Re: Sun Is Losing Its Way

2002-12-13 Thread V. Cekvenich
To me that is the closed version of XFORMS. I likve novell.com/xforms that runs on Tomcat etc., and does not lock in a Windows client. .V Dominique Devienne wrote: Did you guys see in the news that Office 11 will have standard compliant XML schemas for Word and Excel files??? --DD

Thank you!

2002-12-13 Thread Markus Neifer
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Re: Sun Is Losing Its Way

2002-12-13 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Because its more stable and runs faster under Linux than Star/OpenOffice? -Andy Scott Sanders wrote: But EVERYONE knows Word is only used on emails and simple love letters (with viri) under 4 pages. Why would you use anything else? Scott PS I do use Windows at work, and I even once had

Re: Sun Is Losing Its Way

2002-12-13 Thread Brian McCallister
On Fri, 2002-12-13 at 09:18, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Because its more stable and runs faster under Linux than Star/OpenOffice? Sadly, MS Word under CrossOver Office is more stable on my Linux workstation at work than OpenOffice. Hopefully this will change. -Brian -- To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: Sun Is Losing Its Way

2002-12-13 Thread mohammad nabil
I think this thread has lost its way :-) Conor you are right! Because its more stable and runs faster under Linux than Star/OpenOffice? Sadly, MS Word under CrossOver Office is more stable on my Linux workstation at work than OpenOffice. Hopefully this will change. -Brian so ppl,

Re: Sun Is Losing Its Way

2002-12-13 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Sadly, MS Word under CrossOver Office is more stable on my Linux workstation at work than OpenOffice. Hopefully this will change. -Brian so ppl, why don't you report bugs so they can make it stable?!!! Before you lecture, go look at the OpenOffice sources. It is amazing that the thing

[OT] Re: Sun Is Losing Its Way

2002-12-13 Thread micael
Amen, Brother. Kill this thread! At 01:50 AM 12/14/2002 +1100, you wrote: Brian McCallister wrote: On Fri, 2002-12-13 at 09:18, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Because its more stable and runs faster under Linux than Star/OpenOffice? Sadly, MS Word under CrossOver Office is more stable on my Linux

Re: Sun Is Losing Its Way

2002-12-13 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 06:42:36PM +0200, mohammad nabil wrote: support Sun, Open Source, and all good manufacturar in our nice world :) Do you just not grasp that Sun's rigid control of Java is the antithesis of Open Source, and _especially_ the Apache philosophy? Try forking the Java

Nagoya Moved...

2002-12-13 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Ok, I got a couple of complaints from freaks whose DNS didn't refresh all right (not _my_ fault :-)... If someone on your favorite list is complaining that they can't see Nagoya, or the bug database, tell them to fix their DNS server (first) and to use the (new) IP address straight:

Re: Sun Is Losing Its Way

2002-12-13 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 13/12/02 20:00 Jeff Schnitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 06:42:36PM +0200, mohammad nabil wrote: support Sun, Open Source, and all good manufacturar in our nice world :) Do you just not grasp that Sun's rigid control of Java is the antithesis of Open Source, and

Re: Sun Is Losing Its Way

2002-12-13 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Sun is exactly what Microsoft would be if it were short a few billion dollars. To think otherwise is to significantly deceive ones self. -Andy Jeff Schnitzer wrote: On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 06:42:36PM +0200, mohammad nabil wrote: support Sun, Open Source, and all good manufacturar in our

Re: Sun Is Losing Its Way

2002-12-13 Thread micael
To suggest that Sun [t]here's nothing 'open' about Sun is not very insightful. Compare them to Microsoft, for example. You need to speak in ways that at least pass the laugh test. Sun deserves one hell of a lot of credit. At 02:44 AM 12/14/2002 +, you wrote: On 13/12/02 20:00 Jeff