Re: [VOTE] Graduation of Apache MetaModel from the Incubator

2014-11-14 Thread Noah Slater
ankitkumar2711 at apache dot org * Arvind Prabhakar arvind at apache dot org * Henry Saputra hsaputra at apache dot org * Juan Jose van der Linden delostilos at apache dot org * Kasper Sørensen kaspersor at apache dot org * Matt Franklin mfanklin at apache dot org * Noah Slater nslater at apache dot org

Re: Committer Voting and Vetos

2014-09-26 Thread Noah Slater
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Re: Committer Voting and Vetos

2014-09-26 Thread Noah Slater
- The shape of your community For young projects, I would recommend being strict, and then loosening up if you start to have problems. On Friday, 26 September 2014, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote: As the primary author of the CouchDB bylaws, I will weigh in here. Agree with Ross

Re: Draft Report July 2014 - please review

2014-07-09 Thread Noah Slater
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Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Stratos as a TLP

2014-05-02 Thread Noah Slater
) Suresh Marru (sma...@apache.org) Chip Childers (chipchild...@apache.org) Joe Brockmeier (j...@apache.org) Noah Slater (nsla...@apache.org) Nandana Mihindukulasooriya (nand...@apache.org) Isuru Perera (is...@apache.org) Reka Thirunavakurussu

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Stratos as a TLP

2014-04-28 Thread Noah Slater
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When to sign-off on Incubator reports?

2014-04-08 Thread Noah Slater
I endorse it. If I don't, it looks like I am inattentive. I pinged about getting the report done last week, and only just noticed it was added to the wiki without an announcement. Thanks, -- Noah Slater https://twitter.com/nslater

Re: When to sign-off on Incubator reports?

2014-04-08 Thread Noah Slater
. Though certainly possible I accidentally deleted a thread about it. On 8 April 2014 13:11, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 3:29 AM, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote: If a podling you are mentoring completes its report late, and there are sections

Re: When to sign-off on Incubator reports?

2014-04-08 Thread Noah Slater
, that is, with comments, if there's things you need to say. Upayavira +1 to that. And its still over a week till the baord meeting and lots of mentors active in Stratos so its not like there are surprises. ...ant -- Noah Slater https://twitter.com/nslater

Re: When to sign-off on Incubator reports?

2014-04-08 Thread Noah Slater
Okay, all sorted. Thanks for the feedback! On 8 April 2014 14:46, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote: The deadline is tonight, and the report is supposed to be submitted tomorrow. On 8 April 2014 14:33, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Upayavira u

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Release Apache Metamodel 4.0.0 incubating

2014-01-22 Thread Noah Slater
Congrats! On 21 January 2014 13:05, Ankit Kumar ak.ankitku...@gmail.com wrote: HI All, The vote for Apache Metamodel 4.0.0-incubating is closed. The vote passes with 4(+1) votes. Following IPMC votes were received. *+1* hsaputra mfranklin arvind nslater Regards Ankit -- Noah

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Release Apache Metamodel 4.0.0 incubating

2014-01-22 Thread Noah Slater
of by Ankit's release procedure, or do we need to do something more for the distribution part of the release? 2014/1/22 Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org Congrats! On 21 January 2014 13:05, Ankit Kumar ak.ankitku...@gmail.com wrote: HI All, The vote for Apache Metamodel 4.0.0-incubating

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Metamodel 4.0.0 incubating

2014-01-19 Thread Noah Slater
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Metamodel 4.0.0 incubating

2014-01-15 Thread Noah Slater
/%3CCALuGr6aPmPwKgGb5ft%3Dy_BDKPwBKbS7g7QR%2BS6YHAkVg6_nH%2Bg%40mail.gmail.com%3E Please vote on releasing this package as Apache MetaModel 4.0.0-incubating. The vote is open until 16th January 2014 14:00 CET and passes if a majority of at least 3 IPMC votes are cast. Regards Ankit -- Noah

Re: [IP Clearance] CouchDB: rcouch

2013-10-16 Thread Noah Slater
is up on: zip: http://dl.refuge.io/rcouch-0.7.1.tar.gz sha: 332b09635d9ca55122ee02903984808f183a4674 The IP Clearance document: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/public/trunk/content/ip-clearance/couchdb-rcouch.xml?view=cocontent-type=text%2Fplain Thanks! Jan -- -- Noah

Re: Creating announce@ lists by default

2013-07-03 Thread Noah Slater
Nice. Thanks Marvin! On 3 July 2013 06:00, Craig L Russell craig.russ...@oracle.com wrote: Marvin, Nice work. +1 Craig On Jul 2, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote: Hey Marvin, Did you get anywhere

Re: Creating announce@ lists by default

2013-07-03 Thread Noah Slater
. That way, people looking for specific information about current practices will not have to wade through historical information. Eric On 7/2/13 6:59 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote: Hey Marvin, Did you get anywhere

Re: [IP CLEARANCE] BigCouch

2013-06-26 Thread Noah Slater
Woop! Thanks Bob! +1 On 26 June 2013 13:55, Robert Newson rnew...@apache.org wrote: Cloudant has donated the source code artifact detailed at [1] to the ASF. This email is to request lazy consensus from the IPMC for the IP clearance of this donation. B [1]

Re: [IP CLEARANCE] BigCouch

2013-06-26 Thread Noah Slater
being filed that details the contribution? - Dennis -Original Message- From: Noah Slater [mailto:nsla...@apache.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 06:03 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [IP CLEARANCE] BigCouch Woop! Thanks Bob! +1 On 26 June 2013 13:55, Robert

Re: [IP CLEARANCE] BigCouch

2013-06-26 Thread Noah Slater
2013 17:35, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote: Ah, I see what you are saying. I believe this might just be some unfortunate wording in the IP Clearance template. This: Check and make sure that the files that have been donated have been updated to reflect the new ASF copyright. Might

Re: [IP CLEARANCE] BigCouch

2013-06-26 Thread Noah Slater
has no power to sue for infringement of copyright in the contributed works, nor any patent infringement related to the use of the contributed works.) -Original Message- From: Noah Slater [mailto:nsla...@apache.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 08:14 AM To: general

Re: [IP CLEARANCE] BigCouch

2013-06-26 Thread Noah Slater
Copyright to Licensing too. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Robert Newson [mailto:rnew...@apache.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 09:36 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org; dennis.hamil...@acm.org Cc: Noah Slater Subject: Re: [IP CLEARANCE] BigCouch Dennis, I'm following

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stratos proposal as an incubating project

2013-06-20 Thread Noah Slater
Woot. Thanks Ross! On 20 June 2013 12:26, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: This vote is now closed. The Vote passed. Podling committers can start the process of setting up the project [1] (note some actions require the support of your mentors). There are no -1 votes and

Re: [DISCUSS] Accept Stratos as an Apache Incubation Project

2013-06-13 Thread Noah Slater
Ross, thanks for bringing this up! I'm happy to be a part of this experiment. On 13 June 2013 09:13, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: Better yes - required before we can vote - no. My reasoning is that WSO2 have already agreed they will use a different name if VP Branding

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Accept Apache MetaModel into the Apache incubator

2013-06-13 Thread Noah Slater
* Chris Mattmann* Noah Slater* Rahul Sharma Ankit Kumar Christian Grobmeier* Arvind Prabhakar* Kasper Sorensen Noah Slater* Manuel Van den Berg Joe Brockmeier* Suresh Marru* Ted Dunning* Rich Bowen Alan Cabrera* Marcel Offermans* Alex Karasulu* 0s: None -1s: None This means

Re: [DISCUSS] Accept Stratos as an Apache Incubation Project

2013-06-13 Thread Noah Slater
On 13 June 2013 11:21, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: This is the root of why CouchDB has a problem today. I believe you a projecting that problem and its cause onto a different issue here. This is not about allowing WSO2 an exception to the existing policy. It is about

Re: [PROPOSAL] MetaModel for the Apache Incubator

2013-06-06 Thread Noah Slater
the discussions have calmed down so if no one object I will start the VOTE thread sometime today. Thanks, Henry On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:24 AM, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote: Great. I assume that if someone is eager to join as a mentor and the vote is already done, we can add

Re: [PROPOSAL] MetaModel for the Apache Incubator

2013-05-31 Thread Noah Slater
I would be interested in mentoring this project. (I am a CouchDB PMC member.) On Tuesday, 28 May 2013, Henry Saputra wrote: Dear ASF members, We would like to propose MetaModel for the incubator. Matt Franklin will be the Champion for this project and the proposal draft is available at:

Re: [PROPOSAL] MetaModel for the Apache Incubator

2013-05-31 Thread Noah Slater
Sure! On Friday, 31 May 2013, Henry Saputra wrote: Awesome! Looks like perfect match too! Can I also add you as initial contributors? - Henry On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote: I would be interested in mentoring this project. (I am a CouchDB PMC

[ANNOUNCE] Joe Brockmeier joins the Incubator PMC

2013-05-13 Thread Noah Slater
Dear community, I am pleased to announce that Joe Brockmeier joins the Incubator PMC. Please join me in extending a warm welcome to Joe! On behalf of the Incubator PMC, -- NS

Re: Creating announce@ lists by default

2013-05-09 Thread Noah Slater
Hey Marvin, Did you get anywhere with this? Thanks, On 30 March 2013 15:39, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 8:06 AM, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote: Thanks Greg. Sane advice. I'll add this to my todo list and see if I can come up with a patch

Re: [META DISCUSS] talking about the overall state of this PMC

2013-05-07 Thread Noah Slater
On 7 May 2013 16:55, Upayavira u...@odoko.co.uk wrote: I guess that could be automated (grep through mail archives for mentor email addresses each month), but until that happens[...] This could be done in a one-off fashion with a simple sh pipe. I'm not fond of to addressing social problems

Re: [META DISCUSS] talking about the overall state of this PMC

2013-05-07 Thread Noah Slater
Not really. It's a heartbeat/health-check like any other distributed, unreliable system. I was tempted to say it's a social implementation of STONITH, but that might send the wrong message. ;) On 8 May 2013 00:53, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: On 7 May 2013 08:56, Bertrand

Re: Incubator structure (was Re: Vote on personal matters: majority vote vs consensus)

2013-04-03 Thread Noah Slater
for the whole problem...) On 3 April 2013 09:29, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote: As far as I understand your comment, Ant, you mean to say that he problem is that there is too much variation in opinion and approach

Re: Incubator structure (was Re: Vote on personal matters: majority vote vs consensus)

2013-04-02 Thread Noah Slater
As far as I understand your comment, Ant, you mean to say that he problem is that there is too much variation in opinion and approach. (Primarily, I understand, in relation to releases.) This doesn't seem related to the size of the PMC, to me. We're always going to need a large pool of people

[ANNOUNCE] David Nalley joins the Incubator PMC

2013-04-02 Thread Noah Slater
Dear community, I am pleased to announce that David Nalley joins the Incubator PMC. Please join me in extending a warm welcome to David! On behalf of the Incubator PMC, -- NS

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Henry Saputra as new Incubator PMC member

2013-04-02 Thread Noah Slater
Welcome, Henry! On 2 April 2013 16:53, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: Hi All, Please join me in welcoming Henry Saputra to the Incubator PMC. Henry, welcome! Please feel free to share a bit about yourself. Cheers, Chris

Re: Process, policy and best practice

2013-04-01 Thread Noah Slater
ComDev could work to attract volunteers. I am sure there are more than a few people on the Incubator dev@ list at the moment who might consider moving over here to work on process and policy documentation... On 1 April 2013 19:19, Luciano Resende luckbr1...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 1, 2013

Re: Creating announce@ lists by default

2013-03-30 Thread Noah Slater
Thanks Greg. Sane advice. I'll add this to my todo list and see if I can come up with a patch for the docs. On 28 March 2013 06:50, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote: ... I don't believe we should force an announce@ list

Re: Creating announce@ lists by default

2013-03-30 Thread Noah Slater
I really like this idea, Marvin. If you're gonna run with it, I'll take a step back. On 30 March 2013 15:39, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 8:06 AM, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote: Thanks Greg. Sane advice. I'll add this to my todo list and see

Re: Creating announce@ lists by default

2013-03-27 Thread Noah Slater
Bertrand, yes, I am not sold on the idea of doing it by default. But perhaps sort of advisory, highlighting it as an option, and giving reasons why it might be a good idea for some projects? What would I have to do to add that? If I prepare a patch to the docs, would it be CTR or RTC? On 27

Re: Creating announce@ lists by default

2013-03-27 Thread Noah Slater
On 27 March 2013 16:28, Luciano Resende luckbr1...@gmail.com wrote: Do the general announce list lag behind because there are individual lists ? I see no reason why they would. On 27 March 2013 16:31, Luciano Resende luckbr1...@gmail.com wrote: The minute that is in the guides, I'm

Re: Creating announce@ lists by default

2013-03-27 Thread Noah Slater
Putting it in policy is probably as close as we can get to automation. ;) On 27 March 2013 17:23, Luciano Resende luckbr1...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote: So we just set out a policy for podlings to follow that says something like

Re: Creating announce@ lists by default

2013-03-27 Thread Noah Slater
On 27 March 2013 18:37, Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de wrote: My personal experience: There are a few people registered to annou...@apache.org, but there is a low registration rate for the respective subproject lists. At least not for most projects. That's to be expected, though, right? We

Creating announce@ lists by default

2013-03-26 Thread Noah Slater
Incubator, Is there a reason we don't recommend podlings create an announce@ list by default? I am under the impression that having a low-volume, high-signal announcement channel is generally beneficial to most projects that try it. And comes with almost zero Infra overhead. I had a chat about

Re: Creating announce@ lists by default

2013-03-26 Thread Noah Slater
seems like too much for little gain. The users list should suffice for announcements (with [ANN] in the subject). -JZ On Mar 26, 2013, at 4:05 AM, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote: Incubator, Is there a reason we don't recommend podlings create an announce@ list by default

Re: Creating announce@ lists by default

2013-03-26 Thread Noah Slater
Yep. Obviously, I'm aware we have a foundation-wide announce list. :) It's not very helpful for people who are only interested in one or two projects, however. If I am using Hadoop, and only care about knowing about new Hadoop releases or security disclosures, I do not want to: a) subscribe to

Re: Creating announce@ lists by default

2013-03-26 Thread Noah Slater
are useful. On 26 March 2013 17:44, Luciano Resende luckbr1...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote: Yep. Obviously, I'm aware we have a foundation-wide announce list. :) It's not very helpful for people who are only interested in one or two

Re: [VOTE] Graduate CloudStack from Incubator

2013-03-14 Thread Noah Slater
in the project-level thread are: * Mohammad Nour El-Din (IPMC/mentor) [7] * Noah Slater (IPMC/mentor) [8] * Alex Karasulu (IPMC/mentor) [9] * Brett Porter (IPMC/mentor) [10] Please cast your votes: [ ] +1 Graduate Apache CloudStack from Apache Incubator [ ] +0 Indifferent to graduation status

Re: Shipping binary file in CloudStack release

2012-10-31 Thread Noah Slater
Thanks for the clarification Roy. On 31 October 2012 05:29, Roy T. Fielding field...@gbiv.com wrote: [generic incubator comments -- nothing specific to CloudStack] ... On Oct 29, 2012, at 8:01 AM, Noah Slater wrote: On 29 October 2012 14:48, Chip Childers chip.child...@sungard.com wrote

Re: [VOTE] Apache CloudStack 4.0.0-incubating

2012-10-30 Thread Noah Slater
have already been cast (on cloudstack-dev): +1 (PPMC / binding) * Jim Jagielski (mentor) * Olivier Lamy (mentor) * Brett Porter (mentor) * Daniel Kulp (mentor) * Noah Slater (mentor) There were no -1 or +0 votes cast. Instructions for Validating and Testing the artifacts can be found here

Re: [VOTE] Apache CloudStack 4.0.0-incubating

2012-10-30 Thread Noah Slater
Uh, would be handy if I included my vote. ;) An emphatic +1 On 30 October 2012 19:51, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote: Sig: OK Hashes: OK RAT: OK Source: OK Build: OK Tests: OK (Based on my voting from yesterday during the project vote.) (See my post to this list yesterday about

Re: Shipping binary file in CloudStack release

2012-10-29 Thread Noah Slater
On 29 October 2012 14:48, Chip Childers chip.child...@sungard.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote: Thanks for following up Chip. Though I do just want to clarify one misconception. On 29 October 2012 13:21, Chip Childers chip.child

Re: Shipping binary file in CloudStack release

2012-10-29 Thread Noah Slater
On 29 October 2012 15:13, Chip Childers chip.child...@sungard.com wrote: I'll try to be more clear next time. I'm holding the vote open specifically because of this outstanding question, *regardless* of the current tally. That's what I was expressing. Understood. I suspected we were on

Re: Shipping binary file in CloudStack release

2012-10-29 Thread Noah Slater
Nice summary Bertrand. On 29 October 2012 15:22, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.orgwrote: Hi, On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Chip Childers chip.child...@sungard.com wrote: ...Waf is a packaging utility, used to create RPMs and DEBs. Work is currently ongoing to remove it (and

Re: Shipping binary file in CloudStack release

2012-10-29 Thread Noah Slater
Thanks for investigating this, Chip. I am happy with us proceeding, but would caution us to think about addressing or documenting this in a later release. I'd say wait until tomorrow to see if anyone else objects then wrap up the vote. Let's ship this thing! On 29 October 2012 16:21, Chip

Shipping binary file in CloudStack release

2012-10-28 Thread Noah Slater
Hey, We're just voting on our first release, and I spotted this file in the root of the source: https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-cloudstack.git;a=blob_plain;f=waf;hb=HEAD It seems to be a sort of hybrid source/binary file. Very strange. Can we ship this? Thanks, -- NS

Re: key signing

2012-10-16 Thread Noah Slater
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.comwrote: 1) send email to him and his PMC fellows, referencing this thread, as evidence that key signing is nice but optional. This seems like the most sensible option. AFAIK, signed keys have never been required to sign

Re: key signing

2012-10-16 Thread Noah Slater
It had to be done, given this thread's epic proportions... ;) [image: Identity] http://xkcd.com/1121/ On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.comwrote: I'm offering this discussion here, but it might need to go elsewhere if it goes anywhere at all. It seems to me

Re: ${podling}.incubator.apache.org

2012-10-12 Thread Noah Slater
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din nour.moham...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm, didn't notice that thread before, but still, as Joe pointed, INFRA should give their opinion about it. Does Daniel's original email not qualify for that? ;) -- NS

Re: key signing

2012-10-11 Thread Noah Slater
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Nick Kew n...@apache.org wrote: You have to extend that assumption not only to our infrastructure but to every proxy that might come between us and a user, and that might substitute a trojan along with the trojan's own SHA1. The same reasoning holds for the

Re: key signing

2012-10-11 Thread Noah Slater
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 9:48 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 October 2012 02:39, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote: Greg Stein wrote on Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 21:31:30 -0400: Not too much. We still instruct users take the signatures and verify them against

Re: key signing

2012-10-10 Thread Noah Slater
AM, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com wrote: If you know the person, it adds something that you don't get. On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Noah Slater nsla...@tumbolia.org wrote: What, precisely, does a video call actually provide? The point of meeting in person is to verify photo IDs

Re: key signing

2012-10-10 Thread Noah Slater
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com wrote: I have friends who live far away. I know them well. I don't know their key fingerprint. If we send emails or if we text back and forth I not clear that it is them. If I have a video conference and the hold up the

Re: key signing

2012-10-10 Thread Noah Slater
I've said it already in this thread, but I will say it one last time before I drop it. Archiving video provides zero benefits, beyond the human to human connection of seeing what somebody looks like. It provides no way to establish identity or ownership of email/keys that email does not already

Re: key signing

2012-10-10 Thread Noah Slater
Most people develop their own key signing policy and publish it. Or organisations as a whole do, and ask their members to adhere to it. Something which we might want to consider formalising. On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:18 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.comwrote: Just to be clear, I don't

Re: key signing - trust path check

2012-10-10 Thread Noah Slater
done a ton of work documenting and verifying release signing and keys: https://people.apache.org/~**henkp/trust/https://people.apache.org/~henkp/trust/ - Shane On 10/8/2012 6:37 PM, Noah Slater wrote: Found one... Just poking around manually... J. Daniel Kulp dk...@apache.org http

Re: key signing

2012-10-09 Thread Noah Slater
, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.comwrote: On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Noah Slater nsla...@tumbolia.org wrote: 1. The key owner convinces the signer that the identity in the UID is indeed their own identity by whatever evidence the signer is willing to accept as convincing. Usually

Re: key signing

2012-10-08 Thread Noah Slater
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.comwrote: There's another side to this, which I would derisively label, 'so what'? How does it help a user to see that my key is signed by 27 of my fellow Apache contributors, if the user has never met any of us, and has

Re: key signing

2012-10-08 Thread Noah Slater
This is an important point. Debian has a complete toolset and guidelines for managing this. http://www.debian.org/events/keysigning To quote: People should only sign a key under at least two conditions: 1. The key owner convinces the signer that the identity in the UID is indeed their own

Re: key signing

2012-10-08 Thread Noah Slater
8, 2012 at 10:37 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Noah Slater nsla...@tumbolia.org wrote: On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: There's another side to this, which I would derisively label, 'so what

Re: key signing

2012-10-08 Thread Noah Slater
Caveat: But I do think that if we do have a key signing guide (and I think we should) then it should be strict about our standards. (i.e. when and when not to sign somebody's key. Basic QA on what sort of trust we're trying to build here.) On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:15 PM, Noah Slater nsla

Re: key signing

2012-10-08 Thread Noah Slater
I don't know how to check that. Heh. Would be interested in giving it a shot. Are there tools to look up graphs? On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.comwrote: Let's try a little statistically-invalid experiment of sample size one. The last time I had a key

Re: key signing

2012-10-08 Thread Noah Slater
Found one... Just poking around manually... J. Daniel Kulp dk...@apache.org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindexsearch=0x858FC4C4F43856A3 Signed by Carsten Ziegeler cziege...@apache.org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindexsearch=0x132E49D4E41EDC7E Signed by Marcus Crafter

Re: Project websites

2012-10-07 Thread Noah Slater
CloudStack dev@ should be copied in on this thread. On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 7:43 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.orgwrote: Hi, On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 1:22 AM, Sheng Liang sheng.li...@citrix.com wrote: ... 1. When shall we redirect cloudstack.org to the Apache project page?

Seperate list for JIRA tickets

2012-10-05 Thread Noah Slater
Hey, The CloudStack dev@ list is... VERY high traffic. A lot of that are JIRA notifications. Can we, per Incubator policy, set up an issues@ list? (And STRONGLY encourage committers to subscribe to it.) I have not checked with the community to see if they want this, but I want to understand if

Re: Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board report for Oct 2012 ([ppmc])

2012-10-04 Thread Noah Slater
at 1:19 AM, Noah Slater nsla...@tumbolia.org wrote: I had seen the earlier reminder, but had not made a calendar event for it. So when the 24 hour reminder came in, along with a quick draft that was posted before I checked my email, I felt a little blindsided. Would be nice to have

Re: How to handle non-OS jars in repository

2012-10-03 Thread Noah Slater
We have a situation with CloudStack where we have some jars that we do not know our distribution rights. If it turns out that we do not have the right to distribute them (Apache compatibility aside) what course of action should we take? On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Upayavira u...@odoko.co.uk

Can someone add me to the wiki Contributor Group?

2012-10-03 Thread Noah Slater
Hey, I'm trying to sign off on a board report, but I don't have edit permission. Can someone add me to the wiki Contributor Group? Thanks, -- NS

Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board report for Oct 2012 ([ppmc])

2012-10-03 Thread Noah Slater
Can we please adjust this system to send the notice out two days prior? As it stands, this notice gives the project a single day to prepare the board report. As it happens, I missed it, because I didn't check my mail yesterday. Which is annoying, because I had some comments on what was proposed.

Re: Can someone add me to the wiki Contributor Group?

2012-10-03 Thread Noah Slater
Heh. NoahSlater :P On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 11:50 PM, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote: Noah Slater wrote: I'm trying to sign off on a board report, but I don't have edit permission. Can someone add me to the wiki Contributor Group? If you tell us your username. -David

Re: Can someone add me to the wiki Contributor Group?

2012-10-03 Thread Noah Slater
Danke! On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 11:59 PM, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote: Noah Slater wrote: Heh. NoahSlater :P Done. -David - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional

Re: Fwd: Incubator PMC/Board report for Oct 2012 ([ppmc])

2012-10-03 Thread Noah Slater
, as is customary in Apache. On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 12:15 AM, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote: Noah Slater wrote: Can we please adjust this system to send the notice out two days prior? As it stands, this notice gives the project a single day to prepare the board report. As it happens

Re: [VOTE] Apache Cordova (incubating) 2.1.0

2012-10-02 Thread Noah Slater
Congrats! On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Steven Gill stevengil...@gmail.com wrote: The vote has now closed. The results are: Bertrand Delacretaz +1 Olivier Lamy + 1 Along with the 17 other +1's which can be viewed at http://markmail.org/thread/lkgvtg3t6r3wxvwj. The vote is

Re: How to handle non-OS jars in repository

2012-10-01 Thread Noah Slater
Okay, thanks. :) On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.comwrote: Podling frequently check in dubious IP as part of initial imports, and then clean up HEAD later. I've never seen any evidence of a more thorough extirpation.

How to handle non-OS jars in repository

2012-09-30 Thread Noah Slater
Hey, It came up on the CloudStack list that we have non-OS (I don't know the specific license, but I can find out if it's important) jars in the repository, and some people (at least one) is downloading them from that location for convenience. Obviously, we're not going to ship them, and we can

Re: How to handle non-OS jars in repository

2012-09-30 Thread Noah Slater
directly from version control history? Where do they find the references to their existence there? Noah Slater wrote on Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 22:41:53 +0100: Hey, It came up on the CloudStack list that we have non-OS (I don't know the specific license, but I can find out if it's important

Re: How to handle non-OS jars in repository

2012-09-30 Thread Noah Slater
. Those are the only two that jump to mind that weren't under some sort of an open source license, but my memory might be fallible. On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Noah Slater nsla...@tumbolia.org wrote: In relation to the non-OS jars, Chiradeep Vittal wrote: I am currently downloading them from

Re: How to handle non-OS jars in repository

2012-09-30 Thread Noah Slater
Thanks. :) On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.namewrote: If you've not released it and you've deleted it from HEAD of all branches, I think you're fine. Noah Slater wrote on Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 23:09:45 +0100: Okay cool. My root concern was that we have

Re: [VOTE] Apache Cordova (incubating) 2.1.0

2012-09-24 Thread Noah Slater
Speaking as CouchDB's RM, I would consider missing license headers a blocker. Are rules more lax within the Incubator? On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 7:23 PM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: I had

Re: [VOTE] Apache Cordova (incubating) 2.1.0

2012-09-24 Thread Noah Slater
Okay, thanks. :) On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 10:16 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Noah Slater nsla...@tumbolia.org wrote: Speaking as CouchDB's RM, I would consider missing license headers a blocker. Are rules more lax within the Incubator

[RESULT] (Was: Re: [IP CLEARANCE] CouchDB Docs)

2012-09-19 Thread Noah Slater
I'm closing this thread (a bit late) with a lazy consensus. IP clearance is complete. On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Noah Slater nsla...@tumbolia.org wrote: Anyone else? This is our first time doing this. I just wanna be sure we've covered all bases? On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Noah

Re: [IP CLEARANCE] CouchDB Docs

2012-09-13 Thread Noah Slater
Anyone else? This is our first time doing this. I just wanna be sure we've covered all bases? On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Noah Slater nsla...@tumbolia.org wrote: Hey, Please review the following for IP clearance: http://incubator.staging.apache.org/ip-clearance/couchdb-docs.html

[IP CLEARANCE] CouchDB Docs

2012-09-12 Thread Noah Slater
Hey, Please review the following for IP clearance: http://incubator.staging.apache.org/ip-clearance/couchdb-docs.html Thanks, -- NS

Re: Third-party dependencies in CouchDB

2009-08-09 Thread Noah Slater
, personal hosting scratch-pads like this are becoming more and more common. It would be nice to have an official ASF position on it. Thanks, -- Noah Slater, http://tumbolia.org/nslater - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr

Re: Does an incubation proposal require a codebase?

2009-08-07 Thread Noah Slater
(without code nor community) Not possible, because some of our contributers are not ASF committers. There's a third way: Go to a project which might like your idea and request a sandbox (no code but community). There would be no sensible place to do this. Thanks, -- Noah Slater, http

Re: Does an incubation proposal require a codebase?

2009-08-07 Thread Noah Slater
time within the Incubator? That said, I think there were a couple of projects that came to the incubator without code, IIRC Photark is one of them. Hmm, interesting. So there's no hard and fast rule then? Thanks, -- Noah Slater, http://tumbolia.org/nslater

Re: Does an incubation proposal require a codebase?

2009-08-07 Thread Noah Slater
similarly involved in open source projects. I haven't looked up our docs about this, just trying to apply common sense. Sure. Thanks, -- Noah Slater, http://tumbolia.org/nslater - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr

Re: Does an incubation proposal require a codebase?

2009-08-07 Thread Noah Slater
. Thanks for all the feedback guys. I'll work on getting a proposal together and send another message to the list. Best, -- Noah Slater, http://tumbolia.org/nslater - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org

Does an incubation proposal require a codebase?

2009-08-06 Thread Noah Slater
that we could start from scratch as a podling, and grow the code along with the community. Is this going to be possible? Thanks, -- Noah Slater, http://tumbolia.org/nslater - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr

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