Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

2015-03-11 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: If there have been over 200 contributors to the project, I would expect to see an effort to pull some of them in shortly after entering incubation... Assuming they can demonstrate merrit. If anybody can

Re: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-25 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Jake Farrell jfarr...@apache.org wrote: podlings do not appear in the acreq script until they have been added to podlings.xml, even if they file their ICLA with initial committer as part of groovy. secretary@ needs to get the grant before we can import the

Re: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-25 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: ...Another question : who is in charge of all those tasks ?.. If you could create tickets like the https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-8968 example that would enable our infra team to get started.

ASFIncubator now managed via TweetDeck

2015-03-29 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Hi! over the weekend I've experimented with managing ASFIncubator via TweetDeck and I really like the results. In fact, I like them so much that I am going to suggest we manage the rest of our official ASFxxx accounts in the following way: 0. The account itself is NOT expected to be used

Re: ASFIncubator now managed via TweetDeck

2015-03-31 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 12:05 AM, jonathon toki.kant...@gmail.com wrote: On 31/03/15 03:08, David Nalley wrote: the master ASFxxx account be associated with. I see two alternatives here: * ASF Infra team collectively owns it * Whoever controls @TheASF owns it Neither IMO. Infra

Re: ICLA/CCLA/SGA guidelines for GitHub or multi-entity projects was: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-26 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 9:03 AM, David Nalley da...@gnsa.us wrote: On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote: On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 7:51 AM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: In contrast, from a legal standpoint, a signed Software Grant

Re: [GROOVY] mailing lists are ready, see you there!

2015-03-26 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
I don't. On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Andrew Bayer andrew.ba...@gmail.com wrote: Just making sure - others besides me are getting the subscribe moderation emails? A. On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 6:21 PM,

Re: ICLA/CCLA/SGA guidelines for GitHub or multi-entity projects was: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-26 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 9:30 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 5:26 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote: ...Could you please provide an URL (if for nothing else, just for a future reference). Here: On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:19 PM

Soliciting feedback for a detailed pTLP policy document

2015-03-02 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Hi! since a few board members requested a detailed document outlining the exact policy of a pTLP project, I've created this: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=51812862 which is modeled after the Incubator policy document. My rationale is this: if the level of

Re: pTLP process amendments

2015-03-02 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 2:11 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 3:44 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org ...The Incubator PMC might not have a formal say in pTLP creation, but

Re: Practical next steps for pTLP experiment

2015-02-23 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: We don't need consensus from the board. We need data to allow the board to evaluate properly. That's fair, but what *exactly* do you need? The IPMC is tasked with providing recommendations.

Re: Practical next steps for pTLP experiment

2015-02-23 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: The board have asked for the IPMC to make recommendations. Is the precise nature of what being asked recorded anywhere? Thanks, Roman.

Re: Practical next steps for pTLP experiment

2015-02-23 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: It's not unfair. I deliberately tried to say i don't want to distract from the handover process. I though we all agreed that whatever pTLP is -- it is absolutely 100% orthogonal to the process that

Re: March 2015 Incubator report timeline

2015-02-23 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Adam Bordelon a...@mesosphere.io wrote: Assuming Myriad gets voted into the incubator this week, is there anything I/we will need to do for the March incubator report? It would be helpful if you could submit your first report during this cycle. Just add your

Re: [VOTE] Accept Myriad into the Apache Incubator

2015-02-23 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Adam Bordelon a...@mesosphere.io wrote: Hello friends, After receiving a positive response on the discussion thread, and even a new Mentor (Luciano), I would like to call a VOTE to accept Myriad into the Apache Incubator. I will end the vote after 7 days.

Re: Practical next steps for pTLP experiment

2015-02-23 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 12:12 AM, Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org wrote: I would like to pick this thread up again... Thanks! I apologize for being completely unavailable for the past 10 days or so -- the amount of stuff happening @$WORK was way too overwhelming. As a matter of fact, my

Re: pTLP process amendments

2015-02-25 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Hi Niclas! First of all: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9195 Hopefully INFRA will respond soon so we can all collaborate on the content. At this point I've started the documentation to the level of details currently on Incubator pages. On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 6:15 PM, Niclas Hedhman

Re: Practical next steps for pTLP experiment

2015-02-25 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 3:51 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote: On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: We don't need consensus from

Re: [GROOVY] mailing lists are ready, see you there!

2015-03-27 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
2015-03-26 18:51 GMT+01:00 Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org: I don't. On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Andrew Bayer andrew.ba...@gmail.com wrote: Just making sure - others besides me are getting the subscribe moderation emails? A. On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Bertrand

Do we need @ASFIncubator ?

2015-03-23 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Hi! while trying to spread the good news that the Groovy vote has passed, I've realized that we don't have a dedicate Incubator Twitter account. Question for all: should we leverage @TheASF for the incubator-level announcements or should we establish our own handle? WDYGT? Thanks, Roman.

[RESULT] [VOTE] Accept Groovy into the Apache Incubator

2015-03-23 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 11:55 PM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: Following the discussion earlier in the thread: http://s.apache.org/KWE I would like to call a VOTE for accepting Groovy as a new incubator project. The proposal is available at: https://wiki.apache.org

Re: ICLA/CCLA/SGA guidelines for GitHub or multi-entity projects was: [Groovy] Next steps...

2015-03-26 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 7:51 AM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: In contrast, from a legal standpoint, a signed Software Grant doesn't change much when the codebase is already under the ALv2. (Quite possibly it has zero effect but I'd need to ask a lawyer about the text of the

Re: [POLL] Using this list to discuss pTLP proposals, ok?

2015-03-23 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 1:12 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 8:27 PM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: ...The mailing lists derive their power from being focused on specific topics I disagree, our mailing lists are focused on

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Ignite (Incubating) 1.0

2015-04-01 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 8:31 PM, Dmitriy Setrakyan dsetrak...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 8:21 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote: On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 8:04 PM, P. Taylor Goetz ptgo...@gmail.com wrote: I think it would be good form to let it go for a full 72 hours

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Ignite (Incubating) 1.0

2015-04-01 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 8:04 PM, P. Taylor Goetz ptgo...@gmail.com wrote: I think it would be good form to let it go for a full 72 hours to give others the opportunity to vote. I’d say give it another day, and be happy it’s likely to pass at this point. That 72 hour guideline/rule is there to

Re: [DISCUSS] Geode Incubation proposal

2015-04-13 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 11:42 AM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote: On 13 April 2015 at 19:19, Greg Chase gch...@pivotal.io wrote: jan i jani at apache.org writes: On Sunday, April 12, 2015, dsh daniel.haischt at gmail.com wrote: Just as a quick remark. Geode might be a trademark owned by

Re: File podling reports next month rather than late

2015-04-09 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 9:26 PM, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 9:00 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: Thanks again to everyone who has contributed towards another strong report from the Incubator this month -- I'm confident that we'll meet the

Re: [VOTE} Climate Model Diagnostic Analyzer

2015-04-20 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:00 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: OK all, discussion has died down, we have 3 mentors, I think it’s time to proceed to a VOTE. I am calling a VOTE now to accept the Climate Model Diagnostic Analyzer (CMDA) into the Apache

[VOTE] Accept Geode into the Apache Incubator

2015-04-19 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
* Konstantin Ignatyev * Lise Storc * Luke Shannon * Lyndon Adams * Lynn Gallinat * Lynn Hughes-Godfrey * Mark Bretl * Michael Schubert * Namrata Thanvi * Neeraj Kumar * Nilkanth Patel * Qihong Chen * Rahul Diyewar * Randy May * Roman Shaposhnik * Severine Tymon

Re: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC

2015-04-28 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Apologies if this has been asked, but Rich's points got me thinking. As it stands, I'm not sure I can see how Whimsy can graduate without us squinting just so. Basically, I don't see a clear way for the community to grow much beyond the initial list of committers. In a way, I'd rather see Whimsy

Re: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC

2015-04-28 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:08 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: Not sure if your concern is diversity or scale, so I'll address both separately. If your concern is something else please be more explicit. Graduation does not require diversity of the PMC. It

Re: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC

2015-04-28 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: I don't see how this is any different from any other project. The initial contributors will work on it to satisfy their needs. If organization X wants to use it they can contribute code to

Re: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC

2015-04-27 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 7:05 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: The ASF pays for Infra contractors. Their job/role is to maintain our systems. Sometimes their duty *may* be to contribute software to $Project (wherever that may be). That is *very* distinct from paying a person to

Re: [VOTE] Accept Geode into the Apache Incubator

2015-04-27 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 10:46 PM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: Following the discussion earlier in the thread: http://s.apache.org/Oxt I would like to call a VOTE for accepting Geode as a new incubator project. The proposal is available at: https://wiki.apache.org

[RESULT] [VOTE] Accept Geode into the Apache Incubator

2015-04-27 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 10:46 PM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: Following the discussion earlier in the thread: http://s.apache.org/Oxt I would like to call a VOTE for accepting Geode as a new incubator project. The proposal is available at: https://wiki.apache.org

Re: [DISCUSS] Trafodion Incubation Proposal

2015-05-18 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Stack st...@duboce.net wrote: Unless there are other comments on the proposal, I will move to start a VOTE on accepting Trafodion into incubator tomorrow. Given that there were a few folks volunteering as mentors (thanks!!!) should we have the updated version of

Re: [DISCUSS] Geode Incubation proposal

2015-04-12 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 1:50 PM, John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org wrote: Roman, Is this the same as Project Geode which seems to be clogging my twitter feed this afternoon? Sorry about that -- we get excited about open source ;-) http://projectgeode.org/ If so, it looks like you

Re: [DISCUSS] Geode Incubation proposal

2015-04-12 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Since I'm getting a few off-list questions, I just want to make one point clear: On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 8:53 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote: I'd also like to be able to review the source referred to in the proposal without having to sign up to the Pivotal network - how can I

Re: [DISCUSS] Geode Incubation proposal

2015-04-12 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 10:15 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: Pivotal are asking me to agree to an evaluation license which I cannot view before I sign up. So I have to review the privacy policy first. This must be a bug in your browser. What OS/Browser are

Re: [DISCUSS] Geode Incubation proposal

2015-04-12 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 8:49 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: Where hand over the Geode name also means hand over the domain name and GitHub organizations that have rather confusingly been launched in the last few days. Yup. Everything that's been published on

[DISCUSS] Geode Incubation proposal

2015-04-12 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
* Mark Bretl * Michael Schubert * Namrata Thanvi * Neeraj Kumar * Nilkanth Patel * Qihong Chen * Rahul Diyewar * Randy May * Roman Shaposhnik * Severine Tymon * Shatarupa Nandi * Shirish Deshmukh * Sonal Agarwal * Soubhik Chakraborty * Sourabh Bansod * Stephane Maldini

Re: [DISCUSS] Geode Incubation proposal

2015-04-12 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com wrote: Roman, Could you comment on the potential issue that this proposal is only offering up the distributed object storage. The problem that might arise with this is that by offering up a particular specialized core

Re: Report for April mostly done

2015-04-05 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 9:29 PM, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com wrote: General section looks grand. We have a few projects unreported, DataFu, ODF Toolkit, OpenAz. I know a bit about Datafu which has been very quiet for some time. FWIW: I've been keeping an eye on them and noticed a

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Ignite (Incubating) 1.0

2015-04-01 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
I'll do it later tonight if nobody beats me to it. Thanks, Roman. On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Konstantin Boudnik c...@apache.org wrote: Dear IPMC - we are one binding vote short. Can anyone chime in, pretty please? Then we'll have April's Fools release of Ignite ;) Thanks! Cos On

Robot vs. personal KEYS for signing releases

2015-06-08 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Hi! my recollection is that the collective opinion was to discourage the use of KEYS of robots for signing the releases and prefer individuals do that with their keys. I remember a thread to that effect, but I cant google it. Am I misremembering? Thanks, Roman.

How to setup a Hipchat room

2015-06-03 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Hi! apologies for CCing INFRA, but since I'm using their prior art perhaps somebody over there could share their experience in how they solved it. What I'm trying to do is to setup a Hipchat room for Geode poddling (because, you know, it is 2015 and everybody's way too hip for good old IRC). All

Re: Blog policy for poddlings

2015-06-03 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 12:57 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 6:17 PM, David Nalley da...@gnsa.us wrote: ..I am unaware of a policy that would prohibit a podling from having a blog

Re: [DISCUSS] Communicating intent around non-release, downstream integration binary artifacts

2015-06-23 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 6:21 AM, David Nalley da...@gnsa.us wrote: So I see a bit of nuance here. The project should not be promoting/advertising non-released artifacts outside of it's own developer community (e.g. the folks who actually develop Apache $foo) The developer, however, may want

Re: [DISCUSS] Communicating intent around non-release, downstream integration binary artifacts

2015-06-23 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:16 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: The distinction is between people who develop the Apache product, and those who use the Apache product. Well, that's part of the reason behind me starting this thread: I think it is time for us to explicitly

Re: [DISCUSS] Communicating intent around non-release, downstream integration binary artifacts

2015-06-23 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: There is nothing preventing clearly identifiable non-release artifacts available to the general public. Many projects make automated nightly builds available for example. This! Honestly this has

Re: [VOTE] Accept Freemarker into Apache Incubator

2015-06-19 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 12:15 AM, Jacopo Cappellato jaco...@apache.org wrote: Following the discussion in the thread [1], I would like to call a VOTE to accept Freemarker as a new Apache Incubator project. The proposal is available on the wiki at [2] and is also attached to this mail.

Re: Poddlings @ApacheCON EU CORE

2015-06-21 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 7:03 AM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote: First thanks for taking care of getting our podlings onboard, they are the future of ASF and therefore really important. Indeed. Here's a tracking page I've created: https://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/ACEU15Incubator Let the

Re: Serveral legal question about donating project to Apache?

2015-06-18 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Stefan Reich stefan.reich.maker.of@googlemail.com wrote: Sorry, but this is all too complicated. You're not a lawyer, but you let software development be controlled by lawyers? It leads to stalemate. I don't know what gave you that impression, but ASF prides

Re: Poddlings @ApacheCON EU CORE

2015-06-19 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
, Roman. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 11:16 PM, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com wrote: I think it is quite doable, but it would require steely discipline to get people to stick to the time limits. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 10:17 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote: Hi! currently I'm

Re: [PROPOSAL]Pistachio

2015-06-22 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 7:45 PM, John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:26 PM Andrew Purtell apurt...@apache.org wrote: Pistachio can easily embed computation to the storage layer to achieve the best data locality to improve the computation performance

Re: [PROPOSAL]Pistachio

2015-06-22 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Gavin Li lyo.ga...@gmail.com wrote: The other difference is in Pistachio we can do computation based on in-memory storage with data replication. Different from the in-memory computation in Spark, the storage can be in-memory here. Have you guys looked at

[DISCUSS] Communicating intent around non-release, downstream integration binary artifacts

2015-06-22 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Hi! let me start by saying that I feel proud about the rigor with which ASF approaches management of the ultimate foundation deliverables: the source releases put out by our communities. If you read our policy document: http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html and only focus on the source

Re: Licensing Issue

2015-06-27 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Stefan Reich stefan.reich.maker.of@googlemail.com wrote: I will personally abolish copyright. Join the future. unlicense.org Yes, but! If what you're interested in is creating the biggest possible user/contributor community for your piece of work this may

Last chance to tell your story at ApacheCON EU 2015

2015-06-27 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Hi! with CFP on ApacheCON EU CORE closing in just a few days (July 1st) I would like to appeal to all the podlings and their mentors to consider telling your story (and recruiting new community members!). While all ASF projects are constantly in the business of recruiting, it is especially

Re: [DISCUSS] Communicating intent around non-release, downstream integration binary artifacts

2015-06-23 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 6:22 AM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: Yep, that’s the “tax” of Apache. IMO, its main reason for existing is to make users of ASF projects feel comfortable incorporating our source into their projects because we’ve done our due diligence on the IP/legal stuff on

Re: Clarification on wiki write access

2015-06-10 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 2:06 PM, Chen, Alice (Trafodion) alice.c...@hp.com wrote: Hello, Our project is using the Confluence Wiki. I am wondering who can be given write access to the wiki. From http://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html in the section Using a Wiki to Create

Poddlings @ApacheCON EU CORE

2015-06-17 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Hi! currently I'm helping with the Incubator track @ApacheCON EU CORE and I'd like to run an idea by you guys. Do you think that having a 'speed dating talk' in the incubator track would be useful? We've got ~40 poddlings, assuming that only 50% would participate that leaves ~20. If we reserve

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache NiFi from the Incubator

2015-06-17 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 9:05 PM, Joe Witt joe.w...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Apache Incubator This thread is to call a vote within the Incubator for the graduation of Apache NiFi. Status page: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/nifi.html Incubator graduation discussion:

Re: Robot vs. personal KEYS for signing releases

2015-06-15 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 10:35 PM, Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org wrote: Cédric, you are very vague about it, and it could well be that everything is ok. But I suggest that you let infra@ give a opinion about the security level of the solution that you running with. For instance, (IIUIC)

Re: Blog policy for poddlings

2015-06-03 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 12:57 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 6:17 PM, David Nalley da...@gnsa.us wrote: ..I am unaware of a policy that would prohibit a podling from having a blog at blogs.a.o... Same here, except maybe that a podling should not

Blog policy for poddlings

2015-05-28 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Hi! can someone please remind me what's the policy for letting poddlings use blogs.apache.org as a blogging platform? Thanks, Roman. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands,

Re: Blog policy for poddlings

2015-05-29 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
28, 2015 at 9:36 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote: Hi! can someone please remind me what's the policy for letting poddlings use blogs.apache.org as a blogging platform? Thanks, Roman. - To unsubscribe, e

Re: [VOTE] Apache Ignite 1.1.0 release (RC7)

2015-05-27 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Konstantin Boudnik c...@apache.org wrote: IPMC, we are one vote short here and the absence of this release is blocking Apache Bigtop 1.0 from getting into RC. Could you please take a look and vote? Thanks in advance! +1 Thanks, Roman.

Re: [VOTE] Apache Ignite 1.2.0 release (RC2)

2015-06-27 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 5:08 AM, Branko Čibej br...@apache.org wrote: On 24.06.2015 08:34, Dmitriy Setrakyan wrote: On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 8:26 AM, Justin Mclean jus...@classsoftware.com wrote: Hi, Moreover, modules under extdata are test only and are not used anywhere in the project.

Re: Last chance to tell your story at ApacheCON EU 2015

2015-06-27 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Pierre Smits pierre.sm...@gmail.com wrote: Roman, There is a talk in preparation regarding Trafodion. Great! Once it it submitted, could you please update the wiki? Thanks, Roman. - To

Re: You know what... Apache is just too complicated.

2015-05-19 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 7:43 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote: On 19 May 2015, at 08:18, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: ...The http://incubator.apache.org/ are way too verbose in

Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at ASF?

2015-08-17 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 8:48 AM, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org wrote: On 8/16/15 4:25 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org wrote: On 8/7/15 7:53 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: Bill, So I can release Niclas Hadoop platform, based

Re: [DRAFT] August 2015 Board Report - Please Review

2015-08-17 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 7:52 PM, John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 1:16 PM Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 4:43 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 4:31 PM, John D. Ament johndam

Re: apache binary distributions

2015-08-17 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 1:02 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote: Now that takeaway from this thread for me so far is this: in order for the trademark enforcement to be invoked there has

Re: [DISCUSS] HAWQ Incubation Proposal

2015-08-21 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 3:00 AM, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com wrote: Is Madlib even viable as an independent project? Yes it is extremely viable. There's been a number of prototypes of porting MADlib to other SQL-on-Hadoop projects (Impala is the one I know of) and also quite a bit of

Re: [DISCUSS] HAWQ Incubation Proposal

2015-08-21 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 1:46 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 5:14 AM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: ... == External Dependencies ==... There's some GPL/LGPL stuff in there, IMO the proposal should include a plan for coping with those

Re: [DISCUSS] HAWQ Incubation Proposal

2015-08-21 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
: Konstantin Boudnik, Sergey Soldatov * Pivotal: everyone else on this proposal == Sponsors == === Champion === Roman Shaposhnik === Nominated Mentors === The initial mentors are listed below: * Alan Gates - Apache Member, Hortonworks * Owen O'Malley - Apache Member, Hortonworks

Re: [DISCUSS] HAWQ Incubation Proposal

2015-08-21 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 2:54 AM, Christian Tzolov christian.tzo...@gmail.com wrote: Is PXF (HAWQ extension framework) going to be managed together with the HAWQ ASF project or as a child one? For now it is part of the same codebase managed by the same community. If it gets picked up by other

[DISCUSS] HAWQ Incubation Proposal

2015-08-20 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
* Tushar Pednekar * Greg Chase * Chloe Jackson * Michael Nixon * Roman Shaposhnik * Alan Gates * Owen O'Malley * Thejas Nair * Don Bosco Durai * Konstantin Boudnik * Sergey Soldatov * Atri Sharma == Affiliations == * Barclays: Atri Sharma * Hortonworks: Alan Gates, Owen

Re: [DISCUSS] HAWQ Incubation Proposal

2015-08-20 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 8:33 PM, 김영우 (Youngwoo Kim) warwit...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Roman, Great news! BTW, it might be a invalid URL for the proposal. Should be https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HAWQProposal ? Two may copy-paste buffers strike again :-( Thanks for spotting it so quickly. Yes

Re: apache binary distributions

2015-08-16 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Seems like for the past two weeks I only have weekends to respond :-( Apologies for the delay on this thread. On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 7:30 PM, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com wrote: 1) The concept of a brand covering some artifact doesn't come into play at all. Instead, there are two things

Re: apache binary distributions

2015-08-16 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote: The Hadoop PMC is utterly free to produce a Hadoop RPM with Hadoop in it that corresponds to an Apache Hadoop release. Having project

Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at ASF?

2015-08-16 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org wrote: On 8/7/15 7:53 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: Bill, So I can release Niclas Hadoop platform, based on Apache Hadoop ?? I thought the discussion a few years ago was that this was misleading... No, you cannot. See our

Re: apache binary distributions

2015-08-16 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 6:30 AM, William A Rowe Jr wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: On Aug 9, 2015 8:33 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote: On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 12:46 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 2:50 AM, Roman Shaposhnik ro

Re: [PROPOSAL]Pistachio

2015-06-29 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Hi Gavin! On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Gavin Li lyo.ga...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Roman, I've taken a brief look at Geode. Pistachio and Geode both can support similar in-memory consistent HA distributed storage, and the data aware function routing idea is also similar. Here are what I

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Ignite from the Incubator

2015-07-28 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Konstantin Boudnik c...@apache.org wrote: Following discussions [1],[2] about its current status, the Ignite community has voted [3] to graduate from the Incubator. The vote passed [4] with 14 (non-binding) +1s: 1. Yakov Zhdanov (PPMC) 2. Gianfranco

Re: third party tooling.

2015-08-05 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 1:50 PM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote: On 5 August 2015 at 22:46, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: I don't have an answer about tooling with respect to the need for widely-available tools. If the concern is for ability to use free tools on Windows, but

Re: Reform of Incubator {was; [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator)

2015-08-03 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 7:18 PM, John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org wrote: I wonder how much of the silence is a notion of I don't want to be accountable if something goes wrong in this podling. Right, but that same concern could be applied to every single TLP and yet the board seems to do the

Re: Reform of Incubator {was; [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator)

2015-08-03 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 3:44 AM, Joe Brockmeier j...@zonker.net wrote: On Sun, Aug 2, 2015, at 10:05 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: I've been waiting for a bout a week for other to chime in, but it seems that nobody has so I'll repeat my question as of a week ago: what would be the effective way

Re: Reform of Incubator {was; [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator)

2015-08-03 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 12:37 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 4:05 AM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote: ...who else thinks the movement towards empowering PPMCs and making IPMC very much like the board makes sense?... How

Re: Reform of Incubator {was; [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator)

2015-08-02 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
I've been waiting for a bout a week for other to chime in, but it seems that nobody has so I'll repeat my question as of a week ago: what would be the effective way to change the status quo around IPMC an make it more board like? Perhaps we can start from making the release policy actually make

Re: apache binary distributions

2015-08-06 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 1:15 AM, Jochen Theodorou blackd...@gmx.org wrote: Am 06.08.2015 02:43, schrieb Roman Shaposhnik: [...] As you probably remember we've discussed this issue not that long time ago: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.incubator.general/49852 The consensus

What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at ASF?

2015-08-06 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Hi! while answering a question on release policies and ALv2 I've suddenly realized that I really don't know what is the legal basis for enforcing release policies we've got documented over here: http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html For example, what would be the legal basis for stopping a

Re: apache binary distributions

2015-08-06 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 11:14 PM, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 5:44 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote: Let us put that last part a step up... Let us assume someone takes one of the released sources of one of the java projects out there, makes

Re: third party tooling.

2015-08-06 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 2:12 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 2:25 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 1:57 AM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote: ...you can call yourself open source software all you want

Re: apache binary distributions

2015-08-06 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Jochen Theodorou blackd...@gmx.org wrote: Am 06.08.2015 08:22, schrieb Niclas Hedhman: On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 8:43 AM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote: I honestly see no problem with that, again provided that the artifact can NOT be confused

Re: third party tooling.

2015-08-06 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 12:25 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 1:57 AM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote: ...you can call yourself open source software all you want, but unless you get an exception from Fedora Packaging Committee you

Re: apache binary distributions

2015-08-06 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 11:22 PM, Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 8:43 AM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote: I honestly see no problem with that, again provided that the artifact can NOT be confused with the one coming from Apache project. I think

Re: Podlings and the ASF maturity model (was: Reform of Incubator...)

2015-08-06 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 12:28 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org wrote: ...the maturity model shouldn't be a set of gating criteria, but that the podling should self-assess its position and to what degree, as

Re: [VOTE] Accept Apex into the Apache Incubator

2015-08-14 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 7:48 AM, P. Taylor Goetz ptgo...@apache.org wrote: Following the discussion thread [1], I would like to call a VOTE for Accepting Apex as a new Apache Incubator project. The proposal is available on the wiki [2] and is also attached below. The VOTE will be open for at

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