Re: Call on Stein to resign over Gernimo

2003-11-12 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr .
On Tuesday, November 11, 2003, at 01:25 PM, Vic Cekvenich wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: I think that this is the right list, very few people are intrested about the incubator. This is about ASF reputation. (It is also about the OSS reputation, including BSD, Linux, CodeHus, etc.) Due to

Re: Call on Stein to resign over Gernimo

2003-11-11 Thread Danny Angus
The ASF treats the allegations of code copying very seriously, and will take what actions are necessary to ensure that no IP rights are violated, any offending code, if found, is removed, and any other appropriate action is taken. GREAT!!! That is 99% of what I wanted to hear. I

Re: Call on Stein to resign over Gernimo

2003-11-11 Thread Vic Cekvenich
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: I think that this is the right list, very few people are intrested about the incubator. This is about ASF reputation. (It is also about the OSS reputation, including BSD, Linux, CodeHus, etc.) Due to this Stein mistake OSS could be view as very lowest form. Makes me

Re: Call on Stein to resign over Gernimo

2003-11-11 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Nov 11, 2003, at 1:25 PM, Vic Cekvenich wrote: ASF should publicly applogize, and as a sign of friendship with OSS, do something to help jBoss, such as help with J2EE certification, or help with code or something. This statement jumped out at me like a tiger. The suspicious might read the

Re: Call on Stein to resign over Gernimo

2003-11-11 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Vic Cekvenich wrote: I think that this is the right list, very few people are intrested about the incubator. This is about ASF reputation. (It is also about the OSS reputation, including BSD, Linux, CodeHus, etc.) Why not mail the httpd list then? Or the Ant list?

Re: Call on Stein to resign over Gernimo

2003-11-11 Thread Scott Tavares
Vic Cekvenich wrote: snip I have been thinking about it, I do not think removing the offeding code is appropriate or sufficient. If proven, I think offending devlopers, new or old should be baned from ASF (and other OSS projects) for a few years. The project should be parked. Let it live

Re: Call on Stein to resign over Gernimo

2003-11-11 Thread Vic Cekvenich
Scott Tavares wrote: Geezz relax Vic, . I can not understand why you are so passionate about this. Sincerely I think this is bad for open source and for sofware, which is where I do make a living. This is great for comercail vendors, proving that open source are... less ethical. What

Re: Call on Stein to resign over Gernimo

2003-11-11 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Dude get a life and stop wining, we have better things to do, than read this shit. One thing is to have an opinion, the other thing is listening when people are actually saying you are wining and complaining at the worng place. LISTEN! Mvgr, Martin On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 23:37, Vic Cekvenich

Re: Call on Stein to resign over Gernimo

2003-11-11 Thread Nathaniel G. Auvil
+1000 --- Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dude get a life and stop wining, we have better things to do, than read this shit. One thing is to have an opinion, the other thing is listening when people are actually saying you are wining and complaining at the

Re: Call on Stein to resign over Gernimo

2003-11-11 Thread mohammad nabil
we are talking about software here. It's no life and death matter. No one is going to lose their life over this. It's not like a U.S. gov. official leaking the name of a CIA operative to the public. what that mean :s _

Re: Call on Stein to resign over Gernimo

2003-11-11 Thread J Aaron Farr
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 00:20, mohammad nabil wrote: we are talking about software here. It's no life and death matter. No one is going to lose their life over this. It's not like a U.S. gov. official leaking the name of a CIA operative to the public. what that mean :s

Re: Call on Stein to resign over Gernimo

2003-11-10 Thread Vic Cekvenich
I repeat: http://theserverside.com/home/thread.jsp?thread_id=22337#101159 Geir, are you supporting his actions, the ethics in here, denying what that developer is saying, ie: that is not his code? I know my code when I see it. What part are you supporting, all of it? -Stein is the one that

Re: Call on Stein to resign over Gernimo

2003-11-10 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr .
On Monday, November 10, 2003, at 05:00 PM, Vic Cekvenich wrote: I repeat: http://theserverside.com/home/thread.jsp?thread_id=22337#101159 Geir, are you supporting his actions, the ethics in here, denying what that developer is saying, ie: that is not his code? I know my code when I see it.

Re: Call on Stein to resign over Gernimo

2003-11-10 Thread Vic Cekvenich
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: The ASF treats the allegations of code copying very seriously, and will take what actions are necessary to ensure that no IP rights are violated, any offending code, if found, is removed, and any other appropriate action is taken. GREAT!!! That is 99% of what I