Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Emmanuel Lécharny
Le 11/03/15 21:20, Martijn Dashorst a écrit : Great initiative! Just one question: I don't see anything related to the groovy name and possible trademark in the proposal. Does Pivotal have any claims to the name groovy, and if so are those claims transferred to the ASF? I think we have

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread jan i
Hi. Having just skimmed the proposal, that in general look good, one thing caught my eye. The proposal talks several places about a vibrant community and the initial commiters are only 5. I am not raising it as a problem, just would like a little explanation. I think the project would fit

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 12:08 PM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote: Hi. Having just skimmed the proposal, that in general look good, one thing caught my eye. The proposal talks several places about a vibrant community and the initial commiters are only 5. This, is a GREAT question! Thank you so

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Jochen Theodorou
Am 12.03.2015 10:57, schrieb Bertrand Delacretaz: Hi, On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 8:08 PM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote: ...The proposal talks several places about a vibrant community and the initial commiters are only 5... As others have said this was discussed while preparing the proposal. I

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Benedikt Ritter
My feeling is, that there this proposal has a positive feedback overall. How about we put together a list of things that have to be changed/resolved in the proposal before a vote can be started? I see: - trademark issues - Explanation of initial committers to community ratio what else? Benedikt

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 3:14 AM, Jochen Theodorou blackd...@gmx.org wrote: Am 12.03.2015 10:57, schrieb Bertrand Delacretaz: Hi, On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 8:08 PM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote: ...The proposal talks several places about a vibrant community and the initial commiters are only

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Paul King
I would have thought that graduation would be all about showing that whatever list of committers we have (big or small) is working well? Having a large number of committers certainly makes sense with a subversion mindset but it's possibly an anti-pattern with a DVCS mindset (at least for a

question about GSoC

2015-03-12 Thread ??????
Dear Sir/Madam: Hope this e-mail finds you well. I am a student who is going to participate the 2015 GSoC. I am a student of Dr. Li Dingcheng who is a PMC member of ASF. I want him to be my mentor and we are going to develop the Coreference Resolution with java. It will be very kind of you

Re: question about GSoC

2015-03-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 12:57 PM, 李璋华 david_...@foxmail.com wrote: ...I am a student who is going to participate the 2015 GSoC. I am a student of Dr. Li Dingcheng who is a PMC member of ASF. I want him to be my mentor... You need to talk to the developers list of the project in question.

Re: [CANCEL] [VOTE] Release Apache Slider 0.70.0-incubating

2015-03-12 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Gour Saha gs...@hortonworks.com wrote: Marvin, That totally makes sense. I am going to cancel this release and prepare a new RC with the fixes. I will call it 0.70.1-incubating and start the vote all over again. Thank you. And thank you, Gour, for your

[CANCEL] [VOTE] Release Apache Slider 0.70.0-incubating

2015-03-12 Thread Gour Saha
Marvin, That totally makes sense. I am going to cancel this release and prepare a new RC with the fixes. I will call it 0.70.1-incubating and start the vote all over again. Thank you. -Gour On 3/12/15, 7:02 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 6:36 PM,

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Slider 0.70.0-incubating

2015-03-12 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 6:36 PM, Gour Saha gs...@hortonworks.com wrote: Is it okay if we move them to a more appropriate location like src/test/resources directory? Or should we just delete them? Here's the rationale, redux: The Apache Software Foundation releases open source software.

RE: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I think the business about numbers of committers and how additions to the community are cultivated is a sniff test concerning sustainability. The idea is to have some sense that there is a sustainable community in place and that there is as much attention on nurturing that sustainability as

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote: ...Easy: we reach out to all the folks who may have a legitimate claim to have contributed to the project in substantial ways and ivite extend an offer to them (explaining that being a committer is...well... a

Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache Singa as incubator project

2015-03-12 Thread Daniel Dai
+1 On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 7:33 AM, Thejas Nair thejas.n...@gmail.com wrote: The Singa Incubator Proposal document has been updated based on feedback in the proposal thread. This vote is proposing the inclusion of Apache Singa as incubator project. The vote will run for at least 72 hours.

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Daniel Kulp
On Mar 12, 2015, at 8:51 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Jochen Wiedmann jochen.wiedm...@gmail.com wrote: ... I am quite certain, most Incubator members would accept a project to have a vibrant community, if the project could show,

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 10:13 AM, Cédric Champeau cedric.champ...@gmail.com wrote: I made this remark to myself, which is that too many people still think that Groovy is only a dynamic language. I think it's a problem because it's not, and some people really dislike dynamic languages. When they

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Jochen Theodorou
Am 12.03.2015 17:21, schrieb Ted Dunning: On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:04 AM, Jochen Wiedmann jochen.wiedm...@gmail.com wrote: * several writers of documentation (without committer privileges) * one or two creators of graphics (icons, or whatever, without committer privileges) * one or

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Cédric Champeau
On 12/03/2015 17:53, Daniel Kulp wrote: On Mar 12, 2015, at 8:51 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Jochen Wiedmann jochen.wiedm...@gmail.com wrote: ... I am quite certain, most Incubator members would accept a project to have a vibrant

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Cédric Champeau
On 12/03/2015 18:19, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 10:13 AM, Cédric Champeau cedric.champ...@gmail.com wrote: I made this remark to myself, which is that too many people still think that Groovy is only a dynamic language. I think it's a problem because it's not, and some

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Slider 0.70.0-incubating

2015-03-12 Thread Steve Loughran
On 11 Mar 2015, at 13:43, Gour Saha gs...@hortonworks.com wrote: Hello, This is a call for a vote for releasing Apache Slider 0.70.0-incubating. This is a source+binary release with one .tar file (appdef_1.tar), which is a text file used for -ve testing. Summary of fixes:

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Jochen Theodorou
Am 12.03.2015 18:15, schrieb Roman Shaposhnik: […] In short: * blocking proposal on the # of initial committers -- no, or at least I don't think so. * killing ourselves over reaching every single contributor on GH -- no. * doing a reasonable due diligence *while incubating* on

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Jochen Theodorou blackd...@gmx.org wrote: Am 12.03.2015 17:21, schrieb Ted Dunning: On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:04 AM, Jochen Wiedmann jochen.wiedm...@gmail.com wrote: * several writers of documentation (without committer privileges) * one or two

RE: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
+1 See C030 on our project maturity model http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html And some commentary on committer = someone who is committed rather than someone who commits code https://community.apache.org/contributors/ Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Cédric Champeau
I made this remark to myself, which is that too many people still think that Groovy is only a dynamic language. I think it's a problem because it's not, and some people really dislike dynamic languages. When they read something like the Groovy dynamic object-oriented programming language (from

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Slider 0.70.0-incubating

2015-03-12 Thread Billie Rinaldi
+1 binding On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Gour Saha gs...@hortonworks.com wrote: Hello, This is a call for a vote for releasing Apache Slider 0.70.0-incubating. This is a source+binary release with one .tar file (appdef_1.tar), which is a text file used for -ve testing. Summary of

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Benedikt Ritter
2015-03-12 16:27 GMT+01:00 Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org: On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote: ...Easy: we reach out to all the folks who may have a legitimate claim to have contributed to the project in substantial ways and ivite

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Ted Dunning
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:04 AM, Jochen Wiedmann jochen.wiedm...@gmail.com wrote: * several writers of documentation (without committer privileges) * one or two creators of graphics (icons, or whatever, without committer privileges) * one or more organizations providing hosting

Re: [APPROVE] The March MRQL report

2015-03-12 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
Crikey, this went into my junk mail folder. Signed off. Regards, Alan On Mar 7, 2015, at 6:04 AM, Leonidas Fegaras fega...@cse.uta.edu wrote: Dear MRQL mentors, This is a reminder to approve the MRQL report. Please edit it and approve it at: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/March2015

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: It is my pleasure and privilege to open up the following proposal: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/GroovyProposal I've read through the proposal (rev 17). It looks good to me. FWIW I winced a bit on Apache Pig's

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: It is my pleasure and privilege to open up the following proposal: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/GroovyProposal Thanks Roman, the proposal looks great and I am super happy to see Groovy in these lands! As the

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Jochen Wiedmann jochen.wiedm...@gmail.com wrote: ... I am quite certain, most Incubator members would accept a project to have a vibrant community, if the project could show, for example,... Note that we don't care about the state of the community when entering

Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache Singa as incubator project

2015-03-12 Thread Thejas Nair
Thanks for the feedback Bertrand! Yes, I agree it makes sense to start with a single user and dev mailing list. I got this feedback during the proposal phase, but I forgot to update the proposal. On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 2:42 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Mar 10,

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Slider 0.70.0-incubating

2015-03-12 Thread Justin Mclean
HI, It's -1 binding from me as there are binary files (dll's and exe's!) in the source release (in both the .zip and tar.gz). Was rat run over the release? It seems a little strange the release got this far without anyone noticing that. Here are the offending files:

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Jochen Theodorou
Am 12.03.2015 12:04, schrieb Jochen Wiedmann: Hello, Jochen, On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Jochen Theodorou community equals committers? No. The community is more than the team of committers. I'm sure you understand. OTOH, the set of committers can be considered a representation of the

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Jochen Theodorou blackd...@gmx.org wrote: Am 12.03.2015 10:57, schrieb Bertrand Delacretaz: it's fine to include only the core Groovy committers to enter incubation, as usual it will be their task to grow that community before graduating. community

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 8:08 PM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote: ...The proposal talks several places about a vibrant community and the initial commiters are only 5... As others have said this was discussed while preparing the proposal. I also agree that it's fine to include only the core

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-12 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Hello, Jochen, On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Jochen Theodorou community equals committers? No. The community is more than the team of committers. I'm sure you understand. OTOH, the set of committers can be considered a representation of the community. I am quite certain, most Incubator

Wave community may need our help

2015-03-12 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Hi! all throughout my tenure I was keeping an eye on Wave trying to figure out how we can help that community. The poddling has been incubating close to 5 years and for a long time they've struggled with the basics of producing the release and growing the community beyond its core. I was

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Slider 0.70.0-incubating

2015-03-12 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, I notice the binaries in question are in version control as well [1] which is highly unusual. This seem to be related to this [2], I also note it doest't look like vote for Hadoop 2.6 RC0 passed but RC1 did. [3]. Any else have concerns about this? Thanks, Justin 1.

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Slider 0.70.0-incubating

2015-03-12 Thread Gour Saha
Hi Justin, Thank you for your time. These files are test resources to make tests work on Jenkins on a windows machine - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SLIDER-201 The readme.md located below also gives a little info but I just realized that it is incomplete -