Dude get a life and stop wining, we have better things to do, than read
this shit.
One thing is to have an opinion, the other thing is listening when
people are actually saying you are wining and complaining at the worng
place. LISTEN!

Mvgr,
Martin

On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 23:37, Vic Cekvenich wrote:
> Scott Tavares wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Geezz relax Vic, .....  I can not understand why you are so
> > passionate about this. 
> 
> Sincerely I think this is bad for open source and for sofware, which is 
> where I do make a living.
> This is great for comercail vendors, "proving" that open source are... 
> less ethical.  What does it mean to be an open source supporter now, to 
> a client?  (OK, I should take the point that I need to let go of Don 
> Quihote)
> 
> I think lawyers have a bad reputation, and I do not want my profesion, 
> sofware engineers to have that reputation.
> 
> 
> Henri Yandel wrote:
> "This is where we get into the question of whether the ASF have licenced
> under an ASF licence, and not the LGPL licence of Elba, a piece of code
> that is not licensable. If so, then they have legally broken a barrier.
> Use of code is tricky, what if they have merely copied a design. I've not
> seen anything in terms of open source test cases to suggest how open
> open-source designs are."
> 
> 
> The apprent position of ASF is that.. well it's same design but we have 
> (former jBoss developers changing the implementation over time.
> In esence, in music, same notes, but diferent performance ( same 
> musicians.) You don't see how a PHB might hesiteate to hire an OSS suporter?
> 
> Can somone downlaod "Resin"EE (for example :-) source, and refactor and 
> now they "own" it? Or take OrionServer and decompile and refactor, and 
> now they "own" it?
> 
> 
> Do ... or don't do what you want.
> I am done with it.
> 
> .V
> 
> ps:
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=struts-dev&m=106858581404361&w=2
> (I can see the water mill now, now... it's a Dragon!!!!)
> 
> 
> 
> 
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