men involved were having sex in public, leave alone being present at the spot from where they were reportedly arrested. Infact, the police had actually arrested only Nihal and mobile numbers of others were procured after torturing him. He was arrested at 11.30 pm on January 3, but others were arrested from a restaurant in Mahanagar, where the police had forced Nihal to call them,'' the activists alleged. The organisations, which also include Action Aid, Bharosa, Care India, FPAI, Gudiya, Healthwatch UP and Bihar, Humsafar, Masvaw, UPNN, Vigyan Foundation and Vananagana, have demanded the withdrawal of case against the four accused. They have also demanded strict action against the police officials involved and the repeal of Section 377 of IPC. SSP Lucknow Ashutosh Pandey has denied all the allegations made against the police department. ``Gay culture is against Indian culture and we are only doing things under the law,'' he said. About arresting the accused Nihal Naqvi from his house and the others, Pramit Bailey, Pankaj Gupta and Ashutosh Khanna after 10 hours of the first arrest, Pandey said the accused were arrested from a park when they were indulging in the `act'. Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b press conference today between 3-5 pm in mumbai against lucknow arrests
Hi All Queer groups are holding a press conference today- (13th January 2006) between 3-5 pm at the press club, next to vt , azad maidan, opp bmc, to protest arrests of gay men in lucknow. please join and or forward this message moderator Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b India: Repeal colonial-era sodomy law, urges Human Rights Watch
India: Repeal colonial-era sodomy law, urges Human Rights Watch
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Entrapment, Arrests Harm AIDS Prevention Efforts
(Delhi, January 11, 2006) -- New arrests of gay men in Lucknow,
Indiathe scene of a case in 2001 that drew worldwide protestsshow
that India's colonial-era sodomy law continues to threaten human
rights and encourage the spread of HIV, Human Rights Watch said
today in a letter to Prime Minister Dr. Manmohan Singh.
On January 4, Lucknow police arrested four men on charges of
operating a gay racket on the Internet, as well as of engaging
in unnatural sex. Police claim they seized the men while having a
picnic in a public place, and accused them of belonging to
an international gay club centered around the Internet website
guys4men.com, on which gay men can place personals and engage in
Internet chat. Reports received by Human Rights Watch indicate that
undercover police, posing as gay on the website, entrapped one man,
then forced him to call others and arrange a meeting where they were
arrested.
Lucknow police have a shameful record of harassing gay men as well
as non-governmental organizations that work with them, said Scott
Long, director of Human Rights Watch's Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and
Transgender Rights Program. They are able to do so because India's
government clings to the criminalization of homosexual conduct,
which only prevents people from coming forward for HIV/AIDS testing,
information, and services.
In July 2001, Lucknow police, apparently spurred by an informer,
raided the local offices of two nongovernmental organizations (NGOs)
working on HIV/AIDS prevention, the Naz Foundation International
(NFI) and Bharosa Trust. Four staff members were jailed for 47 days
in deplorable conditions, accused of running a gay sex racket.
Police declared the HIV/AIDS-related information materials seized in
the raided offices obscene. They charged the men under India's
sodomy law, criminal conspiracy, aiding and abetting a crime and the
sale of obscene materials. After international condemnation of the
detention of the Lucknow Four, the case was eventually dropped.
In a 2002 report, Epidemic of Abuse, Human Rights Watch documented
how India's sodomy law has been used to harass HIV/AIDS prevention
efforts, as well as sex workers, men who have sex with men, and
other groups at risk of the disease. Section 377 of the Indian Penal
Code, titled Of Unnatural Offences, punishes carnal intercourse
against the order of nature with up to ten years' imprisonment. It
was introduced by British rulers in the nineteenth century.
A challenge to section 377's constitutionality was brought was
brought before the Delhi High Court in 2001 by the Naz Foundation
India, asking the court to declare the law should no longer apply to
consenting adults. In response, the then government stated that The
purpose of section 377 of IPC is to provide a healthy environment in
the society by criminalising unnatural sexual activities. The case
ended indecisively, and litigation is still pending.
Section 377 strikes at the basic right to privacy, said
Long. This case shows how it is used against rights to free
expression and to meeting in a public place. It casts a pall over
public health efforts.
Human Rights Watch said that India's constitution protects the right
to equality, freedoms of speech and assembly and right to personal
liberty. The International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights
(ICCPR), to which India acceded in 1979, guarantees freedom from
discrimination. In the case of Toonen v. Australia in 1994, the
United Nations Human Rights Committee held these protections against
discrimination in all areas of rights should be understood to
include sexual orientation.
Human Rights Watch Press release
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Vacancies at CHILDLINE INDIA FOUNDATION Childline India Foundation (CIF) is a non-profit organization that implements CHILDLINE 1098, a 24-hour emergency Helpline for children in crisis situations. With a network of over 160 partner organizations in 65 cities/districts in India, CIF works towards bridging gaps in child protection service delivery and advocates nationally and internationally for child friendly systems and policy. CIF invites applications for the following posts: 1. Program Coordinator-Fundraising and Communication Location: Mumbai Organization: CHILDLINE India Foundation Role/Responsibilities: a. Accountability for Individual-Donor Programs b. Media Relations and PR agency management. c. Advertising Communications and Advt agency management. d. Accountability for Communication, PR Programs e. Management of Donor Relationship Program f. Interface with CIF operations teams /partners for Resource Mobilisation programs integration with programs. g. Monitor Corporate aided programs. h. Join other team members at Fund Raiser Events and all other activities of the Team. Deliverables: 1. Resource Mobilisation Goals from Individual Donor program (target driven) 2. Delivery of all Communication programs and PR programs. 3. Up to date Donor Relationship Program management. Qualification: Masters Degree in Management/ Humanities/ Communication PR./ 1-2 years experience in fund raising with a reasonably large NGO and working on a multiple model Fund Raising Program is preferred. Excellent communication skills including written, oral and presentation (English). Familiarity with Computers including Word, Excel, PPT is necessary. General: The position reports to Head of Fund Raising and Communication Group. This is a full time position and will entail travel within Mumbai and occasionally out of city. We work 5 days a week and on 2 Saturdays/mth, we work half days upto 3 PM. B: Program Assistant for Fund Raising and Communication Group: Location: Mumbai Organization: CHILDLINE India Foundation Role/Responsibilities: Complete Back-office Management for Fund Raising and Communication team. Follow ups including tele-follow-ups, Correspondence, Filing, Database management, Records and project tracking, internal liaison. Qualification: Good quality Graduate degree in Humanities/Commerce with excellent Computer skills. Note: For Both positions, only candidates who are currently resident in Mumbai need apply. To apply: email CV to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or post it to CHILDLINE India Foundation, 2nd Floor, Nana Chowk Municipal School, Frere Bridge, Lower level, Nr Grant Rd Station, Mumbai 400 007. Phone: 23871098. Co CHILDLINE India Foundation, 2nd floor, Nana Chowk Municipal School, Lower Level, Frere Bridge, Grant Road (west), Mumbai - 7 Ph Nos: 23871098, 2388 1098 Fax No: 2381 1098 --- End forwarded message --- Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b Special meeting on Lucknow arrests on Sunday, January 8--Courtesy Humsafar
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g_b Gays, harassment in India and emigration
Hi All Someone suggested that India is not worth living in following the recent arrest of gays in Lucknow, the constituency of our ex prime minister, Atal Bihari Vajpayee and supposedly a culture capital (many would dispute that Lucknow is a culture centre anymore) The writer suggested that one could immigrate to Canada. Aditya has given a good reply. I am also pasting links contained in a recent mail on another group that I am a part of , which talks of migration to Canada and the first hand experiences of thousands of those who did emigrate. Regards Moderator http://notcanada.com/ www.CanadaImmigrants.com www.CaribbeanMedicine.com/OpenLetter.htm http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Canada2America courtesy GB Aditya Bondyopadhyay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat Jan 7, 2006 5:55 pm Subject: Re: gb FULL TOI Article on Lucknow arrests adit_bond_2 Offline Send Email Dear Amit, I understand and empathise with your sentiments. But I am sorry I cannot agree or sympathise with you. If everyone runs away to be 'better' second class citizens in the west or wherever, then even after 25 years the next-to-next generation would still be living, to quote your own phrase - dog's life of a gay guy in this country. History often burdens a certain generation with a certain task. It does so, so that those that follow can live better and enjoy the fruit of the labour of that burden. To give that labour and bear that burden demands certain sacrifice of personal happiness. It is best that only those who are willing take on this burden, for we cannot take it half way and ditch it then. I want to bear it till the end. I am proud to know many others who are also similarly willing. So yes, you go. I will stay. Best regards, Aditya Bondyopadhyay On 06/01/06, Jeff Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... With each passing day, I can't help but realize that this country is really not worth livingI know I am an indian, born and brought up here etc etc etc.. But believe me I came back after 4 yrs of living abroad with a lot of promise and expectation and I will mince no words to say --- Living abroad even as a second class citizen is MUCH MUCH MUCH better than a dog's life of a gay guy in this country... If you guys get a chance to immigrate to Canada, please do so and if possible try and immigrate on asylum - fearing life in this our own country... Sorry, I can only be more brutal than this not less.. Amit.. Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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g_b NGOs allege police high handedness in arrest of 'gays'
http://www.newkerala.com/news.php?action=fullnewsid=80278 NGOs allege police high handedness in arrest of 'gays' Lucknow: Following the recent arrest of four alleged gays by the Uttar Pradesh Police here, NGOs associated with the third phase of National Aids Prevention Programme (NAPP-3) have claimed it could derail the programme. A group of NGOs even sent a letter to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh -- who is also the National AIDS Council chairperson -- apprising him of the ''police harrassement'' of the reported gays in the city. The NGOs working for the prevention of AIDS have already asked the centre to amend section 377 of the IPC, which deals with the gay activity with imprisonment of upto 10 yrs. Naz Foundation International executive director Arif Zaffar told UNI here today it was ''unethical'' to term people as ''gay''. ''It will certainly hamper the HIV/AIDS prevention programme in UP as people involved in homosexual behaviour are more prone to the HIV/AIDS,'' he added. Mr Zaffar opined police could charge the arrested people with indecent sexual behaviour in a public place, but disclosing their names and phone numbers was ''unethical.'' The Foundation officials alleged police was trying to implicate the NGOs involved in AIDS prevention programmes in UP for promoting homosexuality. According to an NGO associate, a recent NAPP-3 report claimed the section 377 was the main hurdle in containing HIV/AIDS as homosexuals were most ''vulnerable to HIV/AIDS.'' United Nation Gays India report to be submitted in May during the special session on HIV-AIDS in the UN General Assembly also projected there were about a lakh homosexuals in Uttar Pradesh of which 5,000 have already been identified in Lucknow. The meeting of the NGOs, which was represented by Naz India Foundation, Action Aid, Network for people Living with HIV-AIDS had also expressed high-handedness by the police. On the night of January 3, cops had arrested four men indulging in ''unnatural sex'' at a picnic spot here. Upon interrogation, the four -- Nihal Ahmed, an asistant accountant in the State Public Services Commission, Pankaj, a college teacher and Ashutosh and Pritam working in an ad agency -- revealed they were members of the gay club. The quartet confessed they interacted with 'willing members' using a website which was password protected. The willing members met and indulged in sexual acts at secluded spots. The arrested people claimed the members of the club were spread as far away as Singapore, Delhi, Jhansi, Chennai and Bareilly. The accused also provided police with names and mobile numbers of 18 other members. Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b UK rights group flays arrest of gays in India
UK rights group flays arrest of gays in India London | January 06, 2006 10:35:33 PM IST A gay rights group in the UK has reacted strongly to the arrest of four men on charges of indulging in homosexuality at Lucknow in Uttar Pradesh on January 3. While the Uttar Pradesh police claimed to have arrested the accused on charges of indulging in ''unnatural sex'' at a picnic spot, gay rights group OutRage alleged that they had been arrested just for running an organisation that put gay people in touch with one another. David Allison, a member of the group, said: ''This isn't illegal in India, the law criminalises the act of gay sex, not being gay itself.'' ''It is worrying if Indian police starts doing what the London Metropolitan Police did in the 1950s and starts building up a database of people suspected of being gay,'' Mr Allison added. On the night of January 3, cops had arrested four men on charges of indulging in ''unnatural sex'' at a picnic spot here. On being questioned, the four -- Nihal Ahmed, an asistant accountant in the State Public Services Commission, Pankaj, a college teacher and Ashutosh and Pritam working in an ad agency -- revealed they were members of a gay club. The quartet confessed they interacted with 'willing members' using a website which had a protected password. Willing members met and indulged in sexual acts at secluded spots. The accused claimed the members of the club were spread as far away as Singapore, Delhi, Jhansi, Chennai and Bareilly. The accused also provided police with names and mobile numbers of 18 other members. Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b MMS porn racket busted in Mumbai
MMS porn racket busted in Mumbai Nafisa Islam CNN-IBN Updated 0811 hrs IST (+GMT 5:30), 07.01.06 Email Print Mumbai: Mumbai police have arrested 22 people and claims to have busted a huge MMS pornography racket. Police say they caught the men when they went posing as decoy customers to five shops in the city's Indraprasth shopping mall. Pornographic material worth Rs 2.5 lakh along with eight mobile phones, seven computers, eight memory cards and seven CD writers were confiscated in the raid. They would transfer materials from the computers to the mobiles, deputy commissioner of police Dattatray Karale said. The police say that pornographic material is a hot favourites and is sold at prices ranging from Rs 100 to a Rs 1000 a clip, depending on the freshness and content of the clippings. These men have been charged under two cases under the IPC Act, Information Technology Act and Copyright Act, Karale added. Authorities are still investigating the root of this racket. They are not sure if it was being opertaed by a private agency or if these people were just downloading from the internet. Of the 22 people held, five are employers and although the police claims most of the customers are youngsters, they have not been able to trace anyone who used to buy the pornographic clips. Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b GB New Year Eve Bash: A rip-off for non alcholics ?
From: Vikram [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue Jan 3, 2006 5:01 pm Subject: Re: GB New Year Eve Bash: A rip-off for non alcholics vgd67 Offline Send Email Jayesh D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Non-alcoholics (those who don't consume alcoholic beverages at GB Parties) always get an unfair deal at GB parties but for them yesterday's New Year Bash was a total rip-off. In a deluge of expensive booze available at no extra cost, non-alcoholics (hence forth referred to as NAs) had to shell out more for every drop of comparative cheaper fruit-juice and mineral water. The only thing that NA's could consume unlimited were the so-called 'aerated waters'. Are you including soft drinks in aerated waters? Because regular (not diet) soft drinks were certainly available as part of the package. And I don't know why your Coke was warm Rani, because ice was not in short supply. OK, being a bit more serious now, I will acknowledge that in general you have a point. GB hasn't been that fair to non-drinkers and we are certainly not consistent about following up promises of mocktails. There are reasons for this, which I'll get into in a moment, but I accept your point that we haven't been fair here. I do want to point out though that I don't see why you have such grounds for complaint about this New Years party. Unlike most parties where we might give assurances, which aren't honoured, at this party we were quite clear in advance what would and would not be available. And mocktails, fruit juices, diet sodas, Red Bull and mineral water were not. I specifically remember writing on these lists that this was the result of our negotiations with the management for a package that could include unlimited drinks and food. In return for agreeing to this, the management insisted on taking some items off the list and these were the marginally more expensive items like fruit juices and diet sodas. Their argument was that with the small margins they were working on, they couldn't risk making an unlimited offer on this, and for better or worse we accepted that. Any negotiations over the organisation of an event on this scale is going to involve compromises and this is where we decided to do so. You can fairly accuse us of shortselling non-drinkers by doing this, but you can't say you didn't know. For this party what was on offer was made clear in advance. It seems a bit sad that your entire experience of this party, which others seem to have really enjoyed, was conditioned by the non-availability of non-alcoholic drinks, but if it was so important, than shouldn't you have spared yourself the agony and just not come? Jayesh wrote: A further more unfair option available to NA's was to exchange 2 drink coupons for a fruit juice served in 180 - 200 ml. glass again topped with ice. The retail price of a 500 ml carton if Real fruit juice costs Rs. 90/-. Yesterday, the juice that was earlier included in the cover/entry charge had to be bought at Rs. 50/-. You can't compare fruit juices to alcoholic drinks because the volume consumed per drink of the former is more than of the latter. A litre of fruit juice is going to go in 4-5 glasses, whereas a litre of vodka is going to last for 15-20 glasses. Propotionately fruit juices are more expensive to serve per glass and that is why they are treated separately by most hotels. From what I know of the hospitality business, I think there are other reasons why non-alcoholic drinks, apart from regular soft drinks, provide problems for clubs (but Dee's more professional inputs would be appreciated here). There's the greater cost, and if one tries to economise by making mocktails in bulk there is the problem of both the effort to do so and the fact that such drinks aren't as easily stored. Since its not as easy predicting how many people will want mocktails, its hard for clubs to decide how much to prepare in advance. And since most of the stuff won't keep that easily, the excess is thrown away, causing much more wastage than with alcoholic drinks which can be kept for the next party. Its a fact that mocktails are a pain for clubs, which is why they prefer not to do them. This is not trying to excuse ourselves for not providing them when they are promised (I am not talking about the New Years party here, when they weren't promised). Our aim with these parties is to produce an experience that is good for both the clients and the clubs, so that we are assured of support from both in the future. I accept that in this process, and with our general lack of time, we may have been too easy on the clubs in this matter. We can only promise to try better in the coming year. Jayesh wrote: In an era where in alcoholic beverages are the preferred drinks, I see no logic in taxing people who do not consume them. Rather it makes more business sense to charge more for something that more in demand than for something that isn't. Huh? Niche products are
g_b Zoom TV - Program on Homosexuality Transexuality in India
courtesy gb = Zoom TV - Program on Homosexuality Transexuality in India Hi All Guess most of you'll didnt see the program 'Just Pooja' on Zoom TV which aired on Dec 31, 2005 at 10 pm, as you'll were busy in New Year eve parties. That's why I'm writing this, so that those who want to, should not miss its repeat telecast this Wed at 9 pm. parth ... Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b hanuman debate
hi all the fellow who objected to the posting the hanuman pic turned out to be a psycho case. to each of the person who expressed his view on the subject, he sent hateful and abusive mails cursing everyone saying all homos will die of aids etc. fortunately, all his mails were in the que waiting for moderation. his mails (some 4-5 of them) were so abusive that i had to delete all of them and also ban the person. good riddance to bad rubbish. as far as i am concerned, the hanuman debate is closed. let's move on, shall we? regards moderator Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/ftt1lB/TM ~- Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b India Enlists Barbers In Fight Against HIV/AIDS
India Enlists Barbers In Fight Against HIV/AIDS by The Associated Press Posted: December 27, 2005 3:00 pm ET (New Delhi) Along with the usual hair lotions and creams, Ganga Ram, a barber who does business in the shade of banyan tree, also has the latest tools of his trade - a small pile of condoms and booklets on AIDS prevention. When men settle into Ram's barber chair in New Delhi's Lajpat Nagar market they become captive to what Ram calls his real mission - to help them avoid the deadly virus that has infected 5.13 million people in this country of a billion people. India may be the birthplace of Kama Sutra, the 6th century sex manual, but it is also a deeply conservative society. Gay sex is punishable by prison terms and discussing any sexual matters is usually taboo. That makes India's chatty, itinerant barbers a valuable means of spreading the AIDS message. A unique prevention program has trained Ram and more than 10,000 barbers in sterilizing their razors and scissors, and has also tutored them to promote condom use, recognize the symptoms of AIDS and answer commonly asked questions about the illness. Sometimes men find it awkward to discuss their sexual habits. Then I wait till their faces are covered with shaving foam, or I've started cutting their hair, before broaching the topic, says Ram with a wry laugh. They can't run away then. Indian barbers have a history of offering more than just cutting hair. Traditionally they would travel from village to far-flung village, giving haircuts to regular customers. As they became familiar figures, they often would serve as matchmakers for their customers' families, and spread news of births, deaths or gossip. Today, all over India, the barbershop - often little more than a chair, a mirror and a pair of scissors - is where men gather each day, reading the newspaper and chatting as they await their turn. It is where Swiss-based Association Francois-Xavier Bagnoud, a health-centered aid agency, saw an opportunity to get the men's attention. Take the case of Sumeru Mahto. An itinerant construction worker, he moves around New Delhi a lot but always returns to the same barber for his twice-weekly shave, and stays to chat. This city is crowded with strangers who come in search of work. They have no families, few friends, said Mahto. You could say the barber is the closest I have to family in this city. The intervention program has put this traditional barber's role to use. Often it's not easy. Men are still shy about discussing their sexual encounters, but I find they tell me things they wouldn't even tell their wives, said Ram. Experts say education is vital in India, where sexually transmitted diseases are attributed to bad hygiene awareness, widespread migration of labor, low literacy levels and gender disparities. Manisha Pal, a coordinator of the barber program, said another reason for targeting men is that most women in male-dominated India often have no power to make sex-related decisions. If a barber suspects a problem, he refers the customer to an AIDS clinic, she said. The agency works closely with India's state-run National AIDS Control Organization which supplies it with the free condoms and information booklets. Barbers are also able to reach out to the gay community in India even though homosexuality remains a crime under an archaic law that dates to British colonial rule. But Pal notes: Even homosexual men need haircuts, and have responded well to the program. ©365Gay.com 2005 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/ftt1lB/TM ~- Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b Still a grey area
Still a grey area DEBASHIS KONAR [ Wednesday, December 21, 2005 08:51:19 pmTIMES NEWS NETWORK ] http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1340835.cms Ruby Sain, head sociology dept, JU: With changing human values now homosexual relationship is being accepted in the society, still we are unable to talk about it openly. Thus due to the Indian psyche, celebs are unable to support the sexual minority groups. While in the West celebs think of it in terms of violation of rights. Psychiatrist Dr JR Ram: Section 377 of the IPC should be repealed, as it is still a criminal offence to claim to be a gay or lesbian. I have seen many cases where homosexuals had to marry and pretend to be heterosexual, as they cannot express themselves. Gays or lesbians are perfectly all right as human beings. They need not be treated as mental patients as it's not a disease. But due to society pressure they remain in darkness. Sociologist Samit Kar: Homosexuality is no more a hush hush affair in the West, but here we are yet to accept that boldly. Moreover, we are pretending to be modern Pawan Dhall, Kolkata director of Saathii (Solidarity and action against the HIV infection in India): More and more celebs are coming forward to support the sexually minorities. Even fashion designer Wendell Rodricks did not bother to declare openly about his wedding with Jerome Marel. We are organising a TV show where we will have Sanjay Suri, Lillette Dubey and Purab Kohli along with Onir of My Brother Nikhil fame. Even city celebs Rupa Ganguly, Kaushik Sen and artist Paritosh Sen will participate in the talk shows. ... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/ftt1lB/TM ~- Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b Shangri-La murder in New Delhi takes a 'gay' turn
Shangri-La murder takes a 'gay' turn Shakti Sharma New Delhi, December 13, 2005The mystery behind the murder of a 50- year-old man in the Shangri-La hotel complex in the national capital took an interesting turn on Tuesday with forensic experts suggesting that the victim was a habitual gay. The body of Vijay Kumar Bhaskar, a telecom manager of Eros Group of companies, which owns the hotel, was found in the office complex behind the hotel building with strangulation marks on his neck on Sunday. The experts, who conducted autopsy on the body told investigators that Bhaskar was 'habitual gay'. Police, who earlier believed that some woman was behind the murder, are now on the look out for some gay friends of the victim. They have already rounded up several of his friends in this connection. According to sources, the person who is being interrogated was a close friend of the victim and both used to make trips to outstation destinations. On Saturday, Bhaskar left for office as usual and was last seen in the office at about 6 pm. Shortly after midnight the assistant manager of Shangri La hotel received a call from his home that Bhaskar had not returned from the office. Following this the security staff went to office and discovered his body lying in the toilet of his office. Bhaskar's body was in semi nude condition and only his mobile phone was found missing. Police has found out that the last call from his mobile was at about 5.35 pm on Saturday and was then switched off. Bhaskar was an employee of Eros Constructions Private Limited Company and was working with Shangri La hotel as a Project Manager - Telephones on contract basis. He was responsible for laying intercom wires, closed circuit TV's in the hotel. This is the second such incident in the national capital. In 2004, the gay murder of Pushkin Chandra rocked Delhi. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Clean water saves lives. Help make water safe for our children. http://us.click.yahoo.com/YNG3nB/VREMAA/E2hLAA/WfTolB/TM ~- Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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g_b GAY FILM FESTIVAL : DISCUSSIONS, DEBATES WERE HELD
GAY FILM FESTIVAL : DISCUSSIONS, DEBATES WERE HELD Wide response for gays Express News Service Pune, December 4: THE Samabhavana Society working with people of alternate sexual preferences showcased the same-sex-love culture existing in India via films, posters, photo exhibitions, discussions and debates. The event titled Astitva 2005 was held on Saturday and Sunday at Udyan Prasad Karyalay. ``The gay community faces stigma. Besides, having low acceptability they are regarded as being impotent,'' says Jasmir Thakur, member of the Samabhavana Society. The posters created by Rudra K M, information, education and communication officer with Sambhabhana society, were aimed at promoting a more tolerant attitude and stopping violence against AIDS-affected individuals apart from promulgating safe sex. Three short films on homosexuality, produced by Samabhavana Society and HIVOS, a Holland-based agency, and directed by Sachin Kundalkar were shown at the festival. The first one, Dhruv and I deals with emotions of homosexuals while The Bath is based on male sex workers and their emotional issues. The third film, Positive Portrait is a silent musical spot of five minutes dealing with the problems of an HIV positive man. The posters displayed at Udyan Prasad Karyalay contain illustrations on HIV, safe sex, stigmas attached with the homosexuals and discrimination against the gay community. The posters on condoms reflected ingenuous ideas like a poster showing a condom posed as a gladiator and another one depicting a mirchi in a condom with a catchline- ``Condom mirchi, its hot.'' Discussions were also held to remove misconceptions generally associated with the gay community. ``People must be sensitised towards homosexuals. They must realise that gay persons are inormal human beings differing only in their emotional and physical needs,'' says Thakur. The festival saw a good response particularly from women and the city's gay community. Several elderly men and women also participated in the discussions. The festival will move to Delhi, Lucknow, Hyderabad, Bangalore, Calcutta and Manipur to create awareness. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Help save the life of a child. Support St. Jude Children's Research Hospital. http://us.click.yahoo.com/cRr2eB/lbOLAA/E2hLAA/WfTolB/TM ~- Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b Old wine in very old bottles
Old wine in very old bottles http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1564147,0036.htm Here we go again! Section 377 of the Indian Penal Code cannot be abolished or read down because (1) It protects our children. (2) To protect public morality. (3) To prevent obscenity. Choose any, or all, of the three to stop those nasty homosexuals from over-running the country. After ten years of consistent campaigning, the country's sexual minorities, who include the very visible hijras and the very invisible bisexual men and women, have been included willy-nilly in the government's programmes. Hijras have just got a separate column in passport forms courtesy the External Affairs Ministry and the very invisible bisexuals have been included in the contact-tracing forms at the thousands of voluntary confidential counselling testing centres (VCCTCs) supported by the Health Ministry, down to every district hospital. But here we have the Home Ministry lecturing to us, yet again, about morality even as the HIV graph shows a rock-steady climb despite years of work by the National AIDS Control Organization (NACO) since the early 1990s. In fact, NACO circulated its latest Budgetary Guidelines for Targeted Interventions in February this year, to every official State AIDS Control Society (SACS) stating that the Core Populations each SACS must compulsorily fund are IVDU (Intravenous Drug Users), Sex Workers (both male and female), and the rather perplexing MSM, whose full form is Men- Having-Sex-With-Men (MSM). Read behaviourally homosexual males. Obviously, the left hand of the government does not know what the right hand is doing. It's like the Indian Rope Trick: you see the rope rising in the air but not the person who is pulling it upwards! If the most important health programme of the government accepts homosexuals as a vulnerable group, how on earth does the very important Home Ministry, which has just told us the earth shattering news that it cannot curb Naxalism, go about policing something as private as sexuality? And wasn't it public morality that says child marriage is right? The Home Ministry hasn't been able to police Parliament's decision to stop them anywhere in India. Nor has it been able to prevent Sati that whole swathes of people in Rajasthan think is very moral act for a Hindu widow. Is it not true that the very Constitution of India was written so that each individual Indian's basic rights were protected against the morality of the majority? Argued another way, if the state really wished to encroach on private space, why is it not trying to stop domestic violence? Why, for example, does it not punish marital rape, which is the lot of women in India? Why are police not given enough powers to stop the bashing of women and the sexual violence against within their very homes? Surely there is merit in that argument when they have got as far as reservations for them from the Panchayats upwards? But then the very important State, our very Mai-Baap-Sarkar, hasn't been able to stop child labour, assure each able man or woman some gainful work, stop bride burning across the land, maintains silence when a father-in-law rapes a hapless women alone at home and gets a fatwa to marry her, is silent on talaqs by phone and email and even insists that Christian women be proved adulteress's to get a simple divorce. Why does it take such a stand now? What's so important about homosexuals that we get picked upon every time? If this is `Hindu morality the BJP better know that Section 377 of the IPC was brought in from Britain where it percolated into common law from Ecclesiastical Law, more specifically the St. James Bible where Leviticus rants and raves against same-sex relations. Britain threw out its anti-Sodomy statutes in 1968. But obviously, it is all right to defend a law that Christian evangelists keep on selectively quoting as the main floodgate against morality. Which goes to show that all fundamentalists have something in common, I suppose. It is a trifle puzzling that it should come from as liberal a party as the Congress that has always stood for reformation and welcomed change through progressive movements. Maybe homosexuals do not form a constituency who can vote and insist on their rights being defended on consensual relations in private between two adults. This profoundly disturbing repetition of an old argument has to be brought to a logical end. Maybe the World Health Organisation (WHO), which has removed homosexuality from its list of mental disorders, can impress upon the Government the following argument which is now a guideline in the Health Ministry's budgetary books to every State Health Ministry: Each of the core populations, that have been mentioned as very seriously infected and affected by HIV IVDU, sex workers and MSM are criminal in the eyes of the law in India. The Narcotics and Psychotropic Drug Control Act
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g_b chennai lgbt film festival
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g_b hiv+ and giving up on life (from vikram)
from vikram (vgd67) I'm feeling guilty about not writing about Kajol's death earlier. I didn't know her well, but met her enough to experience her spunk and great spirits which life seems to have battered out of her towards the end. I met her in Bangalore first, with Famila, and what struck me most about them was how unashamed they were. Many of us, no matter how empowered we might feel, have had times when we've felt ashamed and awkward about our sexuality, so it was amazing to see these two who were completely confident about being both hijras and sex workers. They contrasted with each other. Famila was beautiful, contained, had huge poise and was an obvious leader. Kajol was much more effervescent, chatty, almost 'child-like' as the message above says, and happy to be the supporter to Famila. Both of them are captured as such in the BBC documentary 'India's Ladyboys' which follows them and gets really deep into their lives as they prepare and then go for the Koovagam festival in Tamil Nadu. It will be hard film to watch now, but we are trying to arrange a screening in Bombay. Famila and Kajol always seemed to go so much together that I can't really imagine what a blow it must have been for Kajol when Famila committed suicide. I met her once after that and she was still smiling and friendly, but now she seemed fragile and sometimes the chattiness just died away. I can see now how things just started falling away for her after that and perhaps in the light of that what happened to her seems more comprehensible. Because essentially, I think, Kajol committed suicide too - just more prolonged and painful and humiliating than Famila had done. She committed suicide just as surely as Riyad did, by refusing to take the medications that could have helped her live. (And cost wasn't the factor since her friends were willing to support the cost of the treatment). And that is what I find so hard to understand and perhaps is why I couldn't write about it, just as its the one fact I couldn't understand with Riyad. Both were strong characters and both were not stupid and knew enough of HIV to know what was happening to them and how they could avoid it. Taking the medications is no picnic, yet its possible to do it and enjoy a decent life now. Both refused, and they died, and we have to ask ourselves why. At one level its easy to answer. It was depression, it was tiredness at fighting the constant battle, it was the feeling that enough was enough and now was the time to go. But that answer is just more complicated for us, because is that what is going to happen as more and more people turn positive? Is this what is happening now as guys turn positive and then just suddenly disappear from the scene? Is this what is going to happen in the future as unsafe sex continues and people get fatalistic and figure out that they can't escape and it will just happen? That is a disastrous answer for us, and that is what we need to introspect about, at Kajol's memorial and at our other meetings wherever we are. We need to find ways to provide alternatives, to help convince people that it doesn't have to be this way, that there are ways to get around it, to take the medicines and live. And if they still decide to go this way then we have to figure out how to accept their decision without also accepting that this will be the decision for us all. OK, now I'm wandering, so I'll stop, but I'd just again encourage all those in Bangalore to attend the meeting, for those in Bombay to come for the screening of 'India's Ladyboys' when we manage to set it up, and for us all to think of Kajol, a brave and bright person, who still took a decision that hopefully we will never have to take, Vikram Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/WfTolB/TM ~- Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:
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g_b life partner-- expectations vs reality
courtesy gb === Friends, Well, I cannot give an answer that fits all, but I would like to share my own experience. I met my BF 4 years back cruising the streets of Calcutta. He was everything that was not my 'type'. I wanted an intellectual and got a school dropout. I wanted a 'politically savvy' one, and got one who could not exaclty tell me the difference between 'prime-minister' and 'president'. I wanted someone well settled / established in his field of work, and got a person who had been laid off a few months back. I wanted someone who was 'empowered', and got someone who had been / was still being kicked around quiet a bit by many; I wanted someone who did not give damn about 'fashion', and got someone who liked the brands better that sarojini nagar market. I wanted someone who loved indian classical music and dance, and got one whose idea of music was gangsta rap played at 120 decibels in sublime disregard of supreme court orders on noise pollution. As to dance, that only happened in discos under the influence of beer. I wanted someone who would be a good conversationalist, and got someone whom I still interrupt frequently to correct improper usage of grammer. I wanted someone tall, and got someone a full 7 inches shorter than me. Well, all that notwithstanding, we met and decided over the next 30 minutes that we should be living together. The only thing that I liked about the person was his naivity and childlike guile-less innocence, something that was almost unreal in the world of NGO politics that I lived in. It was 12 days later that he fought with his family at 2 in the morning and left home in a petulant huff with only the clothes he was wearing and nothing else. He fought because his family did not like the idea of his coming to delhi and living with me. He called me up long distance in Delhi and at 2.30 a.m and I arranged for mutual friends to pick him up from the streets of Kolkata and let him stay with them for a few days. He arrived in Delhi 18 days after we met. We have been together since. And we have been very happy together. We have together created a home far away from the Barsati that was my hovel like abode earlier. WE have moved into an appartment and done it up to both our tastes. BF has made up with his family, and his family likes me more than him now. WE have 2 cars and we call both cars ours, without it being your car and my car. WE have our respective parents visiting us and staying with us alternately, and having quiet a ball. WE have together decided to not have pets as then we cannot take our annual vaccations together. We have, most importantly learned to trust and love each other, no matter what.Our fights are real, but they never encroach upon the ego to affect the relationship. When I think back, I feel that I am one lucy SOB to have got so much out of life. But then on deeper introspection, I also realise that the best thing that I have ever done in my life was to for once follow my heart and no be ruled by my head. I realise that till I met Hillol, I was always looking for the stereotype of the 'ideal person' that I had created in my head and therefore was never really looking at the real people that I was meeting. Or rather I was looking only at their falws vis-à-vis my stereotype, and rejecting them. And because the stereotype that I had created was so bloody loaded with virtues that it was impossible in real life, obviously I did not find anyone I would have wanted to be together with long term. Well that is the story. What are the 3 things that I think made it work: 1] WE both left our stereotypes and differences behind and gave each other an honest chance. And we allowed time to build upon things. 2] we did not beyond a point gave a shit about what parents will think and decided to stik to our decision to be together, and the family after the initial huff came round to accepting us. But then even if they did not we would still have continued to be together. 3] The very real differences in personas that existed between us, we bridged slowly by creating a lot of things that was ours together and was therefore the common interest points where our lives coincided, and bonded us. Points 1 and 3 above has been hard work, a learning process, but in the end extremely rewarding. Well a long mail that, should end here.. Aditya Bondyopadhyay Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a difference. Find and fund world-changing projects at GlobalGiving. http://us.click.yahoo.com/j2WM0C/PbOLAA/E2hLAA/WfTolB/TM ~- Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any
g_b best science pics of 2005
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g_b A peek into lives of the third sex
A peek into lives of the third sex IANS MUMBAI: Cinematographer Santosh Sivan has just completed a Tamil film Navarasa, which takes a compassionate and unflinching look at a third-sex community that meets annually during a festival in Tamil Nadu. It's a festival of great joy and great sadness... the perfect metaphor for life, says Sivan. He recently showed the film to the community to which it addresses itself... And they freaked out! said Sivan, who has won acclaim for his directorial ventures, Terrorist, Halo and the underrated Asoka. They were fascinated to see themselves on screen, in more ways than one. Not only have I depicted their lives with as much sensitivity as possible, but I've also used real life characters instead of actors. Almost every person in Navarasa plays himself, or something close, Sivan told IANS. Little is known about the third sex community from a place called Villupuram. Explains Sivan: You must understand that these are socio-culturally more refined and financially more privileged members of the third- gender community than those we see at traffic signals in Mumbai. This isn't a film about peering curiously into a minority community but actually a facsimile of a little known cultural phenomenon. Catching up with the reticent Sivan isn't an easy task. But now he seems to have acquired a new self-confidence as he talks about his recent work. Before getting into 'Navarasa' I found time to complete my first Malayalam film. I also took off to London to photograph Paul Berges' 'Mistress of Spices'. And now here I am. Navarasa is a film Santosh is specially proud of. It allows us to look at a fringe community of sophisticated third-sex people who believe that Krishna can turn into Mohini at will. I've intertwined myth with reality and by using the actors who are themselves gender challenged. The most interesting part of Navarasa is the authentic location and faces. Says Sivan, I've used only one Bollywood actor, and that's Bobby Darling. He simply got into the mood of the film, even participated at a local beauty contest for the third sex and won first prize! The entire film unfolds through the eyes of a 13-year-old girl, herself on the threshold of womanhood, who suddenly finds her uncle taken up by the family jewels. I've imagined the girl's shock, curiosity and acceptance as being indicative of how audiences would react to my film. I'm hoping Navarasa would help them to understand the working of a supposedly unconventional mind better. Pondering, Santosh continues: I often feel like that girl in the film, looking into the vast canvas of the painting of life, trying to find meanings to the puzzle of existence. What am I? A cinematographer or a director? I don't know... I make a living out of cinematography. But directing films is the love of my life. Santosh is on the verge of finalising two projects. Both are English films. I'd like to talk about them only when they're in place completely. I don't want to sound like people who keep threatening to do international films all the time. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Help save the life of a child. Support St. Jude Children's Research Hospital. http://us.click.yahoo.com/ons1pC/lbOLAA/E2hLAA/WfTolB/TM ~- Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b Interesting---The Aryan Invasion Theory-From BBC
http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/hinduism/history/history5.shtmlThe Aryan Invasion TheoryOne of the most controversial ideas about Hindu history is the Aryan invasion theory. This theory, originally devised by F. Max Muller in 1848, traces the history of Hinduism to the invasion of India's indigenous people by lighter skinned Aryans around 1500 BCE. The theory was reinforced by other research over the next 120 years, and became the accepted history of Hinduism, not only in the West but in India.There is now ample evidence to show that Muller, and those who followed him, were wrong.Why is the theory no longer accepted?The Aryan invasion theory was based on archaeological, linguistic and ethnological evidence. Later research has either discredited this evidence, or provided new evidence that combined with the earlier evidence makes other explanations more likely.Modern historians of the area no longer believe that such invasions had such great influence on Indian history. It's now generally accepted that Indian history shows a continuity of progress from the earliest times to today. The changes brought to India by other cultures are not denied by modern historians, but they are no longer thought to be a major ingredient in the development of Hinduism.Dangers of the theoryThe Aryan invasion theory denies the Indian origin of India's predominant culture, but gives the credit for Indian culture to invaders from elsewhere. It even teaches that some of the most revered books of Hindu scripture are not actually Indian, and it devalues India's culture by portraying it as less ancient than it actually is.The theory was not just wrong, it included unacceptably racist ideas:it suggested that Indian culture was not a culture in its own right, but a synthesis of elements from other cultures it implied that Hinduism was not an authentically Indian religion but the result of cultural imperialism it suggested that Indian culture was static, and only changed under outside influences it suggested that the dark-skinned Dravidian people of the South of India had got their faith from light-skinned Aryan invaders it implied that indigenous people were incapable of creatively developing their faith it suggested that indigenous peoples could only acquire new religious and cultural ideas from other races, by invasion or other processes it accepted that race was a biologically based concept (rather than, at least in part, a social construct) that provided a sensible way of ranking people in a hierarchy, which provided a partial basis for the caste system it provided a basis for racism in the Imperial context by suggesting that the peoples of Northern India were descended from invaders from Europe and so racially closer to the British Raj it gave a historical precedent to justify the role and status of the British Raj, who could argue that they were transforming India for the better in the same way that the Aryans had done thousands of years earlier it downgraded the intellectual status of India and its people by giving a falsely late date to elements of Indian science and culture Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. SPONSORED LINKS Bombay india Cause and effect essay Causes of depression Lgbt YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "gay_bombay" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
g_b actors
From: Atul Kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 3:02 PM Subject: TCT139 CASTING CALL The Company Theatre Cutlery Bowl Productions Present William Shakespeare's Much Ado about Nothing To open in February 2006 We are looking for Main Characters: Male: 7 [seven] Female: 5 [five] Male/Female: 4 [four] And Performers: Fire eaters / jugglers, Acrobats, Dancers, Entertainers We also seek a Production Crew: Production assistant, Director's assistant, Production designer, Stage managers, Light and sound designers/ operators Auditions will take place in Mumbai in the form of workshops, with no textual preparation being necessary. Actors asked for recalls will be required to prepare some text for individual work. Please bring recent photographs and resumes to the first audition. Rehearsals are scheduled throughout January, and actors will be required to be available full time throughout this period. Although all funds have not yet been secured, paying actors is a priority and monies will be distributed accordingly. All interested, please contact [THE COMPANY THETARE] at [39400752] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Help save the life of a child. Support St. Jude Children's Research Hospital. http://us.click.yahoo.com/ons1pC/lbOLAA/E2hLAA/WfTolB/TM ~- Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b Indias Slow Descent Into Homophobia
India's Slow Descent Into Homophobia By Amara Das Wilhelm Ancient India's acceptance and accommodation of many forms of eroticism within its culture, including homoeroticism, has been well documented in early Sanskrit writings, art and architecture. This makes modern-day India's sexual puritanism and homophobia, which reached its zenith in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries, all the more astounding. In today's world, India has been relegated to the level of the most backward countries in the sphere of personal liberties, and one might wonder how such a drastic change could ever have come about. Through careful examination, India's long and troubled past reveals a gradual descent into puritanism and homophobia due to caste consciousness and foreign religious influence. The following is a brief timeline that summarizes the history of India and its deteriorating attitude toward people of the third sex. Vedic India Generally assumed to have ended with the dawn of the Kali Yuga age or just over five thousand years ago. At this time, many forms of sexuality are accommodated within India's native culture such as polygamy, prostitution, sexually explicit art, courtesans, etc. Homosexuality is recognized as a separate and third nature (tritiya- prakriti). Third-gender citizens are fully incorporated into society, most notably within the artisan and monastic communities. Post-Vedic India Vedic culture slowly declines over several thousands of years. A strict caste system develops based on birth and body type, causing the social structure to become very rigid. Priests are more ritualistic and less humanistic. They are known as smarta-brahmanas and become extremely arrogant and abusive of the lower classes, declaring them untouchable. Scriptures such as the Manusmriti and other ritualistic texts are corrupted during this time. The ancient Vedic rites are misused, and sacrifices are employed as an excuse for rampant animal slaughter. The Buddhist Period Beginning approximately 500 B.C., Buddhism gradually spreads throughout India. Vedic culture has degraded to such an extent that the population of India eagerly embraces Lord Buddha's teachings of nonviolence and human equality. Buddhist teachings reject the Vedas, and Buddhism itself reaches a peak in India around the time of Christ. The Gupta Period This period begins about A.D. 300. The influence of Buddhism over India gradually wanes and is eventually driven out by Sankaracarya, who reinstates the authority of the Vedas. That authority is later reinforced by other great acaryas such as Ramanuja and Madhva. During this period, a renaissance of India's Vedic philosophy and culture blossoms. Resurgence in the construction of Hindu temples begins around the sixth century, where one invariably finds a multitude of openly erotic images, including many depicting homosexuality. The temples of Khajuraho and Chapri serve as striking examples. The sage Vatsyayana also recompiles the Kama Shastra during this time. Islamic Invasions Begin In the closing years of the tenth century, armed Islamic migrants begin to move into Northern India from regions west of the Hindukush Mountains such as Afghanistan and Persia. This starts an invasion that culminates in the establishment of kingdoms in North India ruled by Muslim overlords. The meeting of Islamic and Hindu cultures is gradual, and each ethnic group flourishes. The construction of Hindu temples climaxes between the twelfth and fourteenth centuries, particularly in Southern India where Islamic influence remains virtually non-existent. Hindu-Muslim Coexistence Originally confined to military centers, Muslim migrants carrying Perso-Turko-Arabic traditions quickly disseminate into large urbanized areas within Northern India. This is further accelerated by a mass migration of scholars, poets and elite administrators from other Islamic kingdoms to the west. These migrants are seeking refuge from the depredations of the Mongols who are ravaging much of Western Asia during this time. Hindus and Muslims coexist peacefully during this period, and there is a great cultural exchange between the two ethnic groups that lasts for centuries. Muslim clerics are free to interpret religious doctrine according to their own discretion and rarely punish homosexuality. On the contrary, it flourishes and is well documented within popular poetry from that time. Muslim migrants also introduce the Middle Eastern practice of castration among homosexual slaves and servants. Domestic slavery existed to a small extent in pre-Islamic India but now becomes an enormously profitable enterprise. Early sultans are heavily dependent on slaves as both soldiers and laborers. Alauddin Khalji (12961316) of the Sultanate of Delhi, for instance, is recorded as owning fifty thousand slaves, and Firuz Shah Tughlaq (13571388) owned 180,000. Of these,
g_b Hinduism and Homosexuality
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g_b SACRIFICE---WHAT DOES IT MEAN ?
courtesy gb = Dear Rashmi, Real Sacrifice is something on which one can write a thesis. But I shall say here what it has come to mean to many people I encounter, especially gay ones who have 'sacrificed' their happiness to please their parents, conform to society, and get married. Sacrifice there is the resort of the coward, who does not have the courage to stand up for his beliefs, nor the honesty to face and acknowledge his own desires, but has ample meanness to cheat another individual in to a loveless marriage. Sacrifice is just a façade to justify, nay glorify, the spinelessness of individuals. Sacrifice is the misnomer given to the lack of guts to really sacrifice ones share of the family property, to sacrifice one's 'good name and reputation', to sacrifice the security of'acceptability', to sacrifice the fight to 'retain the right to equal treatment' no matter what etc etc etc. Net net, don't bother! Why should you when they, who lay claim to being the biggest sacrificers, generally don't give much of a shit either. Its all for show. Aditya Bondyopadhyay Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Give at-risk students the materials they need to succeed at DonorsChoose.org! http://us.click.yahoo.com/Ryu7JD/LpQLAA/E2hLAA/WfTolB/TM ~- Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b GB goes to Dandia
GB goes to Dandia: Date: Saturday 8 October, 2005 Venue:Sankalp, Goregaon Sports Club, Goregaon, Mumbai. Cost: Rs 350 per person. Timings 7 to 10 pm GB Meeting place: Inside the grounds, near the stage. Look for a GB cap. Celebrities Four singers from Fame Gurukul and celebs from the Star Parivar Orchestra Tathaiya Group Last year's star attraction Salman Khan Dandias provided at venue, plenty of food and drinks available. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/X3SVTD/izNLAA/E2hLAA/WfTolB/TM ~- Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b can any one post the time cover story on The Battle Over Gay Teens
hi can any time magazine subscriber post the the time cover story on The Battle Over Gay Teens? since i am not a susbcriber, can any one else do the honours? regards moderator Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Help save the life of a child. Support St. Jude Children's Research Hospital. http://us.click.yahoo.com/ons1pC/lbOLAA/E2hLAA/WfTolB/TM ~- Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b KNOW YOUR LEGAL RIGHTS-GAY SPECIFIC INFORMATION:
courtesy gb = KNOW YOUR RIGHTS GAY SPECIFIC INFORMATION: 1. If you find yourself being interrogated, it is not necessary or advisable to describe your sex life or sex acts that you commit. If someone keeps insisting, respectfully say It is my private business, or suggest that its none of their business. Though some homosexual acts are a crime in India, it is NOT A CRIME TO BE GAY. if the fact of your sexual orientation comes out, it does not make you a criminal in the eyes of the law, even with the presence of Sec 377 I.P.C. I think not knowing this fact is the ESSENCE of the fear and ignorance of gay men that leads to their harassment, blackmail etc., and I cannot overstress this point enough. 2. Also, if someone threatens you with Sec 377, know that you have a VALIANT SOLDIER on your side, called Section 389. Section 389: Offence: Putting a person in fear of accusation of an offence punishable by death, imprisonment for life or imprisonment for 10 years IN ORDER TO COMMIT EXTORTION. Punishment: Imprisonment for 10 years and fine. If the offence is an unnatural offence, the punishment for the extortion attempt is an imprisonment for life! What this means is that if someone threatens to have you arrested under 377 in order to blackmail you or extort money you, you can turn right round and tell him, I will have YOU arrested under section 389 for threatening me with extortion! 3. Will the police call my parents? If you find yourself in trouble and the police threaten to phone/meet your parents, mention that you are an adult and not a minor. Say that you are capable of handling your own affairs, and that they should not be involved. However there is nothing you can legally do to prevent them from contacting your parents in the course of their investigation. But if they are contacting your parents with the sole aim of extorting money from them/scaring you into paying up, then that is a crime. 4. While filing a complaint, giving a false name and address is an offence. It is necessary to give your name and contact information. 5. If they demand to have your mobile phone, wallet or any other object, ask for them to make the demand in writing, take their signed written demand and then hand the phone etc. over. 6. If a policeman says he is going to arrest you, he should be wearing a visible name tag with his id and designation. 7. Respectfully ask for the policeman's id and take down all the details on the ID card and keep them with you. Address the officers as Sir always,however low his rank may be, or however high your social status may be. 8. If you get a blackmailer punished for harassing you, and he gets out on bail, don't worry. A precondition of the bail is that he cannot intimidate you, or else the bail stands cancelled. 9. Anyone can file an FIR, even a friend of yours if you cannot at that moment. Also you cannot be made to run around from one station to another. As mentioned previously the nearest police station has to take the complaint and then forward it to the jurisdiction police station. 10. If you get into trouble on a local train, or the tracks, or the stations - the offence comes under the jurisdiction of the railway police and they have to be contacted. The railway police booth station is usually on the platform and just outside the station, any railways staff or the food stall-wallahs will direct you to it. 11. Do not use obscenities to show that you are not scared. Do not threaten to contact some mythical higher-ups in the police. You will bring out hostility in the cops and make matters worse. 12. Preferably talk in Marathi, as the police force is overwhelmingly Maharashtrian. If you can, take along a respectful friend who speaks good Marathi. 13. If you hire a lawyer, tell them everything about yourself, including your sexual orientation. it will help them to fight the case better. Besides they are obligated to respect your privacy and confidentiality. 14. Don't start with the assumption of corruption and run around trying to bribe everyone. A vast number of police offers are honest and clean. Stand tall and have no fear. You are not in the wrong simply for being gay. 15. Tell your gay friends what's happened to you. Share it with each other and with mailing lists like Gaybombay. It will enable others to help you, support you, as well as will prevent others from having the same problem. It will also enable us to catch the blackmailers and get them punished. 16. Don't tease or deliberately provoke the police or people in public. You can stand on Marine Drive and smooch your boyfriend in broad daylight, but be prepared to face the consequences of your actions, and to stand your ground. 17. Porn CDs: It is an offence to distribute them under Sec 108 of Cr.P.C. and Section 292 of the IPC. Never accept/buy such materials from a stranger. 18. Contact Lawyers Collective or India Center for Human Rights and
g_b what the cards hold for you this week
By Veenu Sandal VIRGO August 24-September 23 -By Veenu Sandal Toying with options will pay you excellent dividends, especially because new indicators pointing towards change are likely to surface. Make intelligent use of them or else, you could lose out on opportunities. Actually, the changes may not be sweeping, but even in their subtlety, they'll certainly spell long term changes in your patterns of thinking and working. Fears that you could be marginalised in the new culture that is increasingly operating at work places will prove to be unfounded and your professional position will become stronger. In fact, you'll use high expectations centered on you as a motivating force to bring a stable new turn to situations which seem to demand a lot. Before long, you're likely to welcome most of these shifts because you'll realise that they afford you a chance to upgrade your skills. In business, stepping up efforts to capitalise on an up-market swing will give you satisfaction. ARIES March 21-April 20 -By Veenu Sandal Identifying slow-moving areas, snags or subconscious mind sets which are slowing you down will yield dividends sooner than you expect. The results you get from this exercise may not be 100 per cent, but you'll still have reason to be satisfied. However, beware of being trapped into commitments where you need to depend on others. Happily, it'll soon become obvious that you're not intimidated by people who use sly tricks. A tip in this context: listen to your inner voice and consult a friend before acting.Your success mantra for this week: I'll try and get rid of irrelevant issues and move forward more briskly and efficiently instead of dawdling at vital moments. In fact, mapping out ways to utilise your ideas and resources cleverly holds the key to holding your own in the manner you want. Remember, being intelligent is one thing, being clever quite another. In business, widening your options would be beneficial. TAURUS April 20-May 21 -By Veenu Sandal Just getting your act together will be a positive development, but curiously, it will not bring you the satisfaction and contentment you need at this stage. Happily, many of you may soon find that you've been recommended for something prestigious or are in the process of shaping something that could be path-breaking. Do try and build up your hidden strengths. Once you do so, new realisations will enable you to formulate effective strategies in the professional sphere and gradually make substantial new beginnings and ensure favourable outcomes. Amongst other benefits, these will enable you to resist attempts to relegate you to the background. In fact, now is your opportunity to make an impression, especially in the manner in which you deal with complex issues. In business, you'll be lucky and will get new leads to not just sort out recent problems, but also add to your profitability. GEMINI May 22-June 21 -By Veenu Sandal Varied, stimulating influences will provide you with special insights to move ahead. Amongst other factors, you'll be inspired by a strong urge to use your potential, the skills and understanding you've acquired recently and make a new mark. Matters which had been put on hold and ideas which had remained on the anvil will move upfront if you reflect on them. You would be wise to assess the prevailing needs and respond on the lines which they seem to suggest. Happily, you'll be able to step up the pace and clear several special tasks you had assigned yourself. Just remember, unless you concentrate on visibility, your efforts could well go down under. And here's a tip: approaching the right people at the right moment will fetch you faster than anticipated results. In business, keeping your ears open may result in your picking up some excellent tips to increase your profits. Try and tap the stock market boom. CANCER June 22-July 22 -By Veenu Sandal Successful handling of diverse issues will make your choices easier, Cancerians. Better still, whatever your decisions, whatever your chosen path or direction, you'll have ample reason to be satisfied. Your major preferences for the time being will be to be different, to use technology to your advantage to achieve something different and get striking results in ventures which have a good safety net. Happily, your position is so strong right now and your style of working so well tailored to relevant needs, that you have little to worry about in terms of being upstaged. Many of you are likely to get unexpected opportunities. And yet, wisely, you'll continue to look for both consolidation and new frontiers, and this will induce you to formulate strategies that will bring you quick results. In business, a good week for discussing market happenings as a prelude to expansion or diversification. LEO July 23-August 23 -By Veenu Sandal The
g_b police accused of shameful gay abuse in the U.S
police accused of shameful gay abuse Eric Johnston, Gay.com/PlanetOut.com Network Friday 23 September, 2005 14:03 | Police mistreatment and abuse of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people is widespread in the United States, according to a report released by Amnesty International (AI) that describes a shameful state of affairs in the relationship between the LGBT community and law enforcement. Stonewalled: Police abuse and misconduct against lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people in the United States is a 150-plus page report that AI called the most comprehensive report of its kind to date. The document focused on four cities -- Chicago, Los Angeles, New York and San Antonio -- but also includes information from surveys of the 50 largest police departments in the country, as well as hundreds of interviews and testimonies. Quite simply, Amnesty International's new report finds that police abuse and misconduct against members of the LGBT community is a persistent and widespread problem across the United States, said Dr William F. Schulz, executive director of Amnesty International USA. The allegations against some law enforcement officers range from unfair searches and detentions, to verbal abuse, to violent physical and sexual abuse, including abuses that are tantamount to torture, according to Schulz. The report gives several detailed and graphic examples. In one case, Frederick Mason, 31, a gay African-American man who was arrested by Chicago police following an altercation with his landlord, alleged that officers handcuffed and raped him with a baton that had been dipped in cleaning fluid. In another, police officers allegedly beat, hog-tied and dragged Kelly McAllister, a white transgender woman, across hot pavement upon her arrest in Sacramento, California. She was placed in a Sacramento County Main Jail cell with a male inmate who struck, choked, bit and raped her. That inmate received a mere three-month sentence, while no officer was been disciplined for the incidents surrounding Kelly's incarceration. According to the report, transgender people, ethnic minorities and youth are the most likely to suffer mistreatment. The study also indicates incidents go largely unchecked because of underreporting and unclear, under-enforced or nonexistent policies and procedures. The AI report did point out some initiatives taken by several police departments to improve their practices. For instance, the city of West Hollywood, California established a Transgender Task Force to address policing issues. Washington DC created a Gay and Lesbian Liaison Unit staffed by four full-time officers and 10 volunteers. Two-thirds of police departments reported providing training on hate crimes against LGBT individuals. But while most departments offer training on sexual assault (86 percent), only about half (52 percent) include LGBT-specific issues. The report concluded that despite some positive initiatives, police departments nationwide needed to do more to protect LGBT people, specifically by increasing training and accountability. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/X3SVTD/izNLAA/E2hLAA/WfTolB/TM ~- Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b Iranian gay activists call for action
Iranian gay activists call for action Gay.com UK Tuesday 20 September, 2005 13:49 Gay activists within Iran are calling for more support from the international community, warning that the country is condoning the persecution and abuse of lesbians and gay men. In a press release issued to GAY.COM, the Persian Gays Lesbians Organisation (PGLO) said they are seeing examples of gay men being targeted by authorities because of their sexuality. The call for help comes just a month after activists accused the Iranian government of executing two teenagers for having sex with each other. In a case that sparked international protests, the boys were pictured being carried to the gallows and hung for their actions. In a response to the outcry, Iran said the executions were also because the boys had raped a younger boy; claims that have been denied by campaigners within the country. They warned that false charges were often drawn up in a bid to deflect international condemnation. PGLO says its more recent case has seen a 22 year old man repeatedly flogged because of his sexuality. Amir, has, it claims, been arrested and put in custody by police, fundamentalist militia and the revolutionary guard. Additionally, the group says the police are using internet chat rooms to entrap gay men and arrest them. Amir was sentenced to 100 lashes for being gay, they say, and has now escaped the country to an undisclosed location. Iranian homosexuals are usually subjected to extreme oppression and sometimes they are killed, the PLGO said in its release. Only small fraction of this violent homophobia comes to light. The largest part is hidden behind a curtain of fear. Many persecutions get mixed up with false accusations of crimes like rape, so that the real reasons are disguised. The Persian Gays and Lesbians Organisation asks all human rights activists and GLBT defenders to protest against homophobic attitudes and crimes in Iran. Let's work together to prevent such oppression and injustice. UK-based Outrage, which helped organise the international protests last month, said British activists should challenge the situation in Iran. It says too many people in the UK are failing to respond to the reports of homophobia. We deplore the gullibility of many gay, left and human rights groups concerning the abuse of LGBT human rights in Iran, Brett Lock said today. Too many are willing to believe the smears and slurs of the Iranian government and state-approved newspapers like Qods. Where are the left-wing campaigns in western countries to support the freedom struggles of Iranian LGBTs, women, democrats, socialists and workers? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Help save the life of a child. Support St. Jude Children's Research Hospital. http://us.click.yahoo.com/ons1pC/lbOLAA/E2hLAA/WfTolB/TM ~- Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b GAY, AIDS DISCRIMINATION IN KATRINAS WAKE
GAY, AIDS DISCRIMINATION IN KATRINA'S WAKE http://www.gaycitynews.com/gcn_437/gayaidsdiscriminationin.html As awful as the dislocation caused by Hurricane Katrina and government neglect in the aftermath has been for millions of people, survivors who are lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgendered or who have HIV/AIDS are facing the added stress of prejudice, some of it enshrined in law. Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama, hardest hit by Katrina, have constitutional bans on recognizing same-sex relationships and the U.S. government has a Defense of Marriage Act, all making it virtually impossible for surviving gay partners to be accorded any validity by government relief agencies. In Texas, Arpollo Vicks, a transgendered woman, was arrested in an evacuation shelter at Texas A M in Bryan on September 4 simply for taking a shower. She was held for fives days at the Brazos County Detention Center. Advocates were able to get the school to drop charges and she was released. The National Center for Transgender Equality is working with the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force and Lambda Legal Defense on a guide for making evacuation shelters safe and welcoming for people of transgender experience. About 8,000 people with HIV/AIDS have been displaced by Katrina and the flood, the Associated Press reported. The New Orleans AIDS Task Force is now working out of the Montrose Clinic in Houston, a facility that serves the LGBT community in that city's leading gay neighborhood. In some shelters, such as the Houston Astrodome, people with HIV are being referred to other clinics to pick up a month's supply of medications. Lambda has established a national toll-free hotline number866-542- 8336for survivors who experience discrimination based on sexual orientation, gender identity, or HIV/AIDS status. Tragedy does not discriminate and neither should relief agencies, said Lambda's executive director, Kevin Cathcart. Lambda, working with other advocacy groups, made some strides in changing policies at relief agencies and state governments in the wake of the 9/11 catastrophe four years ago, but that was in the more liberal Northeast. Lambda is asking gay and lesbian centers near the areas affected by Katrina to distribute their flier outlining forms of discrimination that may be faced by LGBT survivors as well as those living with HIV in these extreme circumstances, including mistreatment at shelters, denial of HIV medication or care, denial of services based on status or partnership, demands that they provide documents to prove their relationship when non-gay people are not, discrimination based on religious prejudice against gay people or those with HIV, mistreatment in foster care, and denial of the right to handle the affairs of a deceased loved one. CNN reported that gay people seeking to locate their domestic partners are being turned away by both local aid organizations and federal relief, and that FEMA is citing DOMA as the reason. In the presence of Texas Governor Rick Perry this week, the Rev. Dwight McKissick, a Baptist minister, said Katrina was sent to purify our nation. He added, This may have nothing to do with God being offended by homosexuality. But it possibly does. The Austin American Statesman reported that Perry, who heard the minister make the remarks at two events, didn't object. His spokesperson said the governor, himself the object of widespread rumor online of being a closeted homosexual, sure doesn't do public critiques of what every speaker says. Rev. Fred Phelps of God Hates Fags Ministries in Topeka, Kansas, said, Thank God for Katrina. New Orleans, symbol of America, seen for what it isa putrid, toxic, stinking cesspool of fag fecal matter. New York gay activist Tom Smith offered an alternative religious explanation, perhaps in facetious response to Perry, McKissick, and Phelps. It is clear that all the states hit by Katrina have passed anti-gay marriage bills and are unwelcoming to strangers, he said. Clearly God doesn't like homophobia. Andy Humm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Help save the life of a child. Support St. Jude Children's Research Hospital. http://us.click.yahoo.com/ons1pC/lbOLAA/E2hLAA/WfTolB/TM ~- Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at
g_b India's secretive gays stepping out of closet
FEATURE - India's secretive gays stepping out of closet Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:20 AM ISTBy Krittivas Mukherjee KOLKATA, India (Reuters) - Under the glare of twirling blue and red strobe lights, two lithe Indian men dance to the beat of a hip-hop number at a disco in the heart of Kolkata. Nearby, other men snuggle in dark, smoke-filled corners -- some hugging and kissing, others sharing drinks. In this rare gathering place for Indian homosexuals, there are no women. This is the coolest place in town where we guys can relax with our partners after a hard day's work, Achinta Vaidya, a middle-aged businessman, told Reuters. Here we don't have to worry about society and its moral custodians, Vaidya said, sitting next to his male partner. Elsewhere in Kolkata, formerly called Calcutta, there are dimly-lit cafes where only women go. India's gay community is trying to lift the veil of secrecy in a country where public hugging or kissing invites angry stares and even lewd comments. Gays are seen more openly in discos and pubs in big cities, gently pushing the envelope of what is acceptable in public. In big cities like Mumbai, a handful of gay and lesbian clubs have sprung up but membership is based on recommendation. In the past year, three Indian lesbian couples hit the headlines as they struggled to stay together despite pressure from society and their families. TOUGH LEGAL BATTLE It isn't easy for India's gay community to come out of the closet. For one, the legal system is stacked against homosexuals: a law enacted in 1861 by British colonial rulers makes homosexuality a crime. We are seeking to decriminalise homosexuality, said Anjali Gopalan, spokeswoman for Naaz Foundation, a health group fighting for gay rights, which has challenged the law in India's top court. The state can't interfere on the question of two consenting adults' sexual preferences. In April, the Supreme Court asked the federal government to explain why the law banning homosexuality should not be repealed. The law -- often misused by police looking for a quick bribe from men whom they catch cosying up in parks or lanes -- makes homosexuality an offence, punishable by up to 10 years in prison. Dozens of gay men are arrested each year on charges of homosexuality, but most are acquitted because of lack of evidence. There is increasing awareness now that homosexuality is undeniable, New Delhi-based Gopalan told Reuters. The government opposes Naaz Foundation's plea, saying it wants to keep homosexuality a crime to preserve a healthy, moral environment in society. The case comes up later this month. But gay and lesbian support groups are using a new argument, saying the need for making homosexuality legal was not just a social question, but directly affects the fight against AIDS. FIGHTING AIDS In India, there are an estimated 45-50 million homosexuals who gay groups say are at risk of contracting AIDS. They say gay couples hesitate to seek information about AIDS or get medical help if they feel they are infected with the HIV virus because homosexuality is a crime. Unless sexuality is recorded, there's no way that AIDS can be countered, said Ashok Row Kavi, a Mumbai-based playwright and one of India's leading gay rights activists. Health officials are taking note, and even though homosexuality is banned, some government-aided AIDS campaigns are run through groups which promote gay and lesbian rights. There is a smokescreen behind which these gay groups have to operate their HIV/AIDS intervention programmes, said Kavi, whose Humsafar Trust was the first such group to receive government funds. India's state-run National AIDS Control Organisation (NACO) is trying to push for change from within the establishment. It's a huge paradox that the government recognises MSM (men having sex with men) groups as a vital link in the fight against AIDS but will not make homosexuality legal, NACO chief S.Y. Quraishi told Reuters. India has 5.1 million people living with HIV/AIDS, around the same as South Africa which has the world's highest number, and most HIV transmission is through the heterosexual sex route. In Kolkata, gay groups have come together and are promoting gay rights by holding a colourful parade each year and organising film festivals, all under the watchful eyes of the police. Homosexuality (in India) is a grey area. Society doesn't want to discuss it, said Sanjeev Mitra, a gay rights activist. But the time has come to break this status quo. © Reuters 2005. All Rights Reserved. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/X3SVTD/izNLAA/E2hLAA/WfTolB/TM ~- Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo!
g_b Best Photographs of 2005
Best Photographs of 2005 http://www.avolites.org.uk/jokes/photos05.htm You have to see this! No words can do it justice. American Museum of Photography (SM) -- View Great Photographs Online -- History of Photography Exhibits http://www.photography-museum.com/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Give at-risk students the materials they need to succeed at DonorsChoose.org! http://us.click.yahoo.com/Ryu7JD/LpQLAA/E2hLAA/WfTolB/TM ~- Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b The GayBombay Film Festival on Sunday 11 September 2005!
courtesy gb __ The GayBombay Film Festival on Sunday 11 September 2005! Time: 01.30 PM onwards. Venue: Conference Room, (Ground floor, side entrance), National College, Linking Road, Bandra West, Mumbai 400 050. Directions: National College is a 10 minute walk from Bandra station (West) and a minimum rickshaw fare ride. It is almost at the beginning of Linking Road on the right; the entrance to the Conference Room is from the side entrance in the lane opposite Barista. Contribution : Entry is free. The event is entirely sponsored by GayBombay. However individual voluntary contributions are welcome. PROGRAM: 2.00 PM: Regular Guys Directed by Rolf Silber; 1996; 1 hour 42 minutes. Synopsis: Macho detective Christoph (Christoph M. Ort) is dumped by his fiancée, gets drunk, and wakes up in bed with Edgar (Tim Bergmann), a gay car thief. Though he's not sure what transpired, he needs a place to stay, so he moves in with Edgar. Christoph makes it known to his new roommate that he is straight, but Edgar is relentless in his advances. Christoph's new home life also proves to give the wrong idea to everyone around him but he still manages to embark on a budding romance with Helen, his pretty coworker. This unusual German production deftly combines the romantic comedy and crime genres to an audience-pleasing end. (Courtesy: www.rottentomatoes.com). 4.00 - 4.15 PM: Tea Break. 4.15 PM: Middle Sex (Documentary) Produced by Channel Four, U.K.; 2005. This is an excellent, thought provoking and award winning documentary which explores the full spectrum of gender diversity. It examines case studies, from all over the world including Thailand, U.S.A. and India, and is interspersed with scientific research. 5.30 - 6.00 PM: Tea Samosa Break. 6.00 PM: Cowboys Angels Directed by David Gleason; 2004; 1 hour 32 minutes. Synopsis: Shane Butler (Michael Legge) is a handsome but geeky 20 year old who feels that life is passing him by. A talented artist who longs to go to art school, he spends his days stuck in a horrible job behind a desk in the civil service. When he moves into an apartment in Limerick City with Vincent Cusack (Allen Leech), a gay fashion student, things begin to look up. Despite being polar opposites on almost every level, Shane and Vincent soon become close friends. Vincent's artistry, evident in everything he puts his hand to, inspires Shane to greatness. When he meets and falls in love with Gemma (Amy Shiels), an ex-art student and best friend of Vincent's who now works in a fast food joint, he feels compelled to make some radical changes to his life. (Courtesy: www.rottentomatoes.com). PLEASE BEAR WITH US! To have people walking in and out during screenings is a big nuisance. Though guys coming slightly late can be condoned, the bane of the festivals is the constant traffic of guys running in and out to answer cell phones, quite unconcerned with the disturbance they are causing. We request people to PLEASE SWITCH OFF their CELL phones during the screenings. Anyone who walks out during the screening will not be allowed inside, until the next break. DOORS WILL BE LOCKED ONCE A FILM BEGINS! NOTE : 1. The films are excellent original copies on DVD VHS. 2. The films are NOT pornographic. Only good, clean gay films. 3. GB as a support group, has created this comfort space/event for gays, many of whom may be newbies (those still coming to terms with their sexuality and who have mustered courage to come for such a meeting for the first time). So we request you to be sensitive to the comfort levels of others attending this event and behave and dress accordingly. 4. You have to be above 18 to participate in this event. This event is organized by: http://www.gaybombay.org Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Give at-risk students the materials they need to succeed at DonorsChoose.org! http://us.click.yahoo.com/Ryu7JD/LpQLAA/E2hLAA/WfTolB/TM ~- Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the
g_b Gay characters dying off on TV
Gay characters dying off on TV Larry Buhl, PlanetOut Network Thursday 1 September, 2005 13:12 | US TV has long dominated British screens, and along with it the slew of gay characters from shows such as Queer Eye and Will and Grace. But a new study points to a loss of gay characters from America's big shows. And as the six major US broadcast networks unveil their autumn schedules new offerings still aren't as diverse they should be, according to an analysis conducted by the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD). Out of 710 series regulars that will appear over the next few months, gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender characters make up less than 2 percent, GLAAD Entertainment Media Director Damon Romine told the GAY.COM/PlanetOut Network. This is a shocking misrepresentation of reality and of the audience watching these programs, he said. Even skimpier are representations of lesbians or LGBT characters form ethnic minorities, the study concluded. Of the 16 'series regular' and recurring LGBT roles, 13 are male, and three are female, with one character each representing African Americans, Latinos and Asian Pacific groups. TV is a reflection of reality, Romnie continued. When gay characters are on TV it sends a signal to America that we are part of the fabric of everyday life. We are everywhere and we should be represented. Romine also criticised shows like CSI which feature gay 'crime of the week' stories but no gay series regulars. What message does it send to the audience when the only gay people on the show are either murderers or victims? But Richard Kravitz, creator of TVgayguide.com, suggested that other factors should be considered beyond characters on prime-time fictional shows. GLAAD didn't take into account reality shows with gay contestants or hosts, such as Extreme Makeover-Home Edition, and I don't think they mention Queer Eye or contestants on Survivor, Kravitz told the GAY.COM/PlanetOut Network. Kravitz continued that there is a significant and encouraging trend of openly gay actors doing straight roles on TV something that was relatively rare just a few years ago. But Kravitz does see a disturbing trend on the horizon, with the dearth of gay-themed shows since Queer as Folk is gone, and 8-year-old Will and Grace is on the way out. The only show left is The L Word, he said. There is nothing left to replace these shows and that's disturbing. I hope the networks aren't again being afraid of LGBT-themed shows. The brightest spot for LGBT characters is cable TV, the GLAAD study showed. And, not surprisingly, the best variety of representations are on the three gay cable networks, Logo, Q and here! According to Stephen Macias, a representative from here!, the channel's goal is to have fully fleshed-out LGBT characters in its acquisitions and original programming. Those characters are husbands and wives, detectives and students, heroes and villains, he told GAY.COM/PlanetOut. In other words we are after an authentic and accurate portrait of gay and lesbian Americans. While committed to LGBT portrayals, here! and the other gay networks are still finding their footing in the US. Logo was launched only two months ago, here! is a premium (pay) channel, and Q's distribution is still relatively small. These three may have a bigger impact on the overall TV landscape over time. Until then the bulk of viewers still get ideas of gay life from shows on the big six networks. In the UK, the only gay channel Faze TV is not set to launch until later this year. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a difference. Find and fund world-changing projects at GlobalGiving. http://us.click.yahoo.com/j2WM0C/PbOLAA/E2hLAA/WfTolB/TM ~- Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b Canada concedes that gay affair counts as adultery
Canada concedes that gay affair counts as adultery Tue Aug 30, 2005 11:21 PM BST VANCOUVER, British Columbia (Reuters) - A Canadian woman won a divorce on Tuesday after a Vancouver court conceded that her husband's affair with another man did in fact amount to adultery. In the first case of its kind in the country, the British Columbia Supreme Court granted a woman it named only as Ms P. an immediate divorce from her husband of 17 years after he admitted to having an affair with a younger man. In February Justice Nicole Garson had declined to grant the divorce, arguing that the common law definition of adultery does not include homosexual relations. But Garson told the woman that she would hear the case again if a lawyer would argue why the legal definition of adultery should include extra-marital same-sex relations. Because of a court order, the woman cannot be named. We argued that the historic definition of adultery, which is limited to sex between a spouse and someone of the opposite gender, was anachronistic in light of changes to the Marriage Act and changes to the understanding of same sex marriage and divorce, said Ms P.'s lawyer, Barbara Findlay. Canada is one of a handful of countries that has legalised gay marriage, acting in response to court rulings that said a ban amounted to discrimination against gays and lesbians. The country has much looser residence requirements than many other jurisdictions that allow gays to marry, and cities like Vancouver and Toronto have become centres for gay marriage, especially for Americans. The Canadian marriage certificates may not be recognised in the couples' home countries. Ms P., a 44-year-old Vancouver resident, filed for divorce in December 2004 after discovering the affair. Her ex-husband acknowledged the extra-marital relationship in January. Canadian law allows for an immediate divorce if one side admits adultery. A no-fault divorce is possible after a one-year separation because the marriage has broken down. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a difference. Find and fund world-changing projects at GlobalGiving. http://us.click.yahoo.com/j2WM0C/PbOLAA/E2hLAA/WfTolB/TM ~- Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b friend/mates wanted for September 1
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g_b friend/mates wanted for August 30
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g_b Letters in today's Indian Express on Gay like Us Article
http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=77192 Letters in today's Indian Express on Gay like Us Article Capturing Us Posted online: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 at hours IST I commend a beautifully articulated piece by Farah Baria (`Gay like Us', IE, August 26). Her views are precisely the ones I have come to hold as a 71-year-old gay man, although I seriously doubt I could have stated them as succinctly as she has. She have done all homosexual people worldwide a distinct service, and delivered an effective blow toward dismantling the widespread net of bigotry that continues to strangle and oppress gay people in India, and elsewhere. Not long after I became an adult, I outed myself one step at a time, in conversations, lectures, articles, books (authored by others), and then on the internet. Like your protagonist, being completely out has liberated and strengthened me enormously, regardless of the fact that I am a rather masculine fellow who is routinely assumed to be straight by first-time acquaintances, until I verbally confront their misassumption. Because I am totally out, I suffer absolutely no overt discrimination from family members and working colleagues. I have a completely enjoyable and successful life and wouldn't exchange it for any other. I feel special and very fortunate to have have been born gay. Rustam Kothavala On e-mail As a gay Indian, I would like to thank the writer with all my heart for her excellent, to-the-point, unapologetic and forceful article. This is probably the first time I have seen such a powerfully favourable opinion piece in the mainstream Indian media on gay rights. Kudos! Mitul Parekh On e-mail Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Give at-risk students the materials they need to succeed at DonorsChoose.org! http://us.click.yahoo.com/Ryu7JD/LpQLAA/E2hLAA/WfTolB/TM ~- Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b friends/mates wanted for August 27
From: surendra [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Goa Anyone Hi group I'm from bangalore, shall be in Goa on 26th/27th. Looking forward to meet some friends there. Thanks Esskay 2) From: james bond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri Aug 26, 2005 5:22pm Subject: hi hi this an 19yr old ,6ft 32w swimmer's body from mumbai nice,decent ...looking for relationshipif interested please contact me 3) From: sabu T [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri Aug 26, 2005 8:35pm Subject: from toronto hi i am looking asians around toronto. 36 yrs 5 '9 150 lbs dark color pls mail me if u r interested Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/X3SVTD/izNLAA/E2hLAA/WfTolB/TM ~- Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b Phone nos of Mah Govt officials NGOs for flood relief
Subject: Phone nos of Mah Govt officials NGOs for flood relief Given below are phone nos. obtained from Mantralaya of the civic officials and NGOs who have been given the responsibility by the Maharashtra Government for distribution of FREE foodgrains (10 Kgs. Rice, 10 Kgs Wheat, 10 Litres of Kerosene) or cooked food to families from bastis that were badly affected by the deluge. Those in Mumbai are urged to contact the civic officials NGOs for distribution of the relief material in your area. Civic officials: NAME PHONE NO. Shri Bhoi 'A' Ward 24934427 (Off.) 9892009993 (Mob) Shri Zavre 'S' Ward 26844103 (Off.) 9819165043 (Mob) Shri Madne 'M' Ward 28071154 (Off) 9820835171 (Mob) Shri Paril 'E' Ward 24125495 (Off) 9869425100 (Mob) Shri Suryavanshi 'F' Ward25332657 9867383846 Shri Pawar 'A' Ward 22820885 9869156526 (Mob) Shri Thite 22820885 9819717654 (Mob) NGOs: (1) Rashtriya Sadbhavana Manch Area :- Kurla, Malad, Goregaon Reception point - Musafir Khana Contact Person :- Kuber Maurya Tel :- 9821268052 , 56868152 (2) TISS Area :- Chembur, Mankhurd Reception point :- TISS Chembur Contact Person :- Dr. Parsuraman Director TISS Tel :- 25563289 , 25560108 (3) Nirmala Niketan Area :- Juhu, Borivali, Nehrunagar Reception point :- Nirmala Niketan, College Rd., Marine Lines. Contact Person :- Mrs. Farida Lambay Vice Principal (Ph. 9820133553) (4) Art of Living Area :- Kalina, Kurla, Dharavi Reception point :- Sujata Apartment Manpada, Kalina Contact Person :- Ms Ghamolkar, Ms Bagga Tel :- 9867326605 , 98209-- (5) Central Co-ordinator Relief Committee Area :- Kansa, Mumbra Reception point :- Musafir Khana Contact Person :- Dr. MKE Member - 9821274710 , 22044385 , 9821112081 (6) Rashtriya Yuva Sangathana Area :- Kandivali Reception point :- Contact Person :- Ms Smita Shah Ph:- 9322517167 , 56378612 (7) PWD Kamgar Wasahat Sangh Area :- Worli, Kurla, Prabhadevi, Delisle Rd. Reception point :- Worli BDD Chawl No. 10 Contact Person :- Arvind Bhisali Ph :- 9821581860 (8) Abhiyan Area :- Vile Parle, Santacruz Reception point :- Contact Person :- Amarjit Mishra Ph:- 9820550923 , 26824359 , 9869343460 (9) Deal Relief Committee Area :- Kalyan Reception point :- Musafir Khana (10) Sahyogi Sanstha Area :- Thane Contact point :- Prem Shi Ph :- 987043 (11) Samata Vichar Pratishthan Area :- Kherwadi, Navi Mumbai Contact Person :- Bhupendra Dayme Ph :- 9322646639 Reception print :- Kherwadi (12) SN Helpline Area :- Andheri, Golibar etc. Contact Person :- Ajit Surve Ph :- 26845656 Reception print :- Omkar Hsg. Society, Koldongri Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- font face=arial size=-1a href=http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hqk72ed/M=323294.6903899.7846637.3022212/D=groups/S=1705064406:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1124742984/A=2896130/R=0/SIG=11llkm9tk/*http://www.donorschoose.org/index.php?lc=yahooemail;Give underprivileged students the materials they need to learn. Bring education to life by funding a specific classroom project /a./font ~- Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b Seven Indian AIDS Drugs Reinstated
courtesy aids-india - Seven Indian AIDS Drugs Reinstated The Associated Press: Friday, August 19, 2005; 7:50 PM GENEVA -- The U.N. health agency said Friday it has reinstated seven Indian-made generic drugs to its list of approved HIV/AIDS medicines for use in developing countries after the manufacturer was able to prove they were the same as the patented versions. The World Health Organization removed three of the drugs _ made by Ranbaxy Laboratories Ltd. _ from its list of generic AIDS medicines recommended for use in developing countries in August 2004. A random check had found that tests failed to prove that the medicines were biologically the same as the patented drugs. Ranbaxy later withdrew the other four drugs, saying it was uncertain they were biologically the same as the patented drugs. But the company has now submitted data from new tests that proves that the drugs are equivalent to their patented counterparts, WHO said. Subsequently, WHO ran the full range of quality, safety and efficacy checks on the medicines as well as thorough inspections of the new laboratories, the health agency said in a statement. The products and laboratories were all found to be satisfactory. Two of the drugs contain a combination of lamivudine and stavudine in different strengths; another two are combinations of lamivudine, stavudine and nevirapine; one is lamivudine; one is zidovudine; and the seventh is a combination of lamivudine and zidovudine. WHO also said it has added three new antiretroviral medicines, made by India's Aurobindo Pharma Ltd., to its approved list. Two of these are lamivudine tablets in different strengths and the third is zidovudine. The addition of 10 medicines will benefit existing AIDS programs and procurement schemes, WHO said. About 6.5 million people in low and middle income countries are in need of antiretroviral treatment, according to the health agency. In a push to expand treatment, WHO is aiming to put 3 million people in the developing world on HIV drugs by 2005. About 40 million people worldwide are infected with the AIDS virus and 5 million new infections are recorded every year. Sub-Saharan Africa is the worst hit, but the epidemic is now pushing deep into Asia. Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp- dyn/content/article/2005/08/19/AR2005081900452.html _ Chritsy [EMAIL PROTECTED] The following is the list of seven Ranbaxy Anti Retroviral formulations are now pre-qualified by WHO. The products pre- qualified are: - Lamivudine 150mg+Nevirapine 200mg+Stavudine 40mg tablets - Lamivudine 150mg+Nevirapine 200mg+Stavudine 30mg tablets - Lamivudine 150mg+Stavudine 40mg tablets - Lamivudine 150mg+Stavudine 30mg tablets - Lamivudine 150mg+Zidovudine 300mg tablets - Lamivudine 150mg tablets, and - Zidovudine 300mg tablets Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- font face=arial size=-1a href=http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hvjrarj/M=362329.6886307.7839373.3022212/D=groups/S=1705064406:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1124742986/A=2894324/R=0/SIG=11hia266k/*http://www.youthnoise.com/page.php?page_id=1998;1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery/a./font ~- Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b Vacancies at Lawyers Collective HIV/AIDS Unit
Vacancies at Lawyers Collective HIV/AIDS Unit LAWYERS Collective HIV/AIDS Unit Project Office (PO), Delhi is seeking personnel for the following posts: LEGAL OFFICER: Law graduate, in-depth knowledge legal, medical, ethical,social issues arising out of the HIV/AIDS epidemic in India. Sensitivity to a broad range of issues arising out of the HIV/AIDS epidemic 2 years work experience in legal practice in the courts on public interest issues/ HIV/AIDS. Experience should indicate competency in project management and the NGO sector in India - Computer literacy essential Fluency in English and Hindi and local language. NO. OF POSTS 1 ADVOCACY OFFICER: Degree in Law Knowledge sensitivity to broad range of issues arising out of the HIV/ AIDS epidemic in India with particular emphasis on legal ethical issues. Good communication facilitation on skills Experience with NGOs public interest issues Willing to do field work with affected communities Comprehensive computer literacy essential. Fluency communication skills in English, Hindi any other local language. NO. OF POSTS - 2 Both positions are based in Delhi. Applicants are required to send their CV with at least 2 references by 2nd September 2005 to the following address by post, fax or e-mail. Anand Grover, Project Director, 63/2, Masjid Road, Jungpura, New Delhi-110 014 Fax: 011 2432 2236 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Tripti Tandon Lawyers Collective HIV/AIDS Unit 63/2, 1st Floor, Masjid Road, Jangpura, New Delhi - 110 014 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- font face=arial size=-1a href=http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12h7024rf/M=320369.6903865.7846595.3022212/D=groups/S=1705064406:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1124743008/A=2896110/R=0/SIG=1107idj9u/*http://www.thanksandgiving.com Help save the life of a child. Support St. Jude Children¿s Research Hospital/a./font ~- Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b Swedish library 'lends' out gays, minorities
Swedish library 'lends' out gays, minorities Gay.com U.K. published Wednesday, August 17, 2005 This summer a Swedish library is offering to lend out representatives of minority groups, including lesbian and gay people, in a bid to tackle prejudice and discrimination. The real-life lending system will also include religious leaders and members of ethnic minorities, in a bid to help minorities and local people mix. Organized by Malmo Library, those taking part in the scheme will be able to take their lent representatives outside for a 45-minute conversation about their beliefs, culture and way of life. A spokesperson for the library told the AFP news agency that the idea is to challenge preconceived ideas about people. Ulla Brohed said the majority of people's prejudices come from being just uninformed. A gay person, an imam, a journalist and a Gypsy will take part in the first stages of the project. If the program is a success, it will be repeated in the future. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- font face=arial size=-1a href=http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hb6mcfr/M=323294.6903899.7846637.3022212/D=groups/S=1705064406:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1124659117/A=2896130/R=0/SIG=11llkm9tk/*http://www.donorschoose.org/index.php?lc=yahooemail;Give underprivileged students the materials they need to learn. Bring education to life by funding a specific classroom project /a./font ~- Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b friends/mates wanted for August 22
From: Shurta [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun Aug 21, 2005 0:14am Subject: Lahore Guy looking for monogamous relationship \ \ i am looking for monogamous relationship, for life. Just like straight couples, lastnig for life. i am 21 from Lahore, Pakistan. 2) From: batista_ajay29 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun Aug 21, 2005 1:21am Subject: mumbai i am in bombay.i need someone. 3) From: Vijay singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun Aug 21, 2005 5:12am Subject: delhi hi raj, i m vijay singh from delhi, 25/m/athelitic,decent,30w/6ft/75kg/whitish/handsome/top wanna hav chat. bye 4) Akash Bhardwaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun Aug 21, 2005 1:27pm Subject: for friendship, fun n relation bombay guy looking for THIN Bo-TTm appx 5' 7 - 50 kg soft, submissive, loving any skin colour for FRIENDSHIP n FUN also want travel companion i m akash --- M 34 , TOP , thin, slim, 5' 8 , 54 kg, -- wheatish, simple, caring plz e-mail me personally at : --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- font face=arial size=-1a href=http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hf3s92i/M=362343.6886681.7839642.3022212/D=groups/S=1705064406:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1124659334/A=2894352/R=0/SIG=11fdoufgv/*http://www.globalgiving.com/cb/cidi/tsun.html;Help tsunami villages rebuild at GlobalGiving. The real work starts now/a./font ~- Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b friends/mates wanted for August 21
1)From: Ira S [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat Aug 20, 2005 9:53am Subject: Mumbai Hi i m m/24/5'6/64kg/32waist/ i m working near Goregaon, Mumbai reply with indetail if int Ira 2) From: Dev Vasu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat Aug 20, 2005 11:21am Subject: pune/delhi Hi Raju, I am Vasu, Pune, 40, chubby andsingle. Being a chubby bottom AM WORKING AS A FREEE LANCE TRAVEL AGENT. wOULD U BE INTERESTED? u CAN REPLY PN [EMAIL PROTECTED] OR SMS ME ON 0209371051592 LOVE N LOTS MORE 3) From: parth_earth2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat Aug 20, 2005 11:48am Subject: Lets play a game we both win... Heres a little about meMail back if it blends with your thoughts... Me : 23, 5'10,67kgs,32w,Fair Lots more Lovable Loving Honest but stubborn A True TAUREAN .but LonelyAt the moment my companion is ME and my work but seeking better .. My Life: Life for me has never been holding good cards but yes I have played well the ones I had . True love for me has been like a GHOST .Always heard but never seen .Have been hounded by the same by what I thought was a RELATION for more then a year only to realize it was a nightmare Have seen the DARKER side of love .Venturing to see the BRIGHTER side now ..To see the Nightmare turning into a DREAM Want to Live this DREAM My Wish: I don't wish to be everything to everyone but I wish to be something to someone A friend to share my thoughts to discuss my work A soul mate to hear words which I don't utter A door which would open for me before I knock I don't want roses on valentines day I am looking for someone to help me while we walk together over the thorny lanes of life. 4) M2M Pune [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat Aug 20, 2005 3:43pm Subject: hi from PUNE talk_tome_priyo Offline Send Message Edit Membership Hi, I am 32 years old, working in PUNE India. Now I am online at yahoo. My ID is [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Any one like me want to chat, then come to online and contact above mentioned ID. Well. My status is 168 cms, 68 kgs, Fair, slim, 32 waist expected cute and slim, those who are below 35. -- Cheers... Rahul Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- font face=arial size=-1a href=http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hs3lgpc/M=362343.6886681.7839642.3022212/D=groups/S=1705064406:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1124569981/A=2894354/R=0/SIG=11qvf79s7/*http://http://www.globalgiving.com/cb/cidi/c_darfur.html;Help Sudanese refugees rebuild their lives through GlobalGiving/a./font ~- Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b friends/mates wanted for August 19
1) From: a j [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:16pm Subject: are you looking for me(mumbai/pune) hi .. im ajay 23 yrs old . i live and work in pune(fc road) since last 2 yrs. however i am from mumbai ghatkoper. i am a software engineer. i love reading and movies. i am an introvert and usually avoid social meetings but i like to be friends and know more and more people. i am slim hairy not good looking or macho but not repulsive. i like decent people who respect each other and appreciate their feelings. i am open for any sort of friendship not just a physical one. i would appreciate if people looking for cheap thrills(read one night stand) dont reply. if my profile suits you add me to yahoo messenger(aaronjew2001@ yahoo.com) or mail me at the same. we can gradually exchange numbers and pics if we click. 2) From: prem verma [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:28pm Subject: Mangalore/Mumbai Hi, I am prem I am new to this and want to know more about this, write now I am at Manglore, basically I am from Mumbai. any one from Manglore who can share his evening with me in a decent way are welcome I am going back to mumbai on saturday, One thing I am sure that person who contact me should be between 20 to 30 years, ready share his thought and he should be understanding in nature, well I am 25years old good looking 5, i11, 65 kg 32 w. any one from this group at manglore can write to me, prem1234_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] prem. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- font face=arial size=-1a href=http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hrmm9u6/M=320369.6903865.7846595.3022212/D=groups/S=1705064406:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1124398091/A=2896110/R=0/SIG=1107idj9u/*http://www.thanksandgiving.com Help save the life of a child. Support St. Jude Children¿s Research Hospital/a./font ~- Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b India protests outdated gay ban
India protests outdated gay ban Gay.com UK Thursday 18 August, 2005 11:42 A law introduced during colonial rule that bars gay sex in India is the centre of a legal struggle, with protestors calling for all anti- gay legislation to be dropped. Section 377 of the Indian Penal Code, which prohibits homosexuality, was introduced during British rule. Protestors say that is not only out of date, but also that the law is out of step with India's tolerant attitude towards lesbians and gay men. The law is currently facing a legal challenge, placed in the Supreme Court by the Naz Foundation Trust in 2001. Protestors gathered in Mumbai last week, calling on the government to scrap the legislation and offer better protection to lesbian and gay citizens. They are launching a petition, which they hope will raise awareness of the issue and also display the level of support for the change to government. Those who took part in the demonstration told the mid-day.com website that the legislation was destructive to their well-being. If a section of society wants to practice sex with a person of the same gender then why should anyone have a problem? Lawyer Ashish Garg said. Our constitution ensures freedom of life and personal liberty, but article 377 violates this right. The current legislation outlaws carnal intercourse against the order of nature, and equates homosexuality with bestiality. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- font face=arial size=-1a href=http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hvv55gf/M=323294.6903899.7846637.3022212/D=groups/S=1705064406:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1124398784/A=2896130/R=0/SIG=11llkm9tk/*http://www.donorschoose.org/index.php?lc=yahooemail;Give underprivileged students the materials they need to learn. Bring education to life by funding a specific classroom project /a./font ~- Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b More Media reports-Hum hon Gay kamyaab is their new slogan
Hum hon Gay kamyaab is their new slogan Gay march demanded free sexual identities and equal rights Express Features Service Mumbai, August 16: PINK balloons and painted faces stood out amidst the rush of office-goers on a grey evening at Flora Fountain. A row of people, who held up banners with catchlines that would make a copywriter proud, stood next to the statue. 'Pyaar Hua Ikraar Hua Queer Hua To Kya Hua' screamed a multi- coloured banner.While some passers-by didn't hide their smirks, a handful participated in asignature drive to amend Section 377. ''Lagta hai kya aapko (Do I look gay)?'' asked a mocking passer-by, when asked if he belonged to the gay community. The 21-year-old advertising professional claimed to support the cause of equal rights for homosexuals and transgenders. ''Isse Bobby Darling famous hai (Bobby Darling is famous because of this),'' said 24-year-old Raj Kaudhare, who believed that homosexual men have already been embraced by the public via Bollywood. Film-maker Onir (35), who recently directed My Brother Nikhil, which tackled a gay relationship for the first time in Indian cinema, narrated how he encountered closed minds during its making. ''I was asked to change the central character to a heterosexual when I looked for funding,'' he said, ''Very often, films include gay caricatures that turn out to be negative and I'd rather have no exposure than bad exposure.'' As flashbulbs went off and the protesters took a break, the protest showed signs of turning into another spectacle. But a visibly frightened 21-year-old, who shied away from cameras, symbolised the purpose of the march: ''Once the law is amended, people like me can live in dignity.'' Section 377 Whoever has carnal intercourse against the order of nature with any man, woman or animal, shall be punished with imprisonment for life, or with imprisonment for a term which may extend to 10 years, and shall also be liable to a fine. Some reasons why the protest was held included the fact that Section 377: * implies that people who are gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender are criminals and that sexual acts that do not lead to procreation are illegal * does not distinguish sex between two willing adult partners and molestation /rape * was brought into India by the British in 1860, who discarded this law in their own country in 1967 Homosexuals want outdated law changed By: Hemal Ashar and Varsha Gopinathan August 17, 2005 - --- Homosexuals gathered at Hutatma Chowk yesterday to oppose Section 377 of the Indian Penal Code 'Love Knows No Gender', 'Same Sex Love is not a Crime', were just two of the many messages on placards that were seen at Hutatma Chowk yesterday. Mumbai's many homosexuals, wore these messages in a unique show of strength as they gathered to demonstrate their opposition to Section 377 of the Indian Penal Code. The law they say, continues to impinge upon their lives, but more importantly,the Supreme Court is about to take an important decision related to a second PIL filed against section 377, that was filed by the Naz Foundation (India) Trust in 2001. They kicked off a nationwide signature campaign with an aim of collecting a million signatures against the law. Men, with faces painted in rainbow colours (a symbol of gay rights) and women,raised their voices, distributed leaflets to office-goers and held red balloons in a show of sexual diversity. While there were people who signed up for the cause, some lesbians admitted, It is getting difficult for people to sign up. They do not want to go against the law. For them, the law is the law. A man was heard arguing with the gay rights activists, Tum log bhook hartal karo (Go on a hunger strike). Go to New Delhi and get the law changed. What is the use of doing all this here? A song rang through the gathering, 'aaj kal teremere pyaar ke charche har zabaan par' sab ko maloom hai aur sab ko khabar ho gayi, to kya? What they say Section 377 was brought in India by the British in 1860. The law was revoked in the UK in 1967, yet it continues to remain a law here. How can Indians be judged on a 19th century ideology, when our history shows remarkable tolerance towards sexual diversity? Anand Grover Lawyer If a section of society wants to practice sex with a person of the same gender then why should anyone have a problem? Our constitution ensures freedom of life and personal liberty, but article 377 violates this right. Ashish Garg Corporate lawyer Two years ago, my mom caught me having sex with another guy. Initially, she was angry, but now she has accepted it. Even my office staff has accepted me for who I am. Aslam Shekih Gay activist We have sex with mutual consent. If we are not forcing anyone to have sex with us then why is it that we are treated like criminals? Are we the
g_b Protest against Article 377 in Mumbai by the LGBT Community
courtesy GB === The Rising. India's 59th Independence Day. Mangal Pandey - The Rising: a story of India's first battle of Independence from the British. Bombay's incredible protest against a British law that criminalizes us. All three things came together for me on an unforgettable August weekend. I reached Flora Fountain in the morning on Tuesday, August 16, 2005. A nice bright August day. Got 2000 Marathi-English and 2000 Hindi- English leaflets of our 'Reasons for Opposing 377' brochure printed on pink and yellow paper. Spent the day at the Alliance, watching a film and reading... told the director of Alliance about our planned protest as well. He said he was busy but vowed to try and make it. As the afternoon sun got softer, I went to Geeta's house. I had a splitting headache and was feeling really unwell. She was a 'Didi' to perfection, nursing me back with adrak-ka-chai and a Brufen. Slept for a while, then we walked down to Flora Fountain. 5pm, Flora Fountain: Paige, our brain behind the entire excercise, was buzzing about, busier than a bee. The pandal had been erected on the east side of Flora Fountain (facing Horniman garden). The pamphlets had just arrived from the printer. [Many thanks for your help, Bhushan and Deepak, on the Marathi translations, and Raj, for the Hindi]. Kalpana and Santosh from Lawyer's collective were already there, distributing material. The dedicated Humsafar gang had arrived with a tempo-full of banners, placards, and outreach materials. The office-returning crowd was starting to filter by and they would stop by the stall. They would take the document in the language of their choice. They would read it silently and attentively. Then one of us gently explained in brief what the struggle for gay rights was about, and respectfully proffered the signature sheets for the petition, requesting them to sign if they agreed. I was at the stall from 5 to 9pm and I would put the number of people who signed after reading at sixty percent. We collected a total of 620 signatures in the course of the evening. The Humsafar boys got to work, some painting their faces with bright colours, everyone taking up one or the other of the SUPERB banners that were made at the Humsafar center in the planning meetings during the build-up to the event. Girish, Ernest, Shashikant, Rakesh, Shoaib, and so many others donned the placards around their necks. Others unfurled the big banners and stood in a line along the Southern side of the Flora Fountain square. 6 pm, Flora Fountain: It was a sight to behold. HUNDREDS of passers- by gawking at this display of gay rights. The huge, 6-feet long banners and 3x3 foot placards-around-necks were brilliant. There were so many, I can't remember all but here are a few off the top of my head: 01. (My favorite) GUD (in Hindi script) = VERY GOOD 02. HUM HON'GAY' (only the word GAY in English) KAAMAYAAB 03. WHATS IN YOUR DNA! (with male-male and female-female symbols) 04. EQUAL HUMAN RIGHTS FOR HIJRAS 05. (another brilliant one) KANOON NAHIN THHA TAB SE HUM HAIN 06. HINDU MUSLIM SIKH ISAAI, HETERO-HOMO BHAI BHAI 07. (this one is my abso all-time fave) PREM AAHE, PREM ASTE; TUMCHA AMCHA SAME ASTE! 08. ALL ARE DIFFERENT, ALL ARE EQUAL 09. LOVE IS IN ALL THE SEVEN COLOURS 10. LESBIAN RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS 11. (another fave, and it was so amazing to watch it in Geeta's neck as she tirelessly talked to people about 377) PROUD INDIAN LESBIAN 12. (another one of my favorites, especially made I think for little Jain me) JIYO AUR JEENE DO 13. NO SPECIAL RIGHTS JUST EQUAL RIGHTS 14. GAY BY NATURE, PROUD BY CHOICE 15. (another gem) PYAA HUA IKRAAR HUA, QUEER HAI TO KYA HUA? 16. LOVE KNOWS NO GENDER (which was monopolized by Shalini and Georgie) 17. (a huge, 15 foot banner I think) SAME-SEX LOVE IS NOT A CRIME 18. (one of the 4 Urdu-language banners) ANGREZ CHALE GAYE, 377 CHODKE GAYE. 19. HUMEIN HAMARI AZADI DO, SECTION 377 KO BADLO. People thronged the stalls, they had so many questions. Some were silly but most were intelligent. Many didn't know that such a law existed in the first place. The volunteers who'd gone out with the petitions for the signatures, were returning page after page of signed sheets, and we were storing them in one place after numbering the sheets carefully so that none got lost. Nitin K arrived later and took over the information dissemination and signatures work. My friend Raj, who's first time it was in any sort of activist gay space, explained beautifully about 377 and the campaign like a pro. It was brilliant to see how all of us were transformed, how this space of collective power just buoyed and lifted everyone's spirits up. The LABIA and Aanchal teams were there in large numbers, as were members from Gaybombay. Sopan was busy enclosing the historical moments for posterity on video. 7pm, Flora Fountain: By the time the place was SWARMING with press photographers and TV crews. I
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g_b Activists protest law on homosexuality
Activists protest law on homosexuality - --- NDTV Correspondent Tuesday, August 16, 2005 (Mumbai): Mumbai today was witness to a protest by human rights activists calling for a ban of the controversial section 377 of the Indian Penal Code. This section of the IPC terms homosexuality as an unnatural act and is punishable with life imprisonment. It implies that people who are gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender are criminals. A law that was first introduced by the British in 1860, and soon discarded by the British themselves in 1967, still continues to be enforced here in India. In 2001, a petition challenging section 377 was filed the Delhi High Court, and the case is now pending before the Supreme Court. Activists say that by violating what is essentially a consensual act, the section 377 violates the right to privacy and discriminates on the basis of sexual orientation. They also say that what is considered 'against the order of nature' is actually just how some people express their love or sexuality. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- font face=arial size=-1a href=http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12h28eljq/M=362329.6886307.7839373.3022212/D=groups/S=1705064406:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1124229311/A=2894324/R=0/SIG=11hia266k/*http://www.youthnoise.com/page.php?page_id=1998;1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery/a./font ~- Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b New Internet worm affects Windows users -
New Internet worm affects Windows users - http://fullcoverage.yahoo.com/s/nm/singapore_virus_dc;_ylt=Ar5UG2WuCA 2WwmDCgu_6yFnDr7sF;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl Trend Micro 1 hour, 16 minutes ago A new Internet virus has been detected that can infect Microsoft's Windows platforms faster than previous computer worms, said an anti- virus computer software maker. The ZOTOB virus appeared shortly after the world's largest software maker warned of three newly found critical security flaws in its software, including one that could allow attackers to take complete control of a computer. The latest worm exploits security holes in Microsoft's Windows 95, 98, ME, NE, 2000 and XP platforms and can give computer attackers remote access to affected systems, said Trend Micro Inc.. Hundreds of infection reports were sighted in the United States and Germany, Tokyo-based Trend Micro said in a statement released late last week. Since most users may not be aware of this newly announced security hole so as to install the necessary patch during last weekend, we can foresee more infections from WORM_ZOTOB, it said. The latest virus drops a copy of itself into the Windows system folder as BOTZOR.EXE and modifies the system's host file in the infected user's computer to prevent the user getting online assistance from antivirus web sites, Trend Micro added. It can also connect to a specific Internet relay chat server and give hackers remote control over affected systems, which can be used to infect other unpatched machines in a network and slow down the network performance. Last Tuesday, Microsoft issued patches to fix its security flaws as part of its monthly security bulletin. The problems affect the Windows operating system and Microsoft's Internet Explorer Web browser. Microsoft has warned that an attacker could exploit a vulnerability in its Internet Explorer Web browser and lure users to malicious Web pages, and could run a software code on the user's PC giving the attacker control of the affected computer. Computer users should update their anti-virus pattern files and apply the latest Microsoft patches to protect their computer systems, Trend Micro said. More than 90 percent of the world's PCs run on the Windows operating system and Microsoft has been working to improve the security and reliability of its software. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- font face=arial size=-1a href=http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hu1kk1n/M=362343.6886681.7839642.3022212/D=groups/S=1705064406:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1124138206/A=2894354/R=0/SIG=11qvf79s7/*http://http://www.globalgiving.com/cb/cidi/c_darfur.html;Help Sudanese refugees rebuild their lives through GlobalGiving/a./font ~- Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b A Public Protest against S. 377 IPC at FloraFountain,Fort,Mumbai on 16th August,
A Public Protest against S. 377 IPC at FloraFountain,Fort,Mumbai on 16th August, 6-9pm Dear All, On August 16, a special event is taking place at Flora Fountain, Mumbai. As organizations concerned about the human rights, health, and freedom of gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people, we are gathering to demonstrate our opposition to Section 377 of the Indian Penal Code, a law that continues to impinge upon our lives in direct and indirect ways. Attached is a note that explains exactly why we seek an amendment to this law. The gathering is linked to a nationwide signature campaign with the goal of collecting a million voices against Section 377 IPC. In asking for an amendment to this law, we state that our struggle against control of sexuality is a matter of social justice and linked to our struggle for women's rights, our fight against fundamentalism, and our vision of a just world, where people have the freedom to be different and yet be treated as equals. Any law that breeds intolerance and ignorance has no place in a society that's proud of its diversity and democratic ideals. As long as the law supports the idea that homosexual people are criminals, it will ensure the continuation of harassment, blackmail, unethical medical interventions, stigma and discrimination, in addition to impeding HIV/AIDS prevention. The Supreme Court is about to take an important decision related to a second Public Interest Litigation that was filed by Naz Foundation (India) Trust in 2001. Your show of support by attending this event would be most appreciated. Come to Flora Fountain August 16 2005, 6pm to 9pm Aanchal Trust: 2352-2787 Gay Bombay Humjinsi: 2343-5700 The Humsafar Trust: 2667-3800 LABIA: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Lawyers Collective HIV/AIDS Unit Ph: 2287 1101/2 The Safe Sailors Club: 2665-0547 Why We Object to Section 377 of the Indian Penal Code Section 377 of the Indian Penal Code (IPC) states under Unnatural Offences: Whoever voluntarily has carnal intercourse against the order of nature with any man, woman or animal, shall be punished with [imprisonment for life], or with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to ten years and shall also be liable to a fine. 1. Section 377 implies that people who are gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender are criminals, just for being who they are. It makes sexual acts that do not lead to procreation illegal. This is expressly unjust: what it considered by S.377 as against the order of nature is simply how a minority of the population expresses love and sexuality. 2. Section 377 does not distinguish between sex between two willing, adult partners and sexual molestation/rape. It seeks to punish both equally. We ask that consensual, adult sexual relations be removed from the scope of S.377 by reading down the law so that it only applies to sexual abuse. 3. Section 377 breeds a culture of injustice, leading to extortion and blackmail of gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people. While heterosexual couples also engage in non-procreative sex, they are never harassed for doing so 4. Section 377 contributes to the intense pressure gay men and women face while being forced by their families to get married. In trying to fulfill societal expectations, the lives of both homosexual people and their spouses are ruined. 5. Section 377 reinforces societal prejudice against homosexual people that leads to depression and that has driven people to suicide. 6. Section 377 hinders essential communication about HIV/AIDS and contributes to an environment where stigma and ignorance flourishes. When a large section of society is not given appropriate safer sex information and services, they are denied the right to life and health. 7. Section 377 was brought into India by the British in 1860, and they discarded this law in their own country in 1967. Yet it still remains a law here. How can Indian citizens be judged on 19th century biblical ideology, when our history shows remarkable tolerance towards sexual diversity? 8. Section 377 has no place in a society that cherishes democracy and equality. A society's attitude towards its own diversity is a key indicator of its commitment to these ideals. Meet at Flora Fountain, Mumbai 16 August 2005, 6 pm to 9 pm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- font face=arial size=-1a href=http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hq38t3b/M=362329.6886307.7839373.3022212/D=groups/S=1705064406:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1124138634/A=2894324/R=0/SIG=11hia266k/*http://www.youthnoise.com/page.php?page_id=1998;1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery/a./font ~- Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply)
g_b TWO NEW GAY EXECUTIONS SCHEDULED IN IRAN, SAYS IRANIAN EXILE GROUP
TWO NEW GAY EXECUTIONS SCHEDULED IN IRAN, SAYS IRANIAN EXILE GROUP by Doug Ireland Doug Ireland Doug Ireland, a longtime radical political journalist and media critic, is a former columnist for the Village Voice, the New York Observer, New York magazine, the Parisian daily Libération and other papers, and writes for a variety of publications on both sides of the Atlantic, as well as being a contributing editor of Poz magazine and In These Times. Among those he writes for regularly these days is the L.A. Weekly, where his articles on politics frequently appear. Doug has been proudly out of the closet as a gay man since 1973, and has written extensively about gay political issues. He lives and writes in New York City, but considers Paris his second home. In the last 24 hours I've been in torch with Farhad Hoseini of the International Federation of Iranian Refugees (IFIR), who reports that two gay men -- Farbod Mostaar and Ahmad Chooka -- have been tried and sentenced to be executed for homosexuality on August 28, in the Iranian city of Arak. As soon as i got the first e-mail alerting me to this new set of scheduled executions, I placed a call its sender, the IFTR's Hoseini, who is part of the IFTR secretariat in The Netherlands. He told me that he and the IFTR had received the information about these scheduled new gay executions from members of the families of the two men whose death at the hands of the Islamic Republic of Iran has been programmed. Hoseini asserted that the men were to be killed for consensual homosexual acts with each other -- such acts are punishable by death in the Islamic Republic. But he had very little other information -- he promised to get me more. As I noted in my latest article for New York City's Gay City News on the hangings of the two gay Iranian teens in the city of Mashad on July 19, the climate of repression and surveillance of gays in in Iran the wake of those hangings has increased tremendously since the news of these barbaric executions went global and elicited world- wide protests. Hoseini confirmed that the IFTR's contacts inside Iran also are reporting this crackdown -- and he said everyone is afraid to talk about State anti-gay repression, including the families of the two men now reportedly set to be executed at the end of this month in Arak, which is central Iran. The IFTR is a left-wing organization that has existed since 1990, and is opposed to both the Islamist regime and to the Pahlevi monarchy -- but Iranian scholarly sources I contacted told me that, whatever differences they may have had over strategy and tactics with the IFTR (which urged a boycott of the last presidential election), they would be reliable on this issue. As soon as I heard from Hoseini, I immediately informed Scott Long, head of the gay and lesbian department at Human Rights Watch -- which had not yet heard of these new scheduled executions -- of what I had learned. HRW has yet to react officially to this report. This story will be updated by PageOneQ as soon as more information becomes available. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- font face=arial size=-1a href=http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hikhd1o/M=362343.6886681.7839642.3022212/D=groups/S=1705064406:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1124054341/A=2894350/R=0/SIG=10tj5mr8v/*http://www.globalgiving.com;Make a difference. Find and fund world-changing projects at GlobalGiving/a./font ~- Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
g_b Indian Hospitals Refuse HIV-Pos Patients
Indian Hospitals Refuse HIV-Pos Patients http://www.gaynz.com/news/default.asp?dismode=articleartid=2707 Two state-run hospitals in India have been accused of turning away patients who are HIV positive. One man was refused surgery for a painful abscess in his stomach after doctors learned of his HIV status. In an earlier case last month, a pregnant woman was also denied treatment on the same grounds. India has the world's second highest rate of HIV, with more then 5 million cases. Both hospitals refusing treatment are in the same province, where the local State AIDS Control Society are threatening legal action if no adequate explanation is given by the hospitals. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- font face=arial size=-1a href=http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hkhrfbi/M=323294.6903899.7846637.3022212/D=groups/S=1705064406:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1124054350/A=2896129/R=0/SIG=11llkm9tk/*http://www.donorschoose.org/index.php?lc=yahooemail;DonorsChoose. A simple way to provide underprivileged children resources often lacking in public schools. Fund a student project in NYC/NC today/a!/font ~- Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking Reply) will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
