Re: The state of Sirona

2017-04-15 Thread Niclas Hedhman
One could also ask the question; Considering how hyped "devops" culture is right now, the central role that monitoring and visualization of that is for devops, How come this project can't attract hordes of people? Is there something inherent in Apache Incubator that interested parties have some

Re: The state of Sirona

2017-04-15 Thread larry mccay
Well said. It is healthy to not have a podling graduate and subsequently struggle as a TLP. This is actually a success of sorts. At least until a majority of podlings have trouble. :) On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > I think that we need to get over

Re: The state of Sirona

2017-04-15 Thread siddharth anand
Nicely put. Sid On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 11:55 AM, Ted Dunning wrote: > I think that we need to get over thinking of this state of affairs is a > "failure". > > It is just one of the many different possible outcomes for incubation. To > my mind, having multiple possible

Re: The state of Sirona

2017-04-15 Thread Ted Dunning
I think that we need to get over thinking of this state of affairs is a "failure". It is just one of the many different possible outcomes for incubation. To my mind, having multiple possible outcomes is a *feature*, not a bug. Obviously, we should not admit podlings that we aren't committed to

Re: The state of Sirona

2017-04-15 Thread Pierre Smits
It is very sad to see a project failing at growing a community. Looking at the various public sources, I see: - just 2 pull request since its start in incubation - no postings on the user ml since December 2015 - only 3 committing contributors since start in incubation - No

Re: The state of Sirona

2017-04-15 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi John I think you did the right thing by bringing the point on the table. AFAIR I already stated some months ago that, regarding the activity and regarding the community around, we should really think about retirement of Sirona. Some can argue about the fact that Sirona is a "stable" project

The state of Sirona

2017-04-15 Thread John D. Ament
All, I hate bringing up these topics. But I think we as the IPMC we have to take a close look at how Sirona is running and figure out what to do next. - The podling has not reported in several months (this is their 3rd attempt at monthly). - Every time the thought of retirement comes up, a

Re: [PROPOSAL] Superset Proposal for Apache Incubator

2017-04-15 Thread Pierre Smits
I found this * [[http://airbnb.io/superset/|Superset Documentation]] leading to nowhere. http://airbnb.io/superset/ worked for me. Best regards, Pierre Smits ORRTIZ.COM OFBiz based solutions & services OFBiz Extensions Marketplace http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ On Sat,

Re: [PROPOSAL] Superset Proposal for Apache Incubator

2017-04-15 Thread Pierre Smits
Indeed an interesting project and I also look forward to it becoming part of the Apache suite of open source solutions. I have some cycles to guide the podling (when accepted) growing towards graduation. Best regards, Pierre Smits ORRTIZ.COM OFBiz based solutions &

Re: Podling Press Kit

2017-04-15 Thread Pierre Smits
When in doubt (about the MUST vs SHOULD), I follow the MoSCoW method when working on requirements. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MoSCoW_method Otherwise I suggest the following principle: 'When in Doubt Run in Circles, Scream and Shout (WDRCSS). ;-) Best regards, Pierre Smits ORRTIZ.COM