Re: [VOTE] Release of Apache Allura (incubating) v1.0.1

2013-11-07 Thread Rich Bowen
On Nov 5, 2013 2:10 AM, Cory Johns john...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, This is a call for a vote on Apache Allura 1.0.1 incubating. This is our second attempt at an initial release, which specifically addresses the concerns raised in the previous, cancelled vote. A vote was held on developer

Re: [PROPOSAL] Weave for Apache Incubator

2013-11-07 Thread David Crossley
Andreas Neumann wrote: Thank you for the feedback, it looks like the name Twill is appealing enough. I will update the proposal with the new name. I would also like to put the proposal on the incubator wiki (at https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TwillProposal), can you please give me the

Incubator PMC/Board report for Nov 2013 ([ppmc])

2013-11-07 Thread Marvin
Dear podling, This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache Incubator PMC. It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your quarterly board report. The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 20 November 2013, 10:30:00:00 PST. The report for your podling

Incubator PMC/Board report for Nov 2013 ([ppmc])

2013-11-07 Thread Marvin
Dear podling, This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache Incubator PMC. It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your quarterly board report. The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 20 November 2013, 10:30:00:00 PST. The report for your podling

missing dev mail list for BatchEE and Sirona

2013-11-07 Thread David Crossley
Those two reminders are intended for BatchEE and Sirona. Their email dev list archive is not yet available, so this goes to general@ list. Clutch does detect their commits lists, but not their dev lists. http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/#batchee.incubator

Re: missing dev mail list for BatchEE and Sirona

2013-11-07 Thread Romain Manni-Bucau
Hi David not sure what you mean but list are working AFAIK. We got batchee mail this morning again and I got some sirona mails yesterday Romain Manni-Bucau Twitter: @rmannibucau Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/ LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau Github:

Re: [IP CLEARANCE] RDP client for CloudStack

2013-11-07 Thread Chip Childers
On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 02:05:06AM -0500, Chip Childers wrote: Citrix has donated a plugin for Apache CloudStack to support RDP connectivity for virtual machines running within Hyper-V hypervisors. IP Clearance Document: http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/cloudstack-rdp-client.html

Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-07 Thread Marvin Humphrey
Greetings, On August 28th, the Allura podling presented a release candidate to this list. Three weeks later, the VOTE was still open, and three of four Allura Mentors still had not been heard from. It so happens that the wayward Mentors all have illustrious reputations and exceptional records of

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-07 Thread Ted Dunning
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.comwrote: The Incubator has a fundamental structural flaw: it lacks a mechanism to reward merit earned by individual podling contributors. Instead, we teach people to hate the Incubator by placing their projects at the mercy

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-07 Thread Jim Jagielski
Certainly this is being addressed and fixed in the current 1.0.1 release thread... So why is something 2 months old such a bee in your bonnet right now? And no, it's not acceptable. And I will state that, imo, the reason is due to the mistake of having 1 mentor. Back when the Incubator 1st

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-07 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Nov 7, 2013, at 2:13 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: The Incubator has a fundamental structural flaw: it lacks a mechanism to reward merit earned by individual podling contributors. Idea: Allow for podlings to nominate, and elect, Podling chairs which can cast

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-07 Thread Chris Mattmann
Hey Guys, I agree with Ted below -- and also what I've seen you do Marvin as well -- let's nominate folks to the IPMC and get them binding VOTEs and get them rewarded as much as possible. Cheers, Chris -Original Message- From: Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com Reply-To:

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-07 Thread Chris Mattmann
-Original Message- From: Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Date: Thursday, November 7, 2013 12:31 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards On Nov 7,

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-07 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Nov 7, 2013, at 2:13 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: The Incubator's system for approving releases is at odds with everything we believe at Apache about self-governance. It produces inferior releases, an inferior incubation experience, inferior students and an inferior

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-07 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Nov 7, 2013, at 1:37 PM, Chris Mattmann mattm...@apache.org wrote: -Original Message- From: Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Date: Thursday, November 7, 2013 12:31 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-07 Thread Chris Mattmann
Oooh, OK Jim, gotcha I didn't understand the first time. -Original Message- From: Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Date: Thursday, November 7, 2013 12:49 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Tajo-0.2-incubating RC3

2013-11-07 Thread Hyunsik Choi
Are there other IPMC members who are willing to review this release? We need two more votes! - hyunsik 2013년 11월 4일 월요일에 Hyunsik Choi님이 작성: Hi folks This is the fourth candidate for Apache Tajo-0.2-incubating, and it is also the first official release for Tajo. The PPMC vote [1][2][3] was

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-07 Thread ant elder
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: On Nov 7, 2013, at 2:13 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: The Incubator has a fundamental structural flaw: it lacks a mechanism to reward merit earned by individual podling contributors. Idea: Allow for

[VOTE] Accept Twill for Incubation

2013-11-07 Thread Andreas Neumann
The discussion about the Weave proposal has calmed. As the outcome of the discussion, we have chosen a new name for the project, Twill. I would like to call a vote for Twill to become an incubated project. The proposal is pasted below, and also available at:

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-07 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Nov 7, 2013, at 3:46 PM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: On Nov 7, 2013, at 2:13 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: The Incubator has a fundamental structural flaw: it lacks a mechanism to

Re: missing dev mail list for BatchEE and Sirona

2013-11-07 Thread David Crossley
Romain Manni-Bucau wrote: Hi David not sure what you mean but list are working AFAIK. We got batchee mail this morning again and I got some sirona mails yesterday The archives. Clutch gathers the mail list addresses by ensuring that the archives are available [1]. See the URL provided below

Re: [PROPOSAL] Weave for Apache Incubator

2013-11-07 Thread Andreas Neumann
Thanks David, and the proposal is now on the wiki. On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:43 AM, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote: Andreas Neumann wrote: Thank you for the feedback, it looks like the name Twill is appealing enough. I will update the proposal with the new name. I would also

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-07 Thread Ross Gardler
On 7 November 2013 11:20, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: The Incubator has a fundamental structural flaw: it lacks a mechanism to reward merit earned by individual podling contributors. Instead, we

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-07 Thread Ross Gardler
On 7 November 2013 11:31, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: On Nov 7, 2013, at 2:13 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: The Incubator has a fundamental structural flaw: it lacks a mechanism to reward merit earned by individual podling contributors. Idea: Allow for

Re: [VOTE] Accept Twill for Incubation

2013-11-07 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Andreas Neumann a...@apache.org wrote: The discussion about the Weave proposal has calmed. As the outcome of the discussion, we have chosen a new name for the project, Twill. I would like to call a vote for Twill to become an incubated project. The proposal is

Re: missing dev mail list for BatchEE and Sirona

2013-11-07 Thread David Crossley
David Crossley wrote: Romain Manni-Bucau wrote: Hi David not sure what you mean but list are working AFAIK. We got batchee mail this morning again and I got some sirona mails yesterday The archives. Clutch gathers the mail list addresses by ensuring that the archives are available

Re: missing dev mail list for BatchEE and Sirona

2013-11-07 Thread John D. Ament
David, On that note, how come DeltaSpike is still listed as incubating at [1] Note the table on the 3rd bullet. [1]: http://incubator.apache.org/ On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:23 PM, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote: David Crossley wrote: Romain Manni-Bucau wrote: Hi David

Re: missing dev mail list for BatchEE and Sirona

2013-11-07 Thread Olivier Lamy
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6977 On 8 November 2013 08:20, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote: Romain Manni-Bucau wrote: Hi David not sure what you mean but list are working AFAIK. We got batchee mail this morning again and I got some sirona mails yesterday The

Re: [VOTE] Accept Twill for Incubation

2013-11-07 Thread Alejandro Abdelnur
+1 On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Andreas Neumann a...@apache.org wrote: The discussion about the Weave proposal has calmed. As the outcome of the discussion, we have chosen a new name for the project, Twill. I would

projects graduated need to tidy up

2013-11-07 Thread David Crossley
John D. Ament wrote: David, On that note, how come DeltaSpike is still listed as incubating at [1] Note the table on the 3rd bullet. [1]: http://incubator.apache.org/ Because these graduated projects do not tidy up after themselves. They seem to leave everything for other Incubator

Re: the Voting Status monitor is overloaded

2013-11-07 Thread David Crossley
If the projects that are listed there cannot make the effort to clean up, then do not be surpised if your subsequent vote threads are overlooked. This is also not fair on the other projects, especially new ones. -David David Crossley wrote: It seems that the brilliant Voting Status monitor has

Re: projects graduated need to tidy up

2013-11-07 Thread John D. Ament
Well, I can appreciate the frustration. I'm willing to help clean up some of this stuff. Any special rights required to edit podlings.xml? On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:45 PM, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote: John D. Ament wrote: David, On that note, how come DeltaSpike is still

Re: projects graduated need to tidy up

2013-11-07 Thread David Crossley
John D. Ament wrote: Well, I can appreciate the frustration. I'm willing to help clean up some of this stuff. Any special rights required to edit podlings.xml? IIUC then everyone who comes through the Incubator is able: http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#incubator -David

[IMO] There are no Incubator issues

2013-11-07 Thread Martijn Dashorst
In my opinion it is always a failure of a podling when they can't get a release out of the door, or are unable to vote in new committers. The future is not something we enter. The future is something we create. --Leonard I. Sweet As a podling is waiting for its release to be approved, I sure

Re: [VOTE] Accept Twill for Incubation

2013-11-07 Thread Edward J. Yoon
+1 (non-binding) On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Alejandro Abdelnur t...@cloudera.com wrote: +1 On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Andreas Neumann a...@apache.org wrote: The discussion about the Weave proposal has

Re: [VOTE] Accept Twill for Incubation

2013-11-07 Thread Joe Stein
+1 (non-binding) On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Edward J. Yoon edwardy...@apache.orgwrote: +1 (non-binding) On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Alejandro Abdelnur t...@cloudera.com wrote: +1 On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 7, 2013

Re: [VOTE] Accept Twill for Incubation

2013-11-07 Thread Doug Cutting
+1 Doug On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Andreas Neumann a...@apache.org wrote: The discussion about the Weave proposal has calmed. As the outcome of the discussion, we have chosen a new name for the project, Twill. I would like to call a vote for Twill to become an incubated project. The

Re: [VOTE] Accept Twill for Incubation

2013-11-07 Thread Olivier Lamy
+1 (binding) On 8 November 2013 11:16, Edward J. Yoon edwardy...@apache.org wrote: +1 (non-binding) On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Alejandro Abdelnur t...@cloudera.com wrote: +1 On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 1:04 PM,

Re: projects graduated need to tidy up

2013-11-07 Thread John D. Ament
Well, must be missing something. I'm 'johndament' yet I don't have write access to the trunk. On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 6:26 PM, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote: John D. Ament wrote: Well, I can appreciate the frustration. I'm willing to help clean up some of this stuff. Any

Re: projects graduated need to tidy up

2013-11-07 Thread David Crossley
John D. Ament wrote: Well, must be missing something. I'm 'johndament' yet I don't have write access to the trunk. I used to understand svn auth, but not so sure now. Following this: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#who-auth-karma It seems to me that all in committers as well

NPanday needs our attention

2013-11-07 Thread Raphael Bircher
Hi all This month I review NPanday as Shepherd. And this project realy needs our attention! There is nearly no Mailing list activity since months. The only one who writes frequenty is the Jenkins server who told that the build is broken. The only human who talks some times on the ML is

Re: [VOTE] Accept Twill for Incubation

2013-11-07 Thread Patrick Hunt
+1 Accept Twill into the Incubator Patrick On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Andreas Neumann a...@apache.org wrote: The discussion about the Weave proposal has calmed. As the outcome of the discussion, we have chosen a new name for the project, Twill. I would like to call a vote for Twill to

Re: [VOTE] Accept Twill for Incubation

2013-11-07 Thread Ashish
+1 (non-binding) On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 2:34 AM, Andreas Neumann a...@apache.org wrote: The discussion about the Weave proposal has calmed. As the outcome of the discussion, we have chosen a new name for the project, Twill. I would like to call a vote for Twill to become an incubated

Re: [VOTE] Accept Twill for Incubation

2013-11-07 Thread Ted Dunning
+1 (binding) On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org wrote: +1 Accept Twill into the Incubator Patrick On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Andreas Neumann a...@apache.org wrote: The discussion about the Weave proposal has calmed. As the outcome of the discussion, we

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-07 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: As soon as you step off your soapbox, be sure to provide some suggestions... When an individual makes major contributions to the incubation of a podling -- particularly in the areas of legal and community development -- they

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-07 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: Certainly this is being addressed and fixed in the current 1.0.1 release thread... Indeed. So why is something 2 months old such a bee in your bonnet right now? I chose to highlight the Allura situation because it

Re: [IMO] There are no Incubator issues

2013-11-07 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Martijn Dashorst martijn.dasho...@gmail.com wrote: The short guide to graduation: do the work, see it through, persevere and graduate. I think your email contained lots of excellent advice for podlings now in incubation. I dream of something better, though.

Re: [IMO] There are no Incubator issues

2013-11-07 Thread Alexei Fedotov
A month.. aha. :-) 08.11.2013 3:35 пользователь Martijn Dashorst martijn.dasho...@gmail.com написал: In my opinion it is always a failure of a podling when they can't get a release out of the door, or are unable to vote in new committers. The future is not something we enter. The future is

Re: [IMO] There are no Incubator issues

2013-11-07 Thread David Crossley
Martijn Dashorst wrote: ... Well said. Hooray for common-sense and taking ownership. We must remember that we are all individuals. The ASF enables us to do what we want. We each need to take the initiative. -David - To

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-07 Thread Upayavira
I have one (hopefully) simple question for those more familiar with the ASF\s bylaws/etc. As I understand it, the board has delegated responsibility for the incubator, and thus incubator podlings, to the Incubator PMC and its members. Thus, it is only members of the Incubator PMC that have the

who are your Mentors

2013-11-07 Thread David Crossley
I reckon that these lists are not complete. Would people from each podling review the generated lists at: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ a list of all current podlings with Description and Mentors, etc. http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html#mentors all people listed and their

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-07 Thread David Crossley
Upayavira wrote: I have one (hopefully) simple question for those more familiar with the ASF\s bylaws/etc. As I understand it, the board has delegated responsibility for the incubator, and thus incubator podlings, to the Incubator PMC and its members. Thus, it is only members of the

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-07 Thread David Crossley
David Crossley wrote: Upayavira wrote: I have one (hopefully) simple question for those more familiar with the ASF\s bylaws/etc. As I understand it, the board has delegated responsibility for the incubator, and thus incubator podlings, to the Incubator PMC and its members. Thus, it