Re: [VOTE] Accept Impala into the Apache Incubator

2015-11-25 Thread Alex Karasulu
+1 (binding) On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Tom White wrote: > +1 (binding) > > Tom > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:03 PM, Henry Robinson > wrote: > > Hi - > > > > The [DISCUSS] thread has been quiet for a few days, so I think there's > been > >

Re: [VOTE] Accept Kudu into the Apache Incubator

2015-11-24 Thread Alex Karasulu
+1 (binding) On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 10:08 PM, Arvind Prabhakar wrote: > +1 (binding) > > Regards, > Arvind Prabhakar > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Todd Lipcon wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > Discussion on the [DISCUSS] thread seems to have wound down,

Re: [DISCUSS] Eagle incubator proposal

2015-10-20 Thread Alex Karasulu
Hi Arun, Eagle sounds very promising. I just had a discussion with someone about this exact need. I do however agree with Greg on the name. As far as I can see, besides the name, your weakest point is the all eBay employed team. It's not a blocker and can be fixed during incubation. Good luck to

Re: [VOTE] Accept Horn into the ASF incubator

2015-09-01 Thread Alex Karasulu
+1 (binding) On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 1:13 AM, Edward J. Yoon > wrote: > > ..I would like to call a vote to accept Horn, as a new Apache Incubator > > project... > > +1 > > -Bertrand > >

Re: [VOTE] Accept Brooklyn into the Incubator

2014-04-28 Thread Alex Karasulu
+1 On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 8:05 PM, Andrei Savu savu.and...@gmail.com wrote: +1 -- Andrei Savu On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 6:49 AM, Chip Childers chipchild...@apache.org wrote: Based on the previous discussion of accepting Brooklyn into the Apache Incubator as a podling, I'd like to

Re: [VOTE] Graduation of Apache Spark from the Incubator

2014-02-11 Thread Alex Karasulu
+1 (binding) On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 6:50 AM, Mosharaf Chowdhury mosharafka...@gmail.com wrote: +1 -- Mosharaf Chowdhury http://www.mosharaf.com/ On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 8:45 PM, Matei Zaharia matei.zaha...@gmail.com wrote: +1 On Feb 10, 2014, at 8:27 PM, Chris Mattmann

Re: [VOTE] Graduation of Apache Spark from the Incubator

2014-02-06 Thread Alex Karasulu
I agree with Ted that these minor issues can be ironed out especially if the community is open to constructive criticism as these folks are. IMHO the health of the community is much more important than minor insignificant shortcomings. Social development is changing many things and causing

Re: Apache project bylaws

2013-10-02 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 11:58 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.comwrote: On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Alex Harui aha...@adobe.com wrote: I would like to propose a rewrite of [1] by borrowing heavily from [2] but making sure to emphasize that projects are allowed to have different

Re: [VOTE] Usergrid BaaS Stack for Apache Incubator (revised proposal)

2013-10-01 Thread Alex Karasulu
+1 (binding) On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Raminder Singh rsand...@gmail.com wrote: +1 (non-binding). Thanks Raminder On Sep 30, 2013, at 3:27 PM, Dave snoopd...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to call for a new vote on Usergrid, a multi-tenant Backend-as-a-Service stack for web

Re: The podling initial committers issue

2013-09-28 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.comwrote: On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 12:33 AM, Martijn Dashorst martijn.dasho...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps the initial committers list should be split into two: - interested developers - initial committers This way a

Re: [DISCUSS] Usergrid BaaS Stack for Apache Incubator

2013-09-25 Thread Alex Karasulu
That's a really nice world Marcel. I'd love to believe that again. However people will still have ill intentions even here at Apache. Just because we say all these good things does not mean everyone feels the same way and economics does rear it's ugly face. Just look and see the control with

Re: [DISCUSS] Usergrid BaaS Stack for Apache Incubator

2013-09-25 Thread Alex Karasulu
Stop talking and start contributing. Show your commitment by contributing. Show the present community who has worked on it for 2 years that you understand their software and care enough to spend the time applying it. This way when if your CEO says get out, you'll be like GTFO I value and I

Re: [DISCUSS] Usergrid BaaS Stack for Apache Incubator

2013-09-25 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 7:24 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana sanj...@wso2.comwrote: SNIP ... Time to get past this and get the project going! If we could have gotten here without the diversion, then the vote would not have been derailed as it was. I will not offer to mentor nor will WSO2 commit

Re: The podling initial committers issue

2013-09-25 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:24 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@apache.org wrote: On Sep 25, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Dave snoopd...@gmail.com wrote: Here's what I think we should add: After a proposal is submitted to the incubator but before a vote is called the proposing community may choose to add

Re: [DISCUSS] Usergrid BaaS Stack for Apache Incubator

2013-09-25 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:41 PM, Dave snoopd...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Sanjiva. I'm glad we we able to get things sorted out. And, thanks to everybody who gave us feedback and +1 votes. Since Usergrid is in need, I'd like to volunteer to be the champion. I'm good with that. Since this

Re: [DISCUSS] Usergrid BaaS Stack for Apache Incubator

2013-09-25 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:22 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: On Sep 25, 2013, at 3:54 AM, Lieven Govaerts lieven.govae...@gmail.com wrote: and that the incubator promotes this as 'the right thing to do' (which I didn''t know until now). Because it's NOT true. The right

Re: [DISCUSS] Usergrid BaaS Stack for Apache Incubator

2013-09-25 Thread Alex Karasulu
Sorry this went out accidentally ... I'm going to pull out as a mentor and as a committer. Thanks, Alex On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 1:05 AM, Alex Karasulu akaras...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:22 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: On Sep 25, 2013, at 3:54 AM, Lieven

Re: [DISCUSS] Usergrid BaaS Stack for Apache Incubator

2013-09-24 Thread Alex Karasulu
Hi Niranjan, Dulitha, It's fantastic to see you and others wanting to dive in and you're all more than welcome. We're looking forward to your involvement to the fullest extent possible in this community. The initial aim of the community right now is to meet the incubator entry requirements,

Re: [DISCUSS] Usergrid BaaS Stack for Apache Incubator

2013-09-24 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:34 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 02:40:19PM +0200, Lieven Govaerts wrote: On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: Alex, if people want to join and add themselves as committers, then they can. The

Re: [DISCUSS] Usergrid BaaS Stack for Apache Incubator

2013-09-24 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:14 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 01:59:21AM +0600, Alex Karasulu wrote: On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:34 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 02:40:19PM +0200, Lieven Govaerts wrote: On Tue, Sep 24

Re: [DISCUSS] Usergrid BaaS Stack for Apache Incubator

2013-09-24 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 5:57 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: On Sep 24, 2013, at 6:58 PM, Alex Karasulu akaras...@apache.org wrote: Put yourself in their shoes for a second? It's a big leap of faith for some projects to come and propose for incubation. You just scared

Re: [VOTE] Usergrid BaaS Stack for Apache Incubator

2013-09-23 Thread Alex Karasulu
) === Other Resources === None. == Initial Committers == * Alberto Leal albert...@gmail.com (Globo.com) * Alex Karasulu akaras...@apache.org (Apigee) * Dave Johnson snoopd...@apache.org (Apigee) * Ed Anuff e...@anuff.com (Apigee) * Nate McCall zznat...@gmail.com (The Last Pickle) * Rod

Re: [PROPOSAL] Usergrid BaaS Stack for Apache Incubator

2013-09-17 Thread Alex Karasulu
http://wiki.apache.org/cordova/ContributorWorkflow). === Issue Tracking === JIRA Usergrid (USERGRID) === Other Resources === None. == Initial Committers == * Alberto Leal albert...@gmail.com (Globo.com) * Alex Karasulu akaras...@apache.org (Apigee) * Dave Johnson snoopd

Re: [PROPOSAL] Usergrid BaaS Stack for Apache Incubator

2013-09-17 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Lieven Govaerts lieven.govae...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP ... As I'm setting up a similar infrastructure for a mobile application now, this project interests me a lot. I have made some different design choices so it'll be interesting to compare the benefits of my

Re: [PROPOSAL] Usergrid BaaS Stack for Apache Incubator

2013-09-16 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Luciano Resende luckbr1...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 6:39 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: I would like to propose Usergrid, a multi-tenant Backend-as-a-Service stack for web mobile applications based on RESTful APIs, as an Apache

Re: [VOTE] Accept Storm into the Incubator

2013-09-13 Thread Alex Karasulu
+1 (binding) On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 6:51 AM, Hyunsik Choi hyun...@apache.org wrote: +1 (non binding) 2013년 9월 13일 금요일에 Doug Cutting님이 작성: Discussion about the Storm proposal has subsided, issues raised now seemingly resolved. I'd like to call a vote to accept Storm as a new Incubator

Re: [PROPOSAL] Samza Proposal

2013-07-26 Thread Alex Karasulu
+1 I would love to see the documents comparing and contrasting Samza with MUPD8 and Storm. On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 2:53 AM, Enis Söztutar e...@apache.org wrote: +1 on incubation. Enis On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Chris Riccomini criccomini@gmail.comwrote: Hey Henry and Debo,

Re: [VOTE] Graduation of Apache Mesos

2013-06-13 Thread Alex Karasulu
+1 (binding) On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.comwrote: Looks good! +1 On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 10:03 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: Hi All, The Apache Mesos community is ready to graduate. They have added

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Mesos 0.12.0-incubating (RC1)

2013-06-12 Thread Alex Karasulu
No worries on the checksum. Looking good ... +1 (binding) On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 7:45 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: Hey Henry, Either way I don't think it's doctrine -- I've seen releases and voted on them with or without. I think it's nice to have a

Re: Vote on personal matters: majority vote vs consensus

2013-03-27 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 12:11 AM, Niall Pemberton niall.pember...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 12:12 AM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com wrote: One alternative to going for full-on majority voting is to

Re: Identifying and removing inactive mentors

2013-03-24 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 10:43 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: ...I would offer a compromise process. If someone does not even sign off the report for two or three months running, send an

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Accept MRQL into the Incubator

2013-03-17 Thread Alex Karasulu
apologize again for my mistake. The Sponsors are changed as following: == Champion == * Alex Karasulu akarasulu AT apache DOT org == Nominated Mentors == * Alex Karasulu akarasulu AT apache DOT org * Mohammad Nour mnour AT apache DOT org * Alan Cabrera adc

Re: [INVALID][RESULT][VOTE] Accept MRQL into the Incubator

2013-03-16 Thread Alex Karasulu
Looks like we can call this finally closed and approved. Edward I think we can carry forward now. On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.comwrote: True. I'm totally down with your reasoning. But don't you think it might be a formality we need to comply with,

Re: [INVALID][RESULT][VOTE] Accept MRQL into the Incubator

2013-03-15 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Edward J. Yoon edwardy...@apache.orgwrote: could you please close the Create MRQL tasks in the Infra Jira until the situation has been cleared up. Whenever this all has been sorted out you can reopen the issues. Sure. Since this might not be fixed soon,

Re: [INVALID][RESULT][VOTE] Accept MRQL into the Incubator

2013-03-15 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 3:01 PM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Alex Karasulu akaras...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Edward J. Yoon edwardy...@apache.org wrote: could you please close the Create MRQL tasks in the Infra

Re: [VOTE] Accept Tajo into the Apache Incubator

2013-03-07 Thread Alex Karasulu
? Thanks, all. -- Owen On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Alex Karasulu akaras...@apache.org wrote: On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 3:48 AM, Alex Karasulu akaras...@apache.org wrote: +1 (binding) Just as an FYI, I'm also a mentor of this project. -- Best Regards, -- Alex -- Best Regards

Re: [VOTE] Accept MRQL into the Incubator

2013-03-06 Thread Alex Karasulu
corp) * Kuassi Mensah (Oracle corp) * Ambreesh Khanna (Oracle corp) * Karthik Kambatla (Cloudera) = Sponsors = == Champion == * Edward J. Yoon edwardyoon AT apache DOT org == Nominated Mentors == * Alex Karasulu akarasulu AT apache DOT org * Edward J. Yoon edwardyoon AT apache DOT org

Re: [PROPOSAL] MRQL for the Apache Incubator

2013-03-04 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 7:12 AM, Leonidas Fegaras fega...@cse.uta.edu wrote: == Champion == * Edward J. Yoon edwardyoon AT apache DOT org == Nominated Mentors == * Alex Karasulu akarasulu AT apache

Re: [VOTE] Accept Tajo into the Apache Incubator

2013-03-04 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 3:48 AM, Alex Karasulu akaras...@apache.org wrote: +1 (binding) Just as an FYI, I'm also a mentor of this project. -- Best Regards, -- Alex

Re: [VOTE] Accept Tajo into the Apache Incubator

2013-03-01 Thread Alex Karasulu
+1 (binding) On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 2:16 AM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.orgwrote: +1 (binding). I would also encourage you guys to take a look at Apache Bigtop as a way of integrating with the rest of Hadoop ecosystem and bring more testing into the fold. Looking forward to

Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache Knox Hadoop Gateway Project into the Incubator

2013-02-16 Thread Alex Karasulu
+1 (binding) On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 4:08 AM, Arun C Murthy a...@hortonworks.com wrote: +1 (binding) Arun On Feb 14, 2013, at 5:26 PM, Devaraj Das wrote: Hi Folks, Thanks for participating in the discussion. I'd like to call a VOTE for acceptance of Apache Knox Hadoop Gateway

Re: [PROPOSAL] Knox Hadoop Gateway Project

2013-02-12 Thread Alex Karasulu
I thought about this a bit last night. If y'all are interested I too could also mentor the project. That should add some diversity to the mentors list. I see value in it and would like to see this community succeed. I'm not affiliated with any company. On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 9:23 PM, Eric

Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] HCatalog to Graduate and become part of Apache Hive

2013-02-12 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: Hi, On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 6:03 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: ...I'm -1 on this graduation... -1 from me as well, I agree with Chris' points. Yes these were good

Re: [PROPOSAL] Knox Hadoop Gateway Project

2013-02-11 Thread Alex Karasulu
Hi Kevin, This sounds like a much needed project. I endorse the concept but as Bertrand pointed out you need a bit more diversity. Otherwise I see no problem with moving forward. Good luck! On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 4:55 PM, Kevin Minder kevin.min...@hortonworks.comwrote: Knox Gateway Proposal

Re: [VOTE] Graduate HCatalog from the incubator and become part of Hive

2013-02-05 Thread Alex Karasulu
+1 binding On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:28 PM, Owen O'Malley omal...@apache.org wrote: +1 (binding) On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Jakob Homan jgho...@gmail.com wrote: +1 Binding. On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 1:24 AM, Alexander Alten-Lorenz wget.n...@gmail.comwrote: +1, non-binding

Re: [VOTE][PROPOSAL] Hadoop Development Tools

2012-11-07 Thread Alex Karasulu
+1 On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 12:55 AM, Suresh Marru sma...@apache.org wrote: + 1 (binding) Suresh On Nov 6, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Adam Berry ambe...@yahoo-inc.com wrote: Hello, This proposal has been open for discussion for a a few weeks, so now submitting for a vote for this project to

Re: [VOTE] Accept Drill into the Apache Incubator

2012-08-08 Thread Alex Karasulu
+1 (binding) On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: +1 (binding). Good luck and sounds cool! Cheers, Chris On Aug 7, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: I would like to call a vote for accepting Drill for incubation in the

Re: Board will be proposing a new TLP

2012-06-30 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Emmanuel Lécharny elecha...@gmail.com wrote: Le 6/30/12 2:23 PM, Jim Jagielski a écrit : Since all code was developed w/i the ASF, by ASF people, and is under the ALv2 (either implied/confirmed by the authors or explicit in the code itself), there is some

Re: [VOTE] [PROPOSAL] Allura to enter the Incubator

2012-06-21 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 10:35 PM, Daniel Gruno rum...@cord.dk wrote: On 06/21/2012 06:34 PM, Rich Bowen wrote: [ ] +1 I recommend that Allura becomes an Apache Incubator project +1 (binding) -- Best Regards, -- Alex

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Parser

2012-06-01 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 5:37 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: On May 31, 2012 5:31 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: ... (that said, I agree: this seems like it should be a proposal to Commons, so we just need to handle that redirection) And I didn't read the proposal closely

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Parser

2012-06-01 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Alex Karasulu akaras...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 5:37 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: On May 31, 2012 5:31 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: ... (that said, I agree: this seems like it should be a proposal to Commons, so we

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Parser

2012-05-31 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 5:20 AM, Alex Karasulu akaras...@apache.org wrote: ... insufficient mass (from the committer perspective). We need a minimum of 3 committers to consider this a community applying to the Incubator

Re: Shepherds for podling reports

2012-05-05 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: On May 2, 2012, at 1:53 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote: Hi, In order to better share the effort of reviewing podling reports and giving constructive feedback where needed, I'd like to propose something like the shepherd

Re: [VOTE] CloudStack for Apache Incubator

2012-04-10 Thread Alex Karasulu
+1 (binding) -- Best Regards, -- Alex

Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-08 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Kevin Kluge kevin.kl...@citrix.com wrote: Brett, thanks for the comments. I put some responses in line. -Original Message- From: Brett Porter [mailto:br...@porterclan.net] On Behalf Of Brett Porter Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 4:53 PM To:

Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-04 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din nour.moham...@gmail.com wrote: Hi... On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Martijn Dashorst martijn.dasho...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 7:57 AM, Kevin Kluge kevin.kl...@citrix.com wrote: Citrix is pursuing patents based

Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] CloudStack for the Apache Incubator

2012-04-03 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 4:17 AM, Kevin Kluge kevin.kl...@citrix.com wrote: Thanks, Brett. We appreciate your help. -kevin -Original Message- From: Brett Porter [mailto:br...@porterclan.net] On Behalf Of Brett Porter Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 5:28 PM To:

Re: CloudStack Incubation proposal

2012-04-03 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 3:04 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.orgwrote: Minor nit: In economic terms, Apache OpenOffice and LibreOffice are not complementary. - Dennis In computing, an example of complements are hardware and software. Software vendors want the hardware to be

Re: [DISCUSS] - Packages renaming and backward compatibility (was: Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop podling from Apache Incubator)

2012-03-08 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 2:31 AM, Alex Karasulu akaras...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 3:03 AM, Leo Simons m...@leosimons.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul

Re: [DISCUSS] - Packages renaming and backward compatibility (was: Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop podling from Apache Incubator)

2012-03-08 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:57 PM, Doug Cutting cutt...@apache.org wrote: On 03/07/2012 11:31 PM, Alex Karasulu wrote: Not trying to beat a dead horse to death here but I'm starting to think that we might have had some basis to these package namespace issues. The recent private Lucene

Re: [DISCUSS] - Packages renaming and backward compatibility (was: Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop podling from Apache Incubator)

2012-03-08 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 1:09 AM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.comwrote: On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 12:43:47AM +0200, Alex Karasulu wrote: On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:57 PM, Doug Cutting cutt...@apache.org wrote: On 03/07/2012 11:31 PM, Alex Karasulu wrote: Not trying to beat a dead

Re: [DISCUSS] - Packages renaming and backward compatibility (was: Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop podling from Apache Incubator)

2012-03-07 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 3:03 AM, Leo Simons m...@leosimons.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: Leo, are you out there? Hmm? Oh, this again... Having company names or trademarks in java namespaces is a pretty stupid convention. It gets

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop podling from Apache Incubator

2012-02-29 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 4:06 AM, Daniel Kulp dk...@apache.org wrote: On Wednesday, February 29, 2012 1:13:30 AM Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: Hi Daniel... On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 1:07 AM, Daniel Kulp dk...@apache.org wrote: We had a very similar discussion about the back word

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop podling from Apache Incubator

2012-02-29 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 2:40 AM, Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din nour.moham...@gmail.com wrote: On the other hand, I totally respect that Cloudera's interest to support their customers and provide backword compatibility, but this is

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop podling from Apache Incubator

2012-02-29 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 29, 2012 4:15 AM, Alex Karasulu akaras...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 4:06 AM, Daniel Kulp dk...@apache.org wrote: On Wednesday, February 29, 2012 1:13:30 AM Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: Hi

Re: [DISCUSS] - Packages renaming and backward compatibility (was: Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop podling from Apache Incubator)

2012-02-29 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de wrote: strictly -1 for forcing a name change on graduation. Maybe we have some confusion here. No one is talking about changing the name of the podling. The discussion pertains to the presence of com.cloudera packages in the

Re: [DISCUSS] - Packages renaming and backward compatibility (was: Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop podling from Apache Incubator)

2012-02-29 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: Has nothing to do with incubation. You're talking about Foundation-wide policy. You cannot impose different naming rules on podlings, than what is imposed on TLPs. Please see my response in the original thread. You need a

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop podling from Apache Incubator

2012-02-29 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Alex Karasulu akaras...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 29, 2012 4:15 AM, Alex Karasulu akaras...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 4:06 AM, Daniel Kulp dk...@apache.org wrote

Re: [DISCUSS] - Packages renaming and backward compatibility (was: Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop podling from Apache Incubator)

2012-02-29 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din nour.moham...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Alex Karasulu akaras...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: Has nothing to do with incubation. You're talking about

Re: [DISCUSS] - Packages renaming and backward compatibility (was: Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop podling from Apache Incubator)

2012-02-29 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Alex Karasulu akaras...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: Has nothing to do with incubation. You're talking about Foundation-wide policy. You cannot impose different naming rules on podlings, than what

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop podling from Apache Incubator

2012-02-29 Thread Alex Karasulu
I'd like the address this and Greg's other email but let's move this over to the other discussion thread so this one can close and Scoop can continue forward. On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Ian Dickinson i...@epimorphics.com wrote: On 29/02/12 13:07, Alex Karasulu wrote: [snip

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop podling from Apache Incubator

2012-02-29 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 29, 2012 8:07 AM, Alex Karasulu akaras...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: ... They remain. Keeping them is the right thing for our community and product

Re: [DISCUSS] - Packages renaming and backward compatibility (was: Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop podling from Apache Incubator)

2012-02-29 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 29, 2012 8:45 AM, Alex Karasulu akaras...@apache.org wrote: ... OK do we have the right to create any kind of package or class under com.cloudera (or any other companies packages)? I'd like to approach

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop podling from Apache Incubator

2012-02-29 Thread Alex Karasulu
Seems we're continuing the discussion in both threads now. More inline ... On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Ian Dickinson i...@epimorphics.com wrote: On 29/02/12 13:07, Alex Karasulu wrote: [snip] There is no legal (trademark or copyright) problem that I'm aware

Re: [DISCUSS] - Packages renaming and backward compatibility (was: Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop podling from Apache Incubator)

2012-02-29 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.comwrote: I don't think it's a good question. I think that it is typical of the sort of hypothetical question which leads to heaps of scorn from Sam. Please! Don't invoke Sam :). Jokes aside take a look the my last two posts

Re: [DISCUSS] - Packages renaming and backward compatibility (was: Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop podling from Apache Incubator)

2012-02-29 Thread Alex Karasulu
we definitely need to update the Incubator documents to clear this kind of issue. But before starting the vote I would like to consider others' opinions. Thoughts ? On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Alex Karasulu akaras...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 2:40 AM

Re: [DISCUSS] - Packages renaming and backward compatibility (was: Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop podling from Apache Incubator)

2012-02-29 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 5:23 AM, Alex Karasulu akaras...@apache.org wrote: The discussion pertains to the presence of com.cloudera packages in the source code of a podling for the sake of backwards compatibility

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop podling from Apache Incubator

2012-02-29 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Ate Douma a...@douma.nu wrote: On 02/29/2012 02:45 PM, Greg Stein wrote: On Feb 29, 2012 8:07 AM, Alex Karasuluakaras...@apache.org** wrote: On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Greg Steingst...@gmail.com wrote: ... They remain. Keeping them is the right

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop podling from Apache Incubator

2012-02-29 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:11 PM, Doug Cutting cutt...@apache.org wrote: On 02/29/2012 01:33 AM, Alex Karasulu wrote: No project should be allowed to graduate without solving all issues pertaining to marks. It's a failure of the incubator in the past for allowing other projects to do so

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop podling from Apache Incubator

2012-02-29 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Doug Cutting cutt...@apache.org wrote: On 02/29/2012 06:19 AM, Alex Karasulu wrote: The class/package names are merely not being deleted. Presuming that the original code was part of the inceptional code grant, one can conclude that the company

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Rave as TLP

2012-02-28 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Ate Douma a...@douma.nu wrote: +1 (binding) +1 (binding) -- Best Regards, -- Alex

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop podling from Apache Incubator

2012-02-28 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:10 PM, Alan Gates ga...@hortonworks.com wrote: The source code in Sqoop still exists in both com.cloudera.sqoop and org.apache.sqoop packages and most of the code appears to include the com.cloudera packages and not the org.apache packages. While in the incubator

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop podling from Apache Incubator

2012-02-28 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Alex Karasulu akaras...@apache.org wrote: Cloudera's compatibility issues are not our problem. These packages need to go. Citation needed. I did not think we needed one

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop podling from Apache Incubator

2012-02-28 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din nour.moham...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Ate Douma a...@douma.nu wrote: On 02/28/2012 01:46 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: Hi... 1st of all, and I speaking about myself here, I believe this is

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop podling from Apache Incubator

2012-02-28 Thread Alex Karasulu
, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Alex Karasulu akaras...@apache.org wrote: I'm not sure that JSR specs are the same as old Cloudera code. JMHO. How about phrasing it as old Sqoop code instead. :-) Really it's about respect for existing users and others migrating to Apache. It's also about respect

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop podling from Apache Incubator

2012-02-28 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Alex Karasulu akaras...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org wrote: I agree that this potentially could be an issue, but whether it's

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop podling from Apache Incubator

2012-02-28 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:53 PM, Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Alan D. Cabrera a...@toolazydogs.com wrote: Opps, I didn't see that Arvind concluded the vote. I still

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop podling from Apache Incubator

2012-02-28 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Arvind Prabhakar arv...@apache.orgwrote: On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:53 PM, Patrick Hunt ph...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Alan D. Cabrera

Re: [VOTE] Jukka Zitting for IPMC Chair (was Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)

2012-02-10 Thread Alex Karasulu
[X] +1 Recommend Jukka Zitting for the IPMC chair position. +1

Re: [VOTE][PROPOSAL] Syncope join the Incubator

2012-02-07 Thread Alex Karasulu
+1 (binding) -- Best of Luck, -- Alex

Re: [DISCUSS] Syncope to Join the Apache Incubator

2012-02-03 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Maurizio Cucchiara mcucchi...@apache.orgwrote: Hi, I can't abstain from taking part (the call of the patriotic spirit). Jokes apart, I'm strongly interested in Identity Management (I have been looking for a good solution without success for a long time) and I

Re: [DISCUSS] Syncope to Join the Apache Incubator

2012-02-01 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.comwrote: On 1 February 2012 09:06, Emmanuel Lecharny elecha...@gmail.com wrote: On 2/1/12 1:04 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: Dear Proposed Syncope mentors: Please post messages on this thread indicating your prior

Re: [DISCUSS] Syncope to Join the Apache Incubator

2012-01-31 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de wrote: Hi Simo! Sounds like a really nice project. But I wonder if there is some overlap with the Apache Shiro project [1]? They're not the same as some have pointed out yet even if they were there's nothing wrong with

Re: [VOTE] Bloodhound to join the Incubator

2011-12-20 Thread Alex Karasulu
Please vote: [X] +1 Accept Bloodhound for incubation [ ] +0 Don't care [ ] -1 Don't accept Bloodhound for incubation (please explain) The world needs a great issue tracker, and starting from the Trac base is Goodness. Indeed. +1 -- Best Regards, -- Alex

Re: [VOTE] Graduate ACE from the Apache Incubator

2011-11-21 Thread Alex Karasulu
+1 binding ... Cheers, Alex On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 2:07 PM, dav...@apache.org wrote: +1 (non-binding). It would be great to see Ace as a top level project. Best regards, David Bosschaert On 19 November 2011 01:33, Julien Vermillard jvermill...@gmail.com wrote: +1 binding On

Re: [VOTE] Graduate ACE from the Apache Incubator

2011-11-21 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Karl Pauls karlpa...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 4:11 PM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Richard S. Hall he...@ungoverned.org wrote: On 11/21/11 09:41 , ant elder wrote: On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 2:18 PM,

Re: Fw: [VOTE] Graduate ACE from the Apache Incubator

2011-11-21 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Guillaume Nodet gno...@gmail.com wrote: That's really a good question. I'm using apache projects a lot but I've never downloaded a single source release since ages, mostly using svn to checkout / build, or maven source jars for debugging within the ide as you

Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache Callback for incubation

2011-10-12 Thread Alex Karasulu
+1 On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:09 PM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote: Please VOTE: [ X] +1 Accept Apache Callback for incubation -Bertrand

Re: [VOTE] Release HCatalog 0.2-incubating (RC1)

2011-09-29 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 2:40 AM, Alan Gates ga...@hortonworks.com wrote: +1 Verified checksums and signatures on both rpms and src tarball. Checked rat report. Verified LICENSE, NOTICE, and DISCLAIMER files. Tested the installation process, from both tarball and rpms. Ran the build and

Re: [VOTE] Accumulo to join the Incubator

2011-09-10 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Doug Cutting cutt...@apache.org wrote: [ X ] +1 Accept Accumulo for incubation Binding. --Alex - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail:

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