Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Graduate Derby as sub-project of Apache DB

2005-08-01 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
All done. It was actually pretty easy but messy. In the process I did
clean up the sorting of the projects (they are sorted now) and the
duplications of the committers on the whoweare.xml page. Jelly is
weird stuff... :-)

Regards
Henning



On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 19:00 -0400, Brian McCallister wrote:
 I created jira issues for the infra folks to please move the repo and  
 add the Derby committers to the DB group.
 
 Once that goes through someone (from Derby =) can set up the site  
 under /www/db.apache.org/derby/ and we can fight with maven until it  
 links the Derby stuff from the top level (is a reactor build deeper  
 than my understanding of maven).
 
 -Brian
 
 On Jul 29, 2005, at 6:47 PM, Jean T. Anderson wrote:
 
  Daniel John Debrunner wrote:
 
  Jeremy Boynes wrote:
 
  Jean T. Anderson wrote:
 
 
 
  I'm happy to take care of web site updates on Jeremy's list below.
 
  Brian, can we move forward with graduation-related work, such as
  requesting that infrastructure move derby's svn repo and committer
  karmas from infrastructure to db? Or are we waiting for some other
  loop to close first?
 
 
  I believe we are waiting for the conclusion of the vote by the DB  
  PMC.
 
   I think we can move forward, as I understand the DB-PMC is voting on
  adding Derby-PPMC members to itself. That should not hold up any  
  move of
  svn or karma.
 
 
  According to http://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html , it's still  
  the DB PMC that needs to put the request into infra for the move  
  (The request to the infrastructure@ list or the apmail@ alias  
  needs to come from your Project Management Committee.).
 
   -jean
 
 
  According to the status file DB-PMC has voted to accept Derby,  
  that was
  my understanding as well after talking to Brian last week.
  Dan.
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RE: [RESULT] [VOTE] Graduate Derby as sub-project of Apache DB

2005-07-31 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Brian McCallister wrote:

 I created jira issues for the infra folks to please move the repo and  
 add the Derby committers to the DB group.

 Once that goes through [...]

All done.

--- Noel


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Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Graduate Derby as sub-project of Apache DB

2005-07-31 Thread Jean T. Anderson

Brian McCallister wrote:
I created jira issues for the infra folks to please move the repo and  
add the Derby committers to the DB group.


Once that goes through someone (from Derby =) can set up the site  under 
/www/db.apache.org/derby/ and we can fight with maven until it  links 
the Derby stuff from the top level (is a reactor build deeper  than my 
understanding of maven).



thanks, Brian!

I'll set up the site under /www/db.apache.org/derby/.

 -jean


-Brian

On Jul 29, 2005, at 6:47 PM, Jean T. Anderson wrote:


Daniel John Debrunner wrote:


Jeremy Boynes wrote:


Jean T. Anderson wrote:





I'm happy to take care of web site updates on Jeremy's list below.

Brian, can we move forward with graduation-related work, such as
requesting that infrastructure move derby's svn repo and committer
karmas from infrastructure to db? Or are we waiting for some other
loop to close first?



I believe we are waiting for the conclusion of the vote by the DB  PMC.


 I think we can move forward, as I understand the DB-PMC is voting on
adding Derby-PPMC members to itself. That should not hold up any  
move of

svn or karma.



According to http://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html , it's still  
the DB PMC that needs to put the request into infra for the move  
(The request to the infrastructure@ list or the apmail@ alias  needs 
to come from your Project Management Committee.).


 -jean



According to the status file DB-PMC has voted to accept Derby,  that was
my understanding as well after talking to Brian last week.
Dan.
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Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Graduate Derby as sub-project of Apache DB

2005-07-29 Thread Jean T. Anderson

Brian McCallister wrote:


On Jul 26, 2005, at 11:21 AM, Jeremy Boynes wrote:


So what happens now? :-)

Logistical details that come to mind are:
* adding Derby committers to the DB PMC - I assume a vote on who to  add
  takes place on the DB PMC list, is this in progess?



yes.

Cannot comment on the rest =)


I'm happy to take care of web site updates on Jeremy's list below.

Brian, can we move forward with graduation-related work, such as 
requesting that infrastructure move derby's svn repo and committer 
karmas from infrastructure to db? Or are we waiting for some other loop 
to close first?


thanks,

 -jean


* moving the SVN root under the DB project and granting Derby  committers
  karma to the appropriate trees there
* updating the project pages in Incubator to reflect graduation
* updating the project web site to reflect the move under DB
* updating the DB website to reflect the new subproject
* change the JIRA category from Incubator to DB
* no change to the mailing lists as they already point to  db.apache.org

I'm sure I've missed some stuff - anyone else?
Volunteers?

--
Jeremy

Daniel John Debrunner wrote:


Daniel John Debrunner wrote:


So please vote on graduating Derby to a sub-project of Apache DB.


Passed with eleven (11) +1 votes (including one ++1 vote :-)
Three (3) members of the Incubator PMC voted +1 (Noel, Geir, Roy)
Three (3) members of the DB-PMC voted +1 (Brian, Geir, Henning).
Thanks,
Dan.



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Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Graduate Derby as sub-project of Apache DB

2005-07-29 Thread Jeremy Boynes

Jean T. Anderson wrote:

Brian McCallister wrote:



On Jul 26, 2005, at 11:21 AM, Jeremy Boynes wrote:


So what happens now? :-)

Logistical details that come to mind are:
* adding Derby committers to the DB PMC - I assume a vote on who to  add
  takes place on the DB PMC list, is this in progess?




yes.

Cannot comment on the rest =)



I'm happy to take care of web site updates on Jeremy's list below.

Brian, can we move forward with graduation-related work, such as 
requesting that infrastructure move derby's svn repo and committer 
karmas from infrastructure to db? Or are we waiting for some other loop 
to close first?




I believe we are waiting for the conclusion of the vote by the DB PMC.

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Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Graduate Derby as sub-project of Apache DB

2005-07-29 Thread Jean T. Anderson

Daniel John Debrunner wrote:

Jeremy Boynes wrote:


Jean T. Anderson wrote:
 

I'm happy to take care of web site updates on Jeremy's list below.

Brian, can we move forward with graduation-related work, such as
requesting that infrastructure move derby's svn repo and committer
karmas from infrastructure to db? Or are we waiting for some other
loop to close first?


I believe we are waiting for the conclusion of the vote by the DB PMC.
 
I think we can move forward, as I understand the DB-PMC is voting on

adding Derby-PPMC members to itself. That should not hold up any move of
svn or karma.


According to http://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html , it's still the 
DB PMC that needs to put the request into infra for the move (The 
request to the infrastructure@ list or the apmail@ alias needs to come 
from your Project Management Committee.).


 -jean



According to the status file DB-PMC has voted to accept Derby, that was
my understanding as well after talking to Brian last week.

Dan.


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Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Graduate Derby as sub-project of Apache DB

2005-07-26 Thread Brian McCallister


On Jul 26, 2005, at 11:21 AM, Jeremy Boynes wrote:


So what happens now? :-)

Logistical details that come to mind are:
* adding Derby committers to the DB PMC - I assume a vote on who to  
add

  takes place on the DB PMC list, is this in progess?


yes.

Cannot comment on the rest =)

* moving the SVN root under the DB project and granting Derby  
committers

  karma to the appropriate trees there
* updating the project pages in Incubator to reflect graduation
* updating the project web site to reflect the move under DB
* updating the DB website to reflect the new subproject
* change the JIRA category from Incubator to DB
* no change to the mailing lists as they already point to  
db.apache.org


I'm sure I've missed some stuff - anyone else?
Volunteers?

--
Jeremy

Daniel John Debrunner wrote:


Daniel John Debrunner wrote:


So please vote on graduating Derby to a sub-project of Apache DB.


Passed with eleven (11) +1 votes (including one ++1 vote :-)
Three (3) members of the Incubator PMC voted +1 (Noel, Geir, Roy)
Three (3) members of the DB-PMC voted +1 (Brian, Geir, Henning).
Thanks,
Dan.



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UPDATED [RESULT] [VOTE] Graduate Derby as sub-project of Apache DB

2005-07-26 Thread Daniel John Debrunner
Daniel John Debrunner wrote:

 Daniel John Debrunner wrote:
 
 
So please vote on graduating Derby to a sub-project of Apache DB.
 
 
 Passed with eleven (11) +1 votes (including one ++1 vote :-)
 
 Three (3) members of the Incubator PMC voted +1 (Noel, Geir, Roy)
 
 Three (3) members of the DB-PMC voted +1 (Brian, Geir, Henning).

Ken Coar pointed me to the official list of PMC members which is up to
date compared to the Incubator PMC web-site, so I apologise for missing
some folks, the correct summary would be (including Cliff's late vote).

Passed with twelve (12) +1 votes (including one ++1 vote)

Seven (7) members of the Incubator PMC voted +1 (Craig, Noel, Geir, Roy,
Alex, William, Cliff)

Three (3) members of the DB-PMC voted +1 (Brian, Geir, Henning)

Dan.
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[RESULT] [VOTE] Graduate Derby as sub-project of Apache DB

2005-07-25 Thread Daniel John Debrunner
Daniel John Debrunner wrote:

 So please vote on graduating Derby to a sub-project of Apache DB.

Passed with eleven (11) +1 votes (including one ++1 vote :-)

Three (3) members of the Incubator PMC voted +1 (Noel, Geir, Roy)

Three (3) members of the DB-PMC voted +1 (Brian, Geir, Henning).

Thanks,
Dan.



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RE: [VOTE] Graduate Derby as sub-project of Apache DB

2005-07-21 Thread Noel J. Bergman
 Noel said that rather than hassling the Incubator PMC members for
 release approval, we should just graduate!

LOL  I don't believe (in fact, I am sure) that I phrased it this way at all.

 So please vote on graduating Derby to a sub-project of Apache DB.

Normally, I don't vote early on Incubator matters, but considering that this
has already been exposed as as my recommendation: +1

--- Noel


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Re: [VOTE] Graduate Derby as sub-project of Apache DB

2005-07-21 Thread Brian McCallister

+1 (derby ppmc and db pmc hats on)

-Brian

On Jul 20, 2005, at 8:40 PM, Daniel John Debrunner wrote:


Noel said that rather than hassling the Incubator PMC members for
release approval, we should just graduate!

So please vote on graduating Derby to a sub-project of Apache DB.

The developer community continues get the Apache Way and its diversity
has increased since the last graduation vote (where it got good  
reports).


We've added five new committers during incubation based upon their
contributions, which gives us committers from three independent  
entities.


We've performed two releases (though the latest is waiting approval  
from

the incubator PMC :-)

DB-PMC has discussed the inclusion of a sub-set of Derby PPMC members.

DB-PMC has voted to accept the project (see status file)
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/derby.html

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My vote +1.

Thanks!
Dan.


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Re: [VOTE] Graduate Derby as sub-project of Apache DB

2005-07-21 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.

+1 - no question :)

On Jul 20, 2005, at 2:40 PM, Daniel John Debrunner wrote:


Noel said that rather than hassling the Incubator PMC members for
release approval, we should just graduate!

So please vote on graduating Derby to a sub-project of Apache DB.

The developer community continues get the Apache Way and its diversity
has increased since the last graduation vote (where it got good  
reports).


We've added five new committers during incubation based upon their
contributions, which gives us committers from three independent  
entities.


We've performed two releases (though the latest is waiting approval  
from

the incubator PMC :-)

DB-PMC has discussed the inclusion of a sub-set of Derby PPMC members.

DB-PMC has voted to accept the project (see status file)
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/derby.html

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My vote +1.

Thanks!
Dan.


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Re: [VOTE] Graduate Derby as sub-project of Apache DB

2005-07-21 Thread Roy T. Fielding

+1

Roy


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Re: [VOTE] Graduate Derby as sub-project of Apache DB

2005-07-21 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
Definitely +1. Go, folks!

Regards
Henning (DB PMC hat on)


On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 11:40 -0700, Daniel John Debrunner wrote:
 Noel said that rather than hassling the Incubator PMC members for
 release approval, we should just graduate!
 
 So please vote on graduating Derby to a sub-project of Apache DB.
 
 The developer community continues get the Apache Way and its diversity
 has increased since the last graduation vote (where it got good reports).
 
 We've added five new committers during incubation based upon their
 contributions, which gives us committers from three independent entities.
 
 We've performed two releases (though the latest is waiting approval from
 the incubator PMC :-)
 
 DB-PMC has discussed the inclusion of a sub-set of Derby PPMC members.
 
 DB-PMC has voted to accept the project (see status file)
 http://incubator.apache.org/projects/derby.html
 
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 My vote +1.
 
 Thanks!
 Dan.
 
 
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Re: [VOTE] Graduate Derby as sub-project of Apache DB

2005-07-21 Thread Alex Karasulu

+1 yep no question about it.

Alex

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Re: [VOTE] Graduate Derby as sub-project of Apache DB

2005-07-21 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 01:40 PM 7/20/2005, Daniel John Debrunner wrote:

So please vote on graduating Derby to a sub-project of Apache DB.

The developer community continues get the Apache Way and its diversity
has increased since the last graduation vote (where it got good reports).

We've added five new committers during incubation based upon their
contributions, which gives us committers from three independent entities.

This was my only concern - and glad to see this community has
broadened from it's inception!  ++1!

Bill  


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[VOTE] Graduate Derby as sub-project of Apache DB

2005-07-20 Thread Daniel John Debrunner
Noel said that rather than hassling the Incubator PMC members for
release approval, we should just graduate!

So please vote on graduating Derby to a sub-project of Apache DB.

The developer community continues get the Apache Way and its diversity
has increased since the last graduation vote (where it got good reports).

We've added five new committers during incubation based upon their
contributions, which gives us committers from three independent entities.

We've performed two releases (though the latest is waiting approval from
the incubator PMC :-)

DB-PMC has discussed the inclusion of a sub-set of Derby PPMC members.

DB-PMC has voted to accept the project (see status file)
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/derby.html

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My vote +1.

Thanks!
Dan.


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Re: [VOTE] Graduate Derby as sub-project of Apache DB

2005-07-20 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Thursday 21 July 2005 02:40, Daniel John Debrunner wrote:

 DB-PMC has discussed the inclusion of a sub-set of Derby PPMC members.

Has the Derby project engaged suitable DB PMC members as committers and PPMC 
members, to enhance oversight and increase cross-pollination ??  (Sorry if 
this has been mentioned before, but I have not followed the details of 
Derby.)


Cheers
Niclas

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Re: [VOTE] Graduate Derby as sub-project of Apache DB

2005-07-20 Thread Jeremy Boynes

Niclas Hedhman wrote:


Has the Derby project engaged suitable DB PMC members as committers and PPMC 
members, to enhance oversight and increase cross-pollination ??  (Sorry if 
this has been mentioned before, but I have not followed the details of 
Derby.)




DB PMC members have been with Derby from the start and have actively 
been involved in its incubation. Derby has cross pollinated with other 
Apache projects such as Geronimo and JDO (also under incubation by the 
DB PMC).


THe last time the issue of graduation was raised the primary concern was 
that the project lacked a diversity of committers having added only one 
from outside IBM. Since then we have added one independent, three from 
Sun and continue see a diversity on the dev and user lists that should 
lead to even more committers in the near future.


I believe Derby has demonstrated Apache's community values and is ready 
to graduate.


+1

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Jeremy

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Re: [VOTE] Graduate Derby as sub-project of Apache DB

2005-07-20 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Thursday 21 July 2005 12:42, Jeremy Boynes wrote:
 DB PMC members have been with Derby from the start and have actively
 been involved in its incubation. Derby has cross pollinated with other
 Apache projects such as Geronimo and JDO (also under incubation by the
 DB PMC).

Great.  +1 (non-binding) for graduation from me.

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Re: [VOTE] Graduate Derby as sub-project of Apache DB

2005-07-20 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 7/20/05, Jeremy Boynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I believe Derby has demonstrated Apache's community values and is ready
 to graduate.
 
 +1
 

+1 as well.  I've been lurking on the various Derby lists, and am
satisfied that the community gets it what it means to be an Apache
project.

Craig

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