Re: The Complete Server Platform?

On 21 Mar 2002, Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I assume that ant is not made to take advantage of a multi-processor > box, Ant isn't doing too many things that could take advantage of multiple processors - it doesn't compile itself but uses your JDK's javac (you know that 8-) which w

Re: Printable pages

on 3/21/02 11:50 PM, "Stefan Bodewig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > True, but not everybody is allowed to upgrade. Quite a few of our > (Jakarta's) users sit behind corporate firewalls at machines they > don't have administrative access to and are not allowed to install > additional software. >

Re: Printable pages

On 21 Mar 2002, Andrew C. Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2002-03-21 at 16:53, Ted Husted wrote: >> I would be -1 on a product change that made the main Jakarta web >> site inaccessible with Netscape 4.x. > > Why...how long has Netscape 6 been out > 1yr. True, but not everybody is a

Re: [site] proposed changes to site.vsl template

+1 I think the scarab UI is very nice! In fact, I'd like to use this as the default for Maven-generated sites. On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 02:55:47PM -0800, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > Scarab.whichever.com has the UI I'm proposing that we change to. -- Peter Kazmier

JakartaOne: The Gathering

Where are we on this? It would be so sad to have so many of us attending JavaOne in the same place, but without the opportunity to get together as "Jakarta people". Jon is right - there are a bazillion places we could meet, and a bazillion places we could eat. Sorry, the container is ready. [EMA

Re: [OT] JCP rant

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Peter Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 06:47, Ceki Gülcü wrote: > > All very good points. The question on my mind is whether these > > problems can be corrected in the future by opening up the (JCP) Java > > Community Process

Re: [OT] JCP rant

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 "Daniel F. Savarese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The problem with the JCP is not merely the licensing. It is also the basic > JSR procedures. The objective of a new API is to meet some set of developer > requirements in a particular application

Windows 2K Tomcat service w/ jacorb

Hi, Can anyone tell me how to setup jacorb w/ Tomcat which run as NT Service? I am using Windows 2000, and latest Tomcat 4.0.3 Binary d/l at: http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-tomcat-4.0/release/v4.0.3/bin/jakar ta-tomcat-4.0.3.exe I already study "Working with the Jakarta NT Sevice" by

Re: Krysalis, Centipede, Generating docs with Cocoon?

Answered offlist. In the meanwhile, everyone pay homage to the jakarta-site2 docs: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/jakarta-site2.html and acknowledge that anything less ain't good enough for everyday Jakarta use. The DVSL-based system that Jason van Zyl mentioned sounds best: >> Yup, that's my

Re: Krysalis, Centipede, Generating docs with Cocoon?

"Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 22/03/2002 12:13:01 PM: > On Thu, 2002-03-21 at 20:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I downloaded Krysalis and Centipede, hoping to find some easy way of > > building docs, but I was sorely disappointed. You have to know a ton of > > stuff about

Re: Krysalis, Centipede, Generating docs with Cocoon?

Jeff Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 22/03/2002 12:43:37 PM: > export > CVSROOT=:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/krysalis > cvs login > cvs co krysalis-centipede > cd krysalis-centipede > chmod +x build.sh > ./build.sh docs > > Works fine for me. If you had problems, ask on the krysalis-

Re: Krysalis, Centipede, Generating docs with Cocoon?

My 2 cents on printer friendly pages and documentation I still like the idea of a generated pdf document for the documentation. Avalon already provides a pdf file and I personally find it very useful. if cocoon/krysalis must be used to generate the website and (maybe) the pdf file, I really

Re: Krysalis, Centipede, Generating docs with Cocoon?

On Fri, Mar 22, 2002 at 12:10:13PM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I downloaded Krysalis and Centipede, hoping to find some easy way of > building docs, but I was sorely disappointed. You have to know a ton of > stuff about Cocoon, Cocoon's 'book' format (which isn't DocBook), and the > othe

Re: Krysalis, Centipede, Generating docs with Cocoon?

on 3/21/02 5:10 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At least the process with site.vsl and site.xsl is documented > and easy to set up, and requires no special knowledge, for most commons > projects. Imagine that. -jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: F

Re: Krysalis, Centipede, Generating docs with Cocoon?

On Thu, 2002-03-21 at 20:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I downloaded Krysalis and Centipede, hoping to find some easy way of > building docs, but I was sorely disappointed. You have to know a ton of > stuff about Cocoon, Cocoon's 'book' format (which isn't DocBook), and the > other tools invol

Krysalis, Centipede, Generating docs with Cocoon?

I downloaded Krysalis and Centipede, hoping to find some easy way of building docs, but I was sorely disappointed. You have to know a ton of stuff about Cocoon, Cocoon's 'book' format (which isn't DocBook), and the other tools involved to even get your head around it. If you have to setup and

Re: Printable pages

On Thu, 2002-03-21 at 16:53, Ted Husted wrote: > Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > > I'm ok with that. Netscape 6 and IE 5.5 are released versions of the latest > > technologies. If those new technologies support the features we need, then > > lets require them for those features. It is like the big swit

Re: [site] proposed changes to site.vsl template

On Thu, 2002-03-21 at 17:22, Ted Husted wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Cool, feedback :) Where do u think it needs more whitespace - between > > 'menus' or 'items'? > > Personally, I like putting the sidebar menus on the right, so they are > near the scrollbar. Then if the page is a little

Re: [OT] JCP rant

On Thu, 2002-03-21 at 14:47, Ceki Gülcü wrote: > > All very good points. The question on my mind is whether these > problems can be corrected in the future by opening up the (JCP) Java > Community Process or whether the closed-like-a-clamp is a symptom > of a more serious and profound disease - m

Re: Printable pages

Please tell me you committed them back to site.vsl? -- dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting Work: http://www.multitask.com.au Developers: http://www.multitask.com.au/developers "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 22/03/2002 09:51:46 AM: > On 3/21/02 5:20 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

Re: [site] proposed changes to site.vsl template

Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 22/03/2002 09:22:36 AM: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Cool, feedback :) Where do u think it needs more whitespace - between > > 'menus' or 'items'? > > Personally, I like putting the sidebar menus on the right, so they are > near the scrollbar. Then if th

Re: [site] proposed changes to site.vsl template

Scarab.whichever.com has the UI I'm proposing that we change to. -jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail:

Re: Printable pages

on 3/21/02 2:20 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Being one of the XSLT weenies, could we use the site.xsl as the basis for > site.dvsl? Last I checked, they were in sync. Not that I know squat about > vsl :) I'm talking about re-doing the stylesheets entirely. There is no 'ba

Re: [site] proposed changes to site.vsl template

on 3/21/02 2:12 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cool, feedback :) Where do u think it needs more whitespace - between > 'menus' or 'items'? Both. -jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail:

Re: Printable pages

on 3/21/02 1:53 PM, "Ted Husted" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jon Scott Stevens wrote: >> I'm ok with that. Netscape 6 and IE 5.5 are released versions of the latest >> technologies. If those new technologies support the features we need, then >> lets require them for those features. It is like t

Re: Printable pages

On 3/21/02 5:20 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Berin Loritsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 22/03/2002 08:13:31 AM: > >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 4:07 PM >>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: The Complete Server Platform?

On 21 Mar 2002, Jason van Zyl wrote: > > ( the startup time is just amazing, you'll not realize you > > run 'ant' instead of 'ls' ) > > I assume that ant is not made to take advantage of a multi-processor > box, (I compiled some code on a quad processor machine and ant didn't > really seem to mo

Re: [site] proposed changes to site.vsl template

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Cool, feedback :) Where do u think it needs more whitespace - between > 'menus' or 'items'? Personally, I like putting the sidebar menus on the right, so they are near the scrollbar. Then if the page is a little wide, its the menu that gets pushed off rather than the co

RE: Printable pages

"Berin Loritsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 22/03/2002 08:13:31 AM: > > -Original Message- > > From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 4:07 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Printable pages > > > > > > on 3/21/02 12:57 PM, "Be

Re: [OT] JCP rant

On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 06:47, Ceki Gülcü wrote: > All very good points. The question on my mind is whether these > problems can be corrected in the future by opening up the (JCP) Java > Community Process or whether the closed-like-a-clamp is a symptom > of a more serious and profound disease - my s

Re: [site] proposed changes to site.vsl template

Jon Scott Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 22/03/2002 07:52:22 AM: > on 3/21/02 5:04 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I've made a change to the template I use to generate the Latka docs, as > > I've always been unhappy with the amount of whitespace in the left hand

Re: RE: Printable pages

...grumble..grumble...old browsers...upgrade...grumble...dark ages...internet...grumble...netscape4.7x...sucks..grumble... >On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 15:57:35 -0500 "Berin Loritsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote. >In that case, the entire Jakarta site needs to be redesigned. >It makes use of embedded t

Re: Printable pages

Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > I'm ok with that. Netscape 6 and IE 5.5 are released versions of the latest > technologies. If those new technologies support the features we need, then > lets require them for those features. It is like the big switch from JDK 1.1 > to JDK 1.2. :-) I agree that a more

RE: Printable pages

> on 3/21/02 12:57 PM, "Berin Loritsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > In that case, the entire Jakarta site needs to be redesigned. > > It makes use of embedded tables and elements. It does > > not use CSS at all. > > Correct. I don't know much about anakia, but I know more about xhtml and c

RE: Printable pages

> -Original Message- > From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 4:07 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Printable pages > > > on 3/21/02 12:57 PM, "Berin Loritsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > In that case, the entire Jakarta site n

Re: Printable pages

on 3/21/02 12:57 PM, "Berin Loritsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In that case, the entire Jakarta site needs to be redesigned. > It makes use of embedded tables and elements. It does > not use CSS at all. Correct. My long time goal has been to convert the Jakarta site over to use Scarab's

Re: Re: [OT] JCP rant

>On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 20:47:26 0100 Ceki =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=FClc=FC?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote. >All very good points. The question on my mind is whether these >problems can be corrected in the future by opening up the (JCP) Java >Community Process or whether the closed-like-a-clamp is a symptom >o

RE: Printable pages

In that case, the entire Jakarta site needs to be redesigned. It makes use of embedded tables and elements. It does not use CSS at all. We also have issues with older browsers. Only versions 5.5 and later will support the Print stylesheet. IE 5.5+ Netscape 6 Mozilla Anything before that, and

Re: The Complete Server Platform?

On Thu, 2002-03-21 at 15:48, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > on 3/21/02 8:41 AM, "Jason van Zyl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I assume that ant is not made to take advantage of a multi-processor > > box, (I compiled some code on a quad processor machine and ant didn't > > really seem to move that

Re: [site] proposed changes to site.vsl template

on 3/21/02 5:04 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've made a change to the template I use to generate the Latka docs, as > I've always been unhappy with the amount of whitespace in the left hand > navbar that site.vsl and site.xsl generate. > > To see the 'compact' style, see

Re: Printable pages

What I would like to do regarding this is to not have to generate two sets of pages or have to generate PDF files as well as HTML. I would rather see the Jakarta site/stylesheet to use CSS and take advantage of the tag to have a printable stylesheet... This is what Scarab does... -jon --

Re: The Complete Server Platform?

on 3/21/02 8:41 AM, "Jason van Zyl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I assume that ant is not made to take advantage of a multi-processor > box, (I compiled some code on a quad processor machine and ant didn't > really seem to move that much faster then on my laptop) but if I compile > ant using gjc

Re: [OT] JCP rant

All very good points. The question on my mind is whether these problems can be corrected in the future by opening up the (JCP) Java Community Process or whether the closed-like-a-clamp is a symptom of a more serious and profound disease - my suggested name would be "clampitis." Does anyone has a

Re: Printable pages

On 3/21/02 2:01 PM, "Berin Loritsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My point is that every page should have a link to the printable > format. The normal Jakarta layout is not printer friendly, > and the main site does not have a link to printer friendly docs. That's a *great* idea. > > We shoul

Generator

Hi guys, I am looking for a java server that will properly run macromedia generator objects. I have to admit I don't have jakarta installed yet, but i really wat to use it. Is there anyone with a success report? thanx, -=//-\drian=- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For

[OT] JCP rant

Somebody asked on the axi-user mailing list why they should use Axis instead of JAXM. I offered some comments, but tried not to stray too off topic. In light of a recent JCP-related thread, I thought there might not be any objections on general@jakarta if I vented for a minute. When you use JA

RE: Printable pages

My point is that every page should have a link to the printable format. The normal Jakarta layout is not printer friendly, and the main site does not have a link to printer friendly docs. We should have a standard for Jakarta that will always have printer friendly docs for people to use. Whethe

Re: Printable pages

On 3/21/02 11:17 AM, "Jason van Zyl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2002-03-21 at 08:39, Berin Loritsch wrote: > >> I tried looking at the BCEL manual, and while it looks nice on screen, >> when I >> tried to print it out it cut off almost two inches of text. > > Yup, that's my fault. I w

Re: Printable pages

On Thu, 2002-03-21 at 08:39, Berin Loritsch wrote: > I tried looking at the BCEL manual, and while it looks nice on screen, > when I > tried to print it out it cut off almost two inches of text. Yup, that's my fault. I will remedy the situation with PDFs. A very long time ago before Anakia we

Re: LICENSE in .jar files

acoliver wrote: > I do. I was just curious. > Have you a licence for that? :-) It's a mad world. Conor -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail:

Re: RE: LICENSE in .jar files

I do. I was just curious. >On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 08:26:50 -0500 "Berin Loritsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote. >> From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> >> BTW. Define: "release" ;-) > > >That sounds like former persident Bill Clinton with his >"define sexual relations". Such a que

Re: [site] proposed changes to site.vsl template

From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "Nicola Ken Barozzi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 22/03/2002 12:00:53 > > How about http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ ? > > See also http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/overview.html . > > I like these better. Does it come as a stylesheet to transform 'standard' > site docs, or

Printable pages

Could we have two templates for the jakarta pages? The problem is that the embedded tables inside tables inside tables inside tables ... approach of the default template causes many very useful pages to not print nicely. We need a nice template that produces printable pages. That means that the

RE: LICENSE in .jar files

> From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > BTW. Define: "release" ;-) That sounds like former persident Bill Clinton with his "define sexual relations". Such a question insinuates guilt, and that you are trying to find a letter of the law loop hole to be clever about. Lawers ar

Re: [site] proposed changes to site.vsl template

"Nicola Ken Barozzi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 22/03/2002 12:00:53 AM: > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > I've made a change to the template I use to generate the Latka docs, as > > I've always been unhappy with the amount of whitespace in the left hand > > navbar that site.vsl and site.xsl

RE: LICENSE in .jar files

I guess I'm wondering what the legal definition of "reverse-engineer" means. To me that means disassemble. If I just write something that happens to have the same interface, inputs and outputs, to me that doesn't qualify as "reverse-engineer" but maybe thats just me. When my 5 year old stepson

Re: [site] proposed changes to site.vsl template

From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I've made a change to the template I use to generate the Latka docs, as > I've always been unhappy with the amount of whitespace in the left hand > navbar that site.vsl and site.xsl generate. > > To see the 'compact' style, see: > > http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/~check

[site] proposed changes to site.vsl template

I've made a change to the template I use to generate the Latka docs, as I've always been unhappy with the amount of whitespace in the left hand navbar that site.vsl and site.xsl generate. To see the 'compact' style, see: http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/~checkout~/jakarta-commons/docs/latka/ind