It would be nice if everybody would started wearing their Apache hats and act
as individuals that are interested in joining an exciting new project in the
incubator. I would prefer it if everybody would assume good intentions here.
We're all collaborating out in the open as a community, so
Apache is community over code, but here is more like code over community.
As a community we should be able to tolerate the conflicts of interest.
Once the project is incubated in Apache, the project belongs to Apache
and direction and future of the project should be decided by the
community, not
A true open source contributor does not have a CEO, and takes the
personal judgements not what CEO or someone asked you to do.
Deepal
I was actually looking forward to contributing for this project where ever
possible but I think people have misunderstood our intentions. As requested
by my
If a podling steadfastly refused to add any other committers, then I think its
mentors would try to explain why that's a bad thing, and if that behaviour
continued, then the incubator would vote against graduating it.
On 2013-09-25, at 2:12 AM, Deepal jayasinghe deep...@gmail.com wrote:
That's a really nice world Marcel. I'd love to believe that again. However
people will still have ill intentions even here at Apache. Just because we
say all these good things does not mean everyone feels the same way and
economics does rear it's ugly face.
Just look and see the control with
Stop talking and start contributing.
Show your commitment by contributing.
Show the present community who has worked on it for 2 years that you
understand their software and care enough to spend the time applying it.
This way when if your CEO says get out, you'll be like GTFO I value and I
Baldr is fine with me, my only concern is the similarity to Apache Buildr.
Tammo
Am 25.09.2013 01:18 schrieb Olivier Lamy ol...@apache.org:
So what about Baldr?
BTW we can start incubation using Monitoring then change the name for TLP?
WDYT?
On 21 September 2013 06:30, Christian Grobmeier
On 09/25/2013 09:21 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
Baldr is fine with me, my only concern is the similarity to Apache Buildr.
Just a heads up from infra; baldr.apache.org is already very much a
thing, and has been for more than five years. If it can be avoided, we'd
really appreciate it if we can
On Sep 25, 2013, at 12:39 AM, Joseph Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
All things
considered, would it be better if Sanjiva and colleagues
ASKED to be included in the proposal instead of just adding
themselves in an ad hoc fashion?
Which is exactly what they did. They expressed an
I also see thor is being used by infra:
status.apache.org
(mentioning, because it has been proposed as name too).
However, it's not so bad. I actually mixed up Baldur with Heimdall, who
is the actual protector of Bifröst. Baldur was more known because he
was able to return from Hel (sounds
Why not try Celtic mythology I was thinking Apache Nechtan due to the
association with access to knowledge and floods... but heck I am not good
on my Irish mythology and the Norse ones always sounded way cooler
On 25 September 2013 13:23, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
I
Dear Incubator,
The VXQuery podling is currently stalled at being able to add a new
committer who has undergone a vote with all existing committers in favor
and the individual has accepted to join the community. However, we are
currently stuck at being able to make progress on the
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 7:24 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana sanj...@wso2.comwrote:
SNIP ...
Time to get past this and get the project going!
If we could have gotten here without the diversion, then the vote would not
have been derailed as it was.
I will not offer to mentor
nor will WSO2 commit
Hi Vinayak, I offered to help mentor if necessary when VXQuery came up a
few weeks ago so i can help with this. I'll go have a look at whats going
on and help.
...ant
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Vinayak Borkar vinay...@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Incubator,
The VXQuery podling is
How do we go about changing the Incubator Proposal Guide so that the rules
around adding new committers to a podling at proposal time? As much fun as
a good email thread can be, we don't want to have to relive the same ones
over and over.
Can we come up with a consensus view and get it into the
On Sep 25, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Dave snoopd...@gmail.com wrote:
Here's what I think we should add:
After a proposal is submitted to the incubator but before a vote is called
the proposing community may choose to add additional committers who ask to
be committers or may chose to defer adding
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@apache.org wrote:
On Sep 25, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Dave snoopd...@gmail.com wrote:
Here's what I think we should add:
After a proposal is submitted to the incubator but before a vote is
called
the proposing community may choose to add
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:24 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@apache.org wrote:
On Sep 25, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Dave snoopd...@gmail.com wrote:
Here's what I think we should add:
After a proposal is submitted to the incubator but before a vote is
called
the proposing community may choose to add
Thanks Sanjiva. I'm glad we we able to get things sorted out. And, thanks
to everybody who gave us feedback and +1 votes.
Since Usergrid is in need, I'd like to volunteer to be the champion.
Since this is a change to the proposal I think we should edit the proposal
and then I will nominate as
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:41 PM, Dave snoopd...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Sanjiva. I'm glad we we able to get things sorted out. And, thanks
to everybody who gave us feedback and +1 votes.
Since Usergrid is in need, I'd like to volunteer to be the champion.
I'm good with that.
Since this
No. A new vote is required.
On Sep 25, 2013, at 1:41 PM, Dave snoopd...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Sanjiva. I'm glad we we able to get things sorted out. And, thanks
to everybody who gave us feedback and +1 votes.
Since Usergrid is in need, I'd like to volunteer to be the champion.
Since
Since Usergrid is in need, I'd like to volunteer to be the champion.
+1 on Dave championing.
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Dave snoopd...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Sanjiva. I'm glad we we able to get things sorted out. And, thanks
to everybody who gave us feedback and +1 votes.
Since
Alex, you are constantly mixing up expectations of PMCs
and podlings. Plus, since the ASF did not watch how Usergrid
was handled when it was external, we (the ASF) has no idea
how meritocratic it was... in fact, and I'm sorry to say
this, the viciousness of all this leads me to wonder just
what
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On Sep 25, 2013, at 11:22 PM, Alex Karasulu akaras...@apache.org wrote:
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:41 PM, Dave snoopd...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Sanjiva. I'm
Hi,
note that one of the WSO2 engineers has already started participating
on the usergrid-dev list with some (small) patches.
So relax a bit, and give people some time to read the existing
docs/code and start interacting with the existing community.
Continuing to escalate this topic is not
I was under the impression that what you describe was the policy - if it is
not then is should certainly be clarified.
In the event that podlings continue to or are to be given such a choice, I
believe that there needs to be a clear understanding between the incoming
community and those
Hi Luciano,
2013/9/24 Luciano Resende luckbr1...@gmail.com:
Is there any written policy that states that ? I have never heard that the
ASF can't have binary artifacts as official releases ?
It's because Apache releases open source and ONLY open source. [1]
to quote Roy.
[1]
On Sep 25, 2013, at 3:54 AM, Lieven Govaerts lieven.govae...@gmail.com wrote:
and that the incubator
promotes this as 'the right thing to do' (which I didn''t know until
now).
Because it's NOT true. The right thing to do is what the
podling determines; the whole problem was with uncontrolled
Hi Dave,
This topic actually did make it into the incubator guides but it's a bit hard
to find it. From
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/participation.html#committer:
When a proposal is just a candidate, there are two possible approaches (for
those interested in committership).
The
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:22 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote:
On Sep 25, 2013, at 3:54 AM, Lieven Govaerts lieven.govae...@gmail.com
wrote:
and that the incubator
promotes this as 'the right thing to do' (which I didn''t know until
now).
Because it's NOT true. The right
Sorry this went out accidentally ...
I'm going to pull out as a mentor and as a committer.
Thanks,
Alex
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 1:05 AM, Alex Karasulu akaras...@apache.org wrote:
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:22 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote:
On Sep 25, 2013, at 3:54 AM, Lieven
My username is DaveJohnson
Thanks!
- Dave
see also: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ContributorsGroup
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Dave snoopd...@gmail.com wrote:
My username is DaveJohnson
Done.
Marvin Humphrey
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Thx
debo
On 9/25/13 1:36 PM, Dave snoopd...@gmail.com wrote:
My username is DaveJohnson
Thanks!
- Dave
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Done.
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Done.
Marvin Humphrey
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ATTENTION
I have rejected this announcement from the annou...@apache.org list.
It does NOT clearly state that this project is in the Incubator. That
disclaimer MUST be on all prominent announcements.
Look at:
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html
That specifies the requirements
Greg,
Our apologies for missing it. We've sent out a corrected announcement that
clearly states that this is the first incubating release of Apache Sentry.
It also has the required disclaimer. We'll be more diligent in the future.
Regards,
Shreepadma
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Greg Stein
Thanks. I saw and (already) approved the corrected announcement.
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Shreepadma Venugopalan
shreepa...@apache.org wrote:
Greg,
Our apologies for missing it. We've sent out a corrected announcement that
clearly states that this is the first incubating release of
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Cory Johns john...@gmail.com wrote:
Marvin,
We've been having some discussion and I'd just like to clarify something
you said:
Any artifact that is being distributed through Apache channels is
supposed to adhere to our policies.
Does this mean that as long
-1.
The PGP signatures are good, but the .md5 and .sha1 checksums do not
include '*filename', so I get:
$ md5sum -c mrql-bin-dist-0.9.0-incubating.tar.gz.md5
md5sum: mrql-bin-dist-0.9.0-incubating.tar.gz.md5: no properly
formatted MD5 checksum lines found
You'll need to manually create .md5
Greets,
Here's the timeline for the Incubator's October 2013 report, which is also
available on the wiki page:
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/October2013
Wed October 2 -- Podling reports due by end of day
Sun October 6 -- Shepherd reviews due by end of day
Sun October 6 --
Edward,
I don't think this is a blocker.
Some incubator releases have used the Maven staging repo as the only
release candidate artifact.
Example: Apache Onami Parent 3-incubating:
http://markmail.org/message/ka2rpmbcplhxiiu5
If the Maven staging on Nexus cannot be used like this, it should be
I propose that this then be seen as a learning experience and determine
what questions a champion needs to ask of the mentors and incoming
community on the outset in order to execute.
This has been an unfortunate bit of thrashing that was avoidable through
communication. That is not to say that
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