Re: GFDL/GPL issues

2010-07-30 Thread Joern Rennecke
Quoting Robert Dewar : Joern Rennecke wrote: Actually, the legal definition of fair use / fair dealing that might or might not apply depends on the country of residence of the contributer Not true in the US for sure. Are you saying that the USA is a solipsist nation that denies the exis

Re: GFDL/GPL issues

2010-07-30 Thread Mark Mitchell
Robert Dewar wrote: > Whether something is fair use has to be judged on the very specific > instance in question, not clear to me that RMS has opined on a very > specific issue, if so, I missed it. We don't want to ask RMS every time we want to do this. RMS has opined on some of the specific cas

Re: GFDL/GPL issues

2010-07-30 Thread Robert Dewar
Joern Rennecke wrote: Actually, the legal definition of fair use / fair dealing that might or might not apply depends on the country of residence of the contributer Not true in the US for sure. , but if RMS says you shouldn't do this, ignoring him is not proper in the context of a GNU projec

Re: GFDL/GPL issues

2010-07-30 Thread Robert Dewar
Mark Mitchell wrote: Robert Dewar wrote: I don't think it is making this impossible, my advice is simply to consider this fair use and steam ahead, then worry if someone objects. Despite the copyright holder (well, RMS, but he certainly can be interpreted as speaking for the FSF) saying plain

Re: GFDL/GPL issues

2010-07-30 Thread Toon Moene
Richard Kenner wrote: But even for documentation written by hand, often I find that I'd like to start out with some comment or example from the actual code. The GPL / GFDL dichotomy doesn't allow me to do that, so some documentation just won't get written. Taking an example from actual code w

Re: GFDL/GPL issues

2010-07-30 Thread Joern Rennecke
Quoting Mark Mitchell : Robert Dewar wrote: I don't think it is making this impossible, my advice is simply to consider this fair use and steam ahead, then worry if someone objects. Despite the copyright holder (well, RMS, but he certainly can be interpreted as speaking for the FSF) saying p

Re: GFDL/GPL issues

2010-07-30 Thread Mark Mitchell
Robert Dewar wrote: > I don't think it is making this impossible, my advice is simply to > consider this fair use and steam ahead, then worry if someone objects. Despite the copyright holder (well, RMS, but he certainly can be interpreted as speaking for the FSF) saying plainly and clearly that h

Environmental Education Publications

2010-07-30 Thread secretariat
<#the_weec> <#Le_secr_taire> WEEC’s Corner for Environmental Education Publications The WEEC (World Environmental Education Cngress) Permanent Secretariat is trying to turn the website into a window for world-wide publications, review and events on environmental education. If an organizat

Re: GFDL/GPL issues

2010-07-30 Thread Robert Dewar
Mark Mitchell wrote: Yes, that is part of his thinking. And, yes, we can split our manuals up into GPL and GFDL pieces, and in some cases that will work fine. But, documentation of constraints (important to users for writing inline assembly), or documentation of command-line options (important

Re: GFDL/GPL issues

2010-07-30 Thread Robert Dewar
Jeff Law wrote: Isn't one of the specific instances of this issue the desire to copy some of the constraints information from the source, which would need to go into the user manual rather than internals documentation? And in some cases a function index with documentation may be precisely wh

Re: GFDL/GPL issues

2010-07-30 Thread Robert Dewar
Richard Kenner wrote: But even for documentation written by hand, often I find that I'd like to start out with some comment or example from the actual code. The GPL / GFDL dichotomy doesn't allow me to do that, so some documentation just won't get written. Taking an example from actual code wo