RE: [VOTE] ASL vs. GPL page: is this okay?

2002-03-07 Thread Ceki Gulcu
>Ceki are you sure? >>I think we definitely need a solid document countering the >> idyllic but false world depicted >> by the FSF. > >I agree with comments you have made already, about the importance of licence >and legal to ASF, Jakarta, and individuals involved, but I'm still not >convinced th

RE: [VOTE] ASL vs. GPL page: is this okay?

2002-03-07 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Hi Alex, You are absolutely right. I thought I had this one nailed but apparently not. Thank you for pointing out my mistake. Regards, Ceki >> Asunto: Re: [VOTE] ASL vs. GPL page: is this okay? >> The "Working Without Copyleft" article is remarkably good. The point >> about the FSF controlling t

Re: ECS?? _TOP_ level project of Jakarta??

2002-01-29 Thread Ceki Gulcu
In your opinion, what are the key factors in nurturing a developer community? -- Ceki > It is very easy to monday-morning quaterback and second guess the > decisions that were made in the distant past with perfect 20-20 > hindsight. Some might even find it amusing to single out some of the >

[PATCH] xdocs/stylesheets/site.vsl

2002-01-28 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Hello, I have modified xdocs/stylesheets/site.vsl so that elements in the XML file are translated into meta tags in the HTML header. This is useful for example to add keyword meta tags which make it easy for search engines to categorize the page. The addition is very simple and consists of the

Possiblly an attack, certainly a nuissance

2002-01-28 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Hi, Could we please disable posts from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to jakarta/apache lists. This person (or an impostor) has posted emails with the title "new photos from my party!" to many jakarta lists. The content of this mail is possibly a virus. TIA, Ceki __

Re: More abuse of coding styles...

2002-01-10 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Micael, I guess my remarks on typing "this" do sound arrogant. Point well taken. Regards, Ceki --- Micael Padraig Og mac Grene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 07:07 PM 1/9/02 -0800, you wrote: > >Ceki Gülcü <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > People who repeatedly forget to type "this" > repr

Re: [PATCH] jakarta-site2/xdocs/site/mail.xml

2002-01-09 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Done. I hope the actual patch contains less typos than my previous mail describing the patch. :-) --- Jon Scott Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 1/9/02 4:27 AM, "Ceki Gulcu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hello all, > > > &g

[PATCH] jakarta-site2/xdocs/site/mail.xml

2002-01-09 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Hello all, Here is a patch jakarta-site2/xdocs/site/mail.xml, the source for the http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html page. The patch contains a few corrections, a sligt re-organisation and some stylistic changes. I think it provides for easier reading. I have not yet applied the patch

Re: Commons Validator Packaging/Content

2002-01-07 Thread Ceki Gulcu
--- Peter Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 21:33, Ceki Gulcu wrote: > > Peter, > > > > So are you proposing to become a log4j committer? > > Would there be a point to that? It depends on whether and how you want to contribute. There s

Re: Commons Validator Packaging/Content

2002-01-07 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Peter, So are you proposing to become a log4j committer? Regards, Ceki --- Peter Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 09:15, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > > Of course it is easier to start from scratch to > invent yet another > > validation framework. This is where I see another

Re: Commons Validator Packaging/Content

2002-01-07 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Sam, You are right "stop creating new projects" does not solve the "Validator" problem. However, stopping the creation of new projects might have long term effects. The effect might be increased collaboration or alternatively everyone leaving. It is a dangerous/stupid/daring (pick your choice)

Re: Code conventions

2002-01-02 Thread Ceki Gulcu
At 19:23 02.01.2002 +1100, you wrote: >On Wed, 2 Jan 2002 08:58, Ceki Gulcu wrote: >> At 07:39 02.01.2002 +1100, Peter Donald wrote: >> >Hi, >> > >> >This is not something that should have been brought up on the PMC list - >> > it should be discuss

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-02 Thread Ceki Gulcu
At 18:56 01.01.2002 -0800, Craig R. McClanahan wrote: >On Tue, 1 Jan 2002, Ted Husted wrote: > >> Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 14:54:30 -0500 >> From: Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: Jakarta General List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: Jakarta General List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: Ju

Re: Code conventions

2002-01-01 Thread Ceki Gulcu
lesson which I am not about to renew. Have a nice day, Ceki At 17:33 01.01.2002 -0500, you wrote: >Ceki Gulcu wrote: >> Peter I do not need your permission to bring up a subject on the PMC >> list. It was uncourteous of you to forward my message to the general >> list without p

Re: Code conventions

2002-01-01 Thread Ceki Gulcu
At 07:39 02.01.2002 +1100, Peter Donald wrote: >Hi, > >This is not something that should have been brought up on the PMC list - it >should be discussed on general. Peter I do not need your permission to bring up a subject on the PMC list. It was uncourteous of you to forward my message to the g

Re: [PROPOSAL] New Project Creation Guidelines

2001-10-18 Thread Ceki Gulcu
> Jon Stevens wrote: > > > > Here is my proposal for new project creation guidelines. I have not > linked > > it into the main site until I can get 3 +1 votes from the PMC and 0 -1 > votes > > from the PMC. > > > > > > > > I will accept any pat

Re: ASPizer

2001-10-17 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Endre, > Of course it's not a dumping ground. > > This is about whether the Open Source Community at Apache would be > interested in a project. Starting the debate from Apache's side with such > crude, ugly, disrespectful remarks like Jon's coming up with is just not > fair. This company is "dum

Re: ASPizer

2001-10-17 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Endre, Although Jon might not be the most politically-correct person around, he is usually right. Jon is correct to observe that Jakarta is not a dumping ground for .bomb projects. I am very grateful to Jon for having the courage to speak up his mind. One might be crititical of Jon but he rema

Is cvs.working-dogs.com down?

2001-04-24 Thread Ceki Gulcu
Hello, I am not able to connnect to cvs.working-dogs.com:6667 nor ping cvs.working-dogs.com. Is the machine down by any chance or has the venue changed? Ceki = - Ceki Gulcu E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rumine 5 Tel:++41-21-351 23