Re: [VOTE] Accept Concerted into the Apache Incubator

+0 (binding) As we discussed in a previous thread, I have concerns about the current status of the project, both regarding implementation and community, and if incubating it now is the best for the goals of the project. On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 5:55 PM, Atri Sharma wrote: > Hi

Re: Require projects to have solid API docs

On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 11:20 PM, Julian Hyde wrote: > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 1:11 PM, Alan D. Cabrera > wrote: > > Should != Must > > Yes, I know. But I didn't want to have everyone leap into yet another > long-winded debate with no one even having

[VOTE] Release Apache REEF 0.13.0-incubating (rc1)

The Apache REEF PPMC has voted to release Apache REEF 0.13.0-incubating based on the release candidate described below. Now it is the IPMC's turn to vote. The PPMC vote passed with 5 +1 votes:

Re: [VOTE] Accept Concerted into the Apache Incubator

On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 5:55 PM, Atri Sharma wrote: > ...Following the discussion about Concerted I would like to call a vote for > accepting Concerted as a new incubator project... +1 -Bertrand - To

Mentor disengagement - a suggestion

Fellow mentors, There was a conversation at ApacheCon about the Incubator. I'll leave it to the other participants to champion the particular parts that they are passionate about, but I was particularly concerned with mentor disengagement, and suggestions for improving it. A mentor's role

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache REEF 0.13.0-incubating (rc1)

Did the usual checks; - Sigs, hash etc checks - unpacks fine - license, notice present - Things are apache licensed :) There are a few C# files missing license headers, see http://compliance.rocks/result.html?23410ea9 - but that's nothing that can't be fixed. I also saw a BSD license but no BSD

A suggestion: podling post-mortems

I'd like to make a suggestion - after a podling graduates or is terminated, the podling's mentors should be responsible for putting together a post mortem report, or an exit interview, or whatever you want to call it. This would cover the pain points in onboarding the podling, particular issues

Re: A suggestion: podling post-mortems

On 10/12/2015 10:49 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Hi, On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Andrew Bayer wrote: ...I'd like to make a suggestion - after a podling graduates or is terminated, the podling's mentors should be responsible for putting together a post mortem

Re: A suggestion: podling post-mortems

Since when is the incubation process a race that must be completed in the least amount of time? If it is, it would surely validate (for some) cutting corners and push-through actions (and associated tactics). Is that what the ASF wants or needs? Best regards, Pierre Smits *OFBiz Extensions

Re: A suggestion: podling post-mortems

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Rich Bowen wrote: >> ...It would be very welcome to have this attached to a graduation >> resolution, so that we could have some background beyond just a

[VOTE] Accept Mynewt into the Apache Incubator

Hi All, As mentioned in the DISCUSS thread, all feedback has been positive on the Mynewt proposal, so I'd like to call a VOTE to accept Mynewt as a new ASF incubator project. The full text of the proposal is available on the incubator wiki at the following URL:

Re: A suggestion: podling post-mortems

On 10/12/2015 11:55 AM, Pierre Smits wrote: Since when is the incubation process a race that must be completed in the least amount of time? If it is, it would surely validate (for some) cutting corners and push-through actions (and associated tactics). Is that what the ASF wants or needs?

Johnzon Graduation

On behalf of the Johnzon PPMC i would like to let you know that that we currently discussing about graduating Johnzon out of the Incubator. http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-johnzon-dev/201510.mbox/%3CCAPm%3DoFDF6guVNc6HS%3D2TA5iBrx2X45JvFfaFpGiT%3DHg%2BnE7s_w%40mail.gmail.com%3E

Re: A suggestion: podling post-mortems

I like this idea, +1. Tommaso 2015-10-12 13:18 GMT+02:00 Andrew Bayer : > I'd like to make a suggestion - after a podling graduates or is terminated, > the podling's mentors should be responsible for putting together a post > mortem report, or an exit interview, or

Re: [DISCUSS] Mentor neutrality policy

I understand your concern but, at present, I don't see it being an issue nor something that we need worry about. We hope and trust mentors to wear their hats well. > On Oct 9, 2015, at 11:07 AM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > > Hi Incubator folks, > > I would like to propose we

Re: [DISCUSS] Mentor neutrality policy

That work under the assumption that all Jane has to deliver is a working software. If the company is also interested in increasing its reputation by allowing their marketing department to say thing like "We initiated the Apache Foobar project", or "Apache OpenOffice natively supports our file

Re: Mentor disengagement - a suggestion

Le 12/10/15 13:18, Rich Bowen a écrit : > Fellow mentors, > > There was a conversation at ApacheCon about the Incubator. I'll leave > it to the other participants to champion the particular parts that > they are passionate about, but I was particularly concerned with > mentor disengagement, and

Re: Mentor disengagement - a suggestion

On 10/12/2015 10:10 AM, Emmanuel Lécharny wrote: Regarding inactive mentors, this is quite simple : we have a monthly report that has to be signed off by mentors, if one mentor does not sign it three time in a raw, shouldn't we consider that this mentor has already stepped down ? No, it's

Incubation capacity

Hi, It sounds like ruminations about the Incubator are on the increase again, so I figured I'd wake up from my slumber and share an insight of mine. I believe the way the Incubator is organized sets an upper bound on the number of podlings it can effectively manage. Based on experience and

Re: [DISCUSS] Mentor neutrality policy

But it is basically *core* to who and what we are. > On Oct 12, 2015, at 10:52 AM, Marko Rodriguez wrote: > > Hi, > >> We hope and trust mentors to wear their hats well. > > This quote from a colleague of mine has always stuck with me: > > "Hope is not a

Re: [DISCUSS] Mentor neutrality policy

Hi, > We hope and trust mentors to wear their hats well. This quote from a colleague of mine has always stuck with me: "Hope is not a strategy." Take care, Marko. http://markorodriguez.com > >> On Oct 9, 2015, at 11:07 AM, Daniel Gruno wrote: >> >> Hi

Re: A suggestion: podling post-mortems

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Rich Bowen wrote: > ...It would be very welcome to have this attached to a graduation > resolution, so that we could have some background beyond just a boilerplate > "time to graduate" message I agree, and IMO our maturity model [1] would

Re: Require projects to have solid API docs

Le 11/10/15 17:59, Andrew Pennebaker a écrit : > In the future, could Apache Incubator require projects to maintain better > API documentation before graduation? In particular, Kafka has rather sparse > documentation in v0.8. The Javadocs appear to be randomly hosted on this or > that professor

Re: A suggestion: podling post-mortems

Hi, On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Andrew Bayer wrote: > ...I'd like to make a suggestion - after a podling graduates or is terminated, > the podling's mentors should be responsible for putting together a post > mortem report, or an exit interview, or whatever you want

Re: [VOTE] Accept Mynewt into the Apache Incubator

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Sterling Hughes wrote: > Hi All, > > As mentioned in the DISCUSS thread, all feedback has been positive on > the Mynewt proposal, so I'd like to call a VOTE to accept Mynewt as a > new ASF incubator project. > > The full text of the proposal

Re: [VOTE] Accept Mynewt into the Apache Incubator

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Sterling Hughes wrote: > As mentioned in the DISCUSS thread, all feedback has been positive on > the Mynewt proposal, so I'd like to call a VOTE to accept Mynewt as a > new ASF incubator project. > > The full text of the proposal is available

Re: [DISCUSS] Mentor neutrality policy

The practical effect on me of this requirement would be that a) I couldn't have mentored Drill b) I couldn't have mentored Zookeeper (assuming it were to come along now) c) I couldn't mentor Kylin (it affects Drill and MapR customers are considering using it) d) I couldn't mentor Calcite (same

Re: [VOTE] Accept Mynewt into the Apache Incubator

> On Oct 12, 2015, at 12:04 PM, Sterling Hughes wrote: > > Hi All, > > As mentioned in the DISCUSS thread, all feedback has been positive on > the Mynewt proposal, so I'd like to call a VOTE to accept Mynewt as a > new ASF incubator project. > > The full text of the

Re: [DISCUSS] Mentor neutrality policy

I would not have been able to mentor Phoenix should it have come along now. At the time I was not employed by the originator of the project. Later I chose to join them in part because they contributed the results of their labor to Apache. My evaluation of how well a podling might be functioning

Re: [VOTE] Accept Mynewt into the Apache Incubator

+1 (binding) Regards JB On 10/12/2015 06:04 PM, Sterling Hughes wrote: Hi All, As mentioned in the DISCUSS thread, all feedback has been positive on the Mynewt proposal, so I'd like to call a VOTE to accept Mynewt as a new ASF incubator project. The full text of the proposal is available on

Draft Report October 2015 - please review

Incubator PMC report for October 2015 The Apache Incubator is the entry path into the ASF for projects and codebases wishing to become part of the Foundation's efforts. There are 44 podlings currently undergoing incubation. * Community New IPMC members: - Josh Elser - Sterling Hughes *

Re: Mentor disengagement - a suggestion

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Rich Bowen wrote: > > On 10/12/2015 10:10 AM, Emmanuel Lécharny wrote: >> >> Regarding inactive mentors, this is quite simple : we have a monthly >> report that has to be signed off by mentors, if one mentor does not sign >> it three time in a

Re: Incubation capacity

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 8:08 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > It sounds like ruminations about the Incubator are on the increase again, I hope that we can make use of some of this bursting energy and channel it into incremental improvements. The Incubator is a stable platform,

Re: Incubation capacity

Hi, On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 2:50 PM Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 8:08 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > > It sounds like ruminations about the Incubator are on the increase again, > > I hope that we can make use of some of this bursting

Re: [DISCUSS] [REVISED] Mentor neutrality policy

And still -1 on the revised proposal for the same reasons I stated before. Cos On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 11:39PM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > First off: Can we *please* focus on the revised proposal and not get > into a loop about the original email? I'll change the topic if that helps. > > The revised

Re: [DISCUSS] Mentor neutrality policy

On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 06:52PM, Reto Gmür wrote: > On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Roman Shaposhnik > wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > > > Hi Incubator folks, > > > > > > I would like to propose we adopt a mentor

Re: [VOTE] Accept Mynewt into the Apache Incubator

+1 (binding) On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Sterling Hughes wrote: > Hi All, > > As mentioned in the DISCUSS thread, all feedback has been positive on > the Mynewt proposal, so I'd like to call a VOTE to accept Mynewt as a > new ASF incubator project. > > The full text

Re: [DISCUSS] Mentor neutrality policy

Continuing this line of reasoning I won't be able to mentor _any_ of the projects I've mentored or still mentoring because of different levels of involvements either at my $dayjob or with the organizations that donated the code initially. Is this really an intent of the original proposal to

Re: A suggestion: podling post-mortems

Pierre: by "time to graduate", Rich meant "ready to graduate". Not the amount of time from entry until graduation. On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Pierre Smits wrote: > Since when is the incubation process a race that must be completed in the > least amount of time? If

Re: Incubation capacity

Fantastic analysis Jukka. Fan-freaking-tastic. Cheers, Chris ++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Chief Architect Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398) NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 168-519,

Re: Draft Report October 2015 - please review

> > ODF Toolkit > > Java modules that allow programmatic creation, scanning and manipulation of > OpenDocument Format (ISO/IEC 26300 == ODF) documents > > Shepherd/Mentor notes: > > Rob Weir (robweir): > > No report submitted, though I did remind the PPMC. I sense some

Re: [DISCUSS] Mentor neutrality policy

Mentors are, by definition, either: A) ASF Members B) someone who has shown enough understanding of the Apache Way to be invited to the IPMC (and should at least be considered for membership, IMHO). I would think that in either case, they should know how/when/why to check their corporate

Re: [VOTE] Accept Mynewt into the Apache Incubator

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Re: [DISCUSS] Mentor neutrality policy

On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 02:45PM, Pierre Smits wrote: > Producing good code is a community effort. When it comes down to just the > mentors fix that themselves, there is something wrong with the community of > the podling. > > This discussion is not about what participants do with their mentor hat

Re: [DISCUSS] Mentor neutrality policy

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 4:02 PM, P. Taylor Goetz wrote: > Mentors are, by definition, either: > > A) ASF Members > B) someone who has shown enough understanding of the Apache Way to be > invited to the IPMC (and should at least be considered for membership, > IMHO). > In at

Re: Mentor disengagement - a suggestion

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: > Now on to the substance of my reply: > > https://whimsy.apache.org/incubator/signoff > > If we can get some volunteers to split this list up, perhaps we can > reach out to those that haven't been participating in

Re: [VOTE] Accept Mynewt into the Apache Incubator

+1 (binding) -Taylor > On Oct 12, 2015, at 12:04 PM, Sterling Hughes wrote: > > Hi All, > > As mentioned in the DISCUSS thread, all feedback has been positive on > the Mynewt proposal, so I'd like to call a VOTE to accept Mynewt as a > new ASF incubator project. > > The

Re: Draft Report October 2015 - please review

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 7:21 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > > [ ](myriad) Benjamin Hindman > > [ ](myriad) Danese Cooper > > [ ](myriad) Ted Dunning > > [ ](myriad) Luciano Resende > > Can we get please get sign-off for Myriad? They turned in a very thorough >

Re: Incubation capacity

I think that this is an excellent analysis. The (gut) feeling I have about scarce resources are: 1) me. As Marvin noted, I am a failure mode as much as a contributor lately. This is largely due to my crazy travel schedule combined with lots of short term deliverables. Marvin has lightened that

RE: Incubation capacity

With respect to " I hope that we can manage that a bit by pushing to recognize common points of reference, move on to points difference and only then start discussing solutions." I remind everyone of a perfect starting point for this - perhaps we can focus on constructively updating

Re: Mentor disengagement - a suggestion

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: > > Now on to the substance of my reply: > > https://whimsy.apache.org/incubator/signoff > > If we can get some volunteers to split this list up, perhaps we can > reach out to those that haven't been participating in

Re: Draft Report October 2015 - please review

> * Did not report, expected next month > > - BatchEE > - Climate Model Diagnostic Analyzer (2 months late) > - Cotton (2 months late) > - DataFu > - HORN > - ODF Toolkit > - Ripple (4 months late) A disappointingly large number of podlings did not report this month. It is probably

Re: Draft Report October 2015 - please review

Please add Brooklyn to the Graduations section. It's already added to the Board agenda. Thanks, Hadrian On 10/12/2015 03:11 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: Incubator PMC report for October 2015 The Apache Incubator is the entry path into the ASF for projects and codebases wishing to become part

Re: Draft Report October 2015 - please review

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 7:57 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote: > Please add Brooklyn to the Graduations section. It's already added to the > Board agenda. Done -- thanks! Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: