Re: [VOTE] Graduate Bigtop podling from Apache Incubator

2012-09-14 Thread Patrick Hunt
+1 Patrick On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > This is a call for vote to graduate Bigtop podling from Apache Incubator > > The Apache Bigtop project entered incubator in June of 2011. Since then we > have grown the community in users and contributors, and we've made > sig

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Bigtop podling from Apache Incubator

2012-09-14 Thread Bhandarkar, Milind
+1. At EMC/Greenplum, we have been using BigTop extensively as a build framework for our 1000-node Analytics Workbench Cluster. - Milind --- Milind Bhandarkar Chief Scientist, Machine Learning Platforms, Greenplum, A Division of EMC On 9/12/12 9:08 AM, "Roman Shaposhnik" wrote: >This is a ca

Re: Wave: A Shepherd's View

2012-09-14 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Upayavira wrote: > I have been pointing out that the ability to release correctly is what > the incubator PMC wants to see, rather than a technically valid or > useful release. That said, a release that is full of holes might > actually have the counter-intuit

Re: Wave: A Shepherd's View

2012-09-14 Thread Upayavira
This is precisely what is currently being discussed. In fact, we have a new volunteer (Angus Turner) who is helping get things in order, with large header correcting patches. I have been pointing out that the ability to release correctly is what the incubator PMC wants to see, rather than a techni

Re: September Reports

2012-09-14 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Franklin, Matthew B. wrote: > Apologies. Yesterday turned out to be impractical for me. I have finished > my reviews and posted to the wiki & list. No worries, and thanks for finding the time for the reviews! With all podling reports now reviewed I'll pro

Re: September Reports

2012-09-14 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 1:46 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: > However, both have a disturbing hole in the IP department; the second > date is not there. (I've quoted this from Flex). Good catch. That's just a missing status page update for Cordova, the IP review is complete and all the license

Re: Openmeetings - A Shepherd's View

2012-09-14 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 1:46 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: >I checked: > - Mailing lists and from it the community looks active to a good > extent both on the users and developers lists > - Last report (June 2012) they were in the 'No Release' group of > podlings but they managed to get

Re: Openmeetings - A Shepherd's View

2012-09-14 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
Hi Benson... On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > Does anyone seriously believe that IP notices are required in files like > these? > > These files cannot be copyrighted because they do not have any > 'creative' content. If they can't be copyrighted, they can't be > license

Re: Openmeetings - A Shepherd's View

2012-09-14 Thread Benson Margulies
Does anyone seriously believe that IP notices are required in files like these? These files cannot be copyrighted because they do not have any 'creative' content. If they can't be copyrighted, they can't be licensed. And, even it were otherwise, the notices at the top of the tree are sufficient. T

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Bigtop podling from Apache Incubator

2012-09-14 Thread Arvind Prabhakar
[X] +1 Graduate Bigtop podling from Apache Incubator Regards, Arvind Prabhakar On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 3:04 PM, sebb wrote: > >> X. Establish the Apache Bigtop Project > >> > >>WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in

Re: [VOTE] Apache Crunch (incubating) 0.3.0 Release Candidate 1

2012-09-14 Thread Josh Wills
Hi all, After 72 hours, the vote for Crunch 0.3.0 RC1 passes with 4 IPMC +1 votes, 3 non-binding +1 votes, and no 0 or -1 votes. +1 (IPMC/binding): * Patrick Hunt (On crunch-dev mailing list) * Doug Cutting * Tom White * Arun Murthy +1 (non-binding): * Josh Wills (On crunch-dev mailing list) * M

[ANNOUNCE] Apache Bloodhound 0.1.0 incubating Released

2012-09-14 Thread Gary Martin
The Apache Bloodhound (Incubating) team is pleased to announce the availability of the Apache Bloodhound 0.1.0-incubating release. Apache Bloodhound is a project to provide a tool to track progress and defects in projects, with a primary focus on software projects. Standing on the shoulders of

Re: Openmeetings - A Shepherd's View

2012-09-14 Thread dsh
Well I think Maven allows to create both Eclipse and IDEA IntelliJ projects including metdata artifacts such as .classpath files... Cheers Daniel On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Alexei Fedotov wrote: > The most useful file containing the project classpath is only formatted > automatically, it c

RE: September Reports

2012-09-14 Thread Franklin, Matthew B.
>-Original Message- >From: Franklin, Matthew B. [mailto:mfrank...@mitre.org] >Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 11:58 AM >To: general@incubator.apache.org >Subject: RE: September Reports > >>-Original Message- >>From: Jukka Zitting [mailto:jukka.zitt...@gmail.com] >>Sent: Thursday,

NPanday: A Shepherd's View

2012-09-14 Thread Franklin, Matthew B.
I am concerned about the level of engagement of the community. The vast majority of mail traffic has been from automated build failures and even a question from a potential user saw no response from the committers/PPMC. IMHO, there needs to be a significant increase in engagement over time bef

Wave: A Shepherd's View

2012-09-14 Thread Franklin, Matthew B.
Is there anything that could be released, even in alpha/beta form? Code completeness or maturity is not a barrier to graduation so long as the community can demonstrate an understanding of the Apache release process. IMO, it is best to get early, alpha releases out on a regular basis. You don

Isis: A Shepherd's View

2012-09-14 Thread Franklin, Matthew B.
Good report. Two questions/comments: - Why not just propose the committers and see what the PPMC thinks before holding an official vote? Is there a reason for waiting? - The incubator status page needs to be completed. It appears that more has happened than the page reflects.

Re: Openmeetings - A Shepherd's View

2012-09-14 Thread Alexei Fedotov
The most useful file containing the project classpath is only formatted automatically, it cannot be generated without project-specific knowledge. There is no techical problem to drop these files, yet developers who download our source release loose a useful code navigation tool without these files

Re: Openmeetings - A Shepherd's View

2012-09-14 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Sep 14, 2012, at 5:02 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: > > But can we add ASL headers to files which are defined and considered > to be, even structure wise (please correct me if I am wrong), under > the license of Eclipse ? > If they are build artifacts (like stuff created by autoconf for

Re: Openmeetings - A Shepherd's View

2012-09-14 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
Hi Daniel... On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:11 AM, dsh wrote: > @Mohammad: And btw, in reference to that big (blue) company, I'd say > your statement is hearsay and needs to be proofed. For instance why is > that very big (blue) company adding their own, proprietary license > header to such generated

Re: Openmeetings - A Shepherd's View

2012-09-14 Thread dsh
The more practical and pragmatic question to pose is: why would you want to add license headers to generated files. You would have to take care of that they won't disappear each time the file (e.g. .classpath) is getting re-generated. Again from a practical point of view a mentoring suggestion coul

Re: Openmeetings - A Shepherd's View

2012-09-14 Thread dsh
@Mohammad: And btw, in reference to that big (blue) company, I'd say your statement is hearsay and needs to be proofed. For instance why is that very big (blue) company adding their own, proprietary license header to such generated files and in one way or another even Java files are Eclipse-generat

Re: Openmeetings - A Shepherd's View

2012-09-14 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
Hi Marcel... On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Marcel Offermans wrote: > On Sep 14, 2012, at 10:24 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din > wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 4:24 AM, Alexei Fedotov >> wrote: >>> 14.09.2012 3:46 пользователь "Mohammad Nour El-Din" >>> написал: One minor note: - In

Re: Openmeetings - A Shepherd's View

2012-09-14 Thread Marcel Offermans
On Sep 14, 2012, at 10:24 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: > On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 4:24 AM, Alexei Fedotov > wrote: >> 14.09.2012 3:46 пользователь "Mohammad Nour El-Din" >> написал: >>> One minor note: >>> - In [1] I noticed files related to Eclipse like .classpath and >>> .project, I am not

Re: Openmeetings - A Shepherd's View

2012-09-14 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
Hi Alexei... On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 4:24 AM, Alexei Fedotov wrote: > Hello Mohammad, thank you for the review. > > Eclipse can be considered as an alternative build system, so these files > are like build.xml files. Why not to keep them in release? > 14.09.2012 3:46 пользователь "Mohammad Nour E