In a message dated 10/17/2004 11:32:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
After a few minutes, all was quiet. The door opened slowly and there stood the woman. She wiped the sweat from her brow and said, "You guys didn't tell me the Gun was loaded with blanks. So I had to
In a message dated 10/18/2004 11:39:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Asfan,you are a scream. This is a fantastic joke. But God save us if he comes back.Ashok Row Kavi
Asfan and Ashok -
I understand the joke...it is a relatively standard format joke that I have heard for
In a message dated 10/22/2004 12:03:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Asfan Dear.
Lizzie and Darling are very acceptable to me...separately or combined..
I love the word that seems to have left the American vocabulary...'kabang'...it is the little sister of
Gay_Bombay -
It is very heartwarming for me to see all the honest and innocent thoughts of
the Indian Gay community...it reminds me of the thought processes that the
Gay community of the SF Bay Area 35 years ago...when nobody seemed to really
understand what was going to be the future of
Asfan -
A few jokes sent to me by a doctor in Colorado Springs while I am sitting in
cool and breezy Bombay..
I take no responsibility for any of the jokes...feel free to alternate
anybody you want into the starring roles in the jokes..
Love..
Elizabeth
What is a Yankee?
The same as a
Gay Bombay -
After 35 years to find that neither party was willing to stand up for equal
rights of homosexuals...I feel that the gay and lesbian movement in the USA has
to break the current paradigm...or they may wait two or three more
generations...as the blacks had to...after the Civil War
In a message dated 11/4/2004 12:11:31 PM Mountain Standard Time,
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I guess I have to make a comment about this too, even
though I am Canadian, what happens in the US affects
us dramatically. Today 80% of Canadians are anti
American, never before have we had so many
In a
I am an openly TG American professional from Wyoming...in my state and many
others in the USA we are allowed to adopt children above the age of
majority...which in the USA is 18...it is called 'adult' adoption..
I have had a long and busy life...and did not have the time to focus on
In a message dated 11/5/2004 12:05:45 PM Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Mary Cheney, the VP's
lesbian daughter, who was kept out of sight for most of the campaign,
was back there on the stage along with her partner.
Vikram -
Maybe Mary Cheney has been out of sight
In a message dated 11/6/2004 12:15:00 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
We do it
here for $20 and we also get $18 back from the Medicare for a visit to
the doctor's office."
I am only 54...too young for Medicare...but I do get $16 back from Blue Cross/Blue Shield..
Tapesh -
Possibly your insurance pays in pounds...not bucks..
Elizabeth
In a message dated 11/8/2004 10:39:05 AM Pacific Standard Time,
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Oh Dear
WONDERING whats all this all about of refunds of $ 18 $20's ??
Nothing of that sort happens in the UK though --- although
In a message dated 11/10/2004 5:23:53 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/910079.cms
They almost seemed to say that elections based on the majority will of the
people were the crude practice of less developed countries..
Having
In a message dated 11/14/2004 5:48:45 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
i am a married person, having come to know about mysexual orientation after marriage. now my wife knowsand we are both undergoing deep mental torture. iwould like to 'change' 'willingly' as the doctor
FIRST EVER FULL MOVIE ON EUNUCHS By Our Staff In the News
For the first time a full-fledged film based on the real life of the eunuchs in India is going to hit the silver screen as 'Sabnam Mausi'. The eunuchs are normal human beings. But unfortunately they are forced to live
Lest anyone think I was recommending the barbaric behavior of Prash's doctor...let me say that never in my life have I been subjected to any of the tortures meted out to Prash in the email down below...and I actually saw my first psychiatrist when I was an erratic and unusual grade schooler
The youth is our future...and they tend to be more open to diversity than many of us old folks..
..
High School's Gay-Straight Alliance Draws Surprising Support
Similar
I have looked at 1,3,6,7,8,10...the rest I deleted unread...I should have checked out 18...but deleted it for some reason...probably a fast trigger finger...
#3 I have read twice trying to find the human behind the blurb...I will call the Gill Foundation in Denver tomorrow...to see why they
Please...pleasedo not have unprotected sex and bring...sexually transmitted diseases home to your wives...no matter whether you have told them about your full range of sexual activity or not..
It is unfair to them, your children and family...and most of all to the future of India
The Ayatollah and the transsexual
That Maryam Khatoon Molkara can live a normal life is due to a compassionate decision by one man: the leader of the Islamic revolution himself. By Angus McDowall in Tehran and Stephen Khan
25 November 2004
Maryam Khatoon Molkara is the first to admit that
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I have waited for the other Wyomingians in this group to speak up...but lacking their voices and opinions...you are now stuck with mine..
My personal and business attorney for 16 years and at the time of Matthew Shepard's death was Hugh McFadden...the City Attorney of Laramie..
My current
As a child I only went to boys schools...the first major contact that I had
with female students was when I entered UCal-Berkeley..
Picking on one another seems to be a universal form of behavior with the
youth...i even find it among my litters of puppies..
It does not seem that this young
See what I mean...neither side is interested in Matthew Shepard...just a
bunch of grandstanding to gather money from their ardent followers...
Good thing us smart people have senses of humour...
Elizabeth
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sounds like a great time...if crosswords is not a gay bookstore...and you do not want to let people know you are gayshow up a bit late...and stand there listening like a confused outsidermy father always said nobody ever really knows what is going on in another person's mind...
Gaybombay -
You have used an excellent tool...by removing any identification of the writers except their verbal statements...and then allowing the reader to digest all the verbiage equally...and tolet the readermake up his mind based upon their personal allegiance to ideas and not
GayBombay and all its members and sympathizers -
These are times that you can show the greater society in India what you are
made of...
Organize drives to assist in the affected areas...volunteer to assist
individually or as groups in these areas...to the full extent of your
capacities...if
Mannu -
If you are CD or TG...i would recommend hitting the groups in Delhi,
Hyderabad and Bangalore...they like security in numbers and you would find many
managers and higher who could help you...if you are qualified to do the work..
Otherwise get on your computer and hit your schools
Asfan -
No wonder Argentina could never get its act together...the govt was only paying about 25 pesos a head...and the folks down their never learned the art of dreaming big like us Americans...I mean really really big like we do..
Elizabeth
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In a message dated 12/30/2004 2:26:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, :
Powell Says U.S. Determined to Help Victims
By ANNE GEARAN, AP
WASHINGTON (Dec. 30) - Secretary of State Colin Powell, visiting the Embassy of Thailand Thursday to formally extend condolences to the victims of the Asian and
In a message dated 12/31/2004 10:48:59 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Why not Black? Blue? Green?Tintin.
in the USA some are...they even have Dayglow orange...for those who are afraid nobody will notice theirs...tell me what you need and I will FedEx them to you...are
The coalition has expanded - Japan, India, Australia, Canada, USA and UN
Now this is a great idea...maybe these 5 brilliant democracies can help
educate many of the UN's passe dictatorships and princedoms on the challenges
of
the 21st century at the same time..
This might be the catalyst
Asfan is doing a great job as always...but if there is a problem with big pix
for some of the members...possibly...people could use a code like BP at the
beginning of their title to pre-warn those with slow computers or inadequate
space..
elizabeth
Yahoo!
As a person who was clearly identified by a gay psychiatrist in 1971 as being definitely 'unusual'..
I heartily recommend that all members of GayBombay...be they stressed or comfortable with their sexuality...attend this meeting...or find a way to make contact with this or another 'psych'
In a message dated 1/25/2005 7:40:01 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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personally I can't wait to become an aunt!
Vikram -
I am overwhelmed...I knew a creative person like you and Abraham Lincoln
had to be TG...it is amazing how many gay TGs can not admit to being
Moderator -
Please delete my previous email on this topic as i have actually found the
owner of Asfan's hate email and think we should probably let the hate email die
there...without extending it humorously or not...into GB any further...for any
of our sakes...
Though both of youand
Just more proof of that sexuality is not a political belief..
In a message dated 2/20/2005 7:16:08 PM Mountain Standard Time,
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White
House's loyal reporter once worked as gay hooker
By Andrew
Buncombe in Washington
20 February 2005
Washington is
In a message dated 2/26/2005 11:50:40 AM Mountain Standard Time,
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3.
Shun debt
Nobody becomes a
millionaire by being in debt. In fact, being in debt is a surefire way to dry
your savings, but can get you into further debt.
This is the first time
In a message dated 3/2/2005 5:57:18 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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Hi
AllDoes any one know how to play DVDs on a laptop having
Windows-XPas OS ? I have tried running the movie but it didn't. I
thoughtWindows-XP has its built in DVD Player.Any help would be
Updated: 05:47 PM
EST
Report Says Women Worse Off Now Than 10 Years
Ago
U.N. Conference Assesses
Progress Since Landmark Beijing Meeting
By Deborah Zabarenko,
Reuters
UNITED NATIONS (March 3) - Life for many of the world's
women has become tougher in the decade since a global U.N.
In a message dated 3/6/2005 6:13:44 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
All you
closet gaythe best way to not be afraid and blackmailedis to BE OUT OF
THE CLOSETthere are 15% gays in India WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID
OFFBest Regards John Sharp Alcatel India Ltd.Mobile:+91
Vikram -
In 1970 or so...while I was still a student a Berkeley...the Student office
building which held the offices of the Daily Californian...changed all the
bathrooms to unisex...because of the fact that the building had been built with
men's rooms and women's rooms on different
Asfan -
That is one of the reasons I was an employer not an employee...for 30+
years...till my retirement in December..
It is so much better if your are an unusual character to have direct
control of your passage through life...instead of trying to support someone
else's dream of
uh oh guys...i have been converted to 'digest' mode again...against my will
of course, as usual..
do you think humans will eventually become the 'silent women' of the
cyberworld??
after they break our hearts of course..
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Jimmy -
Asfan is only interested in the limited material aspects of life like
health...
I want you to turn me into the young Lauren Bacall...married to the great
Humphrey Bogart..
Or at least the spirit of Faye Dunaway...as Bonnie...ruling the world and
the dreams of the socially
Asfan -
I am sorry...I did not really know thatJimmy was serious..
I thought Jimmy was just playing a joke on us..
If he can actually do everything he says...I bet he is either a miracle
worker or a snake oil salesman..
In the USA the FDA and the AMA are outrageously prejudiced against
Beats me what this means but please keep me getting individual emails as
you post them...and not the digest mode..
n a message dated 4/1/2005 11:40:12 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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Hello,This is to inform you that your request to change
yoursubscription to
Bobby Darling's story shows how universal the Transgendered experience
is..
I do not know Bobby but there is a great possibility that her self
identification as a 'gay' person might be more related to the current standards
of sex and gender in the Indian theatrical and middle and upper
Satya -
I would be delighted to come...but just as you cannot make it to dinner
Sunday night in Denver...it looks like Flo and I probably would not be able to
get back in time for our dinner party in Denver, that night either..
However, two individuals that I would like to make Hijra/TG
Check out the sections on 'Indian' 'Support Groups' in the 'Resources'
section of the 'Organization' menu of our website.. www.TGVoices.org
It maybe a good starting point for you..
Remember that the Internet life is very limited...and that real live human
intercommunication is the 'reaI
Anybody want to go??
I'll see you there..
Elizabeth
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Cultural perspectives on the act of addictive
infidelity
I do not want to direct my comments atour friend Jimmy...for with
8000 members I must assume that there are many in GayBombay who share his
beliefs on proper parenting...I will name my icon of 'poor parenting' for the
purpose of
For your interests...
I am sure the state parliaments are watched and lobbied in a similar
fashion in India...if not here is a good template to work from..
I will be flying to Bangalore while they are debating and voting..
Wish us luck!!
Elizabeth
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SB05-28
Rick and Laura -
I hope the Gill Foundation has its eyes open...if India falls to AIDs like
many African countries already have...the economic catastrophe will devastate
the developed world as well.
I hope you and the Gill are on board with this challenge.
Sincerely.
Elizabeth Jeffords
Okay there are a lot of Indian IT engineers, scholars and
students in Colorado..
Get your friends back there to call Governor
Owens..
Elizabeth
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There is always two sides to any story...though i feel terrible that her
wife does not approve of her make-up style...i cannot think of anything in India
that could be better than two wonderful loving moms..
Elizabeth
In a message dated 5/5/2005 11:15:43 PM Mountain Standard Time,
In a message dated 5/8/2005 10:49:33 PM Mountain Standard Time,
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Wish all of the Moms in GB a ' Happy Mom's Day'~~ ..
Regards,
SAHIL.
Sahil -
Next year we should have a mothers day party sponsored by
GB...where we can all show off our kids in
In a message dated 5/10/2005 5:52:34 AM Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
"I
realized that when I got to Indiana or Kentucky that these people need to know
not only their history, but that there is a unification in our community, and
they need to know that it is
GayBombay -
This is a wonderful magazine that pushes the limits of what Paul Krassner's
'The Realist' tried to do 3 decades ago...to new terrain..
I recommend 'other' to all TGs and real 'Queers' as well as the questioning
members of the 'normal' Indian homo and hetero communities..
Friends -
Transgendered Voices will pay the 12,000Rs/ - p.a. fees for 5 hijras or
genetic women working with organizations specializing in assisting the hijra
community...to take the course in 'NGO Management'..
Transgendered Voices will also reimburse the 100Rs cost of
receiving the
In a message dated 5/15/2005 12:37:59 PM Mountain Standard Time,
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Yes, but
couldn't it be done in the classified sections?AND, they do take up space
in the inbox.Pl do consider. Especially as there is a "new Classified
Section" (see under). thanx,Asfan.
In a message dated 5/20/2005 8:54:43 PM Mountain Standard Time,
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i am in
san francisco bay area, looking for indian and paki
friends.nabil
TGs???
Check out
Carlas in SJ...near The Alameda...and www.tgsf.org in SF..
Elizabeth
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I have been thinking about a hijara/eunuch olive oil collective or
agricultural cooperative...you know like our sequestered Benedictine and
Trappist siblings do with booze and jam...I bet we could stuff the shelves of
the 'Whole Foods' and independent health food stores in the
Zia Jaffrey is a wonderful Indo-American as well as a wonderful writer to
read...remember 'The Invisibles'..
Elizabeth
..
Time, jaffrey writes:
Dear Elizabeth,
Thank you for that. I hope you
are well.
We are all grieving Ismail's
loss.
In a message dated 5/27/2005 12:51:43 PM Mountain Standard Time,
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..
Um... olives don't grow in India.
Vikram
Vikram -
Any reason??...you definitely have similar lands to South Australia and the
Mediterranean...we can grow avocados, aloe vera and the
I got this not from a girl I have known since second grade...who writes for
a major magazine in London now..
Has anybody seen the show and/or have a copy they would to
send me..
Elizabeth??
Youd love this
program that was on Channel 4 here last night. I disagree with the review
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Moderators do what you wish with this...just thought it might
spice up your day..
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Okay girls...get your butts and/or bucks down to Kolkata/Calcutta..
See you there..
Elizabeth
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Subject: THE RAINBOWFESTIVAL 2005 : Kolkata Gay Pride looks for your
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Subject: PRIZESJohn the farmer was in the
fertilized egg business. He had several hundred young layers (hens), called
pullets and eight or ten roosters, whose job was to fertilize the eggs. The
farmer kept records and any rooster that didn't perform went into the soup
pot and was
BEVERLY HILLS, Calif.
(June 19) - Janet Jackson was in no mood for jokes when she got a cheeky
introduction from actor Alan Cumming as she received a humanitarian award from a
gay rights group.
After Cumming joked that she was never one for controversy,
Jackson apologized for her own
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Gaybombay and Sampoorna-
If anybody here likes rural action, muscles or queens...you will love
this event..
I would even hop on a plane to Mumbai or Delhi...to watch...if
they had Gay Rodeos in those cities..
Best..
Elizabeth
July 9 10
What: Rocky Mountain Regional Rodeo
Hosted
www.cgra.net
Where else but at Gay Rodeos does the Royalty include both a
Miss Rodeo and a Ms Rodeo Queen??
I let you figure out from the pic the gender and potential
sexuality of the winners..
Best
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GBoys -
Sowhat is wrong with a person who has plastic surgery to make
themselves with feel good...I would much rather have a significant other who had
had liposuction or a rhinoplasty...than one that reverts to overeating, drugs,
drinking, smoking or risky socialand sexual intercourse to
The Full Length Wyoming and South Australia Version..
Cowboy A - You know my ranch is so big it takes me all day
toride from one side of it to the other side..
Cowboy B - Yup...I know what you are talking about...I used to
have a horse like that myself..
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Moderator -
Nothing bothers me...so long as you are nothaving to change your
scent as well...my computer feels so much more at ease when it is opening one of
your missives..
Elizabeth
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hi
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hii
am 20 years old.i am staying in bombay. i like to wear female dress for
more time as possible as . but the problem is i dont know how to wear ,how
to make up as a girl .i dont heve any
Rajiv -
Sadly this TGs death is not an isolated situation...'pumpimg parties' are very
popular where ever there are a large number of Crossdressers...who are
under-employed or unemployed in the USA...sadly not just deaths but permanently
disfiguring results are very common..
I do not know
In a message dated 7/20/2005 12:53:09 PM Mountain Standard Time,
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Hi
everyone,I am happy to announce the upcoming gay n lesbian party and
this time its on Saturday night, yes you read it right! The theme is Men
in Black, so guys... please be a sport and
There are thousands of private charities in the USA and the West that
assist the disadvantaged and AIDS suffers...many, many of them are Leftist or
populist in their goals...I would recommend that this AIDS orphanage learn these
NGOs individual requirements for funding...and to try to
As a 55 year old TG who has never been abused by police or general public
anywhere in the US during the last 37 years since I identified myself as
TG...I
would be very interested in reading this report...I guess I do not run with
the right crowd...I am very intrigued to see who is in
Dax -
Could you look at this report and ask Donna Red Wing to review it as
wellI am afraid that it is another case of Gays cruelly using the TG
community as cannon fodder...
This could be an interesting article for you toresearch to help bring
the TG Community at-large into the US
Moderator -
If www.Gaybombay.com would like to
be considered for an article in Alliance Magazine...which is a full colour,
monthly, middle-of-the-road LBGT magazine...published in Denver, Colorado...in
the process of expanding its market from the westernstates to the full US
national
Kris -
I went to the blog...sadly it is unaware that themuch
reveredFamila the hijara leader in Bangalore committed suicide a year
ago..
Elizabeth
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Ethan -
As a TG who went to architecture school in Berkeley...I would say that you
should ask us where those items that you were interested in might be...India is
just as diverse as the human mind can be...i.e. the best sweeis are probably not
found in the most logically designed
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EthanI do not know how much of the Third World
countriesyou've seen, but if you're new then I suggest youbegin your
India visit from the South. Take a flightto Bangalore, explore
Kerala,
In a message dated 10/27/2005 12:03:48 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
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I
happened to view the film on a Sunday at Huma Adlabs evening show..I reached
the theatre at 6.05 PM (6 was the show). They told me to wait for a while.
Later unwillingly they issued the
US
:Transgender Professor
click or enter on your browser..
http://us.video.aol.com/video.index.adp?mode=2guideContext=65.73pmmsid=1433787
Now if we can just get Indian society to realize that being TG and/or a
hijara/eunuch is not a sexual thing...Liz
This is a5 minuteclip
Annie Proulx -
I had the great pleasure of seeing Brokeback Mountain at the 10 AM showing
at the Mayan in Denver on Christmas..
I feel that your story has been very respectfully filmed in light of the
current needs to produce a box office worthy movie..
It is with the possible exception
Ajay and SikkimKrishna -
After your responses to my email...I have included my thoughts on the
matter based upon my life as a Wyoming rural TG cowgirl myself...in art there
are no right answers...just creations left for interpretation..
I would love to know more about your thoughts on
Charles Socarides, Gay 'Cure'
Doctor, Dies
AP
NEW YORK (AP) - Charles Socarides, the psychiatrist
famous for insisting that homosexuality was a treatable illness and who claimed
to have "cured" hundreds, has died. He was 83.
Socarides, died Dec. 25 of heart failure at a hospital
near
In a message dated 1/2/2006 10:10:31 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
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Say proudly, I AM AN INDIAN.
Regards,
Jimmy khan
Jimmy -
Even without these stunning numbers and facts you have every right to be
proud to be an Indian..
and Every person
In a message dated 1/2/2006 10:01:42 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
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Isn't
anyone else slightly uneasy about a gay film written by a woman and
starring two straight (correct me if I am wrong)actors?I haven't seen
it and expect that I am wrong. But anything so
Manan -
Both female foeticide and female infanticide push India to the very far
reaches of barbarity in the modern world...the generally published numbers that
I have seen over the last year indicate that 40 million Indian women are not
alive today...women who by simple statistics should
In a message dated 1/20/2006 9:44:24 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
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This
just brings home to me that the only right I have wanted with any
consistency is the freedom to be who I am. I'll be the first to admit that
I owe much of that freedom to group-based
Geoffrey -
As Vikram indicates...the state of the people in the North East is worse
than anything currently being experienced in Wyoming and
Australia...please stop into the northeast next time you visit India...it
is not just one dead gay man but hundreds of murdered and raped innocents
Maybe not in everybody's backyard...but there are many Indians in Philly
and New Jersey..
Elizabeth
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