I'm sure JCS would be much more widely used if we got out a release.
Right now, the major impediment is that users have to build it
themselves. If we had a release, more sample applications and further
For a long time I hoped a release could be avoided until after the
JCache JSR was at least in p
> As far as L/GPL jars go that's not something Maven controls. Projects
> state their own dependencies and if an Apache project is violating
> Apache policies how is that Maven's problem? If it was an Ant build that
> used the task to link in an L/GPL jar is that Ant's problem?
> Obviously not.
S
> Maven is a nice tool - and I wish it good luck wherever it goes.
> But if Maven charter will include the creation of a maven-only repository -
> I hope at least some board members will vote -1.
Hopefully we can keep these as seperate issues. Maven already has a
repository which can be used by
> Note the wiki isn't for that purpose or I'd agree with you. Its for
> creating documentation (something we are still lacking in). I hate it
> for the purpose of discussion, preferring mail lists for that, and the
> talking points summed up (I hate searching through 6 years of archive to
I'
On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 12:21, Sam Ruby wrote:
> Gump is now two years old. It has had contributions from over a dozen
> people, about a half-dozen this month alone. There seems to be a
> renewed interest in gump (some in response to a little nudging ).
>
> Considering all of this, what I would
> >- things being 'easier' when being a member: of course not, and I hope
> >that wasn't the impression that I gave
>
> The message I was trying to get across was that the "firewall"
> a.k.a. barrier between members and committers exists mostly in
> people's minds. Membership is not much more tha
> >The Question I have for everybody here is does anyone have any interest in
> >Porting any of the other jakarta projects to C# so that they may be able to
> >run on Mono/Linux/windows & .Net/Micorsoft ?
> >
> what this sppose to mean
> ppl, why want you to suppor
> I thought that we were also supposed and even encouraged to think for
> ourselves. No one has suggested to defy the board. I resent the shut-
> -up-and-do-as-you-are-told attitude which does not characterize you,
> the ASF, nor anyone on the board. What is going on here?
Indeed, this attitude is
On Tue, 2002-11-05 at 10:38, Brian Ewins wrote:
> Ok, if its consistency you want... this one is a spitter for the logo at
> www.apache.org. The font at the bottom of the ASF logo, as you'll see if
> you peek in the svg, is actually the same as the title, but they p u t
> e x t r a s p a c e s
> I changed the "The Apache" font to one very similar to the "Jakarta
> Project" one and deleted by hand the vertical anti-aliasing that was
> present, to mimic the same thing in the current logo.
Does anybody know what the font in the original logo is? It is a common
font that I am familiar wit
On Mon, 2002-11-04 at 08:45, James Taylor wrote:
> Perhaps you missed my warning that I would -1 this.
Oh, to be clear, I'm in favor of a new logo, it just can't look worse
than the current one which looks quite nice.
(If my vote even counts on site stuff, I'm not sure)
>
Perhaps you missed my warning that I would -1 this.
The font mismatch on "The Apache" vs the rest of the text is not good.
Also, this is more blurry than the original logo. It my be a "cut and
paste" of the original logo text, but you have applied some scaling
which has blurred it -- always a pr
On Wed, 2002-10-09 at 14:05, Jon Scott Stevens wrote:
> on 2002/10/9 10:40 AM, "Daniel Rall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > mod_python is looking more and more attractive to me all the time, a
> > clever balance between the two.
>
> Not really. This is about as good as plain servlets.
>
> htt
On Sat, 2002-10-05 at 19:36, John McNally wrote:
> This is not really the correct place, but a short answer is struts is
> jsp-centric while turbine attempts to be neutral on the actual
> templating mechanism. Given that most jsp developers gravitate to
> struts means you get the best support if
> I love how people spend more time getting bent out of shape because there
> is a wrong posting on an email list by a newbie and spend more effort
> refering them to the 'idiot' page than if they were to just help them out
But the idiot page takes almost no effort at all. That's why it is so
gre
> while one of the major
> democracies of the world, the US, doen't surely have one of the highest
> turnouts.
And a lot of people see that as a really bad thing. Turning in an empty
ballot is one thing, but not going to the polls because you can't tear
yourself away from 'Must See TV' is ignorin
> My projects haven't come to a grinding halt. Only on general @ jakarta
But this isn't about your projects, it is about the community, and the
community is more important than the code. Do you even know why you are
here?
> -Andy
-- jt (who is afraid Pier will do a mailing list search on him
> starting points:
> maven: http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/maven
I think maven would definitely be interested in your help. We've had a
lot of discussions about moving to docbook, and lots of us favor it but
we've invested a lot of time in xdoc so far and don't really have the
time to convert
> Sam, I asked yesterday or the day before on this list what needs to be
> done. I'm waiting on you for a reply. I'm an active developer on maven.
> Yesterday we added the nag tags in that were requested.
Actually (to keep everything honest) they didn't quite work out the way
I expected and have
On Thu, 2002-05-02 at 17:33, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> I hate to interrupt all the good fun over standards, bike sheds, and general
> good community feelings, but I would like to solicit community opinion on
> something unrelated to DVSL or Jon Stevens (both of which I like, btw...)
Thank god
> Granted: I use XSLT and am able to live with it. Nothing to be ashamed
> of, I guess. I've briefly looked into DVSL when Maven was gathering
> momentum, and it was not the kind of quantum-leap technology that would
> change my judgement on XSLT.
As a user and supporter of both, I just want to p
> What do you think?
I think that the sanest viewpoint that has been expressed in this thread
is that both projects are young and need to incubate. Sure, one project
definition format will be nice to have across apache someday, but were
still working out the kinks and it's not obvious (well, exce
> I do. They aren't. Example:
>
>http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/gump/2002-05-01/jakarta-turbine-stratum.html
>
> Was built using
>
>
>http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/~checkout~/jakarta-turbine-stratum/jakarta-turbine-stratum.xml
>
> If nag entries were added to that definition, then
> How interesting, quite a few projects have managed to do it.
Obviously we are far less competent, intelligent, or dedicated then
those other projects. All things I am perfectly willing to accept as
long as you don't make me look at GUMP again.
> more than it costs. Say I want to use Maven, bu
Yeah, I love wading through GUMP's mess of ant build files, transformed
xml, generated perl and shell scripts and such, all of which is barely
documented at BEST. Especially when otherwise I'd have to spend that
time on things that actually make my project better...
Perhaps that's why (from a Mav
ObjectBridge is one of the most interesting, powerful, and complete O/R
mapping projects out there. I would love to see it become a top level
Jakarta subproject, so here is my emphatic (but non-binding) +1!
-- jt
On Mon, 2002-04-29 at 14:41, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would like to propos
> > You do not have to use an O/R layer that abstracts you away from the
> > database you are using so much that it limits your ability to use the
> > DB's functionality in something resembling a db-natural way.
>
> That is like trying to argue that using ECS is the way to write HTML.
Sometimes
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