Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

On Saturday, November 14, 2015, Rich Bowen wrote: > No. I can use whatever criteria I like to justify my vote on a podlings > graduation, if it's in line with asf philosophy. This document is, and > accurately reflects the criteria I use when voting on a graduation. That >

Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

Top-posting on purpose. This thread has veered from discussing specific concerns about Sentry to a discussion about the Maturity Model. It'd probably be good to fork the thread and continue the discussion separately in case other folks specifically interested in the discussion about Sentry are

Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

On Nov 15, 2015 10:14 AM, "Justin Erenkrantz" wrote: > > On Saturday, November 14, 2015, Rich Bowen wrote: > > > No. I can use whatever criteria I like to justify my vote on a podlings > > graduation, if it's in line with asf philosophy. This document

Re: Apache Metrics, Not Apache Humans

On 15/11/2015 18:20, Marko Rodriguez wrote: > 1. There is no need to have philosophical arguments (not grounded in > measurables) about what rules a project should follow (bounded by law). "Healthy" is intrinsically subjective, and as such, unmeasurable, leading to even more debates as

Re: Apache Metrics, Not Apache Humans

> Because of Apache Infrastructure's centralized server model (email lists, version control, distributions, homepages, etc.), it has the ability to gather metrics such as, for example, the distribution of pushes to the repository, the branch factor of the mailing list, the centrality of the

Re: [DISCUSS] S2Graph Incubator Proposal

Hi Hyunsik, the proposal looks strong and the project itself very interesting. Enthusiastic thumbs up, looking forward the incubation. Please let me know if there is something I can help with - I would be happy to get envolved and help you guys with issues related to incubation. -- Alex On

[VOTE] Retire Corinthia

Greetings, The Corinthia community has voted to retire: http://s.apache.org/odN This is a vote of the IPMC to confirm the decision to retire the podling. [ ] +1 to retire Corinthia from the Incubator [ ] -1 to keep Corinthia in the Incubator This vote will be held open for at least 72

Re: Apache Metrics, Not Apache Humans

momentary issue or concern -- though a more general concern about how Apache should evolve. I personally think that the complex human emotions is important evolutionary mechanism. The machine or math can't. On Monday, 16 November 2015, Marko Rodriguez wrote: > Hi, > > I

Kalumet retirement steps

(cross-posted to kalumet-dev@incubator and general@incubator) Greets, I'm currently going through the retirement steps for Kalumet, and one of the first items is this: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/retirement.html#steps-to-retirement Has the copyright checkbox of the incubator

Re: [VOTE] Retire Corinthia

On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 7:01 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > Greetings, > > The Corinthia community has voted to retire: > > http://s.apache.org/odN > > This is a vote of the IPMC to confirm the decision to retire the podling. > > [ ] +1 to retire Corinthia from the

Re: [VOTE] Apache Apex Malhar Release 3.2.0-incubating (RC2)

+1 carrying over from Apache Apex (incubating) dev list vote. Thank you, Vlad On 11/14/15 18:40, Pramod Immaneni wrote: +1 Carrying vote over from dev list. Thanks On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Amol Kekre wrote: +1 (non-binding) I too am carrying over vote from

Re: [VOTE] Retire Corinthia

+1 (binding) On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 9:01 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > Greetings, > > The Corinthia community has voted to retire: > > http://s.apache.org/odN > > This is a vote of the IPMC to confirm the decision to retire the podling. > > [ ] +1 to retire Corinthia

Re: [VOTE] Apache Apex Malhar Release 3.2.0-incubating (RC2)

+1 Carrying vote over from dev list. Thanks - Gaurav > On Nov 15, 2015, at 8:19 PM, Vlad Rozov wrote: > > +1 carrying over from Apache Apex (incubating) dev list vote. > > Thank you, > > Vlad > > On 11/14/15 18:40, Pramod Immaneni wrote: >> +1 >> >> Carrying vote

Re: Apache Metrics, Not Apache Humans

Marko, the metrics approach has been discussed in the past, for instance http://markmail.org/message/ubx3utli3bnltv75 So far my feeling is that the ASF prefer to deliver of people to build an opinion of projects rather than based them on pure statistical metrics. But I'd be happy to see something

Re: [VOTE] Apache Apex Malhar Release 3.2.0-incubating (RC2)

+1 (binding). Carried over vote from dev list. thanks — Hitesh On Nov 13, 2015, at 9:30 PM, Thomas Weise wrote: > Hi, > > Please vote on the following Apache Apex Malhar 3.2.0-incubating release > candidate. This is the first release of the Malhar library in ASF and it is >

Re: [VOTE] Retire Corinthia

+1 (binding) On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 7:01 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > Greetings, > > The Corinthia community has voted to retire: > > http://s.apache.org/odN > > This is a vote of the IPMC to confirm the decision to retire the podling. > > [ ] +1 to retire Corinthia

Re: [VOTE] Retire Corinthia

+1 (binding) On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 7:01 PM, Marvin Humphrey > wrote: > > Greetings, > > > > The Corinthia community has voted to retire: > > > > http://s.apache.org/odN > > > > This

Re: [VOTE] Retire Corinthia

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Re: Apache Metrics, Not Apache Humans

On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 7:20 PM, Marko Rodriguez wrote: > ...The Apache Way should be about metrics.. >...Get the human out of the loop! No. The ASF is built on the collective wisdom of its members and community. Having metrics-based projects might be an interesting

RE: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

I think the Maturity Model, relied on as some guidelines for assessing a project, needs to be applied for that purpose in terms of identifying the striving-fors. Is there evidence that particular areas are being strived for. Is there evidence of an anti-pattern. How do these net out in the

RE: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

Dennis makes a good point. Some to ago it became common to think of the diversity objective to become a minimum number of contributors from different orgs rather than an acceptance of new contributors views. Now we require a behavior pattern likely to lead to diversity. One is quantative

Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

Justin, Why is it so that graduation can be vetoed? Best regards, Pierre Smits *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace* http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > On Saturday, November 14, 2015, Rich Bowen

Apache Metrics, Not Apache Humans

Hi, I was talking with Daniel Gruno and wrote the following ideas to him. Note that these are just ideas and not based on any real momentary issue or concern -- though a more general concern about how Apache should evolve. Apache should NOT use a binary "podling" / "top-level" model. All