Re: [Gendergap] So this is how Commons works?

2011-09-12 Thread Fred Bauder
On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.comwrote: This is a NSFW photo http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Korean_Vulva2.jpg Five for deletion, two for keep. This is its third nomination. An admin came in today and declared it

Re: [Gendergap] So this is how Commons works?

2011-09-12 Thread Sydney Poore
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 4:32 AM, Arnaud HERVE arnaudhe...@x-mail.netwrote: On 12/09/2011 02:43, Sarah Stierch wrote: One thing Wikimedia as a whole *suffers* from is no solidity when it comes to policy and rules. Everything seems that it can be adapted, broken, changed, manipulated..etc. I

Re: [Gendergap] So this is how Commons works?

2011-09-12 Thread Sydney Poore
No, not really. The assumption is toward the uploader having the appropriate permission if it appears to be an amateur image and it has not obvious signs of being a copyright violation. People have been in disagreement about whether images that are controversial content should be be held to a

Re: [Gendergap] So this is how Commons works?

2011-09-12 Thread Sydney Poore
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 7:17 AM, Arnaud HERVE arnaudhe...@x-mail.netwrote: On 12/09/2011 12:18, Sydney Poore wrote: If you look at the full body of his work, this admin truly is trying to follow policy and the customs of Commons and WMF projects in general. Well I might have been too

Re: [Gendergap] So this is how Commons works?

2011-09-12 Thread Sydney Poore
WMF projects should be a leader in assuring that people's human rights are enforced. Right now WMF policies do not reflect best practices. But the WMF Board and staff are moving in the right direction. The problem is that the a large part of the community holds the idea of free speak as a higher

Re: [Gendergap] So this is how Commons works?

2011-09-12 Thread Sarah
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 05:52, Sydney Poore sydney.po...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 7:17 AM, Arnaud HERVE arnaudhe...@x-mail.net He reconsidered and deleted the image. Approaching an admin to reconsider is always okay.  They close dozens of deletion discussions and will sometimes

Re: [Gendergap] So this is how Commons works?

2011-09-12 Thread Sarah
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 06:50, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com wrote: Three more things that I want to state clearly based on these conversations: Commons bases identifiably on the face of an individual. While in many situations, that maybe the only way to identify an individual, when it

Re: [Gendergap] So this is how Commons works?

2011-09-11 Thread Sarah
On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 14:53, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com wrote: (And yes, I was a little snappy on my nomination (this was my original rager when I nominated a bunch of stuff from the high heels category..)...so no need to reprimand meI've curbed my 'tude!) I love your 'tude.

Re: [Gendergap] So this is how Commons works?

2011-09-11 Thread Fred Bauder
This is a NSFW photo http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Korean_Vulva2.jpg Five for deletion, two for keep. This is its third nomination. An admin came in today and declared it being kept because No valid reason for deletion, per previous decisions. Person

Re: [Gendergap] So this is how Commons works?

2011-09-11 Thread Sydney Poore
I left Yann a message on his talk page asking him to reconsider. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Yann#Korean_Vulva I sincerely hope that she did give consent and knows that it is on Commons. Otherwise we are exploiting her. I disagree that the person is not recognizable. It would be

Re: [Gendergap] So this is how Commons works?

2011-09-11 Thread Sarah Stierch
In response to Sydney's post.. Having worked in the photography industry (and been forced in front of a camera a few times in my day..) as a consultant and a make-up artist (10 years in that industry) I've written, signed, had others sign, and dealt with model release forms a million times over.

Re: [Gendergap] So this is how Commons works?

2011-09-11 Thread aude
On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.comwrote: This is a NSFW photo http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Korean_Vulva2.jpg Five for deletion, two for keep. This is its third nomination. An admin came in today and declared it

Re: [Gendergap] So this is how Commons works?

2011-09-11 Thread Nathan
On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.comwrote: In response to Sydney's post.. Having worked in the photography industry (and been forced in front of a camera a few times in my day..) as a consultant and a make-up artist (10 years in that industry) I've written,