On Feb 3, 2012, at 11:40 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
Hi Jim,
On Feb 3, 2012, at 5:55 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
[...snip...]
So that's 7 of 9 board members that are on the Incubator PMC, and
a good chance they are here now, and reading this.
What do Board members think? IPMC
Jim, I think you have expressed my concerns perfectly.
Mentors care for the podlings. Someone has to care for the mentors.
Not all mentors need help, not all podlings need help. We should provide
*support* all the way down for when it is needed. We should not confuse
interference with support.
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 00:58, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote:
...
And to be honest, even if you (Bill) or the board folks think
that there should be an Incubation VP, are you willing to at least
try it my way, and then if all hell breaks loose, simply add the role
It seems to me that the proposed new scheme will take quite a bit of
setting up. There is some writing to do. More to the point, if I were
the board, I would want to pilot the new scheme for some time before
tearing down the existing incubator. All of this looks to me like more
than 2 months.
A
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 4:44 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 00:58, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote:
...
And to be honest, even if you (Bill) or the board folks think
that there should be an Incubation VP, are you willing to at least
On Feb 3, 2012, at 12:58 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#incubator-pmc
Shane [check]
Doug [check]
Roy [no]
Jim [check]
Brett [check]
Larry [no]
Sam [check]
Greg [check]
So that's 7 of 9 board members that are on the Incubator
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 7:34 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
It seems to me that the proposed new scheme will take quite a bit of
setting up. There is some writing to do. More to the point, if I were
the board, I would want to pilot the new scheme for some time before
tearing
Hi Daniel,
On Feb 3, 2012, at 1:29 AM, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote on Thu, Feb 02, 2012 at 20:20:26 -0800:
Thanks Christian.
I'll accept, thanks for your kind words, and for those of Marvin and
Joe, and the comments from Benson and others.
I will note that
Hi Greg,
On Feb 3, 2012, at 1:44 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 00:58, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote:
...
And to be honest, even if you (Bill) or the board folks think
that there should be an Incubation VP, are you willing to at least
try it my
Hi Benson,
On Feb 3, 2012, at 4:34 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:
It seems to me that the proposed new scheme will take quite a bit of
setting up. There is some writing to do. More to the point, if I were
the board, I would want to pilot the new scheme for some time before
tearing down the
Hi Sam,
On Feb 3, 2012, at 5:50 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 4:44 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 00:58, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote:
...
And to be honest, even if you (Bill) or the board folks think
that there
Hi Jim,
On Feb 3, 2012, at 5:55 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
[...snip...]
So that's 7 of 9 board members that are on the Incubator PMC, and
a good chance they are here now, and reading this.
What do Board members think? IPMC hats on? Great. Board
hats on? Great too. Would be great to get
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote:
On Feb 3, 2012, at 5:50 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:
What I care most about is
addressed by this proposal: that there be an identified person to
which feedback can be directed for each report.
Sure, I get
Hey Sam,
On Feb 3, 2012, at 9:05 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote:
On Feb 3, 2012, at 5:50 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:
What I care most about is
addressed by this proposal: that there be an identified person to
On 2/3/2012 8:07 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 7:34 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com
wrote:
It seems to me that the proposed new scheme will take quite a bit of
setting up. There is some writing to do. More to the point, if I were
the board, I would want to pilot the
On Feb 3, 2012, at 10:24 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:
On 2/3/2012 8:07 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:
[...snippage...]
I just don't think it is realistic to imagine that in 60 days from
some near-term board meeting, we can set up this new plan, debug it,
and transition the existing clutch. While
On 02/02/2012 09:58 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
What do Board members think? IPMC hats on? Great. Board
hats on? Great too. Would be great to get opinions now
rather than have to wait.
I like the simplicity of erasing the layer of management that is the
Incubator.
The board is a
Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity.
On Feb 3, 2012 4:27 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote:
Hi Greg,
On Feb 3, 2012, at 1:44 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 00:58, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov
Hi Ross,
On Feb 3, 2012, at 4:41 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:
Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity.
On Feb 3, 2012 4:27 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote:
Hi Greg,
On Feb 3, 2012, at 1:44 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at
On 4 February 2012 01:47, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote:
On Feb 3, 2012, at 4:41 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:
On Feb 3, 2012 4:27 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote:
...
if you'll recall Jim's message
to the members in the past 2
On 2/3/2012 8:41 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:
Lets not forget that the model referred to *included* the IPMC. The
IPMC once had a useful function, it was a safety net for fledgling
communities.
The IPMC never served that purpose. Projects were scuttled even in
its first year.
The IPMC served to
Thanks Christian.
I'll accept, thanks for your kind words, and for those of Marvin and
Joe, and the comments from Benson and others.
I will note that should I be elected into this role, I will state that
I don't intend to be in it very long as I don't intend for it to exist
much longer. Should
Chris,
I will note that should I be elected into this role, I will state that
I don't intend to be in it very long as I don't intend for it to exist
much longer.
I spoke with Bill this evening, and have indicated to him that I'd like for
you and he to already start working on the re-org
On 2/2/2012 10:20 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
Thanks Christian.
I'll accept, thanks for your kind words, and for those of Marvin and
Joe, and the comments from Benson and others.
I will note that should I be elected into this role, I will state that
I don't intend to be in it
Hi Noel,
On Feb 2, 2012, at 9:22 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Chris,
I will note that should I be elected into this role, I will state that
I don't intend to be in it very long as I don't intend for it to exist
much longer.
I spoke with Bill this evening, and have indicated to him that
On 2/2/2012 11:38 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
However, please note that the re-org still has a position that is at least
analogous. You would not be getting off so easily. ;-)
:) Nope, it doesn't actually. Please read the thread carefully. That is
what is being suggested by Bill
Hey Bill,
On Feb 2, 2012, at 9:37 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:
On 2/2/2012 11:38 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
However, please note that the re-org still has a position that is at least
analogous. You would not be getting off so easily. ;-)
:) Nope, it doesn't actually. Please
Hi Bill,
On Feb 2, 2012, at 9:32 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:
On 2/2/2012 10:20 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
Thanks Christian.
I'll accept, thanks for your kind words, and for those of Marvin and
Joe, and the comments from Benson and others.
I will note that should I be
We have already 2 good nominations for the IPMC chair role, Noel and Benson.
I would like add a new name and nominate Chris Mattman as the IPMC
chair. He does care deeply on the incubator and expresses my feelings
in many ways. In addition he is a damn nice guy with many ideas.
Cheers
Christian
On Thu, Feb 02, 2012 at 12:16:22AM +0100, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
I would like add a new name and nominate Chris Mattman as the IPMC
chair. He does care deeply on the incubator and expresses my feelings
in many ways. In addition he is a damn nice guy with many ideas.
Mattmann has been a
+1!
From: Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: Nomination of Chris Mattman for the IPMC Chair (was: Re:
NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)
On Thu, Feb 02, 2012 at
don't we also have jukka?
On Feb 1, 2012, at 6:17 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
We have already 2 good nominations for the IPMC chair role, Noel and Benson.
I would like add a new name and nominate Chris Mattman as the IPMC
chair. He does care deeply on the incubator and
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 1:46 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
don't we also have jukka?
Jukka expressed (to be found somewhere in the archives) he does not
need additonal workload at the moment. In addition he is already
JackRabbit Chair, not sure, but I think 2 chair roles are
On 2/1/2012 6:52 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 1:46 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com
wrote:
don't we also have jukka?
Jukka expressed (to be found somewhere in the archives) he does not
need additonal workload at the moment. In addition he is already
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