Re: We want to donate a XML / Cocoon / EJB / WebStart - based CMS
At 16:48 28/08/03, Sascha-Matthias Kulawik wrote: Hello, we've developed a XML-based Content Management System based on different technologies like Cocoon, XML, EJB and a WebStart Client Application. Hello Sascha-Matthias (I have only replied to the general list - I don't think you did yourself any favours by posting to so many lists at once) You should definitely familiarise yourself with the Lenya project (previously Wyona). This is a Cocoon based CMS currently in the Incubator. It also tries to re-use other APache components where appropriate. You should consider contributing your code to the Lenya team possibly as smaller re-useable components. (Make sure you follow the rules strictly about assigning copyright!) Although theoretically I am biased in favour of Lenya and also in favour of a little friendly competition I would much prefer it if your developers used your experience of writing ConQuest to improve Lenya rather than try to replace it. The project is existing since one year at our company as a closed source application. Why isn't it an open source project already? Perhaps you should Open Source the project, get loads of OSS developers, and then come back in three months. Alex McLintock Available for java/perl/C++/web development in London, UK or nearby. Apache FOP, Cocoon, Turbine, Struts,XSL:FO, XML, Tomcat, JSP http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Professional Apache Discussion
Is there any discussion going on of being professional Apache consultants? This sort of commercial discussion seems to be disliked on most software related mailing lists. Nicola Ken Barozzi (sp?) started up a list for this but it seems to be silent now. Alex Available for java/perl/C++/web development in London, UK or nearby. Apache FOP, Cocoon, Turbine, Struts,XSL:FO, XML, Tomcat, JSP http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache != HTTPD
Brian McCallister wrote: So... We are using Apache, that is really Apache Hutpud, but you cannot write hutpud because it confuses people about the Apache Software Foundation, which develops much more than hutpud. This is even worse =) At 16:28 17/07/03, Erik Price wrote: Spoken out loud, I use Apache Web Server and in writing I use Apache HTTPD. Once the context is clear (that I am referring to the software and not the organization), I typically shorten it to just Apache if I have to refer to it again. I have another related problem Recruitment Agent: Have you done Struts? Me: Yes I have done some Struts. I can point you at websites I have built with Apache Struts. Agent: Is that the same as Jakarta Struts? Me: explanation of the ASF and its projects I think this whole Jakarta brand has backfired and is diluting the Apache name. But few people seem to care about the ASF's professional image Alex Available for java/perl/C++/web development in London, UK or nearby. Apache FOP, Cocoon, Turbine, Struts,XSL:FO, XML, Tomcat, JSP http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: The vendors page
At 09:51 02/07/03 -0400, Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote: I'm tending towards the argument that if you can convince someone who has the right access to update the vendors.xml page, then you deserve to be on the list. Yep - so basically this should be decided on a subproject-level in Jakarta's case. I doubt *anyone* is able to support *all* Jakarta subprojects on a level that he/she serves his customers well. Suggestion: move this page away from the Jakarta main site, and stimulate subprojects to host their own vendor pages. /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ I'm not sure of the point of a Vendors page. There are so many different types of vendors covering so many projects that a single page - or even a single XML is not necessarily the right thing. I started a database of companies who support open source software but I am not sure it is the right as it is. I think Apache has grown large enough to need a database of trainers, consultants, developers, vendors, and other support companies who will provide assistence with using Apache software. We had a small mailing list for discussing these sorts of commercial aspects to using Apache software but it never really got off the ground. Alex McLintock - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Jakarta proposal: Pluto
At 13:38 21/01/03, Stefan Hepper wrote: Hi all, I would like to propose a new Jakarta project, named Pluto, that should provide the reference implementation of the JSR 168 Portlet Specification. Please see http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?PlutoProposal for more details (I've also attached the proposal below). My instant reaction was but we already have Jetspeed and then I read There is an agreement with JetSpeed? that the JetSpeed? will be based on this portlet container implementation. Cool. I think I could persuade more people to use Jetspeed if it used a recognised portlet standard. I then read. (3.4) Jyve FAQ (when available) I don't honestly believe that anyone has any interest in fixing Jyve I said I would some time ago, but failed - I don't even know the password for my [EMAIL PROTECTED] login account any more. I know that we are a eat-our-own-dogfood sort of society but I think this is one situation where we ought to admit that Jyve has failed. If I am wrong and there is a community of people willing to make Jyve work again then great. I would be quite happy being wrong about it. As an example I used to maintain a FOP faq with Jyve. Nowadays however I just use a perl script which displays all the submitted entries. Crude, but it works. http://www.OWAL.co.uk/cgi-bin/fopfaq.cgi Alex McLintock Available for java/perl/C++/web development in London, UK or nearby. Apache FOP, Cocoon, Turbine, Struts,XSL:FO, XML, Tomcat, First meeting free.http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Jakarta proposal: Pluto
At 17:41 21/01/03, you wrote: One more question: why not doing this as a subproject of JetSpeed ? It is an existing jakarta project, the scope matches - why creating a separate jakarta community instead of joining the existing one ? I assume that it would be a tool which could be used by the Cocoon portal system, and a Struts portal system as well as Jetspeed which is essentially a Turbine portal system. People may want to use this component without using Jetspeed. Of course I haven't read the JSR yet. Alex Mc -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Know each other
At 12:14 18/07/02, Aaron wrote: I have a question. It seems that you all kinda know each other. Where is everyone located? Aaron Working with Open Source software is a pretty unpopular pastime - if I was a BEA Weblogic expert for instance I would have people beating down my door to get to know me :-) I think most of the people on the general list are concerned with Apache (or at least Jakarta) as a whole rather than just one particular Apache project. It is only natural that people with the same interest get to know more about each other and sometimes meet up in real life. I would be quite keen to meet more Apache people in London or nearby but so far the only person I know lives nearby is Pier Fumigalli and I still haven't met him yet. I'm particularly keen to hear from UK and other European companies doing Apache Open Source so that I can add them to my OSS directory http://www.OWAL.co.uk/oss_support/ Alex McLintock Openweb Analysts Ltd, London. Software For Complex Websites http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ Open Source Software Companies please register here http://www.OWAL.co.uk/oss_support/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Job postings ?
At 23:03 04/06/02, Remy Maucherat wrote: Hi, Just wondering if posting Tomcat-specific job offers on the list is acceptable, or if there is another place I could post that too There is a mailing list for discussing the commercial aspects of using Apache software including people who can offer support. Job postings would be quite welcome there https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/krysalis-jakarta-adv If you are involved in commercial support of any Apache software package please join. Basically the topics of conversation can include the many commercial aspects which would be unwelcome elsewhere on the technical lists. Alex McLintock Openweb Analysts Ltd, London: Software For Complex Websites http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ Free Consultancy for London Companies thinking of Open Source Software. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Advertisement using Apache lists
At 14:56 13/05/2002, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: This list a place where we can talk-discuss about Commercial support to Jakarta projects. But I'm not just interested in the Jakarta projects - I'm mostly interested in the Apache xml projects. Oh well I've subscribed anyway. Thanks! Alex Openweb Analysts Ltd, London: Software For Complex Websites http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ Free Consultancy for London Companies thinking of Open Source Software. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [EGO]RE: Advertisement using Apache lists
At 11:01 14/05/2002, Danny Angus wrote: But I'm not just interested in the Jakarta projects Well you should be. They're all great, and we're all great guys. d. Please re-read the sentence above. It should parse that I am interested in Jakarta projects but I am also interested in the Apache web server, the Apache XML projects, and the Apache perl projects, none of which have anything to do with Jakarta. Nicola suggested that the new mailing list (which I have just subscribed to) is only for Jakarta projects. I intend to ignore that :-) I presume I may publicise the new list elsewhere? Alex Openweb Analysts Ltd, London: Software For Complex Websites http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ Free Consultancy for London Companies thinking of Open Source Software. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Advertisement using Apache lists
At 09:02 13/05/2002, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: I would like to encourage information about commercial entities that support Apache software, but I really have no clue about how it should be done. I too am setting up an organisation in the UK to help support Apache and other OSS software. I suggest that the first (and simplest) thing to do would be to setup a top level apache mailing list where it is ok to advertise oneself, one's company, or to advertise that you need support. I'm not a committer on any projects so can anyone else try to get this going? It shouldn't be too hard. Alex Openweb Analysts Ltd, London: Software For Complex Websites http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ Free Consultancy for London Companies thinking of Open Source Software. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Advertisement using Apache lists
At 13:13 13/05/2002, Jeff Turner wrote: On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 09:54:48AM +0100, Alex McLintock wrote: At 09:02 13/05/2002, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: I would like to encourage information about commercial entities that support Apache software, but I really have no clue about how it should be done. I too am setting up an organisation in the UK to help support Apache and other OSS software. I suggest that the first (and simplest) thing to do would be to setup a top level apache mailing list where it is ok to advertise oneself, one's company, or to advertise that you need support. I doubt a separate list would work. We've got an announcements@ list and everyone still cc's announcements to general@. Perhaps we should just adopt a simple subject line convention, [ADV] for adverts, to go with [ANN] for announcements. It isn't just about announcements - if it were then we would just use the announcements mailing lists. It is really about having a place where we can discuss these issues which are welcome no where else. Alex Openweb Analysts Ltd, London: Software For Complex Websites http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ Free Consultancy for London Companies thinking of Open Source Software. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Advertisement using Apache lists
At 14:06 13/05/2002, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Secondly, lets Make a rule NOT to post advertising to the mail lists, that is NOT what they are there for. Don't get hung up on adverts. We need somewhere to discuss commercial issues - and there is no apache forum where this is allowed. If there was a forum/ mailing list for such matters then you could all say that that is where to post adverts to and *no where else*. Alex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: news@jakarta list? (Re: Introducing Enterprise Object Broker)
--- Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the original suggestion of [EMAIL PROTECTED] was fine. It is not mysterious or hard to remember, and most of the OT threads around here are generated by some type of news item. -Ted. I can easily set up a slashcode site specifically for Apache news if you like. Wait a minute - I've done one already advertisement http://www.OWAL.co.uk/news/ /advertisement Alex = Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ --- SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/ Get Your XML T-Shirt t-shirt/ at http://www.inversity.co.uk/ Please Remove [EMAIL PROTECTED] from your address book. __ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: jdk1.4
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The latest version of Tomcat is great but it only recognizes jdk1.3 as the latest development kit. It does not recognize jdk1.4 as being installed even though it is. The error is the first thing to happen right when you start installing. I realize jdk1.4 is still in beta but are both Jakarta and jdk developers addressing this? Thank You. Firstly this is the wrong mailing list for this sort of question. There are mailing lists soley for discussing tomcat. Please check the website for details. I am pretty sure that all Tomcat uses is the environment variable JAVA_HOME which should point to the JDK that you wish to use. Alex = Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ --- SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/ Get Your XML T-Shirt t-shirt/ at http://www.inversity.co.uk/ COMPETITION : http://news.diversebooks.com/article.pl?sid=01/10/08/1947255 __ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ASPizer
--- Ceki Gulcu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Endre, Although Jon might not be the most politically-correct person around, he is usually right. Jon is correct to observe that Jakarta is not a dumping ground for .bomb projects. Project X is written because it is useful to Company Y. Company Y attempts to market Project X because they think it is useful to others. Company Y decides they wont get enough money for Project X Company Y offers Project X to the Opensource community. What's wrong with that? Now of course it is right to question whether Apache Software Developers will find it useful enough to maintain the software. But how is Company Y to know unless it offers the software? Why should a piece of software be rejected by the opensource community just because it isn't commercially viable? PS Endre, There is no point in trying to get Jon to change his manners. Just ignore him when he is rude and listen to him quite closely when he is talking about software cause he is usually right. Alex = Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ --- SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/ Get Your XML T-Shirt t-shirt/ at http://www.inversity.co.uk/ COMPETITION : http://news.diversebooks.com/article.pl?sid=01/10/08/1947255 Nokia Game is on again. Go to http://uk.yahoo.com/nokiagame/ and join the new all media adventure before November 3rd. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [OT] Servlets better for most companies!
From: Randy Layman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 5:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] Servlets better for most companies! . I think that there needs to be more companies out there supporting the OSS projects, and those that do it need to get more visibility in front of the managers and vice presidents so that when someone suggests using them they don't say I've never heard of them Randy I'd like my company to be such a company - and would like to hear from Londoners who use Apache/Jakarta software. I currently do web consulting and use Apache server, FOP, Xerces, Xalan, Tomcat, Turbine, Jyve, (Jetspeed - which I am phasing on my Books site out in favour of Slashcode), etc etc etc. http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ Since this might sound too commercial for the list feel free to email me directly to chat more about what a OSS consultancy should offer. I also have ideas about getting OSS publicity which I am happy to discuss if you can think of the appropriate place. Alex = Alex McLintock[EMAIL PROTECTED]Open Source Consultancy in London OpenWeb Analysts Ltd, http://www.OWAL.co.uk/ SF and Computing Book News and Reviews: http://news.diversebooks.com/ Get Your XML T-Shirt t-shirt/ at http://www.inversity.co.uk/ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
