Re: [VOTE] Do not accept software grants with conditionals or exclusions

2017-09-08 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 6:07 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > I don't have a vote here, but I"m now confused about what problem is being > solved As Craig indicates, the goal is to reject ambigous grants, which require interpretation to figure out what's actually being

Re: [VOTE] Do not accept software grants with conditionals or exclusions

2017-09-08 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Craig, On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 9:10 PM, Craig Russell wrote: > ...I do not intend to accept any more such overly ambiguous grants Ok, so you think this vote is not needed? That's fine with me as long as we have a mechanism to avoid ambiguous grants in the future.

Re: [VOTE] Do not accept software grants with conditionals or exclusions

2017-09-07 Thread Craig Russell
-1 for an overly broad restriction that needs a bit of discretion. The situation that caused this issue to be raised is that a grant was made of a specific set of files contained in a .zip archive. That set of files contained no non-donated IP. The issue is that the grant had a list of excluded

Re: [VOTE] Do not accept software grants with conditionals or exclusions

2017-09-07 Thread Alex Harui
I don't have a vote here, but I"m now confused about what problem is being solved. Is it, as Stian says, that an entity is being lazy and did not attempt to review the contents of the grant before donating? I thought the goal is to just keep folks from bothering us with additional language on

Re: [VOTE] Do not accept software grants with conditionals or exclusions

2017-09-07 Thread Sebastian
+1 On 07.09.2017 10:32, Ted Dunning wrote: +1 On Sep 7, 2017 10:11, "Jacques Le Roux" wrote: +1 (not binding, not part of IPMC) Jacques Le 07/09/2017 à 10:07, Bertrand Delacretaz a écrit : Hi Incubator PMC. We recently received a software grant pointing

Re: [VOTE] Do not accept software grants with conditionals or exclusions

2017-09-07 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 12:07 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> wrote: > ...Considering that the IPMC is not the one who accepts software grants, what > is your goal here?... Grants are received and accepted by the ASF's secretary, right? Or what do you have in mind? Anyway, t

Re: [VOTE] Do not accept software grants with conditionals or exclusions

2017-09-07 Thread John D. Ament
Bertrand, Considering that the IPMC is not the one who accepts software grants, what is your goal here? John On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 4:08 AM Bertrand Delacretaz <bdelacre...@apache.org> wrote: > Hi Incubator PMC. > > We recently received a software grant pointing to

Re: [VOTE] Do not accept software grants with conditionals or exclusions

2017-09-07 Thread Mark Struberg
+1 (binding) LieGrue, strub > Am 07.09.2017 um 10:07 schrieb Bertrand Delacretaz : > > Hi Incubator PMC. > > We recently received a software grant pointing to an archive file for > the code donation, but mentioning that some material contained in that > archive might

Re: [VOTE] Do not accept software grants with conditionals or exclusions

2017-09-07 Thread Stian Soiland-Reyes
+1 However it should be OK (and perhaps even encouraged) for the archive to list in NOTICE or similar that some of the files are not legally owned by the donating entity, for instance other open source files that have been used – legally they can’t be part of the IP grant (unless the donating

Re: [VOTE] Do not accept software grants with conditionals or exclusions

2017-09-07 Thread Ted Dunning
+1 On Sep 7, 2017 10:11, "Jacques Le Roux" wrote: > +1 (not binding, not part of IPMC) > > Jacques > > > Le 07/09/2017 à 10:07, Bertrand Delacretaz a écrit : > >> Hi Incubator PMC. >> >> We recently received a software grant pointing to an archive file for >> the

Re: [VOTE] Do not accept software grants with conditionals or exclusions

2017-09-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
+1 (not binding, not part of IPMC) Jacques Le 07/09/2017 à 10:07, Bertrand Delacretaz a écrit : Hi Incubator PMC. We recently received a software grant pointing to an archive file for the code donation, but mentioning that some material contained in that archive might not be donated. This

[VOTE] Do not accept software grants with conditionals or exclusions

2017-09-07 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Incubator PMC. We recently received a software grant pointing to an archive file for the code donation, but mentioning that some material contained in that archive might not be donated. This was discussed on the PMC private list and it looks like we have consensus for rejecting such grants in

[DISCUS] Software Grants/IP Clearance (was Re: Gobblin Incubator Meetup/Video Conference)

2017-07-20 Thread John D. Ament
Hi, On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 12:52 AM Olivier Lamy wrote: > Hi, > So moving forward on Gobblin, (yeah finally software grant bottleneck > unlock!!). > I'm glad you've mentioned this subject. TBH, based on some of the discussions that have happened on list, I'm a bit confused

Re: Software Grants for GitHub Projects...

2015-02-02 Thread Hadrian Zbarcea
Matt, you're saying the same thing, except it's not one individual but two [1] (spmallette + okram) , who own the vast majority of the IP. They also claim to be in the possession of CLAs from the other contributors. The problem was not insufficient data to substantiate claims, but TMI.

Re: Software Grants for GitHub Projects...

2015-02-02 Thread Benson Margulies
On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 4:19 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea hzbar...@gmail.com wrote: Matt, you're saying the same thing, except it's not one individual but two [1] (spmallette + okram) , who own the vast majority of the IP. They also claim to be in the possession of CLAs from the other contributors. The

Re: Software Grants for GitHub Projects...

2015-02-02 Thread Hadrian Zbarcea
On 02/01/2015 03:19 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 2:12 PM, John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org wrote: On Sun Feb 01 2015 at 1:05:10 AM Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: On 1/31/15, 9:09 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 11:32

Re: Software Grants for GitHub Projects...

2015-02-02 Thread Matt Franklin
On Mon Feb 02 2015 at 8:09:43 AM Hadrian Zbarcea hzbar...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/01/2015 03:19 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 2:12 PM, John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org wrote: On Sun Feb 01 2015 at 1:05:10 AM Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: On 1/31/15, 9:09

Re: Software Grants for GitHub Projects...

2015-02-01 Thread John D. Ament
On Sun Feb 01 2015 at 1:05:10 AM Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: On 1/31/15, 9:09 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Matt Franklin m.ben.frank...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat Jan 31 2015 at 11:22:15 AM Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com

Re: Software Grants for GitHub Projects...

2015-02-01 Thread Benson Margulies
On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 2:12 PM, John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org wrote: On Sun Feb 01 2015 at 1:05:10 AM Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: On 1/31/15, 9:09 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Matt Franklin m.ben.frank...@gmail.com wrote:

Software Grants for GitHub Projects...

2015-01-31 Thread James Carman
Is there a standard within the incubator about how we go about getting the appropriate forms filled out when we want to incubate a project from GitHub? GitHub fosters a sort of fly-by contribution model (and that's a good thing), but it makes donating the code a bit troublesome, because we need

Re: Software Grants for GitHub Projects...

2015-01-31 Thread James Carman
Are there guidelines for these usual considerations? On Saturday, January 31, 2015, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 8:44 AM, James Carman ja...@carmanconsulting.com javascript:; wrote: Is there a standard within the incubator about how we go about

Re: Software Grants for GitHub Projects...

2015-01-31 Thread Benson Margulies
On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 10:55 AM, James Carman ja...@carmanconsulting.com wrote: Are there guidelines for these usual considerations? (Queue Marvin on the subject of documentation.) http://www.apache.org/licenses/ My understanding: when a significant body of code arrives all at once, the

Re: Software Grants for GitHub Projects...

2015-01-31 Thread Matt Franklin
On Sat Jan 31 2015 at 11:22:15 AM Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 10:55 AM, James Carman ja...@carmanconsulting.com wrote: Are there guidelines for these usual considerations? (Queue Marvin on the subject of documentation.)

Re: Software Grants for GitHub Projects...

2015-01-31 Thread Benson Margulies
On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 8:44 AM, James Carman ja...@carmanconsulting.com wrote: Is there a standard within the incubator about how we go about getting the appropriate forms filled out when we want to incubate a project from GitHub? GitHub fosters a sort of fly-by contribution model (and

Re: Software Grants for GitHub Projects...

2015-01-31 Thread Benson Margulies
On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Matt Franklin m.ben.frank...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat Jan 31 2015 at 11:22:15 AM Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 10:55 AM, James Carman ja...@carmanconsulting.com wrote: Are there guidelines for these usual

Re: Software Grants for GitHub Projects...

2015-01-31 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/31/15, 9:09 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Matt Franklin m.ben.frank...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat Jan 31 2015 at 11:22:15 AM Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 10:55 AM, James Carman

Software grants

2011-08-31 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hello, can I look somehow (I am member too) in some kind of archive with the software grants or in a list which grants have been received? I was looking at one of my podlings (Zeta) and saw the copyright sections was not ticked. I would now like to check if EZ has sent it. I am not aware I could

Re: Software grants

2011-08-31 Thread Andreas Lehmkuehler
Hi, Am 31.08.2011 20:02, schrieb Christian Grobmeier: Hello, can I look somehow (I am member too) in some kind of archive with the software grants or in a list which grants have been received? I was looking at one of my podlings (Zeta) and saw the copyright sections was not ticked. I would now

[ip clearance] recording CCLA Schedule B software grants

2007-02-20 Thread Jean T. Anderson
Currently the ip clearance template [1] specifies: 3. Receipt of the software grant form must be acknowledged by an Officer of the ASF by recording in grants.txt. In most normal circumstances, the officer should be the ASF Secretary. And in the Copyright section: Identify name recorded for

Re: [ip clearance] recording CCLA Schedule B software grants

2007-02-20 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Feb 20, 2007, at 12:30 PM, Jean T. Anderson wrote: oh, hee hee, Jim already made the change to bullet 3 in revision 509668. :-) For those not on the commit notices, Jim also added: the officer should be the ASF Secretary, who must be provided an original copy of the grant or CCLA in

Re: [ip clearance] recording CCLA Schedule B software grants

2007-02-20 Thread Jean T. Anderson
Jim Jagielski wrote: ... No, a FAXed copy is fine. It's just that if someone rec's the grant, they can't just log it in the cclas.txt/grants.txt file and keep it. I need a copy as well. We need to further clarify that such docs can be accepted either by: o Hardcopy snail-mailed to

Re: Software grants Was: a few steps before approving a project

2005-09-02 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
--On September 1, 2005 10:50:53 PM -0400 Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Figuring out how the sandbox(es) and the incubator work together is increasingly flagging on my attention list. Sam's list of rules is the most concrete thing I've seen so far: * If the SVN tree was always on ASF

Software grants Was: a few steps before approving a project

2005-09-01 Thread Henri Yandell
On 9/1/05, Justin Erenkrantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --On September 1, 2005 12:28:13 PM -0400 James Carman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, does that mean that Jakarta Commons Proxy will have to go through the Incubator? Right now, it's a commons sandbox project, so it's not officially