Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 8:38 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: > You may think that the discussion has died down, but perhaps recall > the lesson of NiFi. Or not, it might not strike you as applicable. exactly! Thanks, Roman. - To un

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Shane Curcuru wrote: > On 3/11/15 4:20 PM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: >> Great initiative! >> >> Just one question: I don't see anything related to the groovy name and >> possible trademark in the proposal. Does Pivotal have any claims to >> the name groovy, and if so

Re: [DISCUSS] Groovy Incubation proposal

Hi Russel! thanks for following up here. I've seen that others have commented on the points you raised, but I also wanted to chime in before this thread goes into a VOTE phase. On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 3:50 AM, Russel Winder wrote: > On Fri, 2015-03-13 at 08:55 +0100, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: >

[VOTE] Accept Groovy into the Apache Incubator

Champeau * Guillaume Laforge * Jochen Theodorou * Paul King * Pascal Schumacher == Affiliations == * Pivotal: Cédric Champeau, Jochen Theodorou * Restlet: Guillaume Laforge * ASERT: Paul King * Pascal Schumacher == Sponsors == === Champion === Roman Shaposhnik === Nominated Mento

Re: [VOTE] Accept Groovy into the Apache Incubator

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 11:55 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > Following the discussion earlier in the thread: >http://s.apache.org/KWE > > I would like to call a VOTE for accepting Groovy > as a new incubator project. > > The proposal is available at: > https://w

[RESULT] [VOTE] Accept Groovy into the Apache Incubator

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 11:55 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > Following the discussion earlier in the thread: >http://s.apache.org/KWE > > I would like to call a VOTE for accepting Groovy > as a new incubator project. > > The proposal is available at: > https://w

Re: [POLL] Using this list to discuss pTLP proposals, ok?

On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 1:12 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 8:27 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: >> ...The mailing lists derive their power from being focused on specific >> topics > > I disagree, our mailing lists are focused on *communities*, not topics. > >> ...With t

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Ignite (Incubating) 1.0-RC3

On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 8:08 AM, Branko Čibej wrote: > On 20.03.2015 21:45, Dmitriy Setrakyan wrote: >> Hello, >> >> The Apache Ignite PPMC voted to release Apache Ignite (incubating) 1.0 RC3. >> >> We now request the IPMC to vote on the release. >> >> Here is the PPMC voting result form Apache Ig

Do we need @ASFIncubator ?

Hi! while trying to spread the good news that the Groovy vote has passed, I've realized that we don't have a dedicate Incubator Twitter account. Question for all: should we leverage @TheASF for the incubator-level announcements or should we establish our own handle? WDYGT? Thanks, Roman. -

Re: Do we need @ASFIncubator ?

at 4:55 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > Done. > > Credentials sent to IPMC private list. > > > > On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Konstantin Boudnik wrote: > >> As a big-time user of @ASF... twitter accounts, I think it's a great idea! >> >> On Mon, Mar

Re: [Groovy] Next steps...

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Jake Farrell wrote: > podlings do not appear in the acreq script until they have been added to > podlings.xml, even if they file their ICLA with initial committer as part > of groovy. > > secretary@ needs to get the grant before we can import the code That's the

Re: [Groovy] Next steps...

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: >> ...Another question : who is in charge of all those tasks ?.. > > If you could create tickets like the > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-8968 example that would > enable our infra team to get started. Great example. Do we

Re: ICLA/CCLA/SGA guidelines for GitHub or multi-entity projects was: [Groovy] Next steps...

On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 7:51 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > In contrast, from a legal standpoint, a signed Software Grant doesn't change > much when the codebase is already under the ALv2. (Quite possibly it has zero > effect but I'd need to ask a lawyer about the text of the Software Grant > form

Re: ICLA/CCLA/SGA guidelines for GitHub or multi-entity projects was: [Groovy] Next steps...

On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 9:03 AM, David Nalley wrote: > On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Roman Shaposhnik > wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 7:51 AM, Marvin Humphrey >> wrote: >>> In contrast, from a legal standpoint, a signed Software Grant doesn't chan

Re: ICLA/CCLA/SGA guidelines for GitHub or multi-entity projects was: [Groovy] Next steps...

On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 9:30 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 5:26 PM, Roman Shaposhnik > wrote: >> ...Could you please provide an URL (if for nothing else, >> just for a future reference). > > Here: > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:19 PM, J

Re: [GROOVY] mailing lists are ready, see you there!

I don't. On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Andrew Bayer wrote: > Just making sure - others besides me are getting the subscribe moderation > emails? > > A. > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz < > bdelacre...@apache.org> wrote: > >> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 6:21 PM, Jochen The

Re: [GROOVY] mailing lists are ready, see you there!

t;>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 09:54PM, Guillaume Laforge wrote: >>>>>> And how to add in batch the current subscribers of the old list. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2015-03-26 21:29 GMT+01:00 Cédric Champe

ASFIncubator now managed via TweetDeck

Hi! over the weekend I've experimented with managing ASFIncubator via TweetDeck and I really like the results. In fact, I like them so much that I am going to suggest we manage the rest of our official ASFxxx accounts in the following way: 0. The account itself is NOT expected to be used asi

Re: ASFIncubator now managed via TweetDeck

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 12:05 AM, jonathon wrote: > On 31/03/15 03:08, David Nalley wrote: >>> the master ASFxxx account be associated with. I see >>> two alternatives here: >>> * ASF Infra team collectively owns it >>> * Whoever controls @TheASF owns it >> Neither IMO. >> Infra doesn't wa

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Ignite (Incubating) 1.0

I'll do it later tonight if nobody beats me to it. Thanks, Roman. On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Konstantin Boudnik wrote: > Dear IPMC - we are one binding vote short. Can anyone chime in, pretty please? > Then we'll have April's Fools release of Ignite ;) > > Thanks! > Cos > > On Mon, Mar 30

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Ignite (Incubating) 1.0

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 8:04 PM, P. Taylor Goetz wrote: > I think it would be good form to let it go for a full 72 hours to give others > the opportunity to vote. > I’d say give it another day, and be happy it’s likely to pass at this point. > > That 72 hour guideline/rule is there to allow everyo

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Ignite (Incubating) 1.0

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 8:31 PM, Dmitriy Setrakyan wrote: > On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 8:21 PM, Roman Shaposhnik > wrote: > >> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 8:04 PM, P. Taylor Goetz wrote: >> > I think it would be good form to let it go for a full 72 hours to give >>

Re: Report for April mostly done

On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 9:29 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > General section looks grand. > > We have a few projects unreported, DataFu, ODF Toolkit, OpenAz. > > I know a bit about Datafu which has been very quiet for some time. FWIW: I've been keeping an eye on them and noticed a reduced activity for t

Re: IP Clearance Questions

On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 8:31 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > Ok, I was more reading it as must be placed into the drop box with the > checksum so it can be referenced properly. > > In any event, I think the text is confusing me quite a bit and would like > to know what is 'proper' process for a GitHub

Re: File podling reports next month rather than late

On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 9:26 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 9:00 PM, Marvin Humphrey > wrote: > >> Thanks again to everyone who has contributed towards another strong report >> from the Incubator this month -- I'm confident that we'll meet the same >> standards next month but with

[DISCUSS] Geode Incubation proposal

n Adams * Lynn Gallinat * Lynn Hughes-Godfrey * Mark Bretl * Michael Schubert * Namrata Thanvi * Neeraj Kumar * Nilkanth Patel * Qihong Chen * Rahul Diyewar * Randy May * Roman Shaposhnik * Severine Tymon * Shatarupa Nandi * Shirish Deshmukh * Sonal Agarwal * So

Re: [DISCUSS] Geode Incubation proposal

On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > Roman, > > Could you comment on the potential issue that this proposal is only > offering up the distributed object storage. The problem that might arise > with this is that by offering up a particular specialized core capability, > other proj

Re: [DISCUSS] Geode Incubation proposal

On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 1:50 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > Roman, > > Is this the same as Project Geode which seems to be clogging my twitter > feed this afternoon? Sorry about that -- we get excited about open source ;-) > http://projectgeode.org/ > > If so, it looks like you already figured out t

Re: [DISCUSS] Geode Incubation proposal

On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 8:49 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > Where "hand over the Geode name" also means hand over the domain name and > GitHub organizations > that have rather confusingly been launched in the last few days. Yup. Everything that's been published on GitHub is going to tr

Re: [DISCUSS] Geode Incubation proposal

Since I'm getting a few off-list questions, I just want to make one point clear: On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 8:53 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: >> I'd also like to be able to review the source referred to in the proposal >> without having to sign up to "the Pivotal n

Re: [DISCUSS] Geode Incubation proposal

On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 10:15 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > Pivotal are asking me to agree to an "evaluation license" which I cannot view > before I sign up. > So I have to review the privacy policy first. This must be a bug in your browser. What OS/Browser are you using? The text of

Re: [DISCUSS] Geode Incubation proposal

On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 11:42 AM, jan i wrote: > On 13 April 2015 at 19:19, Greg Chase wrote: > >> jan i apache.org> writes: >> >> > >> > On Sunday, April 12, 2015, dsh gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > > Just as a quick remark. Geode might be a trademark owned by AMD: >> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/

[VOTE] Accept Geode into the Apache Incubator

Kirk Lund * Kishor Bachhav * Konstantin Boudnik * Konstantin Ignatyev * Lise Storc * Luke Shannon * Lyndon Adams * Lynn Gallinat * Lynn Hughes-Godfrey * Mark Bretl * Michael Schubert * Namrata Thanvi * Neeraj Kumar * Nilkanth Patel * Qihong Chen * Rahul Diyewar * Randy

Re: [VOTE} Climate Model Diagnostic Analyzer

On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 10:00 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) wrote: > OK all, discussion has died down, we have 3 mentors, I think it’s > time to proceed to a VOTE. > > I am calling a VOTE now to accept the Climate Model Diagnostic > Analyzer (CMDA) into the Apache Incubator. The VOTE is open for >

Re: [VOTE] Accept Geode into the Apache Incubator

On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 10:46 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > Following the discussion earlier in the thread: >http://s.apache.org/Oxt > > I would like to call a VOTE for accepting Geode > as a new incubator project. > > The proposal is available at: > https://w

[RESULT] [VOTE] Accept Geode into the Apache Incubator

On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 10:46 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > Following the discussion earlier in the thread: >http://s.apache.org/Oxt > > I would like to call a VOTE for accepting Geode > as a new incubator project. > > The proposal is available at: > https://w

Re: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC

On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 7:05 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > The ASF pays for Infra contractors. Their job/role is to maintain our > systems. Sometimes their duty *may* be to contribute software to $Project > (wherever that may be). > > That is *very* distinct from paying a person to contribute directly t

Re: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC

Apologies if this has been asked, but Rich's points got me thinking. As it stands, I'm not sure I can see how Whimsy can graduate without us squinting just so. Basically, I don't see a clear way for the community to grow much beyond the initial list of committers. In a way, I'd rather see Whimsy g

Re: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:08 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > Not sure if your concern is diversity or scale, so I'll address both > separately. If your concern is > something else please be more explicit. > > Graduation does not require diversity of the PMC. It requires that the > proje

Re: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > I don't see how this is any different from any other project. The initial > contributors will work on it to > satisfy their needs. If organization X wants to use it they can contribute > code to generalize the > software and m

Re: [DISCUSS] Trafodion Incubation Proposal

On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Stack wrote: > Unless there are other comments on the proposal, I will move to start a > VOTE on accepting Trafodion into incubator tomorrow. Given that there were a few folks volunteering as mentors (thanks!!!) should we have the updated version of the proposal p

Re: You know what... Apache is just too complicated.

On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 7:43 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: >>> On 19 May 2015, at 08:18, Bertrand Delacretaz >>> wrote: >>> ...The http://incubator.apache.org/ are way too verbose in my opinion, >>> and often mix best practices with

Re: [VOTE] Apache Ignite 1.1.0 release (RC7)

On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Konstantin Boudnik wrote: > IPMC, > > we are one vote short here and the absence of this release is blocking Apache > Bigtop 1.0 from getting into RC. Could you please take a look and vote? Thanks > in advance! +1 Thanks, Roman. -

Blog policy for poddlings

Hi! can someone please remind me what's the policy for letting poddlings use blogs.apache.org as a blogging platform? Thanks, Roman. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-m

Re: Blog policy for poddlings

t; --David >> >> On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 9:36 PM, Roman Shaposhnik >> wrote: >>> Hi! >>> >>> can someone please remind me what's the policy >>> for letting poddlings use blogs.apache.org as a >>> blogging platform? >>>

Re: Blog policy for poddlings

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 12:57 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 6:17 PM, David Nalley wrote: >> ..I am unaware of a policy that would prohibit a podling from having a >> blog at blogs.a.o... > > Same here, except maybe that a podling should not create any confusion > about i

How to setup a Hipchat room

Hi! apologies for CCing INFRA, but since I'm using their prior art perhaps somebody over there could share their experience in how they solved it. What I'm trying to do is to setup a Hipchat room for Geode poddling (because, you know, it is 2015 and everybody's way too hip for good old IRC). All

Re: Blog policy for poddlings

Roman. On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 12:57 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: >> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 6:17 PM, David Nalley wrote: >>> ..I am unaware of a policy that would prohibit a podling from having a >>>

Groovy release and LEGAL-171

Hi! Groovy is currently voting a release where exactly the same issue as LEGAL-171 got raised. Their tarball currently contains the file in question: buildSrc/src/main/java/JavadocFixTool.java with the LICENSE described in LEGAL-171. My understanding is that this file should NOT be redistribu

Robot vs. personal KEYS for signing releases

Hi! my recollection is that the collective opinion was to discourage the use of KEYS of robots for signing the releases and prefer individuals do that with their keys. I remember a thread to that effect, but I cant google it. Am I misremembering? Thanks, Roman. -

Re: Clarification on wiki write access

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 2:06 PM, Chen, Alice (Trafodion) wrote: > Hello, > > Our project is using the Confluence Wiki. I am wondering who can be given > write access to the wiki. > From http://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html in the section "Using a > Wiki to Create Documentation" > it lo

Re: Robot vs. personal KEYS for signing releases

On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 10:35 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > Cédric, > you are very vague about it, and it could well be that everything is ok. > But I suggest that you let infra@ give a opinion about the security level > of the solution that you running with. > > For instance, (IIUIC) one rogue PMC

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache NiFi from the Incubator

On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 9:05 PM, Joe Witt wrote: > Hello Apache Incubator > > This thread is to call a vote within the Incubator for the graduation > of Apache NiFi. > > Status page: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/nifi.html > Incubator graduation discussion: http://s.apache.org/wmy > NiFi c

Poddlings @ApacheCON EU CORE

Hi! currently I'm helping with the Incubator track @ApacheCON EU CORE and I'd like to run an idea by you guys. Do you think that having a 'speed dating talk' in the incubator track would be useful? We've got ~40 poddlings, assuming that only 50% would participate that leaves ~20. If we reserve tw

Re: Serveral legal question about donating project to Apache?

On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Stefan Reich wrote: > Sorry, but this is all too complicated. You're not a lawyer, but you let > software development be controlled by lawyers? It leads to stalemate. I don't know what gave you that impression, but ASF prides itself, amon other things, on robust I

Re: Poddlings @ApacheCON EU CORE

es! ;-) Thanks, Roman. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 11:16 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > I think it is quite doable, but it would require steely discipline to get > people to stick to the time limits. > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 10:17 PM, Roman Shaposhnik > wrote: > >> Hi! >>

Re: [VOTE] Accept Freemarker into Apache Incubator

On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 12:15 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: > Following the discussion in the thread [1], I would like to call a VOTE to > accept > Freemarker as a new Apache Incubator project. > > The proposal is available on the wiki at [2] and is also attached to this > mail. > > The VOTE is o

Re: Poddlings @ApacheCON EU CORE

On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 7:03 AM, jan i wrote: > First thanks for taking care of getting our podlings onboard, they are the > future of ASF and therefore really important. Indeed. Here's a tracking page I've created: https://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/ACEU15Incubator Let the sign-ups begin! >

Re: [PROPOSAL]Pistachio

On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 7:45 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:26 PM Andrew Purtell wrote: > >> > Pistachio can easily embed computation to the storage layer to achieve >> the >> > best data locality to improve the computation performance significantly >> > which is an innovat

Re: [PROPOSAL]Pistachio

On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Gavin Li wrote: > The other difference is in Pistachio we can do computation based on > in-memory storage with data replication. Different from the in-memory > computation in Spark, the storage can be in-memory here. Have you guys looked at in-memory computation l

[DISCUSS] Communicating intent around non-release, downstream integration binary artifacts

Hi! let me start by saying that I feel proud about the rigor with which ASF approaches management of the ultimate foundation deliverables: the source releases put out by our communities. If you read our policy document: http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html and only focus on the source releas

Re: [DISCUSS] Communicating intent around non-release, downstream integration binary artifacts

On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:16 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > The distinction is between people who develop the Apache product, and > those who use the Apache product. Well, that's part of the reason behind me starting this thread: I think it is time for us to explicitly acknowledge a third role: an

Re: [DISCUSS] Communicating intent around non-release, downstream integration binary artifacts

On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 6:21 AM, David Nalley wrote: > So I see a bit of nuance here. > The project should not be promoting/advertising non-released artifacts > outside of it's own developer community (e.g. the folks who actually > develop Apache $foo) > > The developer, however, may want to show

Re: [DISCUSS] Communicating intent around non-release, downstream integration binary artifacts

On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 6:22 AM, Alex Harui wrote: > Yep, that’s the “tax” of Apache. IMO, its main reason for existing is to > make users of ASF projects feel comfortable incorporating our source into > their projects because we’ve done our due diligence on the IP/legal stuff > on every line of

Re: [DISCUSS] Communicating intent around non-release, downstream integration binary artifacts

On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > There is nothing preventing "clearly identifiable non-release artifacts > available to the general public". Many projects make automated nightly builds > available for example. This! Honestly this has always been my personal i

Re: Licensing Issue

On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Stefan Reich wrote: > I will personally abolish copyright. Join the future. > > unlicense.org Yes, but! If what you're interested in is creating the biggest possible user/contributor community for your piece of work this may not be the wisest move given the curre

Last chance to tell your story at ApacheCON EU 2015

Hi! with CFP on ApacheCON EU CORE closing in just a few days (July 1st) I would like to appeal to all the podlings and their mentors to consider telling your story (and recruiting new community members!). While all ASF projects are constantly in the business of recruiting, it is especially importa

Re: [VOTE] Apache Ignite 1.2.0 release (RC2)

On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 5:08 AM, Branko Čibej wrote: > On 24.06.2015 08:34, Dmitriy Setrakyan wrote: >> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 8:26 AM, Justin Mclean >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> Moreover, modules under extdata are test only and are not used anywhere >>> in the project. They are used to te

Re: Last chance to tell your story at ApacheCON EU 2015

On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Pierre Smits wrote: > Roman, > > There is a talk in preparation regarding Trafodion. Great! Once it it submitted, could you please update the wiki? Thanks, Roman. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: gener

Re: [PROPOSAL]Pistachio

Hi Gavin! On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Gavin Li wrote: > Hi Roman, > > I've taken a brief look at Geode. Pistachio and Geode both can support > similar in-memory consistent HA distributed storage, and the data aware > function routing idea is also similar. Here are what I think are different

Re: Incubating HiveMind

Hi Edmond! great to see your enthusiasm about joining ASF! On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Edmond Kemokai wrote: > Hello Folks, > > I was referred to this list as a starting point for getting a project > incubated with ASF. > > I am the developer of HiveMind (not to be confused with > https://h

Re: Shepherds

Hi Pierre! On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Pierre Smits wrote: > Hi all, > > Roman wrote this regarding shepherds to me in an off-site discussion: > > > Shepherd have tremendous responsibilities by providing an independent > second opinion of the health of podlings back to the IPMC > > > Please h

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Groovy 2.4.4-incubating

Hi! first all, I'd like to say that between the last RC that I reviewed and this one Groovy team has made huge progress. You guys rock! That said, the IP hygiene is one of the biggest parts of the curriculum known as Incubator. For that reason, I can't thank Justin enough for his thorough review.

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Groovy 2.4.4-incubating

On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 7:27 AM, Emmanuel Lécharny wrote: >>> It *was* written a couple of hours ago: >> "Projects typically use http://people.apache.org/~${RM}/** or the newer /dev >> tree of the dist repository or the >> staging features of repository.apa

Re: Incubating HiveMind

On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 8:41 PM, Edmond Kemokai wrote: > Thanks for the follow up Roman! > > I would start thinking of a new name, though the existing ASF project with > the same name is a retired one so I don't know if it will be possible to > simply take it up eventually. Good point. That said,

Re: Podling request: Gerrit

IIRC, the problem with Gerrit workflow is that actually pushes into the repo are actually done by the bot. This runs against ASF's desire to keep push logs that actually make sense. The setup that you're describing (although ASCII art came broken via Gmail) seems to be addressing that very problem

Re: Podling request: Gerrit

On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 3:13 AM, Ian Maxon wrote: >> 2. The ASF has no record of any contributions that are happening on >> the Gerrit instance at UCI, until a committer decides to push code to >> the ASF repo. > > I'm afraid I don't understand this point. How is this different than > any other di

Re: Podling request: Gerrit

On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Till Westmann wrote: > >> On Jul 15, 2015, at 10:02 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 3:13 AM, Ian Maxon wrote: >>>> 2. The ASF has no record of any contributions that are happening on >>>>

Re: Podling request: Gerrit

On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Chris Douglas wrote: > On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Roman Shaposhnik > wrote: >> As long as there's a human being in the loop reviewing what's going into the >> repo I don't think I've got any issues with the p

Re: Podling request: Gerrit

On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Till Westmann wrote: > 1) I think that we didn’t ask for an ASF hosted instance. But I also think > that > David’s concern that the absence of the service would disrupt the > development of AsterixDB is valid. And thus it might make sense not to rely > on an insta

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Release Apache Groovy 2.4.4-incubating

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 1:47 AM, Emmanuel Lécharny wrote: > Le 16/07/15 10:41, Justin Mclean a écrit : >> Hi, >> >>> This vote passes with 4 binding "+1" votes, no "0" notes, and 2 "-1" >>> binding votes. >> If you read carefully I think you find there were 3 -1 votes on the binary >> releases. >

Re: [NOTICE] Yetus TLP proposal

Hi! I'd like to nominate Jun Aoki (a committer on Apache Ambari) for this project. He's done a lot of integration work with testpatch for Amabri and Geode. He's already committer on Ambari and thus pretty versed in the Apache Way. What would be the best way to consider him? Thanks, Roman. On Sat

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Release Apache Groovy 2.4.4-incubating

, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Cédric Champeau wrote: > 2015-07-16 18:49 GMT+02:00 Roman Shaposhnik : >> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 1:47 AM, Emmanuel Lécharny >> wrote: >>> Le 16/07/15 10:41, Justin Mclean a écrit : >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>>> This vote

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

;>>>>> We’d like to initiate this discussion/proposal to establish a >> >>> consensus >> >>>>>>> within the incubator and if appropriate will initiate a vote. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > Quoting Roy out of context Daniel, unless you can substantiate the above claim I suggest you retract your statement. In open communities an accusation that you just threw at me carries a lot of weight and I will absolutely NOT tolerate basele

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > Accusation of what exactly? Quoting Roy out of context. Here's what you said: "Quoting Roy out of context is not a Hail Mary you can just throw out there when someone disagrees with you." > To the best of my knowledge, Roy has not been a pa

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

// Putting my Ignite mentor hat on I apologies for not chiming in on this thread earlier. I am at OSCON and my connectivity is extremely limited. Thus, I'd like to constrain myself to highly actionable questions on this thread. Which is: On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 7:34 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: >> Obv

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 2:10 AM, Branko Čibej wrote: > On 24.07.2015 21:00, Konstantin Boudnik wrote: >> An an active mentor of the podling I do support the graduation. The last, to >> my knowledge, concern expressed was about insufficient open discussions of >> the >> new features on the dev@ an

Fwd: Time to propose a CS Capstone Project!

FYI. I think this could have a pretty positive effect on podling growth. Just the same way that GSOC does sometimes. Feel free to fwd. to your respective podlings. Thanks, Roman. -- Forwarded message -- From: Steven Hathaway Date: Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 2:17 PM Subject: Fwd: Time

Re: Reform of Incubator {was; [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator)

On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 1:56 AM, jan i wrote: > No that is an important service, on the other hand I also agree that the > mentors should be guiding/running the podlings not general@ > > Maybe we can find some middle ground. > - Mentors "run" the podlings, can accept releases etc. > - Mentors deci

Re: Reform of Incubator {was; [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator)

On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 9:50 AM, toki wrote: > > > On 07/26/2015 04:35 PM, jan i wrote: > >> unless we don't trust the mentors > > It isn't a case of not trusting the mentors, but rather, the ease with > which something can be accidentally overlooked. > > Rephrased. The mentor is too close to the

Re: Reform of Incubator {was; [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator)

David, I think we've been there before a few month ago. In my view, you're articulating collective (IPMC) vs. personal (mentors) responsibility. IIRC, we came to be on different sides of that divide. I'll repeat again what I said in that discussion: I like the mentor responsibility model a LOT fo

Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator

Hi Daniel On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > Apologies in advance for slightly crossing threads here. I'll try to keep you straight in replying to the parts that belong to this thread ;-) > But let's get some facts straight first: > - The champion of the project created a DI

Re: Reform of Incubator {was; [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator)

On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > > > On 2015-07-26 10:56, jan i wrote: >> >> No that is an important service, on the other hand I also agree that the >> mentors should be guiding/running the podlings not general@ >> >> Maybe we can find some middle ground. >> - Mentors "run"

Re: Last chance to tell your story at ApacheCON EU 2015

Hi Richard! sorry for the belated reply (OSCON is to blame ;-)) I see that you've successfully updated the wiki. This is great. I'm planning to do one last round of planning within that Speed Dating/Shark Tank slot with everybody who volunteered. Expect an email from me soon. Thanks, Roman. On W

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Ignite from the Incubator

On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Konstantin Boudnik wrote: > Following discussions [1],[2] about its current status, the Ignite community > has voted [3] to graduate from the Incubator. The vote passed [4] with 14 > (non-binding) +1s: > >1. Yakov Zhdanov (PPMC) >2. Gianfranco Murador (PP

Re: Reform of Incubator {was; [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator)

I've been waiting for a bout a week for other to chime in, but it seems that nobody has so I'll repeat my question as of a week ago: what would be the effective way to change the status quo around IPMC an make it more board like? Perhaps we can start from making the release policy actually make se

Re: Reform of Incubator {was; [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator)

On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 7:18 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > I wonder how much of the silence is a notion of "I don't want to be > accountable if something goes wrong in this podling." Right, but that same concern could be applied to every single TLP and yet the board seems to do the right thing with t

Re: Reform of Incubator {was; [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator)

On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 12:37 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 4:05 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: >> ...who else thinks the movement towards empowering >> PPMCs and making IPMC very much like the board makes sense?... > > How is that different from t

Re: Reform of Incubator {was; [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator)

On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 3:44 AM, Joe Brockmeier wrote: > On Sun, Aug 2, 2015, at 10:05 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: >> I've been waiting for a bout a week for other to chime in, but >> it seems that nobody has so I'll repeat my question as of >> a week ago: what would

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