RE: localhost:8080 vs localhost???

2002-07-18 Thread Fernandez Martinez, Alejandro
Hi Andrew, > -Mensaje original- > De: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Enviado el: viernes 19 de julio de 2002 0:10 > Para: Jakarta General List > Asunto: Re: localhost:8080 vs localhost??? > > Live in your happy little world, and if you're happy putting out that > sludge g

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2002-07-18 Thread Alex McLintock
At 12:14 18/07/02, Aaron wrote: >I have a question. It seems that you all kinda know each other. Where is >everyone located? >Aaron Working with Open Source software is a pretty unpopular pastime - if I was a BEA Weblogic expert for instance I would have people beating down my door to get to k

Re: localhost:8080 vs localhost???

2002-07-18 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
> > >>>You mean PHP right? :-) >>> >>> >>> > >ASP.NET.COM.ORG > > > :-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail:

RE: localhost:8080 vs localhost???

2002-07-18 Thread Paulo Gaspar
> yeah. And it's got a template language called Smarty which is *way* > better than velocity!!! >From the problems we are having with Smarty, it does not seem good enough even for a Alpha release. =:oP Have fun, Paulo > -Original Message- > From: Leo Simons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Re: localhost:8080 vs localhost???

2002-07-18 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
> > >You're right... http://www.vnunet.com/ (my employer's). All JSP based, and >it works (it really does, some millions of hit per day), but from that to >say that it is actually "done right", well, there's quite some difference... > > yes. >JSP suck, they (can) work, but at the end of the day

Re: localhost:8080 vs localhost???

2002-07-18 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 7/18/02 6:11 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> It works just fine with Struts - come see what you can do with Velocity and >> Struts. Even if we don't convert you to the One True Way ?®(sm) :) you will >> at least stop comparing apples and oranges. >> >> >> > Yo

Re: localhost:8080 vs localhost???

2002-07-18 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Andrew C. Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > JSP --- IS --- a temendously bad hack. You're right... http://www.vnunet.com/ (my employer's). All JSP based, and it works (it really does, some millions of hit per day), but from that to say that it is actually "done right", well, there's quite some

Re: localhost:8080 vs localhost???

2002-07-18 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
> > >It works just fine with Struts - come see what you can do with Velocity and >Struts. Even if we don't convert you to the One True Way ?®(sm) :) you will >at least stop comparing apples and oranges. > > > You mean PHP right? :-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For

Re: localhost:8080 vs localhost???

2002-07-18 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
James Mitchell wrote: >Ok. Here's my response. > >There's nothing wrong with JSP. Those that bash it are those who clearly >have no understanding of it. >These same people have usually tried to use it at one time, but became >frustrated by their own lack of knowledge in web application developme

Re: localhost:8080 vs localhost???

2002-07-18 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
on 7/18/02 1:44 PM, "James Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There's nothing wrong with JSP. Those that bash it are those who clearly > have no understanding of it. That is the funniest thing I have read in a long time. Here is a great picture of a JSP user: http://whichever.com/hea

Re: localhost:8080 vs localhost???

2002-07-18 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 7/18/02 4:44 PM, "James Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [SNIP] I don't want to get into a flamefest about this, but I can't resist correcting two things : > > > Now hack away at this and try to make an application somehow. JSP was > simply a natural progression from static html. (DUH

Re: localhost:8080 vs localhost???

2002-07-18 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 7/18/02 4:04 PM, "Leo Simons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Is that site generated by maven ? ;)) >>> >>> Mvgr, >>> Martin >> >> Anakia >> >> I hate to admit it here, but the output is .html files which are then >> processed through PHP. I'm going to be moving away from even using Anakia >

RE: localhost:8080 vs localhost???

2002-07-18 Thread James Mitchell
Ok. Here's my response. There's nothing wrong with JSP. Those that bash it are those who clearly have no understanding of it. These same people have usually tried to use it at one time, but became frustrated by their own lack of knowledge in web application development and now think its easier t

Re: localhost:8080 vs localhost???

2002-07-18 Thread John Thorhauer
On Tue, 2002-07-16 at 20:42, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > > http://jakarta.apache.org/site/idiot.html This .wav could perhaps add to the effect that you are trying to get across: http://151.200.3.8/~vze29k6v/idiot.wav John -- ** John Thorhauer ** [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: localhost:8080 vs localhost???

2002-07-18 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
But no one replied to my lovely email when I said that other than POI and HTTPD there was only actually one Apache project, all the others are the same project implemented different ways and that JSP had the structure of a dog turned inside out... I was so proud of that...how mean of you all n

Re: localhost:8080 vs localhost???

2002-07-18 Thread Leo Simons
> > Is that site generated by maven ? ;)) > > > > Mvgr, > > Martin > > Anakia > > I hate to admit it here, but the output is .html files which are then > processed through PHP. I'm going to be moving away from even using Anakia > and just using PHP. > > PHP is terribly fugly and encourages the

RE: localhost:8080 vs localhost???

2002-07-18 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Teteringen, The Netherlands (ask the Turbine list how it is there ;) Mvgr, Martin On Thu, 2002-07-18 at 13:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I have a question. It seems that you all kinda know each other. Where is > everyone located? > > Aaron > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail:

[NEWS] Jetspeed 1.4b1 has been released

2002-07-18 Thread Paul Spencer
Below is a link to the Jetspeed v1.4b1 release announcement. Please add this item to the news page. http://www.mail-archive.com/jetspeed-user%40jakarta.apache.org/msg05060.html Thank you, Paul Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional c

Re: localhost:8080 vs localhost???

2002-07-18 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Andy FAQ: http://www.trilug.org/~acoliver/ -Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I have a question. It seems that you all kinda know each other. Where is >everyone located? > >Aaron > > >-- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: >For additional commands, e-mail:

RE: localhost:8080 vs localhost???

2002-07-18 Thread AManns
I have a question. It seems that you all kinda know each other. Where is everyone located? Aaron -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail: