From: "Steven Noels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Leo Simons wrote:
>
> > It has been brought up by many people that there
> > is no common way of organising subproject websites.
> > I propose we draft a set of guidelines (_not_
> > rules) on a general structure.
> >
> > Lets start with some discussion
> On Wed, 2002-03-27 at 17:13, Leo Simons wrote:
> > It has been brought up by many people that there
> > is no common way of organising subproject websites.
> > I propose we draft a set of guidelines (_not_
> > rules) on a general structure.
>
> http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/maven/
>
> Ther
Hello,
I have a BCEL bug to report but there doesn't seem to be a category for it in the bug
database. Should it go somewhere else or can you create a category?
Thanks,
Scott
Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 28/03/2002 08:15:53 AM:
> On Wed, 2002-03-27 at 17:13, Leo Simons wrote:
> > It has been brought up by many people that there
> > is no common way of organising subproject websites.
> > I propose we draft a set of guidelines (_not_
> > rules) on a genera
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 03:23:35PM -0800, Jon Scott Stevens wrote:
> on 3/27/02 2:26 PM, "Steven Noels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > All this and more is being tackled (slowly but steadily) in Forrest -
> > and having some Jakarta people involved for cross-pollination would be
> > good.
> >
on 3/27/02 2:26 PM, "Steven Noels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> All this and more is being tackled (slowly but steadily) in Forrest -
> and having some Jakarta people involved for cross-pollination would be
> good.
>
> There's not much yet except for the foundation and build environment and
> so
Costin, Morgan, Rodney,
Thanks for the lively discussion and sharing your points of view. My intent
was to warn users of the dangers of using common-logging. I have done
my bit. Cheers, Ceki
At 16:31 27.03.2002 -0600, Morgan wrote:
>I believe the order of precedence is well documented. I think
- Original Message -
From: "Ceki Gülcü" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jakarta General List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: Comments on the commons-logging API
> At 15:18 27.03.2002 -0600, Morgan Delagrange wrote:
> >Here's the problem, as I see it.
>
On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Ceki Gülcü wrote:
> So, if I understand correctly the reason for adopting commons-logging
> API is for convenience rather than non-intrusiveness as a library
> (with respect to logging).
The goals of commons-logging ( as I understand them ):
- non-intrusiveness
- convenience
Leo Simons wrote:
> It has been brought up by many people that there
> is no common way of organising subproject websites.
> I propose we draft a set of guidelines (_not_
> rules) on a general structure.
>
> Lets start with some discussion :)
All this and more is being tackled (slowly but steadi
On Wed, 2002-03-27 at 17:13, Leo Simons wrote:
> It has been brought up by many people that there
> is no common way of organising subproject websites.
> I propose we draft a set of guidelines (_not_
> rules) on a general structure.
http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/maven/
There's a sample struc
On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Ceki Gülcü wrote:
> At 10:15 27.03.2002 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >The goal is not to be able to change the logger at compile time, but to be
> >able to detect the platform logger and use it. The only way to do that is
> >via a standard API - and commons-logging seems
At 15:18 27.03.2002 -0600, Morgan Delagrange wrote:
>Here's the problem, as I see it.
>
>Suppose Commons component A decides to adopt Log4J, Commons component B
>decides to adopt LogKit, and Commons component C adopts JDK1.4 logging.
>They will all minimally function with the right jars in the cla
It has been brought up by many people that there
is no common way of organising subproject websites.
I propose we draft a set of guidelines (_not_
rules) on a general structure.
Lets start with some discussion :)
---
Navigation / Organis
On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Ceki Gülcü wrote:
> If your library chooses to use logging API XYZ, this does not impose
> XYZ to the clients of your library. Your clients can use the logging
> library they prefer (if they are using logging API) and your library
> can use XYZ.
And the user will have to co
- Original Message -
From: "Ceki Gülcü" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jakarta General List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:43 PM
Subject: RE: Comments on the commons-logging API
> At 11:49 27.03.2002 -0600, Rodney Waldhoff wrote:
>
> >But this isn't really the reason
At 11:49 27.03.2002 -0600, Rodney Waldhoff wrote:
>But this isn't really the reason commons-logging was created. Note that
>most of the commons components are just that--tiny libraries meant to be
>integrated/incorporated into larger frameworks and larger applications.
>Some of these components
Fixed.
Larry
> -Original Message-
> From: Pier Fumagalli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:56 PM
> To: Jakarta General List
> Subject: FW: Misspelling
>
>
>
> -- Forwarded Message
> From: "Kennedy, Scott, MDCT Trenton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed,
Taking the "release early, release often" advice to heart, I've
applied changes mentioned to the page at the url I posted earlier
and started work on the site.vsl file in jakarta-site2 (which
basically means cutting out a whole lot of stuff).
I've got no real previous experience with either the m
-- Forwarded Message
From: "Kennedy, Scott, MDCT Trenton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 14:21:26 -0500
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Misspelling
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news.html#0327.1
"release" is misspelled as "relase"
Regards,
Scott
-- End of Forwarded Mess
Hi,
I am trying to find out what the policy or guidelines are for setting up a
new top level CVS repository.
I am a committer to the Jakarta-Lucene project and would like to setup
Jakarta-Lucene-Sandbox repository.
Who is the correct person to make this request to?
Thanks
--Peter
--
To unsu
Ceki,
I'm not sure I understand very well this.
I think we have a consensus on few items ( and you seem to just repeat
them ):
- JDK1.4 logging is not useable as a 'standard logging API' ( even if it
is released under JCP )
- log4j is the best logger ( for Peter and few others: logkit is th
I'm quoting Ceki's entire message here because I think he raises a number of
interesting and valid points.
But I think this misinterprets what (in my mind) is the main point of
commons-logging.
One can use commons-logging, as you state, as a implementation-independent
logging wrapper in hopes of
On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> On 3/26/02 6:32 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Did anyone attending java one play with one ? Any good ? I am tempted to
> > get one - but am held back by an experience with them a year ago or so
> > when it barely worked
Shouldn't this be posted at the commons-dev list?
Or, at least, ALSO at commons-dev list?
Have fun,
Paulo Gaspar
> -Original Message-
> From: Ceki Gulcu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 5:11 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Comments on the commons-logging
> -Original Message-
> From: Jason Hunter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
>
> Was anyone watching the JavaOne keynote this morning? We successfully
> made the announcement about Apache and Sun coming to an
> agreement. The
> audience applauded as I announced every agreement point!
Huge
On 3/26/02 6:09 PM, "Marc Saegesser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was at the Keynote and I must that I was really impressed both with the
> work you guys did behind the scenes to make this happend and with your
> presentation on the stage.
>
> You certainly didn't look nervice!
>
I was there
Subject: Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering
From: Vic Cekvenich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
===
I enjoyed meeting everyone, it was great fun. Thanks. Vic
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> On 3/25/02 10:40 AM, "Jakarta General Newsgroup (@Basebeans.com)"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>>Subject: Re: JakartaO
Mathieu Gervais wrote:
> I'm not sure if this is the place to ask for this, but I've noticed the
> regexp project seems to not be maintained anymore. [...] Is it
> recomended to switch to ORO? [...] I think if
> this project is going without any active maintainer it should be noted
> on the
On 3/26/02 6:32 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Did anyone attending java one play with one ? Any good ? I am tempted to
> get one - but am held back by an experience with them a year ago or so
> when it barely worked - and would barf as soon as you did something
> serious
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