Ted,
The reason I brought up the issue on the PMC list rather than on general was to see if there was consensus on the subject in a smaller group. There seems to be no such consensus. Consequently, it does not make sense to submit the proposal to the jakarta community. This has been a good lesson which I am not about to renew. Have a nice day, Ceki At 17:33 01.01.2002 -0500, you wrote: >Ceki Gulcu wrote: >> Peter I do not need your permission to bring up a subject on the PMC >> list. It was uncourteous of you to forward my message to the general >> list without permission. If you had read my proposal carefully you >> would have seen that my proposal was to reach agreement on the PMC >> list first and than consult with the wider jakarta community. > >Peter has a point, in that we're only suppose to use the PMC list for >security or other sensitive issues, much the way the Committer list is >used. Anything else should be handled on General. I didn't bring it up >myself, since I was hoping it would just go away. Discussing coding >conventions just creates a lot of traffic, and never accomplishes very >much. > >AFAIK, a formal change to the guidelines like this will require a 3/4 >vote of the PMC, and it would seem unlikely that a proposal like this >would receive the requisite number of votes. Personally, I'm happy with >the guideline we already have > >http://jakarta.apache.org/site/source.html > > >-- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. >-- Building Java web applications with Struts. >-- Tel +1 585 737-3463. >-- Web http://www.husted.com/struts/ > > > >-------- Original Message -------- >Subject: Code conventions >Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 02:18:18 +0100 >From: Ceki G�lc� <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Jakarta Project Management Committee List" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Hello all, > >As a follow up to the indentation discussion on the members list, I >would like to propose the following text to popular (=committer) vote. > >Please indicate if you agree with the procedure of PMC draft followed >by popular vote. Although the PMC may have the mandate to impose >indentation >rules, I feel it is wiser to consult the wider committer population. > >Here is my first draft of the text to be submitted to popular vote. > >====================================================================== > >In order to enforce cohesion across Jakarta projects as well as the >jakarta brand, the jakarta PMC would like to submit the following two >articles to popular vote. > >Article 1) > > All Java Language source code in the repository must be written in >conformance to the "Code Conventions for the Java Programming >Language" (http://java.sun.com/docs/codeconv/html/CodeConvTOC.doc.html) >as >published by Sun. > >Article 2) > > Recognizing that migrating large amounts of code is no trivial >matter, a transition period of 6 months, starting after the adoption >of Article 1, is hereby granted to every subproject. After the >transition period every project is expected to fully adhere to the >code conventions adopted in Article 1. > >The above articles will be adopted if and only if at least two thirds >of expressed votes are cast in favor. > >Note that article 1 implies K&R style indentation of braces. > >======================================================================== > >Regards, Ceki > >ps. Best wishes for the new year. > >-- > >Ceki G�lc� - http://qos.ch > >-- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
