[Proposal] SuperXMailer

2003-04-01 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Hi All, I'm pleased to finally propose the SuperXMailer for Jakarta via the incubator. I'd like for the Jakarta PMC/committers to vote a tacit approval of the project before we work on acceptance into the incubator. I'm sure that despite the inevitable controversy, folks will see a true

Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer

2003-04-01 Thread Steven Noels
On 1/04/2003 22:03 Andrew C. Oliver wrote: I'm pleased to finally propose the SuperXMailer for Jakarta via the incubator. :-D Nice one! /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog at

Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer

2003-04-01 Thread Erik Price
Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Hi All, I'm pleased to finally propose the SuperXMailer for Jakarta via the incubator. I'd like for the Jakarta PMC/committers to vote a tacit approval of the project before we work on acceptance into the incubator. I'm sure that despite the inevitable controversy,

Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer

2003-04-01 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 03:21 PM, Tom Copeland wrote: +1 if I could just think of a BUSINESS PROPOSAL that could put this to use Let me help you get started: Hello honored sir, my name is Mkwila Mnembi, and I am the

Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer

2003-04-01 Thread Tom Copeland
I'm +1 to Andrew's proposal. I think it is terrible that there is not an enterprise class open source solution in this field. All those poor businessmen, using hacked together solutions or proprietary technologies. To make success inevitable, let's start by drawing a bunch of UML diagrams!

RE: [Proposal] SuperXMailer

2003-04-01 Thread Danny Angus
Nice one, made my day :-) d. -Original Message- From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 April 2003 21:03 To: Jakarta General List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Proposal] SuperXMailer Hi All, I'm pleased to finally propose the SuperXMailer for Jakarta via the

Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer

2003-04-01 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Interested in being a committer? Just add your name! Steven Noels wrote: On 1/04/2003 22:03 Andrew C. Oliver wrote: I'm pleased to finally propose the SuperXMailer for Jakarta via the incubator. :-D Nice one! /Steven

Re: XDoclet2@Jakarta and LGPL libraries.

2003-04-01 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Can you get Mark Wutka to state that his LGPL explicitly permits linking and that section 6 of the LGPL does not apply to end users, etc etc? Is he the copyright holder? If so than you should be good to go (from my understanding). (As the copyright holder he can explicitly address the issues

Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer

2003-04-01 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
To make success inevitable, let's start by drawing a bunch of UML diagrams! And we need to work on implementing a CMM process for opensource. The SDLC seems like an excellent way to do that. If we can get developers working along the SDLC, I think we could get a more repeatable

RE: [Proposal] SuperXMailer

2003-04-01 Thread Howard M. Lewis Ship
eb site and additional examples. [2] identify the initial source from which the project is to be populated The project currently resides on the SourceForge (http://tapestry.sf.net). My wife says I sometimes code in my sleep. Now I know what I've been up-to :-) Gotta watch that

Re: XDoclet2@Jakarta and LGPL libraries.

2003-04-01 Thread Henri Yandell
Is this reply FAQ/Wiki'd somewhere? Seems to me to be a good set of questions to ask of an LGPL project to cause happiness all around. Assuming it's okay with the powers that be, boards/committees/usuals. Hen On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Can you get Mark Wutka to state that

Re: XDoclet2@Jakarta and LGPL libraries.

2003-04-01 Thread Sam Ruby
Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Can you get Mark Wutka to state that his LGPL explicitly permits linking and that section 6 of the LGPL does not apply to end users, etc etc? Is he the copyright holder? If so than you should be good to go (from my understanding). (As the copyright holder he can

Re: XDoclet2@Jakarta and LGPL libraries.

2003-04-01 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Sam Ruby wrote: Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Can you get Mark Wutka to state that his LGPL explicitly permits linking and that section 6 of the LGPL does not apply to end users, etc etc? Is he the copyright holder? If so than you should be good to go (from my

Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer

2003-04-01 Thread Costin Manolache
You did actually create a sourceforge project for this joke ? Costin Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Hi All, I'm pleased to finally propose the SuperXMailer for Jakarta via the incubator. I'd like for the Jakarta PMC/committers to vote a tacit approval of the project before we work on

RE: XDoclet2@Jakarta and LGPL libraries.

2003-04-01 Thread Aslak Hellesoy
I just got an answer from Mark. So I guess it should be ok without further ado. Pleas let me know if it ain't. Cheers, Aslak -Original Message- From: Mark Wutka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2. april 2003 00:24 To: Aslak Hellesoy Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [EMAIL

Re: XDoclet2@Jakarta and LGPL libraries.

2003-04-01 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Sam Ruby wrote: Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Can you get Mark Wutka to state that his LGPL explicitly permits linking and that section 6 of the LGPL does not apply to end users, etc etc? Is he the copyright holder? If so than you should be good to go (from my understanding). (As the copyright

Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer

2003-04-01 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
:-D I created the sourceforge project months and months ago! With full disclosure as to its purpose. -Andy Costin Manolache wrote: You did actually create a sourceforge project for this joke ? Costin Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Hi All, I'm pleased to finally propose the SuperXMailer for

Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer

2003-04-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr .
You've spent months planning an April Fool's joke? On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 08:12 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: :-D I created the sourceforge project months and months ago! With full disclosure as to its purpose. -Andy Costin Manolache wrote: You did actually create a sourceforge

Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer

2003-04-01 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Its april fools day? I spent 5 minutes, months ago... -Andy Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: You've spent months planning an April Fool's joke? On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 08:12 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: :-D I created the sourceforge project months and months ago! With full disclosure as to

Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer

2003-04-01 Thread Ben Walding
All, In order to minimise the possibility of brand overloading or brand segmentation I propose that we introduce the standard community building techniques. So to this end I propose the immediate creation of * a wiki to capture all this valuable discussion * a set of blogs so that members of

Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer

2003-04-01 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
on 2003/4/1 6:08 PM, Ben Walding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is called value-adding in the commercial world. Some of you communist coding hippies may not have heard of this. Of course there is no value in open source since it is all free. =) -jon -- BU** SH**