Blog mumblings
I got chatty blog-wise about the last 6 months chair-wise for me and ideas for 2005. Nothing really new to anyone on the list I suspect, but might be interesting reading: http://blog.generationjava.com/roller/comments/bayard/Weblog/jakarta_2005#comments and http://blog.generationjava.com/roller/comments/bayard/Weblog/jakarta_20051#comments Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [site] next step - 3-tier + welcome
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005, Brett Porter wrote: [The aim is to use inline styles for the interim, and then migrate to a real css sheet later]. Will it use the same styles as the foundation/top level site? Especially given that they look so similar now, its a bit weird that the fonts change. Looks like www.apache uses: Arial, Geneva, Helvetica, sans-serif whereas jakarta.apache only specifies the font for headings and uses: arial,helvetica,sanserif Sites always seem to be better with an actual font choice and not defaults, so I see no problem with changing fonts. Might end up tie-ing a .css sheet into the xsl as that's the easiest way to handle such things. Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Jakarta Wiki] Updated: Migrating to Subversion
Date: 2005-01-03T19:23:18 Editor: HenriYandell Wiki: Jakarta Wiki Page: Migrating to Subversion URL: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/Migrating to Subversion no comment Change Log: -- @@ -38,13 +38,13 @@ * Commons - Martin Cooper + Tim O'Brien - [http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/SubversionConversion Conversion Instructions] * ECS - Robert Burell Donkin. * HiveMind - (I assume this will be ready when Tapestry is) - * JMeter- Nudged. + * JMeter- Nudge sent. * Lucene- Will convert as part of the move to search.apache.org TLP * ORO - '''DONE'''. Daniel Savarese. * POI - Nudged. Is OS X support good enough? amongst other questions. * Regexp- Henri Yandell - ["Regexp Subversion Conversion"] * Slide - Waiting for next release (has now been released). Stefan Lützkendorf. - * Taglibs + * Taglibs - Nudge sent. * Tapestry - Nudged. Is Subclipse good enough? * Tomcat * Turbine - Henning Schmiedehausen, Daniel Rall - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Jakarta Wiki] Updated: Migrating to Subversion
Date: 2005-01-03T19:16:01 Editor: HenriYandell Wiki: Jakarta Wiki Page: Migrating to Subversion URL: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/Migrating to Subversion no comment Change Log: -- @@ -31,23 +31,23 @@ == Migration Plan == - * Alexandria- Archive. - * BCEL + * Alexandria- Archive. Will do this last. + * BCEL - Henri Yandell * BSF - * Cactus + * Cactus- Nudged. * Commons - Martin Cooper + Tim O'Brien - [http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/SubversionConversion Conversion Instructions] * ECS - Robert Burell Donkin. - * HiveMind - * JMeter + * HiveMind - (I assume this will be ready when Tapestry is) + * JMeter- Nudged. * Lucene- Will convert as part of the move to search.apache.org TLP * ORO - '''DONE'''. Daniel Savarese. - * POI + * POI - Nudged. Is OS X support good enough? amongst other questions. * Regexp- Henri Yandell - ["Regexp Subversion Conversion"] - * Slide - Waiting for next release. Stefan Lützkendorf. + * Slide - Waiting for next release (has now been released). Stefan Lützkendorf. * Taglibs - * Tapestry + * Tapestry - Nudged. Is Subclipse good enough? * Tomcat * Turbine - Henning Schmiedehausen, Daniel Rall - * Velocity - '''DONE'''. Needs modification to line endings of some files. Daniel Rall. - * Watchdog + * Velocity - '''DONE'''. Needs modification to line endings of some files and folding of 3 dirs into 1. Daniel Rall. + * Watchdog - Archive? Will do this last. * Site2 - Tim O'Brien - ["Site2 Conversion Instructions"] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt
Mark Thomas wrote: Thanks for the offer of help. I was planning at looking at this tomorrow. I was going to look in CVS to see what you changed on jakarta-site2 and go from there. If anything doesn't make sense I'll let you know. FYI: The Tomcat site now builds (via ANT and XLST) without the need for jakarta-site2. There is plenty of scope for streamlining the build but that is rather lower priority. Mark - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005, robert burrell donkin wrote: On 3 Jan 2005, at 14:25, John Rasmussen wrote: Henri, I've followed these listings for some time, and as a member of a leading xml aware networking organization, have wondered if my expertise and experience could be of value. expertise and experience are always valued here :) You mean you could know more than the O'Reilly XSLT book that I have to pour through to remind myself of simple changes? :) Any help is very welcome. The only one that leaps to mind right now is the Ant xslt task, where I'm having to c+p a bit more than I want to. So not really an xslt problem. Seb's recent suggestions fixed the major xslt problems I was facing. However, I'll start to compile a list; or you could take a look at http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-site2/xdocs/stylesheets/site.xsl?view=markup and let us know what's screwy. There's obviously a lot that needs to move into CSS. I've a set of changes for the 3-tier version that aren't checked in yet; though as I screwed up it is viewable in an older version: http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-site2/xdocs/stylesheets/site.xsl?rev=1.15&view=markup It's generally not much different. project.xml changes to site.xml and I modify that to have navbar elements. The site/logo bit needs to be removed too. the reason these discussions are on a public list is so that anyone in the jakarta community (whether users, developers, committers, pmc'ers or members) can contribute to the discussion and help build a better jakarta. thanks for speaking up and i'd like to extend an open invitation to any other lurkers who've been waiting for a reason to join in... +1 Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 09:02:23 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, 3 Jan 2005, sebb wrote: > > > On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 19:15:59 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > >> On Sun, 2 Jan 2005, sebb wrote: > >> > >>> Looks like a *lot* of other projects use the Anakia jars and/or > >>> stylesheets from jakarta-site2 - not just jakarta-tomcat-site...so > >>> perhaps those need to be restored. > >> > >> Sites with the older l&f: > >> > >> Taglibs, Velocity, BSF, ECS, JMeter, Lucene, ORO, Regexp, Slide, Tomcat, > >> Watchdog. > >> > >> However, the following all appear to be self contained/non-users: > >> > >> Taglibs, Velocity, BSF, Watchdog, Slide. > >> > >>> Sorry, should have remembered that, as it used to apply to jmeter... > >> > >> + JMeter. > >> > >> So the broken ones look like they are Tomcat, Regexp, ORO, Lucene, ECS. > >> > > > > I did a search for the string "jakarta-site2" in the build.xml,v files > > in CVS, and that produced quite a lot of hits (see > > http://www.apache.org/~sebb/js2.txt - note that the matched text is > > *followed* by the file name). > > > > Some of the matches relate to history items, but some are in the HEAD > > versions of the files, for example: > > > > http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/ant/proposal/ant-site/anakia/build.xml?only_with_tag=HEAD&view=markup > > > > http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-commons/httpclient/build.xml?only_with_tag=HEAD&view=markup > > > > Of course we don't know if the build targets are actually still used, > > but it suggests that these files are rather more generally used. > > Both HttpClient and Ant appear to use Maven or Forrest for their sites > though, so I'd think it's a pretty low chance that they still use things. > > I think all of Commons is Mavenised, and I checked all of Jakarta in this > way to find old style l&f and then examined those by hand. Looking at the > graduated projects, Struts and James still look old style; so they've got > a good chance of still using site2. > > Looking at them, both Struts and James appear to be on XSLT variants, but > no use of the site2 jars or stylesheets. WRT Struts, it does not depend on site2. Its site generation is self-contained. -- Martin Cooper > Still, not to say that others in your list don't use it, such as jyve or > various proposals in James etc, just nothing 'big' I think. > > Hen > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt
sebb wrote: > Looks like a *lot* of other projects use the Anakia jars and/or > stylesheets from jakarta-site2 - not just jakarta-tomcat-site. Including, FWIW, JAMES (ex-Jakarta project). But we can clone what we need until/if we replace it. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt
On 3 Jan 2005, at 14:25, John Rasmussen wrote: Henri, I've followed these listings for some time, and as a member of a leading xml aware networking organization, have wondered if my expertise and experience could be of value. expertise and experience are always valued here :) I am especially adept at xslt. Is there a need for contributions in this arena? any suggestions for improvements will be eagerly listened to. (perhaps henri may like to jump in with any specific task's he has in mind...) the reason these discussions are on a public list is so that anyone in the jakarta community (whether users, developers, committers, pmc'ers or members) can contribute to the discussion and help build a better jakarta. thanks for speaking up and i'd like to extend an open invitation to any other lurkers who've been waiting for a reason to join in... - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt
On 3 Jan 2005, at 00:15, Henri Yandell wrote: On Sun, 2 Jan 2005, sebb wrote: Looks like a *lot* of other projects use the Anakia jars and/or stylesheets from jakarta-site2 - not just jakarta-tomcat-site...so perhaps those need to be restored. Sites with the older l&f: Taglibs, Velocity, BSF, ECS, JMeter, Lucene, ORO, Regexp, Slide, Tomcat, Watchdog. However, the following all appear to be self contained/non-users: Taglibs, Velocity, BSF, Watchdog, Slide. Sorry, should have remembered that, as it used to apply to jmeter... + JMeter. So the broken ones look like they are Tomcat, Regexp, ORO, Lucene, ECS. the ECS web site build is bust anyway. (i have to manually hack stuff whenever i need to change it.) could do with a tidy up after the move to subversion. - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt
Henri, I've followed these listings for some time, and as a member of a leading xml aware networking organization, have wondered if my expertise and experience could be of value. I am especially adept at xslt. Is there a need for contributions in this arena? Regards, John Rasmussen DataPower Technology, Inc. One Alewife Center Cambridge, MA 02140, US Office: US +1 617.864.0455 x359 Fax: US +1 617.864.0458 -Original Message- From: Henri Yandell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 9:02 AM To: Jakarta General List; sebb Subject: Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt On Mon, 3 Jan 2005, sebb wrote: > On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 19:15:59 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> On Sun, 2 Jan 2005, sebb wrote: >> >>> Looks like a *lot* of other projects use the Anakia jars and/or >>> stylesheets from jakarta-site2 - not just jakarta-tomcat-site...so >>> perhaps those need to be restored. >> >> Sites with the older l&f: >> >> Taglibs, Velocity, BSF, ECS, JMeter, Lucene, ORO, Regexp, Slide, Tomcat, >> Watchdog. >> >> However, the following all appear to be self contained/non-users: >> >> Taglibs, Velocity, BSF, Watchdog, Slide. >> >>> Sorry, should have remembered that, as it used to apply to jmeter... >> >> + JMeter. >> >> So the broken ones look like they are Tomcat, Regexp, ORO, Lucene, ECS. >> > > I did a search for the string "jakarta-site2" in the build.xml,v files > in CVS, and that produced quite a lot of hits (see > http://www.apache.org/~sebb/js2.txt - note that the matched text is > *followed* by the file name). > > Some of the matches relate to history items, but some are in the HEAD > versions of the files, for example: > > http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/ant/proposal/ant-site/anakia/build.xml?onl y_with_tag=HEAD&view=markup > > http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-commons/httpclient/build.xml?only_ with_tag=HEAD&view=markup > > Of course we don't know if the build targets are actually still used, > but it suggests that these files are rather more generally used. Both HttpClient and Ant appear to use Maven or Forrest for their sites though, so I'd think it's a pretty low chance that they still use things. I think all of Commons is Mavenised, and I checked all of Jakarta in this way to find old style l&f and then examined those by hand. Looking at the graduated projects, Struts and James still look old style; so they've got a good chance of still using site2. Looking at them, both Struts and James appear to be on XSLT variants, but no use of the site2 jars or stylesheets. Still, not to say that others in your list don't use it, such as jyve or various proposals in James etc, just nothing 'big' I think. Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005, sebb wrote: On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 19:15:59 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, 2 Jan 2005, sebb wrote: Looks like a *lot* of other projects use the Anakia jars and/or stylesheets from jakarta-site2 - not just jakarta-tomcat-site...so perhaps those need to be restored. Sites with the older l&f: Taglibs, Velocity, BSF, ECS, JMeter, Lucene, ORO, Regexp, Slide, Tomcat, Watchdog. However, the following all appear to be self contained/non-users: Taglibs, Velocity, BSF, Watchdog, Slide. Sorry, should have remembered that, as it used to apply to jmeter... + JMeter. So the broken ones look like they are Tomcat, Regexp, ORO, Lucene, ECS. I did a search for the string "jakarta-site2" in the build.xml,v files in CVS, and that produced quite a lot of hits (see http://www.apache.org/~sebb/js2.txt - note that the matched text is *followed* by the file name). Some of the matches relate to history items, but some are in the HEAD versions of the files, for example: http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/ant/proposal/ant-site/anakia/build.xml?only_with_tag=HEAD&view=markup http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-commons/httpclient/build.xml?only_with_tag=HEAD&view=markup Of course we don't know if the build targets are actually still used, but it suggests that these files are rather more generally used. Both HttpClient and Ant appear to use Maven or Forrest for their sites though, so I'd think it's a pretty low chance that they still use things. I think all of Commons is Mavenised, and I checked all of Jakarta in this way to find old style l&f and then examined those by hand. Looking at the graduated projects, Struts and James still look old style; so they've got a good chance of still using site2. Looking at them, both Struts and James appear to be on XSLT variants, but no use of the site2 jars or stylesheets. Still, not to say that others in your list don't use it, such as jyve or various proposals in James etc, just nothing 'big' I think. Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: jakarta-site2 now live on xslt
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 19:15:59 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sun, 2 Jan 2005, sebb wrote: > > > Looks like a *lot* of other projects use the Anakia jars and/or > > stylesheets from jakarta-site2 - not just jakarta-tomcat-site...so > > perhaps those need to be restored. > > Sites with the older l&f: > > Taglibs, Velocity, BSF, ECS, JMeter, Lucene, ORO, Regexp, Slide, Tomcat, > Watchdog. > > However, the following all appear to be self contained/non-users: > > Taglibs, Velocity, BSF, Watchdog, Slide. > > > Sorry, should have remembered that, as it used to apply to jmeter... > > + JMeter. > > So the broken ones look like they are Tomcat, Regexp, ORO, Lucene, ECS. > I did a search for the string "jakarta-site2" in the build.xml,v files in CVS, and that produced quite a lot of hits (see http://www.apache.org/~sebb/js2.txt - note that the matched text is *followed* by the file name). Some of the matches relate to history items, but some are in the HEAD versions of the files, for example: http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/ant/proposal/ant-site/anakia/build.xml?only_with_tag=HEAD&view=markup http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-commons/httpclient/build.xml?only_with_tag=HEAD&view=markup Of course we don't know if the build targets are actually still used, but it suggests that these files are rather more generally used. > I've added the jars and the vsl back in. This is also our list of people > that will have a problem when we migrate to SVN, but as they probably > never change the site2 bits, they'll probably be happy with a read-only > repository for a while. > > Regexp builds the docs now, so I'll trust the others are okay. > > Hen > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
