Re: FYI: Follow up on the XML'ization of MS Office 11
On 17/12/02 18:03 Dominique Devienne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... which follows the SUN and MS bashing thread where this subject was brushed on. I'm just forwarding the news, no need to shoot/flame the messenger. Thanks, --DD From: xmlhack daily news digest: 17 Dec 2002 Microsoft Office embraces XML http://xmlhack.com/read.php?item=1839 http://xmlhack.com/read.php?item=1839 For many participants, the most memorable event of XML 2002 will be Jean Paoli's presentation of Office 11, which promises to deliver easier access to XML for hundreds of millions of work stations. (Tools, Comment: 20:28 16 Dec 2002 UTC) Lame... Since ages we got http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ which has (I'm sure), less bugs than MS' implementation of it... Pier -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FYI: Follow up on the XML'ization of MS Office 11
I find it rather amusing that you need Office 11 to have ACCESS to XML. After all XML has been so restricted until now ;-). Regardless, I hope (I think) Micorsoft REALLY makes Office XML compliant such that it behaves nicely in Office. Currently you can save it as a kinda XML format but its not usable in a server situation because of Office's quirks, IE-Office quirks (oddly enough this works better with Netscape 4.x+), and tendency to CRASH on non-insubstantial documents or just take for flippin ever (in a way that just doesn't make sense if they are parsing using any parser I've ever used).. If Microsoft ACTUALLY does this, than after a short period I'll consider POI to be kin to ECS (http://jakarta.apache.org/ecs/); however, I wouldn't pre-reserve my copy just yet or start a big Finally Microsoft embraces open file formats yet... I sold my stock in MS a long time ago when I realized they had no credibility (which made me rather uncomfortable as a relatively conservative investor...my IBM stock did better anyhow when you count the dividends). -Andy From: xmlhack daily news digest: 17 Dec 2002 Microsoft Office embraces XML http://xmlhack.com/read.php?item=1839 http://xmlhack.com/read.php?item=1839 For many participants, the most memorable event of XML 2002 will be Jean Paoli's presentation of Office 11, which promises to deliver easier access to XML for hundreds of millions of work stations. (Tools, Comment: 20:28 16 Dec 2002 UTC) Lame... Since ages we got http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/ which has (I'm sure), less bugs than MS' implementation of it... Pier -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FYI: Follow up on the XML'ization of MS Office 11
Jon Scott Stevens wrote: on 2002/12/17 10:22 AM, Brian Ewins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is old news I but I just saw it today: there's a tool that can convert word 2000 docs (saved as html) to an xml doc and an xsl-t script to generate xsl:fo - and from there to PDF. http://www-uk.hpl.hp.com/people/fabgia/wh2fo/wh2fo.html Very nice trick. On OSX you can simply save as a PDF when you print the document. No XML needed. Get a Mac. =) And I can do this in Windows too using Redmon to talk to Ghostscript, or Distiller; theres a similar GS trick on Linux. However, I wouldn't want to use wh2fo to make pdf from word docs, that's silly and misses the usefulness of this trick - having separated the style from the content, I can now use the style on /different/ content. This turns word into a tool for wysiwyg authoring of xsl:fo stylesheets; or more likely, just get you up and running with xsl:fo by generating the stylesheet for your corporate docs. - Baz Privacy and Confidentiality Notice The information contained in this E-Mail message is intended only for the person or persons to whom it is addressed. Such information is confidential and privileged and no mistake in transmission is intended to waive or compromise such privilege. If you have received it in error, please destroy it and notify us on the telephone number printed above. If you do not receive complete and legible copies, please telephone us immediately. Any opinions expressed herein including attachments are those of the author only. i-documentsystems Ltd. does not accept responsibility for the accuracy or completeness of the information provided or for any changes to this Email, however made, after it was sent. (Please note that it is your responsibility to scan this message for viruses). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
FYI: Follow up on the XML'ization of MS Office 11
Title: FYI: Follow up on the XML'ization of MS Office 11 ... which follows the SUN and MS bashing thread where this subject was brushed on. I'm just forwarding the news, no need to shoot/flame the messenger. Thanks, --DD From: xmlhack daily news digest: 17 Dec 2002 Microsoft Office embraces XML http://xmlhack.com/read.php?item=1839 For many participants, the most memorable event of XML 2002 will be Jean Paoli's presentation of Office 11, which promises to deliver easier access to XML for hundreds of millions of work stations. (Tools, Comment: 20:28 16 Dec 2002 UTC) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FYI: Follow up on the XML'ization of MS Office 11
This is old news I but I just saw it today: there's a tool that can convert word 2000 docs (saved as html) to an xml doc and an xsl-t script to generate xsl:fo - and from there to PDF. http://www-uk.hpl.hp.com/people/fabgia/wh2fo/wh2fo.html Very nice trick. Dominique Devienne wrote: ... which follows the SUN and MS bashing thread where this subject was brushed on. I'm just forwarding the news, no need to shoot/flame the messenger. Thanks, --DD From: xmlhack daily news digest: 17 Dec 2002 Microsoft Office embraces XML _http://xmlhack.com/read.php?item=1839_ For many participants, the most memorable event of XML 2002 will be Jean Paoli's presentation of Office 11, which promises to deliver easier access to XML for hundreds of millions of work stations. (Tools, Comment: 20:28 16 Dec 2002 UTC) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Privacy and Confidentiality Notice The information contained in this E-Mail message is intended only for the person or persons to whom it is addressed. Such information is confidential and privileged and no mistake in transmission is intended to waive or compromise such privilege. If you have received it in error, please destroy it and notify us on the telephone number printed above. If you do not receive complete and legible copies, please telephone us immediately. Any opinions expressed herein including attachments are those of the author only. i-documentsystems Ltd. does not accept responsibility for the accuracy or completeness of the information provided or for any changes to this Email, however made, after it was sent. (Please note that it is your responsibility to scan this message for viruses). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FYI: Follow up on the XML'ization of MS Office 11
on 2002/12/17 10:22 AM, Brian Ewins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is old news I but I just saw it today: there's a tool that can convert word 2000 docs (saved as html) to an xml doc and an xsl-t script to generate xsl:fo - and from there to PDF. http://www-uk.hpl.hp.com/people/fabgia/wh2fo/wh2fo.html Very nice trick. On OSX you can simply save as a PDF when you print the document. No XML needed. Get a Mac. =) -jon -- StudioZ.tv /\ Bar/Nightclub/Entertainment 314 11th Street @ Folsom /\ San Francisco http://studioz.tv/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FYI: Follow up on the XML'ization of MS Office 11
On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: on 2002/12/17 10:22 AM, Brian Ewins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is old news I but I just saw it today: there's a tool that can convert word 2000 docs (saved as html) to an xml doc and an xsl-t script to generate xsl:fo - and from there to PDF. http://www-uk.hpl.hp.com/people/fabgia/wh2fo/wh2fo.html Very nice trick. On OSX you can simply save as a PDF when you print the document. No XML needed. Get a Mac. You'd be amazed how quickly you take this for granted. I quite happily tell people to send it to me in PDF format. Before I got a mac I used to view PDF as some proprietary, impossible to create nasty thing. Seems as if most of Jakarta use OS X now. Is it just that us X-junkies are loud and proud about it? Hen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FYI: Follow up on the XML'ization of MS Office 11
On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Henri Yandell wrote: On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: on 2002/12/17 10:22 AM, Brian Ewins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is old news I but I just saw it today: there's a tool that can convert word 2000 docs (saved as html) to an xml doc and an xsl-t script to generate xsl:fo - and from there to PDF. http://www-uk.hpl.hp.com/people/fabgia/wh2fo/wh2fo.html Very nice trick. On OSX you can simply save as a PDF when you print the document. No XML needed. Get a Mac. You'd be amazed how quickly you take this for granted. I quite happily tell people to send it to me in PDF format. Before I got a mac I used to view PDF as some proprietary, impossible to create nasty thing. Seems as if most of Jakarta use OS X now. Is it just that us X-junkies are loud and proud about it? Yep. ;-) -- Martin Cooper Hen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FYI: Follow up on the XML'ization of MS Office 11
On Tuesday, December 17, 2002, at 02:13 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: Seems as if most of Jakarta use OS X now. Is it just that us X-junkies are loud and proud about it? I switched recently ( ~ 4mo ). It would be interesting to conduct an informal poll. -pete -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
