However wrong or right you are or were, Jon, the place you site is clearly
written by a "box of rocks".
At 11:58 PM 1/29/03 -0800, you wrote:
http://www.freeroller.net/page/ara_e/20021214
I think we are going to see more and more of this over the coming year as
the economy gets worse and worse a
I think the next improvement on who decides should mention guns, anthrax, etc.?
At 10:08 AM 1/29/03 -0500, you wrote:
Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
"Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes
decide everything."
--Josef Stalin
Actually, the latest update to this is, "The cour
Good dialogue.
At 04:32 PM 1/28/03 +0100, you wrote:
I have reservations:
Let's go...
1) It's definitely a GUI focused project. Jakarta as a project has not yet
made any moves to support Java projects which do not have some form of
server aspect. Just as DB based Java projects are going into
I suppose it is otoise whether or not you have looked at Chiki?
At 12:39 AM 12/21/02 +1100, you wrote:
About a month ago a discussion occurred over on turbine-user/dev about the
possibility of setting up a wiki to use for creating ad hoc documentation as
well as a place to develop more formal doc
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> CVS (see the FreeBSD experience).
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> There's nothing "open" about that.
That's why the Foundation is working to fix that...
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-Brian
I think this thread has lost its way :-)
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9, 8, and 7 will all these XML
> >compliance features?
> >
> >Office 11 will be closer than anything before, but I might
> be inclined
> >to drop java if what they see is the same as what they do :)
> >
> >Scott
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That is funny James. I really wonder if Aaron can truly believe we are so
dim-witted or that anything he said was worth the time saying. God, some
people! Micael
At 03:14 PM 12/6/2002 -0800, you wrote:
> the number 1 selling OS
In case anyone hasn't seen this yet, I've attach
; financial motives, and Sun is near the top of the list, along with M$.
>
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Sun is being stupid, since I don't know what I would do
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> > We, the Open Source community, really _are_ famous and
> important and
> > note-worthy. Woo-hoo!
> >
> > ___
> > svlug maili
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Bingo!
At 10:55 AM 10/8/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Its too bad that the clans don't play nice together... I'm convinced
>together... They could come up with something MUCH MUCH better than this
>mess. (provided some GUI wonks could be found) ;-)
>
>(and there is my theme) ;-)
>
>-Andy
>
>
>On Tue,
I think we can all agree that there are varying issues here. For some
environments, especially those that allow "htmlers" (which we all are) to
dink with backend code, jsp probably is not the best solution. For other
environments, it is a boon.
At 01:21 AM 10/8/2002 +0100, you wrote:
>On 8/1
earest HUP versions, but if you have urgent
>demand for it I could revisit my priorities.
>
>Michael
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Micael Padraig Og mac Grene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 9:33 AM
>To: Jakarta General List
>Subje
This does not work with Linux/Unix?
At 09:36 AM 2/27/02 +0200, you wrote:
>Jon, you wrote that you don't care about how helpful project might be. I
>hope that you didn't mean that you don't care if Jakarta projects could be
>improved by it. You do care about Jakarta, don't you? :)
>
>-Origin
I don't care for the flame war, but I am interested in this project and
appreciate you making it available, Michael.
At 09:36 AM 2/27/02 +0200, you wrote:
>Jon, you wrote that you don't care about how helpful project might be. I
>hope that you didn't mean that you don't care if Jakarta projects
Microsoft leadership for the whole
>group!
>
>-Andy
>
>On Sun, 2002-02-24 at 16:45, Micael Padraig Og mac Grene wrote:
> > Do you really thing that C# is going to be a competitor to Java? That
> > amazes me. Do you guys work for Microsoft?
> >
> > At 10:2
times more
restrictive. Yah, that's the ticket. Why don't we get a dialogue going on
why Sun is doing what it is doing and work towards solving the problem
rather than supporting Mickey Mouse who would trade us for a pad of butter,
if it were not for Sun's competition looming in th
Do you really thing that C# is going to be a competitor to Java? That
amazes me. Do you guys work for Microsoft?
At 10:28 AM 2/24/02 +0100, you wrote:
>James Duncan Davidson wrote:
> >
> > On 2/5/02 08:24, "Stefano Mazzocchi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > My position: give me a solid (p
McClanahan ROCKS!
At 12:32 PM 2/6/02 -0500, you wrote:
>Craig McClanahan wrote:
> >
> > At Apache, I got involved in the Apache JServ project before there was a
> > Jakarta (along with other long timers like Jon, Pier, and Stefano), and
>at
> > the ApacheCon just after the Tomcat source code was
Thanx -- I saved the url.
At 03:36 PM 2/5/02 -0500, you wrote:
>If you liked that, you might also like
>http://radio.weblogs.com/0101679/2002/02/02.html#a61 . On the other hand,
>I wouldn't spend too much time at that site as it is filled with boring
>stuff like Web Services.
>
>- Sam Ruby
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Sam, I always get a kick out of your droll submissions. Thanks for the
quiet humor, which always includes informational content and never is too
biting. Micael
At 01:55 PM 2/5/02 -0500, you wrote:
>Scott Sanders wrote:
> >
> > Stefano, you are right on the mark as usual. As s
Thanks, Jon. You are a legend.
At 12:19 PM 2/1/02 -0800, you wrote:
>Hey all,
>
>I just wanted to say that I'm not going to accept my Jakarta PMC nomination
>and do not want to be included in the voting for the next election.
>
>I have been involved with Java Apache/Jakarta since Sept 1996 and I
(on other matters) who
builds languages, viz. Craig Chambers with U. of Wash. computer science
(engineering). Maybe he has a couple thoughts, or more.
- micael
At 01:54 PM 1/31/02 -0800, you wrote:
> > From: Micael Padraig Og mac Grene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >
> > Are you j
Are you just talking about creating a new language, or what? What is your
idea? I cannot tell.
At 12:38 PM 1/31/02 -0800, you wrote:
>Amusingly enough, I've been considering writing an article with this
>exact same title. I've implemented two medium-sized systems using EJBs
>(http://www.simil
>
>There's only possibility of problem there when you don't copy and
>paste your variable names.
On the one hand, arrogance is never helpful, if you mean to be helpful. If
you want to show off how smart you are, on the other hand, it is a great
tool. The difference is whether
At 03:44 PM 1/7/02 -0500, you wrote:
>Guys,
>
>This whole experience has become a bit disheartening. Craig McClanahan
>who is like an idol of mine said this:
What I like most about Craig is that he is concise and accurate.
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At 09:30 PM 12/29/01 +0100, you wrote:
>Micael i am aware of the fact that this is for sure true for you right now.
>from my
>point of view it looks a little different right now - over the last year i
>have developed theoretical research on this topic one aspect in it iso the
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At 02:40 PM 12/29/01 -0500, you wrote:
>Micael Padraig Og mac Grene wrote:
> > When studying subcultures, the first rule is to not abuse them. This
> > request is inconsistent with the tenets of this culture.
> >
> > - micael
>
>Why do you say that, Micael?
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>and be presented on 01.16.02 at University of Vienna. After this I would
>like to translate the results into English for all of you.
>
>It would make me happy if some of you could answer some oft the questions.
>
>Sari
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I agree with you people. Good soil to till.
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>Cory L Hubert wrote:
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>> I think it's time for it as well. Oracle, DB2, Sybase
I am with you on that one, Jon. I cannot figure out why people would use
JSP when they have Servlets. I think JSP was really just to counter ASP.
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