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different, however I hope this at least explains where people are coming
from with reference to IP clearance.
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On Thu, 2008-02-07 at 19:27 -0500, Ted Husted wrote:
> Here's my binding +1 on the Thrift proposal.
>
> On Jan 23, 2008 9:07 PM, Mark Slee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > We've just posted the Apache Incubator prop
want to see done relating to apache.org lists,
please do contact me. However, as far as lists at apache.org, I do not
currently believe any action is required.
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Thanks for the suggestion. None of the email addresses mentioned in this
email are subscribed to general@, so currently, I find this email
bizarrely inexplicable.
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On Fri, 2008-02-15 at 11:19 +0100, Endre Stølsvik wrote:
> Upayavira wrote:
> > On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 09
setting up infrastructure (mailing lists, SVN, jira,
eventually web space), and start the process of gathering ICLAs.
I'll try to get the lists set up today or tomorrow (and I'll do CouchDB
at the same time).
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On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 23:49 -0800, Mark Slee wrote:
> It l
ssion, puts the situation very well. If we were to
switch to git, or anything else, there would be huge issues involved,
and would be probably years of work to manage the transition. If that is
what is generally wanted, then we need volunteers who will put
themselves behind the
On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 22:29 +0100, Endre Stølsvik wrote:
> Upayavira wrote:
> > Justin put it very well in a related thread elsewhere (permission
> > sought):
>
> [ CHOP interesting adamant view from Justin ]
> (Where is "elsewhere", btw?)
Apache has a n
verkill. One would be enough, at least to get the
podling restarted.
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t keep the foundation together, having some members on every PMC is
important.
So the role of a mentor after graduation points both ways, still
providing guidance to the PMC, and also, where necessary, representing
(in the non-formal sense) the PMC
this was necessary, but if someone
> sees it as required, I'll hang around the QPID PMC and offer any help
> needed.
What I see as important is that there is member representation on the
PMC. If there is sufficient member representation without you, then no
problem!
Upayavira
entioned to see who is subscribed,
etc.
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Please include proposal in this thread so that people don't have to go
externally to see it.
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On Mon, 2008-06-02 at 08:11 -0700, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
> +1
>
> On Jun 2, 2008, at 8:05 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>
> > Relevant information can be
Thank you.
And here's my +1.
Upayavira
On Mon, 2008-06-02 at 08:47 -0700, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
> On Jun 2, 2008, at 8:18 AM, Upayavira wrote:
>
> > Please include proposal in this thread so that people don't have to go
> > externally to see it
I would be quite happy with the below. It reads sufficiently
straightforwardly.
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On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 13:29 -0700, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
> Currently on http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html, we have:
> ---
> Vote on the podling's private (PPMC) lis
TML from XML,
and commit the HTML over the top of those changes.
That isn't the fault of the person who reruns Anakia, that is the fault
of the person who edited the HTML directly.
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ft. My own failing there.
I prompted Thrift to report - one was proposed, but never made it onto
the Incubator report wiki page.
We need to report next month, and for the two months that follow that.
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I suspect thrift is missing from everywhere that it needs adding. Thanks for
pointing this one out, I'll get it sorted.
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From: "Bertrand Delacretaz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:
e ASF repository?
That is the clincher in this discussion.
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On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 11:49 +0800, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> On Wednesday 30 July 2008 18:59, Upayavira wrote:
> > i.e. would it be acceptable to do a SourceForge release based upon code
> > in the ASF repository?
>
> Yes, you know that the license allows this. BUT it can&
well, but still with a strong Google contingent, and it will take quite
some time before that changes significantly.
So, with 14 initial committers from one org, I'd expect incubation to be
very slow.
Upayavira
On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 11:29 +0200, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:
> You adre
ation for nearly three years.
Just trying to set some expectations.
Having said that, if the project is prepared to go ahead on that basis,
then I'm fine with it too, and would happily vote for it.
I do think it is time for a vote.
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everal days and many of them have volunteered to step back.
>
> The proposal has been updated and there are now only 8 initial
> committers.
This is good. 8 is still on the higher side, but I think you'll have a
much more pleasant incubation with this reduce
e who just don't read it in the first place, or read it and then
> forget how it's suppoused to work but..
And by the sounds of it, it would enable those of us that often answer
"so what next?" questions to answer with a URL rather than a long and
tedious explanation. Thus,
its onward
distribution.
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On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 09:00 -0400, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> -1 (Binding)
>
> On Sep 22, 2008, at 6:41 PM, Paul Querna wrote:
>
> > -1, (Binding).
> >
> > (For the reasons explained by Craig and Justin in this Thread)
> >
&g
t placing unnecessary
and even arbitrary restrictions around them?
These really the principles that need to be addressed before we can go
on to discuss the details of how we intend to treat a release.
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es to that effect: "Should any of our incubating
dependencies fail incubation, we (the TLP) will take responsibility for
that code so as to continue supporting our users."
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st build community" aspect and
> reduce the incubator to a mandatory IP-clearing house, that allows
> projects to go through in mere weeks instead of years.
That would be a shame. I think helping build community is one of the
things we can do well.
Upayavira
---
On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 10:49 +0200, Martijn Dashorst wrote:
> Though I'm not in favor of dropping the community requirements for
> graduation, I must disagree with the following, based on our license:
>
> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 1:32 AM, Upayavira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr
. Only committers are allowed to sign them. That is what is
being said.
A blanket all committers must sign an NDA would be the death of Apache,
eh?
Upayavira
> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 4:48 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Gurkan Erdo
On Fri, 2008-10-10 at 11:20 +1100, David Crossley wrote:
> BlueSky, Empire-DB, Lucene.Net, Qpid, Thrift are missing
> their reports this month.
>
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/October2008
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ReportingSchedule
I have passed this on to Thr
On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 20:46 +0200, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 8:44 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > ...the Incubator PMC needs to accept this graduation
This page says that podlings are in month1/2/3 for reports. Would it be
possible to show on the page what months each of these relate to? That
would really help checking reports for a specific month.
Otherwise, a real "blimey" page, really useful. Thanks!
Upayavira
On Sun, 2008-10-1
mmunity is there yet, the release will not happen. If
> the PMC think that the podling is ready to graduate, then the release
> will happen, and graduation shortly after.
Or we establish some additional 'almost there' criteri
ncubator is a
> big thing today, having a defined way of sharing the load might help.
>
> I'd suggest electing 3-4 volunteers for that.
I think that sounds like a good idea, and I'd volunteer if needed.
Upayavira
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we wish.
We already have openwebbeans, openEJB and openJPA.
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ploy has
reached a point where it is ready for a vote (i.e. there is a proposal
on the incubator wiki, and sufficient mentors have been identified),
then a vote can be called at any time.
However, it is best to avoid major holidays, e.g. Christmas, Easter,
Thanksgivin
.
If you haven't got mentors yet, that really needs to be your focus. They
would then likely have a sense when is the right time to put the project
to a vote.
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> http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html#steps
Could clutch in some way be used to mimic Marvin for the Incubator?
I for one would really appreciate an email each month saying what
projects need to report.
Could simply be group1.html, grou
issues was brought up and hopefully addressed in the text below.
+1
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On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 21:12 +1100, David Crossley wrote:
> Upayavira wrote:
> > David Crossley wrote:
> > >
> > > http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html
> >
> > Could clutch in some way be used to mimic Marvin for the Incubator?
> >
> > I
better if we had a third mentor. Any volunteers?
>
> As Roland mentioned, it would be great if we could have another mentor
> helping in PhotArk.
> I'll wait couple more days, and otherwise volunteer myself as a men
ith:
* dev list address
* project name
* board meeting dates
I can scrape the code to identify the board meeting date from Marvin
(assuming I can find him). You've given me the dev list addresses, which
is great. It would be nice (but not necessary though) to have the
project names
I'll mentor it. This could be the next big thing at
Apache after:
http://markmail.org/message/iz6ejtre3dwtfgdo
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On Sat, 2009-04-04 at 13:46 +1100, David Crossley wrote:
> David Crossley wrote:
> > Upayavira wrote:
> > >
> > > Thinking more about this, there are three components I could really do
> > > with:
> > >
> > > * dev list address
> > &
it off-site, such as SourceForge or
GoogleCode. See www.wicketstuff.org for one example.
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iscouraged,
but it should not be banned.
This seems to me to make a lot of sense. Of course, IANAL.
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>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Upayavira [mailto:u...@odoko.co.uk]
> > Sent: Saturday, 18 April 2009 9:23 AM
> > To: general@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second
one? Is emailing
> general@incubator.apache.org, saying "hi - I'm looking for a Champion
> for " sufficient?
Depends on whether it works! But yes, asking on general@ is the right
place to ask, as I would expect many/most of the folks who would be in a
position to act as cham
I personally would just ask the secretary what he thinks - mail
secret...@.
He's responsible for managing this stuff, and it might be easy for him
to automate sending mails. Dunno.
Upayavira
On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 08:56 +0200, Richard Hirsch wrote:
> I like the idea of using JIRA to t
can't
> get the three votes required to do anything.
Additional concern, it does not appear that the mentors are planning to
be on the PMC. Why not?
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work - all I needed to do was
read a few emails, and perhaps do a little research occasionally. Not
much to do for communities that I had come to appreciate.
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ode,
> testing, and voting on releases).
I was never really a user on either Felix or Wicket, yet both
communities were willing to have me stay :-)
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ere..
Hey Gav,
Yeah, I suspect it did fry his brain.
As far as I'm concerned, as a member, you can just volunteer, and that's
it. However, for your votes to count, you should join the Incubator PMC.
Send a mail to private@ saying you want to join. Then I'll add you to
the comm
an
> existing one ?
I think we should just summarise the vote, and include references to
both threads in the summary, and then move on...
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gt;
> So, it's not a problem for us - until as Jim pointed out, we have to
> disclose it - which generally means you're an Officer and at that point,
> all
> bets are off as to your privacy... -- justin
I am, I suspect, the person in question. As you might guess, Upayavir
?
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Subj: Re: Mentors - the more, the merrier? [WAS Re: [VOTE] Accept Heraldry
into the Incubator]
Date: Thu 13 Jul 2006 21:40
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Cliff Schmidt wrote:
> On 7/13/06, Davi
upgraded its Confluence install? (Jeff Turner already has a dump of the
wiki)
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found at:
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WicketProposal)
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= Wicket Proposal =
This proposal outlines the creation of a new top-level Wicket project
within the Apache Software Foundation.
== Rationale ==
Wicket is a unique web application framework that focusses on bringing
Leo Simons wrote:
> Nice proposal. Seems like a no-brainer. More Dutchies at apache is
> always a good thing ;)
>
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 04:54:15PM +0100, Upayavira wrote:
>> === Versions ===
>>
>> Wicket currently has three versions of their code base, 1.2
dea what the shortest time is that a new
community might be incubated (assuming no other issues)?
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> On 29/07/06, Eelco Hillenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Time scale for Wicket 2.0 is to start out releasing betas within two
>> months. We plan to fi
ases?
As a side note, another issue I have noted regarding releases is that
Incubator releases aren't allowed until all paperwork is in place. I
would intend to have all paperwork in place before incubation begins, so
that releases can be done soon in the incubation process.
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rojects that come to the incubator without a community or code, but it
> just doesnt work for projects that are being "adapted" rather then "incubated"
I think we can find that it does and can work for existing projects -
just perhaps need to clarify exactly how to describe it.
&g
the release file, etc, etc. Nothing that should be too
hard to manage (esp as I'd intend to do most of the CLA gathering before
actually shifting to Apache - without doing so you'd have committers
without commit access to your codebase, which really wouldn't work)
Hopefully that i
server.
Upayavira, who could be wrong, though.
> On Aug 10, 2006, at 2:27 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote:
>
>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/participation.html is currently a
>> draft document. i think that it's strong enough to push towards
>> promotin
s any remaining concerns that
they feel need to be addressed before feeling able to vote +1?
Thanks in advance.
Upayavira
[1]http://www.mail-archive.com/wicket-develop@lists.sourceforge.net/index.html#08853
[2]http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WicketPro
velop@lists.sourceforge.net/index.html#08808
Below is the complete proposal for this project.
So, please cast your votes:
[ ] +1 Accept Wicket as an Incubator podling
[ ] 0 Don't care
[ ] -1 Reject this proposal for the following reason:
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- o -
Searching for '[VOTE]' on the wicket archives isn't enough to find the
relevant vote :-(
Here's the correct link:
http://www.mail-archive.com/wicket-develop@lists.sourceforge.net/index.html#08853
Upayavira
Upayavira wrote:
> Folks,
>
> Without further ado (and
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> On 8/24/06, Upayavira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> ...=== Name ===
>>
>> Obviously, the
>> ...
>
> Looks like something's missing on that line, it ends after "Obviously,
> the".
Not having a good day.
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
> On 8/24/06, Upayavira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> [ ] +1 Accept Wicket as an Incubator podling
>> [ ] 0 Don't care
>> [ ] -1 Reject this proposal for the following reason:
>
> FYI: this is a majority vote not subject to vetos.
Oops. I guess I should vote :-)
[X] +1 Accept Wicket as an Incubator podling
Upayavira
Upayavira wrote:
> Folks,
>
> Without further ado (and before my PC dies again), I'd like to call a
> vote on accepting Wicket into the incubator.
>
> As previously mentioned, the
The vote has now, IMO, had enough time to run.
To summarise, we had 8 binding +1s, from Leo Simons, Alex Karasulu,
Jason van Zyl, Justin Erenkrantz, Don Brown, Yoav Shapira, Robert
Burrell Donkin, Upayavira, and one binding -0 from Greg Stein.
We also had eight non-binding +1s.
This means that
P issues.
2. Show that the community is healthy.
Now, if the Graffito project were to grant the code to Jackrabbit, with
no new committers joining Jackrabbit alongside the code, then you're
talking about an IP clearance process, and, to my mind, it is pretty
much the same as a project b
r resources though is not
relevant/necessary here I think).
Then, we can look at how ready the mapping code/community is for
graduation, and when ready, graduate it to the Jackrabbit TLP, just like
any other incubating project (Jackrabbit PMC vote, incubator PMC vote,
etc, etc).
Regards, Upayavira
start a vote to get accepted as a Graffito mentor?
I don't know what the rules are on non-Members being mentors, but apart
from that, if the podling committers/PPMC members want you (a vote would
show that), then, well, you're in. Add yourself to the podling's status
page as
Rodriguez, Marcel Offermans, Alex Karasulu,
Upayavira, Karl Pauls, Rob Walker, Richard Hall, Francesco Furfari
Non-binding committer votes:
Stefan Frenot, Didier Donsez, Manuel Santillan, Humberto Cervantes
Non-binding community votes from:
Glyn Normington, Niclas Hedhman, Jose L Ruiz, BJ
thing it would have done
months ago had it not been told to do otherwise?
Upayavira (who is expressing his frustration on behalf of all Felix folks)
P.S. Though expressed with some irony and irritation, it is in fact a
real question.
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
> On 9/13/06, Upayavira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> So how does Felix proceed now? Accept that the rules have just changed
>> on it, after spending some months under the view that a release _wasn't_
>> necessary to graduation, and go bac
for Felix until such a time
as we have resolved any outstanding issues.
Regards, Upayavira
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
> On 9/13/06, Upayavira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> So how does Felix proceed now? Accept that the rules have just changed
>> on it, after spending some months
hanged
> or to change it? If we are not supposed to change it, then we can easily
> revert to the old header, but it seems misleading since we modified it.
> If we are supposed to change it, then I imagine we should change it to
> reflect the header at http://www.apache.org/legal/src-
ng for its integrity).
However, if those on the PPMC wanted some help with the actual process
of preparing the release - testing, building, etc, that is up to those
PPMC members, and maybe there is some way you can help there.
Does that make sense?
Regards,
.
=
We can expect development of the Incubator based 1.3 version to start
actively once this release is out. Hopefully and if all goes well, 1.2.3
will be the last release in the 1.2 branch.
Regards, Upayavira
the infrastructure (svn, mailing lists, ...).
Software grant must be received before code can be imported into SVN.
Other infra can be set up now (assuming a status page exists, which I
think you've done).
Regards, Upayavira
Original-Nachricht
Datum: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 05:
an SVN dump of the old repo can be found.
If it just wants to import the latest code, as you are now (or soon will
be) on the incubator PMC, you should be able to create the root Ivy
directory yourself. Maybe just need to get yourself added to the
incubator-pmc group.
Regards
me what you
expect from our svn repository to do the import?
If you can block all commit access to the repository, then a simple zip
should do the job, If I understand correctly.
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On 11/1/06, Upayavira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Xavier Hanin wrote:
> On 11/1/06, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> On 31/10/06, Xavier Hanin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > Does Ivy want to import history, or ju
ainst Confluence were to do with handling
load. However, the autoexport plugin has worked around this, so there is
no general objection to using Confluence as a wiki, although there is a
general awareness that it can be used either as a document editing
system, or as a public wiki.
Re
be amazed at how many people don't look
there first.
Gwyn,
There's also something that someone like yourself can do - which is pick
someone you know (who visited you at your house recently) who is a
member and does have privs and bug them w
's all I'm _asking_ for (not demanding).
HTH.
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t new releases.
Yes, but it is confusing if you look at the thread about voting on
0.9.6. If 0.9.7 isn't available. Can we have 0.9.6.1 as the next
iteration of the 0.9.6 release?
Upayavira
On Nov 21, 2006, at 8:16 AM, Marc Prud'hommeaux wrote:
William
Good point, but since the tr
I'm new to this judging releases game, so I apologise if I'm missing the
mark, but...
If ActuveMQ is incubating, shouldn't the filename of the release reflect
that?
Upayavira
James Strachan wrote:
+1
On 11/16/06, Brian McCallister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
+1 thoug
s in order.
I have verified that the MD5 and PGP signature are correct.
Therefore I am prepared to vote +1.
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unresolved issues that should block graduation.
Therefore, as a mentor for Felix, I vote +1 for graduation (with the
board resolution including myself as a PMC member)
Regards, Upayavira
Richard S. Hall wrote:
> The Felix community feels that we are ready for graduation, as
indicated by
ving to do any jira nuisance. This is about committing the code itself
as a contribution, not as a dependency.
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William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
Upayavira wrote:
I'd add clarification about 'committing third party code' with reference
to libraries. I should be able to commit the latest log4j jar without
having to do any jira nuisance. This is about committing the code itself
as a contrib
for those
of us unfamiliar with it.
+1 to graduating log4net.
is the source in the incubator repository?
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/log4net/
Presumably it predates the time when incubating subprojects had their
code in the incubator re
t get a match to the
http://people.apache.org/~jim/projects.html#incubator-pmc, which
we aught to correct if that's an oversight (it's keyed to the pmc
svn access group.)
Bertrand Delacretaz joined the IPMC on 25/10/06 (acked by Jim), in order
to assist with men
,
against your own name.
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Martin Ritchie wrote:
On 16/02/07, Upayavira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Martin Ritchie wrote:
> Hi,
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> Just saw the review updates on the board reports.
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> Are we supposed to respond on the wiki? or just next report time?
If an IPMC member has made a comment about your p
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ce of being in
better shape than those of TLPs.
Personally, I think that is quite natural, and to be expected, in terms
of how meritocracies tend to be better at managing/policing their
borders than what happens inside.
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