Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-11 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Rich Bowen wrote: > The paragraph that begins with "Despite all those advantages ..." doesn't > seem to contribute anything to the proposal, and might benefit from either > being cut, or by calling out an action - that is, does this mean that you > expect to engage

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-11 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Shane Curcuru wrote: > On 3/11/15 4:20 PM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: >> Great initiative! >> >> Just one question: I don't see anything related to the groovy name and >> possible trademark in the proposal. Does Pivotal have any claims to >> the name groovy, and if so

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-11 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Stephen Connolly wrote: > If there have been over 200 contributors to the project, I would expect to > see an effort to pull some of them in shortly after entering incubation... > Assuming they can demonstrate merrit. If anybody can share 'prior art' in this area

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-11 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 3/11/15 4:20 PM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: > Great initiative! > > Just one question: I don't see anything related to the groovy name and > possible trademark in the proposal. Does Pivotal have any claims to > the name groovy, and if so are those claims transferred to the ASF? Good point. Just

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-11 Thread Stian Soiland-Reyes
The github-asf integration is fairly smooth, if not as cool as the big Merge button. For the requester there is no difference, only the Apache committer have to do manual steps. An example email, which we set up to go to dev@: http://apache-taverna-dev.markmail.org/thread/gq62b33me5mjjkjw If you

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-11 Thread jan i
On Wednesday, March 11, 2015, Cédric Champeau wrote: > Don't worry your question is perfectly legitimate. I don't know if it's > specific to Groovy, but we indeed have a lot of contributors, but not so > many recurrent one that may become committers. Thanks, please also be aware that a committe

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-11 Thread Cédric Champeau
Don't worry your question is perfectly legitimate. I don't know if it's specific to Groovy, but we indeed have a lot of contributors, but not so many recurrent one that may become committers. 2015-03-11 22:11 GMT+01:00 jan i : > On Wednesday, March 11, 2015, Roman Shaposhnik > wrote: > > > On We

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-11 Thread jan i
On Wednesday, March 11, 2015, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 12:08 PM, jan i > > wrote: > > Hi. > > > > Having just skimmed the proposal, that in general look good, one thing > > caught my eye. > > > > The proposal talks several places about a vibrant community and the > initia

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-11 Thread Benedikt Ritter
2015-03-11 21:37 GMT+01:00 Pascal Schumacher : > Am 11.03.2015 um 21:24 schrieb Benedikt Ritter: > > Is the groovy project aware that (to my knowledge) the coding has to > happen on ASF infrastructure? You won't be able to use the github web UI > for merging PRs for example, because currently the

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-11 Thread Jochen Theodorou
Am 11.03.2015 20:08, schrieb jan i: The proposal talks several places about a vibrant community and the initial commiters are only 5. I am not raising it as a problem, just would like a little explanation. It is only 5 because we did work mostly with github pull requests. Many people just spe

[VOTE] Release Apache Slider 0.70.0-incubating

2015-03-11 Thread Gour Saha
Hello, This is a call for a vote for releasing Apache Slider 0.70.0-incubating. This is a source+binary release with one .tar file (appdef_1.tar), which is a text file used for -ve testing. Summary of fixes: http://s.apache.org/AnM Vote thread: http://s.apache.org/YQx Results: http://s.apache.o

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-11 Thread Pascal Schumacher
Am 11.03.2015 um 21:24 schrieb Benedikt Ritter: Is the groovy project aware that (to my knowledge) the coding has to happen on ASF infrastructure? You won't be able to use the github web UI for merging PRs for example, because currently the ASF only mirrors git repositories from git.apache.org

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-11 Thread Guillaume Laforge
Yes Benedikt, we're aware of that. It's actually been one of the (pain) points we raised when discussing with our (then-soon-to-be) mentors and champion. Working with the Github infrastructure was very smooth, very handy and practical. But we'll have to get used to this new approach! Guillaume On

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-11 Thread Cédric Champeau
2015-03-11 21:24 GMT+01:00 Benedikt Ritter : > Is the groovy project aware that (to my knowledge) the coding has to happen > on ASF infrastructure? You won't be able to use the github web UI for > merging PRs for example, because currently the ASF only mirrors git > repositories from git.apache.or

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-11 Thread Benedikt Ritter
Is the groovy project aware that (to my knowledge) the coding has to happen on ASF infrastructure? You won't be able to use the github web UI for merging PRs for example, because currently the ASF only mirrors git repositories from git.apache.org to github. I'm very excited about this project, and

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-11 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Great initiative! Just one question: I don't see anything related to the groovy name and possible trademark in the proposal. Does Pivotal have any claims to the name groovy, and if so are those claims transferred to the ASF? Martijn ---

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-11 Thread Cédric Champeau
A good answer to this is to take a look at who actually contributed for the past 4 years: https://github.com/groovy/groovy-core/graphs/contributors?from=2011-01-01&to=2015-03-11&type=c and you will see that there are not so many regular contributors. GitHub helped us a lot recently to have more con

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-11 Thread Rich Bowen
The paragraph that begins with "Despite all those advantages ..." doesn't seem to contribute anything to the proposal, and might benefit from either being cut, or by calling out an action - that is, does this mean that you expect to engage more closely with these projects to help them do better

Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache Singa as incubator project

2015-03-11 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
+1 Regards, Alan > On Mar 10, 2015, at 7:33 AM, Thejas Nair wrote: > > The Singa Incubator Proposal document has been updated based on > feedback in the proposal thread. > > This vote is proposing the inclusion of Apache Singa as incubator project. > The vote will run for at least 72 hours. >

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-11 Thread Stephen Connolly
If there have been over 200 contributors to the project, I would expect to see an effort to pull some of them in shortly after entering incubation... Assuming they can demonstrate merrit. An initial committer list of 5 for such a big project with a large and diverse history of contributions would

[DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-11 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Hi! It is my pleasure and privilege to open up the following proposal: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/GroovyProposal for wide discussion before conducting and IPMC vote on it. In order to engage as much potential stakeholders as possible we will be soliciting input on {dev,users}@groovy.cod

Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache Singa as incubator project

2015-03-11 Thread Thejas Nair
Thanks for the input on the name. Naming is always tricky! We can look into that as the project goes through incubation and before it graduates. Apache guideline on naming - http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Olemis Lang wrote: > On 3/10/15, Thejas

Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache Singa as incubator project

2015-03-11 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 11:52 PM, Olemis Lang wrote: > ...I do not know if this matters at all but JFYI , <> is considered > as an obscene word by native Spanish speakers in quite a few regions It does matter in terms of "marketing" IMO. Also, dunno if that's been discussed already and it's