Re: Choosing against Jakarta
No worries, mate. The Apache License is the ultimate hedge. No matter what happens, you can always set up the source someplace else. The most you could possibly lose would be the product name, and, realistically, if there wasn't a community behind the product, Apache wouldn't want it anyway :) As an Apache Committer, you can setup a product in the Jakarta Commons sandbox whenever you want. (Just like SourceForge.) If you can interest other people in the product, and build a community to support it, the product can be promoted to the Commons Proper -- or even to the top-level of Jakarta or the ASF, depending on the product's extent. The thing to keep in mind is that you are not donating code to Jakarta. You are donating it to the Apache Software Foundation. The ASF is here to stay, as are all of its products, no matter where they are hosted. As long as a product has a vital, meritocratic community, it's sure to have a home at the ASF. Of course, SourceForge is also a fine place to host a project. I often choose SourceForge when the people I'm working with are not ASF Committers. This in itself is a good reason to choose SourceForge: you can't add ASF Committers at will. ASF Committers must have demonstrated a sustained interest in the project and an understanding of the Apache Way. Usually this is a good thing, but sometimes it is not. As far as anything else goes: This too shall pass, but open source and the Apache License endure. -Ted. Stephen Colebourne wrote: As some of you may know, I look after my own date and time code in Java at www.joda.org. I had been hoping to bring this code to Apache, as I believe it to be a very good fit with developments within Jakarta/Jakarta-commons. Today I decided not to pursue this option for the time being, until the situation with Jakarta's future is resolved. Instead I applied for a new sourceforge project to house it more cleanly. Why post this here? Because I believe that others may also be questioning the value of Jakarta. I confess that I have no idea what, or if, Jakarta will look like in 6 months time. Certainly it made no sense to me to attempt to get a new project adopted by Jakarta at the moment. Stephen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Choosing against Jakarta
As some of you may know, I look after my own date and time code in Java at www.joda.org. I had been hoping to bring this code to Apache, as I believe it to be a very good fit with developments within Jakarta/Jakarta-commons. Today I decided not to pursue this option for the time being, until the situation with Jakarta's future is resolved. Instead I applied for a new sourceforge project to house it more cleanly. Why post this here? Because I believe that others may also be questioning the value of Jakarta. I confess that I have no idea what, or if, Jakarta will look like in 6 months time. Certainly it made no sense to me to attempt to get a new project adopted by Jakarta at the moment. Stephen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Choosing against Jakarta
Whatever the fate of the name Jakarta and/or Commons you can reliably assume the content housed at what is now called Apache Jakarta will persist. If it is the case that a reorganization or regrouping of PMC's does occur in response to growing pains, this is not going to result in any risk to the existence of the individual subprojects themselves. I don't think its unreasonable to propose a donation to a new/existing subproject. If down the road changes occur to the organization of groups, I'm sure there will be much sensitivity to maintaining the neccessities that the individual sub-projects require. -Mark Stephen Colebourne wrote: As some of you may know, I look after my own date and time code in Java at www.joda.org. I had been hoping to bring this code to Apache, as I believe it to be a very good fit with developments within Jakarta/Jakarta-commons. Today I decided not to pursue this option for the time being, until the situation with Jakarta's future is resolved. Instead I applied for a new sourceforge project to house it more cleanly. Why post this here? Because I believe that others may also be questioning the value of Jakarta. I confess that I have no idea what, or if, Jakarta will look like in 6 months time. Certainly it made no sense to me to attempt to get a new project adopted by Jakarta at the moment. Stephen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
