Re: [Gendergap] High-heeled shoes as a case study

2011-09-04 Thread Samuel Klein
I would tackle this at the level of deletion templates. Flickrwashing is a known widespread source of copyvios. 1. There should be a template specifically for that class of deletion. 2. This should be added as a new reason for deletion to the appropriate policy page. A Flickr-imported image whose

Re: [Gendergap] High-heeled shoes as a case study (and what makes me mad about Commons)

2011-09-04 Thread Sarah Stierch
*http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDH9Jq5AWkQ It's this uncomfortable tension that I feel when I log into Commons. I'm on the Warriors side. ***(and rant below) > I know that some of the images have been nominated before and kept, and > some of the images have to be repeatedly re-categorized, too.

Re: [Gendergap] ATTENTION MODERATOR- last email

2011-09-04 Thread Jeremy Baron
I also don't see the message you were referring to. Next time, if you want to address just the moderators rather than the whole list you can mail gendergap-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org -Jeremy On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 13:38, Nathan wrote: > I don't see that your message came through. Messages over a

Re: [Gendergap] Females and underrepresented students coming onboard

2011-09-04 Thread Sydney Poore
Thank you Karen for letting us know that you are inviting your students to the mailing list. It would be great to hear their perspective on the topics related to gender and Wikipedia (and Wikimedia). So, I hope that they decide to participate. Sydney FloNight On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Kare

[Gendergap] Females and underrepresented students coming onboard

2011-09-04 Thread Karen Sue Rolph
Dear Colleagues, I am too busy right now to weigh in on everything I'd like to; I have expertise on gender and diversity, which is why I'm here. I am offering the gendergap list to my Wikipedia class (university) students effective next week, so please anticipate new "faces." The greate

Re: [Gendergap] ATTENTION MODERATOR- last email

2011-09-04 Thread Nathan
I don't see that your message came through. Messages over a certain byte limit (which can often be surpassed by quoting large bodies of text) are held in moderation, so hopefully that happened to yours. You can resend it without the appended text and the list mod can just reject or ignore your orig

[Gendergap] ATTENTION MODERATOR- last email

2011-09-04 Thread Karen Sue Rolph
Would you please remove all other appended content that I did not delete from my email 3 minutes ago? There is a long string of conversation that is unnecessarily included. ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists

Re: [Gendergap] High-heeled shoes as a case study

2011-09-04 Thread Sydney Poore
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Sarah Stierch wrote: > Just a follow up... > > It doesn't even matter, anymore. Some of these images have been nominated > before, and been kept. They all just keep stating I don't know the policies > and that they are in scope. Perhaps it all is and perhaps I reall

Re: [Gendergap] High-heeled shoes as a case study

2011-09-04 Thread Sydney Poore
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Toby Hudson wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > The principle of least surprise is roughly the following: > People who go to a category/gallery/encyclopedia-article expecting > something (shoes) should not be surprised by something they may find > offensive (naked women wearing

Re: [Gendergap] High-heeled shoes as a case study

2011-09-04 Thread Sydney Poore
Hi Toby :-) You made my day by cleaning up this category! I thought I was going to have to make room in my schedule to do it today. If you look through my contributions on Commons, you see that for the last 18 months the bulk of my edits to Commons is cleaning up mis-categorized controversial ima

Re: [Gendergap] High-heeled shoes as a case study

2011-09-04 Thread Sarah Stierch
Just a follow up... It doesn't even matter, anymore. Some of these images have been nominated before, and been kept. They all just keep stating I don't know the policies and that they are in scope. Perhaps it all is and perhaps I really am an idiot who just can't comprehend the policies, despite r

Re: [Gendergap] High-heeled shoes as a case study

2011-09-04 Thread Sarah Stierch
This was left on my talk page after I nominated a photo by this user for deletion: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Missvain#You_seem_to_be_unaware_of_some_few_things... This is the photo I tagged. It no longer has a Flickr account, it's not used anywhere, there isn't a single educatio

Re: [Gendergap] High-heeled shoes as a case study

2011-09-04 Thread Sarah Stierch
Great, thank you :) On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Toby Hudson wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > The principle of least surprise is roughly the following: > People who go to a category/gallery/encyclopedia-article expecting > something (shoes) should not be surprised by something they may find > offensive

Re: [Gendergap] High-heeled shoes as a case study

2011-09-04 Thread Toby Hudson
Hi Sarah, The principle of least surprise is roughly the following: People who go to a category/gallery/encyclopedia-article expecting something (shoes) should not be surprised by something they may find offensive (naked women wearing shoes). One way to ensure this is to make clearly labelled su

Re: [Gendergap] High-heeled shoes as a case study

2011-09-04 Thread Sarah Stierch
Hi Toby - Sorry to be a n00b but, can you explain what you mean by "refactoring this category according to the principle of least surprise?" For anyone else - if you find an image that has been uploaded by a Flickr bot, and the Flickr account has been deleted what do you do? I notice a large port

Re: [Gendergap] High-heeled shoes as a case study

2011-09-04 Thread Toby Hudson
I've made a start on refactoring this category according to the principle of least surprise. Feel free to do this whenever you notice a "surprising" image in a mundane category. Regarding consent, if any of the identifiable women are in private locations, http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/COM:PE

Re: [Gendergap] High-heeled shoes as a case study

2011-09-04 Thread Chris Keating
> The number of images in Category:High-heeled shoes is higher than most > categories about footwear. Approximately one- third of the images are of > full body shots of attractive females who are wearing high heeled shoes, and > a significant number of them are nude or posed in sexually provocative