Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-09 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:57 AM, Martin Hollmichel martin.hollmic...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, time to introduce myself, I'm Martin Hollmichel, contributor to StarOffice/OpenOffice.org since 1994, member of the OpenOffice.org Community Council (CC) until 2010 and also Chair of Team

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-09 Thread André Schnabel
Hi Simon, Am 09.06.2011 00:14, schrieb Simon Phipps: Presumably it would also be possible to have a group outside ASF called eg Friends of Open Office ( FOO) that raised money and put it to code development or marketing or whatever. Not saying that is the best way just its a possibility.

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-09 Thread Danese Cooper
Hi Martin...welcome. Nice to see you post here. Danese On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Martin Hollmichel martin.hollmic...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, time to introduce myself, I'm Martin Hollmichel, contributor to StarOffice/OpenOffice.org since 1994, member of the OpenOffice.org

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-09 Thread Martin Hollmichel
On 06/09/2011 08:06 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:57 AM, Martin Hollmichel martin.hollmic...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, time to introduce myself, I'm Martin Hollmichel, contributor to StarOffice/OpenOffice.org since 1994, member of the OpenOffice.org Community

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-09 Thread Volker Merschmann
Good morning, as most of the discussion happened when I slept, I will give a summarizinig answer from the top. (With unusally top-posting against the netiquette) There are two associations (german: eingetragener Verein abbrev. e.V.) - Team OpenOffice.org e.V., based in Hamburg. The members are

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-09 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Andy Brown wrote on 2011-06-09 01.42: It would be interesting to find out if all funds received for OOo were accounted for since the fork. The e.V changed names and collects donations for LibreOffice, http://www.documentfoundation.org/contribution/ . as a German approved,

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-09 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello everyone, 2011/6/9 Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Hi, Andy Brown wrote on 2011-06-09 01.42: It would be interesting to find out if all funds received for OOo were accounted for since the fork. The e.V changed names and collects donations for LibreOffice,

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-09 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2011-06-09 10.28: - TeamOOo e.V: Association of the Hamburg engineers (primarily) --- OOo - FroDe.V, formerly OOoDe.V: users/community association in Germany channelling funds under two separate accounts for LibreOffice and OpenOffice, and also acting as the

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-09 Thread Martin Hollmichel
Hi, On 06/09/2011 10:32 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: [...] Maybe two things to add (and Martin, feel free to correct me): TeamOOo: donations are not tax-deductible, as not approved as not-for-profit, but thus more flexible in handling money spending outside of Germany. FrODeV: donations

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-09 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, Martin Hollmichel wrote on 2011-06-09 11.20: Team OOo donation are not tax-deductible, as not want have all spendings as especially meritorious. Of course Team OOo is a non-profit organization and more flexible in spendings. My understanding is that the especially meritorious term also

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-09 Thread robert_weir
Volker Merschmann merschm...@gmail.com wrote on 06/09/2011 02:33:09 AM: as most of the discussion happened when I slept, I will give a summarizinig answer from the top. (With unusally top-posting against the netiquette) There are two associations (german: eingetragener Verein abbrev.

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-09 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote on 2011-06-09 15.21: together. The only influence Apache has is indirect, via its eventual control of the OOo trademark, logo and website. Since fundraising is a just a quick note to that - it doesn't affect the German association very much, but: Once

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-09 Thread Simon Phipps
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:21 PM, robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote: This is great information. But can I make a suggestion? I don't think this is a discussion that we can really make any progress with now, in reviewing an incubation proposal. I'm not even sure this is something that will be

OOo community organzations (was: OOo Monetary Donations)

2011-06-09 Thread Shane Curcuru
Does someone have a high-level org chart - so to speak - of the OpenOffice.org community? To be more specific, a chart or description of all the recognizable groups (associations, corporations, memberships, etc.) that are either directly in charge of some part of the OOo project as a whole,

OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread Dave Fisher
I started looking around at the OOo website. I'm not sure if now is the time to bring this up, but at http://contributing.openoffice.org/donate.html there is a solicitation for funds via three processes. Here's what the page says: Your donation will go directly towards helping this project.

RE: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Dave Fisher wrote: Your donation will go directly towards helping this project. Some of the ways in which your funds might be used include: • Hiring independent developers to work with OpenOffice.org. • Paying for participation at trade shows and conferences. • Paying for

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread Ian Lynch
On 8 June 2011 22:50, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com wrote: Dave Fisher wrote: Your donation will go directly towards helping this project. Some of the ways in which your funds might be used include: • Hiring independent developers to work with OpenOffice.org. • Paying

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread Simon Phipps
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:08 PM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: On 8 June 2011 22:50, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com wrote: Dave Fisher wrote: Your donation will go directly towards helping this project. Some of the ways in which your funds might be used include: •

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread Andy Brown
Simon Phipps wrote: On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:08 PM, Ian Lynchianrly...@gmail.com wrote: On 8 June 2011 22:50, Noel J. Bergmann...@devtech.com wrote: Dave Fisher wrote: Your donation will go directly towards helping this project. Some of the ways in which your funds might be used

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread Shane Curcuru
Indeed, the ASF has been consistent that monetary donations be made to the ASF as a whole, and we have not accepted targeted cash donations for specific projects in the past. And as a Foundation, we have not paid directly for development on our projects (although obviously we have a paid

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Jun 8, 2011, at 4:31 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: I started looking around at the OOo website. I'm not sure if now is the time to bring this up, but at http://contributing.openoffice.org/donate.html there is a solicitation for funds via three processes. Here's what the page says: Your

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread Andrew Rist
to a foundation independent of Oracle: Team OpenOffice.org e.V. searching for a more complete answer Oracle Email Signature Logo Andrew Rist | Interoperability Architect Oracle Corporate Architecture Group Redwood Shores, CA | 650.506.9847 On 6/8/2011 4:19 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Jun 8,

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread Simon Phipps
http://www.teamopenoffice.de/ I believe it is at the disposal of the Community Council, so probably Louis could give a more complete answer. S. On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Andrew Rist andrew.r...@oracle.com wrote: to a foundation independent of Oracle: Team OpenOffice.org e.V.

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread Andy Brown
Andrew Rist wrote: to a foundation independent of Oracle: Team OpenOffice.org e.V. searching for a more complete answer It would be interesting to find out if all funds received for OOo were accounted for since the fork. The e.V changed names and collects donations for LibreOffice,

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread robert_weir
Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote on 06/08/2011 06:44:35 PM: I was actually thinking of Freies Office Deutschland e.V. primarily, http://www.frodev.org/ Interesting. That happens to also be where TDF donations go: http://www.documentfoundation.org/contribution/ -Rob

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread Simon Phipps
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:42 AM, Andy Brown a...@the-martin-byrd.netwrote: Andrew Rist wrote: to a foundation independent of Oracle: Team OpenOffice.org e.V. searching for a more complete answer It would be interesting to find out if all funds received for OOo were accounted for since

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread Simon Phipps
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:48 AM, robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote: Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote on 06/08/2011 06:44:35 PM: I was actually thinking of Freies Office Deutschland e.V. primarily, http://www.frodev.org/ Interesting. That happens to also be where TDF donations go:

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread Simon Phipps
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:42 AM, Andy Brown a...@the-martin-byrd.netwrote: Andrew Rist wrote: to a foundation independent of Oracle: Team OpenOffice.org e.V. searching for a more complete answer It would be interesting to find out if all funds received for OOo were accounted for since

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread donald_harbison
Subject: Re: OOo Monetary Donations On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:40 PM, Andy Brown a...@the-martin-byrd.netwrote: Simon Phipps wrote: On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:08 PM, Ian Lynchianrly...@gmail.com wrote: On 8 June 2011 22:50, Noel J. Bergmann...@devtech.com wrote: Dave Fisher wrote

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread donald_harbison
Subject: Re: OOo Monetary Donations On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:48 AM, robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote: Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote on 06/08/2011 06:44:35 PM: I was actually thinking of Freies Office Deutschland e.V. primarily, http://www.frodev.org/ Interesting

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Jun 8, 2011, at 6:42 PM, Andy Brown wrote: Andrew Rist wrote: to a foundation independent of Oracle: Team OpenOffice.org e.V. searching for a more complete answer It would be interesting to find out if all funds received for OOo were accounted for since the fork. The e.V changed

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread Simon Phipps
...@webmink.com To: general@incubator.apache.org Date: 06/08/2011 07:52 PM Subject: Re: OOo Monetary Donations On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:48 AM, robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote: Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote on 06/08/2011 06:44:35 PM: I was actually thinking of Freies

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread Simon Phipps
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 1:48 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: On Jun 8, 2011, at 6:42 PM, Andy Brown wrote: Andrew Rist wrote: to a foundation independent of Oracle: Team OpenOffice.org e.V. searching for a more complete answer It would be interesting to find out if all

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Jun 8, 2011, at 7:51 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 1:48 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: On Jun 8, 2011, at 6:42 PM, Andy Brown wrote: Andrew Rist wrote: to a foundation independent of Oracle: Team OpenOffice.org e.V. searching for a more complete answer

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread donald_harbison
Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote on 06/08/2011 08:51:45 PM: From: Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com To: general@incubator.apache.org Date: 06/08/2011 08:54 PM Subject: Re: OOo Monetary Donations On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 1:48 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: On Jun 8, 2011

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread Simon Phipps
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:07 AM, donald_harbi...@us.ibm.com wrote: In the same regard, the Team OpenOffice.org e.V. to which IBM and other corporate sponsors provided annual financial support may now wish to consider consolidation with http://www.frodev.org/. If that seems inappropriate,

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jun 8, 2011, at 5:51 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 1:48 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: On Jun 8, 2011, at 6:42 PM, Andy Brown wrote: Andrew Rist wrote: to a foundation independent of Oracle: Team OpenOffice.org e.V. searching for a more complete answer

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread Andy Brown
Simon Phipps wrote: On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:42 AM, Andy Browna...@the-martin-byrd.netwrote: Andrew Rist wrote: to a foundation independent of Oracle: Team OpenOffice.org e.V. searching for a more complete answer It would be interesting to find out if all funds received for OOo were

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread Martin Hollmichel
Hi, time to introduce myself, I'm Martin Hollmichel, contributor to StarOffice/OpenOffice.org since 1994, member of the OpenOffice.org Community Council (CC) until 2010 and also Chair of Team OpenOffice.org e.V. We founded Team OpenOffice.org e.V. in 2003 to serve for the items described for the