Re: [RFC] Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-11 Thread Ted Leung
- Original Message - From: Ted Leung [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 10:12 AM Subject: [RFC] Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta Does anyone else from xml.apache.org have any feedback on this proposal one way or the other? Ted

Re: [RFC] Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-11 Thread Ted Leung
PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 10:12 AM Subject: [RFC] Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta Does anyone else from xml.apache.org have any feedback on this proposal one way or the other? Ted - Original Message - From: Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL

Re: [RFC] Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-11 Thread Jason van Zyl
- From: Ted Leung [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 10:12 AM Subject: [RFC] Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta Does anyone else from xml.apache.org have any feedback on this proposal one way or the other? Ted - Original Message - From: Sam Ruby

Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-06 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 7/5/01 9:09 PM, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason van Zyl wrote: Fair enough, I will no longer argue the point. My main concern is that the project be granted full autonomy as a project initially as Hannes and the rest of the committers become accustomed to xml.apache.org than we

Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-06 Thread Ted Leung
One caveat. Let the XML PMC have it's vote on this. I'm sending the vote request in 2 minutes. Ted - Original Message - From: Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 6:54 AM Subject: Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta On 7/5/01 9:09 PM, Sam Ruby

Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-06 Thread Jason van Zyl
, July 06, 2001 6:54 AM Subject: Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta On 7/5/01 9:09 PM, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason van Zyl wrote: Fair enough, I will no longer argue the point. My main concern is that the project be granted full autonomy as a project initially as Hannes and the rest

Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-05 Thread Pier P. Fumagalli
Hannes Wallnoefer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To put it right upfront, I don't think XML-RPC is a natural fit for xml.apache.org, and I'd prefer to see it at Jakarta. Let me explain. Even though I see your point, I'd still prefer seeing it over in XML alongside with the other technologies

Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-05 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 7/5/01 7:55 AM, Pier P. Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hannes Wallnoefer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To put it right upfront, I don't think XML-RPC is a natural fit for xml.apache.org, and I'd prefer to see it at Jakarta. Let me explain. Even though I see your point, I'd still

Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-05 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 7/5/01 7:55 AM, Pier P. Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hannes Wallnoefer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To put it right upfront, I don't think XML-RPC is a natural fit for xml.apache.org, and I'd prefer to see it at Jakarta. Let me explain. Even though I see your point, I'd still

Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-05 Thread Jason van Zyl
with Axis. Does this sound reasonable? Ted Leung Chair XML PMC - Original Message - From: Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 7:18 AM Subject: Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta On 7/5/01 7:55 AM, Pier P. Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-05 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
I believed that xml.apache.org was the appropriate place to try first, and if it can find a happy home there, I still think thats appropriate. However, this is a living community, not just a code base - Hannes and co-conspirators are coming with it. Therefore, I think top level in xml would be

Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-05 Thread Jon Stevens
on 7/5/01 5:52 PM, Pier P. Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, one day I'll change it (also because it generates 70% of the traffic on daedalus!) And because CollabNet has to pay for that... -jon - To unsubscribe,

Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-05 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
[ ]Jon Stevens -0 It seems like xml.apache.org should be the place, but I really don't care where it lives that much cause we can always move projects around if we need to. I do think that if it goes to xml.apache.org it should be a top level project. I feel about the same. xml.apache.org

Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-05 Thread Pier P. Fumagalli
Jon Stevens at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 7/5/01 5:52 PM, Pier P. Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, one day I'll change it (also because it generates 70% of the traffic on daedalus!) And because CollabNet has to pay for that... Comes straight out of your paycheck? :) :) :)

Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-05 Thread Sam Ruby
Jason van Zyl wrote: Fair enough, I will no longer argue the point. My main concern is that the project be granted full autonomy as a project initially as Hannes and the rest of the committers become accustomed to xml.apache.org than we can discuss the possible integration with Axis. Does

Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-05 Thread Ted Leung
05, 2001 7:18 AM Subject: Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta On 7/5/01 7:55 AM, Pier P. Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hannes Wallnoefer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To put it right upfront, I don't think XML-RPC is a natural fit for xml.apache.org, and I'd prefer to see it at Jakarta. Let

Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-04 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Wednesday, July 4, 2001, at 05:19 AM, Ian Kallen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My unsolicited opinion: projects focused on the manipulation and purveyance of data as XML could/should belong in the xml.apache.org project while implementations of Java technologies associate with Jakarta.

Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-04 Thread Hannes Wallnoefer
PROTECTED] Antworten an: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Datum: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 20:13:07 +0100 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta On Wednesday, July 4, 2001, at 05:19 AM, Ian Kallen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My unsolicited opinion: projects focused on the manipulation and purveyance

Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-04 Thread Sam Ruby
Hannes Wallnoefer wrote: [snip] Short and simple: -1. Good luck getting 3/4 approval... Want to change my vote? Demonstrate some signs that you are willing to work with others, or are at least aware of related work. Criticize SOAP or the Apache implementation thereof if you like - I can

Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-04 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 7/4/01 10:04 PM, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hannes Wallnoefer wrote: [snip] Short and simple: -1. Good luck getting 3/4 approval... Want to change my vote? I don't think there's anything to change. You decided what you what you wanted very shortly after the proposal was

Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-03 Thread Sam Ruby
I strongly believe that any any such nomination should be to xml.apache.org. - Sam Ruby Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 07/03/2001 10:19:36 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta Hello, I would like to propose the movement

RE: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-03 Thread GOMEZ Henri
I would like to propose the movement of the Helma XML-RCP package (http://xmlrpc.helma.org/) to Jakarta. The Helma XML-RPC package is the most popular OSS XML-RPC package and Hannes Wallnoefer would like to donate the code to the Jakarta project. There is an active community based around the

Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-03 Thread Jon Stevens
on 7/3/01 7:19 AM, Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to propose the movement of the Helma XML-RCP package (http://xmlrpc.helma.org/) to Jakarta. The Helma XML-RPC package is the most popular OSS XML-RPC package and Hannes Wallnoefer would like to donate the code to the

Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-03 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Jason van Zyl wrote: Hello, I would like to propose the movement of the Helma XML-RCP package (http://xmlrpc.helma.org/) to Jakarta. The Helma XML-RPC package is the most popular OSS XML-RPC package and Hannes Wallnoefer would like to donate the code to the Jakarta project. There is

Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-03 Thread Terry McBride
Jason makes a very good point. I believe we could see XML-RPC become a integral component to other jakarta projects. Terry McBride --- Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/3/01 11:27 AM, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I strongly believe that any any such nomination should be

Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-03 Thread Sam Ruby
Jason van Zyl wrote: I strongly believe that any any such nomination should be to xml.apache.org. Reasons? The xml-axis project is a restructuring of xml-soap. This restructuring was initiated with the expressed intent of providing a foundation for supporting multiple protocols, including,

Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-03 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 7/3/01 4:36 PM, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason van Zyl wrote: I strongly believe that any any such nomination should be to xml.apache.org. Reasons? The xml-axis project is a restructuring of xml-soap. This restructuring was initiated with the expressed intent of

Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-03 Thread Pier P. Fumagalli
Sam Ruby at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I strongly believe that any any such nomination should be to xml.apache.org. I agree 100% with Sam... Pier - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands,

Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-03 Thread Sam Ruby
Jason van Zyl wrote: I think that was a knee jerk reaction to seeing XML in the project name. Fair enough. You've had two people so far. Not fair. I can't speak for others, but I am an active committer on xml-soap and xml-apache (two different projects only in the sense that Tomcat 3 and 4

Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-03 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 7/3/01 8:10 PM, Pier P. Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sam Ruby at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I strongly believe that any any such nomination should be to xml.apache.org. I agree 100% with Sam... Again, that's an unqualified response. I responsed to Sam when he clarified his

Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-03 Thread Sam Ruby
Jason van Zyl wrote: You have totally side stepped the fact that no at xml.apache.org is interested in XML-RPC. What exactly is the interest level in XML-RPC? I honestly don't know a whole lot about SOAP, but I have been using XML-RPC for a long while now and it's simple and works great.

Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-03 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 7/3/01 8:56 PM, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason van Zyl wrote: You have totally side stepped the fact that no at xml.apache.org is interested in XML-RPC. What exactly is the interest level in XML-RPC? I honestly don't know a whole lot about SOAP, but I have been using XML-RPC