Re: building Forrest (Was: [RT] fixing gump)

2004-10-14 Thread David Crossley
Niclas Hedhman wrote: David Crossley wrote: It seems that Gump is still using the old descriptor in our SVN. How do i get Gump to switch? The profile/gump.xml looks okay, but the last time that it was built was two days ago using the old descriptor. It doesn't look Ok in my checked out

Re: building Forrest (Was: [RT] fixing gump)

2004-10-14 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
David Crossley wrote: David Crossley wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: first of all, I think forrest should really transfer control of their descriptor to the gump project. Well, i said that we would sometime soon. I also said not now because we have an imminent release of Forrest. Our attention is

Re: building Forrest (Was: [RT] fixing gump)

2004-10-13 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Thursday 14 October 2004 13:06, David Crossley wrote: It seems that Gump is still using the old descriptor in our SVN. How do i get Gump to switch? The profile/gump.xml looks okay, but the last time that it was built was two days ago using the old descriptor. It doesn't look Ok in my

Re: [RT] fixing gump

2004-10-10 Thread David Crossley
Adam R. B. Jack wrote: A tweet from the background ... Very welcome. The email reports that nag us on Cocoon and Forrest are very hard for me to follow. (Please don't stop the nags.) I do try to decipher them and even follow through to the website. However, i inevitably give up

Re: [RT] fixing gump

2004-10-06 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 06 Oct 2004, David Crossley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How to ease the confusion, i do not know. In some way allow Gumpers a more direct way to modify your Gump descriptors 8-) Right now cocoon-lenya's (I realize that this is not yours) descriptor references project avalon which has gone many

Re: [RT] fixing gump

2004-10-06 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
A tweet from the background ... Very welcome. The email reports that nag us on Cocoon and Forrest are very hard for me to follow. (Please don't stop the nags.) I do try to decipher them and even follow through to the website. However, i inevitably give up and wait. Bummer. Can you point

Re: [RT] fixing gump

2004-10-06 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
Stefan wrote: In some way allow Gumpers a more direct way to modify your Gump descriptors 8-) You are asking for them to be moved to Gump CVS, right? If so, let's make that request clear. Right now cocoon-lenya's (I realize that this is not yours) descriptor references project avalon which

Re: [RT] fixing gump

2004-10-06 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Wed, 6 Oct 2004, Adam R. B. Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stefan wrote: In some way allow Gumpers a more direct way to modify your Gump descriptors 8-) You are asking for them to be moved to Gump CVS, right? If so, let's make that request clear. Not necessarily. Stefano proposed to

Re: [RT] fixing gump

2004-10-06 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
David Crossley wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Adam R. B. Jack wrote: snip/ Cocoon didn't build 'cos (1) we'd not got enough folks caring about gump successes (2) we didn't build from repository (and cocoon has lots of dependencies, so it's chances of a build were unlikely. FWIIW: Communities

Re: [RT] fixing gump

2004-10-05 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
Stefano wrote: look at the cocoon project. it says that it has 1 affected and 54 dependees, then the deli project (which is a package that the cocoon module exposes) has 2 affected and 1 dependee. Either there is something wrong or i don't understand what is an affected project and what

Re: [RT] fixing gump

2004-10-05 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Adam R. B. Jack wrote: Stefano wrote: look at the cocoon project. it says that it has 1 affected and 54 dependees, then the deli project (which is a package that the cocoon module exposes) has 2 affected and 1 dependee. Either there is something wrong or i don't understand what is an affected

Re: [RT] fixing gump

2004-10-05 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
Basically of the N dependees that a project could dork up, M (M=N) dependees could be affected by that project's failure (with N - M being dorked up by some earlier dependency). Do *not* ask me how we get 2 and 1. Some optimization perhaps (this determination once cost far too many cycles).

Re: [RT] fixing gump

2004-10-05 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Adam R. B. Jack wrote: Stefano wait, this does not compute: Y affects 2 (self + Z). The fact that Z was already affected should not change the situation. So look at 'dependees' and stop looking at 'affected' -- and make the dynamic webapp sort by either, or by your choice. Sure I understand your

Re: [RT] fixing gump

2004-10-05 Thread David Crossley
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Adam R. B. Jack wrote: snip/ Cocoon didn't build 'cos (1) we'd not got enough folks caring about gump successes (2) we didn't build from repository (and cocoon has lots of dependencies, so it's chances of a build were unlikely. FWIIW: Communities (many), along

Re: [RT] fixing gump

2004-10-03 Thread Leo Simons
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: This is not a rant, but constructive criticism. 1) as I mentioned already, I think that having gump (or forrest or whatever) generate static HTML pages creates more problems than it solves. I think we should move the architecture with something like this metadata -

Re: [RT] fixing gump

2004-10-03 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Leo Simons wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: This is not a rant, but constructive criticism. 1) as I mentioned already, I think that having gump (or forrest or whatever) generate static HTML pages creates more problems than it solves. I think we should move the architecture with something like

Re: [RT] fixing gump

2004-10-03 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Monday 04 October 2004 01:29, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: So, what do you guys think: should gump metadata still reside in xml files or should it reside in a database and we have a web application on top that takes care of managing it? What is known as Magic, an Ant 1.6 extension system with

Re: [RT] fixing gump

2004-10-03 Thread Leo Simons
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: So, what do you guys think: should gump metadata still reside in xml files or should it reside in a database and we have a web application on top that takes care of managing it? If we move, which is probably a good idea, I'd suggest moving over gradually. Create a

Re: [RT] fixing gump

2004-10-03 Thread Adam R. B. Jack
This is not a rant, but constructive criticism. 1) as I mentioned already, I think that having gump (or forrest or whatever) generate static HTML pages creates more problems than it solves. I think we should move the architecture with something like this metadata - gump - database -

Re: [RT] fixing gump

2004-10-03 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Monday 04 October 2004 06:04, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: well, I'm sorry but I don't get it. Gump *is* querying the metadata for each module. If you choose to encode your data in a different way and need to transform it to the gump markup format, that's your problem. AFAIU, Gump doesn't tell

[RT] fixing gump

2004-10-02 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
This is not a rant, but constructive criticism. 1) as I mentioned already, I think that having gump (or forrest or whatever) generate static HTML pages creates more problems than it solves. I think we should move the architecture with something like this metadata - gump - database - jenny -