Re: This problem of mine

2009-05-15 Thread Brian Fox
What I don't get is why would anyone want to keep the name if there are potential overlaps or troubles ahead? My thoughts exactly. I mean, there are probably better (coding) and harder (releasing, graduating) things to do than getting stuck about the name. Why don't you (as a podling)

Re: This problem of mine

2009-05-14 Thread Santiago Gala
El mié, 13-05-2009 a las 00:33 +0200, Emmanuel Lecharny escribió: Bernd Fondermann wrote: JSecurity was deemed as a potential naming conflict risk (much in the same way Ki is now), so we dropped it, and finally came to a vote to change the name to Ki. But this resolution took over 4 or 5

Re: This problem of mine

2009-05-13 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Les Hazlewood lhazlew...@apache.org wrote: ...if the Incubator says the Ki podling must change its name, then fine, we'll be happy to do so, but most of us didn't want to spend the effort worrying about it unless necessary If that can help, I'm happy to

Re: This problem of mine

2009-05-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: ...I'd like someone to come up with a concise argument that would allow me to let this go other than nope, it's not the same.  Otherwise, I feel that I need to bring up a vote to put the issue to bed once and for

Re: This problem of mine

2009-05-12 Thread Emmanuel Lecharny
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: ...I'd like someone to come up with a concise argument that would allow me to let this go other than nope, it's not the same. Otherwise, I feel that I need to bring up a vote to put the

Re: This problem of mine

2009-05-12 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
On May 12, 2009, at 9:06 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: ...I'd like someone to come up with a concise argument that would allow me to let this go other than nope, it's not the same. Otherwise, I feel that I

Re: This problem of mine

2009-05-12 Thread Craig L Russell
On May 12, 2009, at 10:56 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: On May 12, 2009, at 9:06 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: ...I'd like someone to come up with a concise argument that would allow me to let this go other than

Re: This problem of mine

2009-05-12 Thread Les Hazlewood
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.comwrote: On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: ...I'd like someone to come up with a concise argument that would allow me to let this go other than nope, it's not the same. Otherwise,

Re: This problem of mine

2009-05-12 Thread Craig L Russell
On May 12, 2009, at 11:22 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: On May 12, 2009, at 11:12 AM, Craig L Russell wrote: On May 12, 2009, at 10:56 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: On May 12, 2009, at 9:06 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com

Re: This problem of mine

2009-05-12 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 21:46, Craig L Russell craig.russ...@sun.com wrote: On May 12, 2009, at 11:22 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: On May 12, 2009, at 11:12 AM, Craig L Russell wrote: On May 12, 2009, at 10:56 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: On May 12, 2009, at 9:06 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz

Re: This problem of mine

2009-05-12 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Craig L Russell craig.russ...@sun.com wrote: The main point is that you and I disagree on whether FixFlyer Ki and Apache Ki are in the same domain. I have neither broad nor deep experience with securities trading systems, but I do know what financial

Re: This problem of mine

2009-05-12 Thread Les Hazlewood
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Bernd Fondermann bernd.fonderm...@googlemail.com wrote: What I don't get is why would anyone want to keep the name if there are potential overlaps or troubles ahead? I mean, there are probably better (coding) and harder (releasing, graduating) things to do

Re: This problem of mine

2009-05-12 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 22:58, Les Hazlewood lhazlew...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Bernd Fondermann bernd.fonderm...@googlemail.com wrote: What I don't get is why would anyone want to keep the name if there are potential overlaps or troubles ahead? I mean, there are

Re: This problem of mine

2009-05-12 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Les Hazlewood lhazlew...@apache.org wrote: How do you check to ensure that the name is actually usable?  We did a lot of due diligence on Ki, checked USPTO searches for patents/trademarks on Ki and found not a single result, and performed lots of google

Re: This problem of mine

2009-05-12 Thread Emmanuel Lecharny
Bernd Fondermann wrote: JSecurity was deemed as a potential naming conflict risk (much in the same way Ki is now), so we dropped it, and finally came to a vote to change the name to Ki. But this resolution took over 4 or 5 months to finally come to a favorable vote, so we didn't want to go