Re: [Gendergap] Labiaplasty

2011-09-17 Thread Emily Monroe
1. If it's so clear that the "before and after" picture is of not one but two women, what is the intention behind it being restored? I know the answers could very well be guessestimates at best at this point, but how can we figure this out? 2. If the picture is showing results of a non-medical proc

Re: [Gendergap] Labiaplasty

2011-09-17 Thread Ole Palnatoke Andersen
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Sarah wrote: ... > What really bothers me is the "before" image shows a woman within a > normal range, yet we are presenting this as something in need of > surgery. I'm concerned that young women could stumble on this and > start to doubt themselves. Somewhat rela

Re: [Gendergap] Labiaplasty

2011-09-17 Thread Sarah
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 13:00, Fred Bauder wrote: >> On 17/09/2011 20:14, Fred Bauder wrote: >>> A lot of this surgery is cosmetic surgery, thus it is a matter of >>> taste, >>> not a matter of dysfunction or normality. And, usually, is quite >>> private >>> and nobody's business. >> >>  From an a

Re: [Gendergap] Labiaplasty

2011-09-17 Thread Fred Bauder
> On 17/09/2011 20:14, Fred Bauder wrote: >> A lot of this surgery is cosmetic surgery, thus it is a matter of >> taste, >> not a matter of dysfunction or normality. And, usually, is quite >> private >> and nobody's business. > > From an average citizen's point of view, certainly. From a parent's,

Re: [Gendergap] Labiaplasty

2011-09-17 Thread Arnaud HERVE
On 17/09/2011 20:14, Fred Bauder wrote: > A lot of this surgery is cosmetic surgery, thus it is a matter of taste, > not a matter of dysfunction or normality. And, usually, is quite private > and nobody's business. From an average citizen's point of view, certainly. From a parent's, educator's o

Re: [Gendergap] Labiaplasty

2011-09-17 Thread Fred Bauder
A lot of this surgery is cosmetic surgery, thus it is a matter of taste, not a matter of dysfunction or normality. And, usually, is quite private and nobody's business. So, I don't see a problem so long as the cosmetic aspect is clear. There is a plastic surgeon who specializes in this area that h

Re: [Gendergap] Labiaplasty

2011-09-17 Thread Arnaud HERVE
On 17/09/2011 19:17, Arnaud HERVE wrote: > The woman on the right is also more muscular. I meant the woman on the left, sorry. Arnaud ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap

Re: [Gendergap] Labiaplasty

2011-09-17 Thread Arnaud HERVE
I think you are perfectly right, Sarah. The woman on the right is also more muscular. The fact that those images keep being restored shows a definite intention, which makes it not an occasional mistake but a voluntary and persistent medical lie. You are also right about the need of surgery. Fro

[Gendergap] Labiaplasty

2011-09-17 Thread Sarah
I don't know whether this is worth bothering about, but it's the kind of thing that concerns me. Anyone not wanting to look at genitalia should not click on the links. I came across [[Labiaplasty]], while looking for material on female genital mutilation. There's an image on the page of what is su